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What should I do in order to get a stock android experience feel on the MIUI 6?
I was thinking about installing the Google Now launcher, any suggestions apart from that?
Also to keep my phone snappy and lag free, what monthly maintenance should I do? I have had horrible experience with my Galaxy Note and do not want to happen that to my Mi4i
Will it be good enough to use it without a screen protector and external cover??
shubhstiws said:
What should I do in order to get a stock android experience feel on the MIUI 6?
I was thinking about installing the Google Now launcher, any suggestions apart from that?
Also to keep my phone snappy and lag free, what monthly maintenance should I do? I have had horrible experience with my Galaxy Note and do not want to happen that to my Mi4i
Will it be good enough to use it without a screen protector and external cover??
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Got my Mi4i today, installed the Google Now launcher and made it default... But this will not change the pull down notification/toggles shade UI or the lockscreen UI... If you want a full level stock lollipop experience, you will have to root it and then modify the ROM/flash a CM ROM, when it becomes available...
If you head over to mi.com India site, you'll get a sim card tray and screen protector from Xiaomi for free on purchase of Mi4i/redmi 2....
Weekly Maintenance: There is nothing as such which u can do apart from keeping it away from bloat wares
Using without Cover & Screen Guard would depend completely on your usage - If you can manage it like that - Go without them. I personally would be using it without any covers and stuff
If you really want a Stock Exp - Flash CM once its ported for Mi4i or any other AOSP Based ROM.
Thanks, but MIUI6 is awesome!
I used to prefer stock android, but MIUI6 just works, it has a solution for almost everything. And it is very very convenient. I am loving the ROM, especially the fusion of the best of android features with the copied elegance of iOS.
Little things like leaving the screen to where the app was last accessed makes a lot of difference.
Battery life is surprisingly awesome.
I got a screen time of 6+ hours after the first recharge, which is mind blowing.
Hope it continues.
Over all the phone is very cool in the hand and smooth in operation
i got 8+ hrs sot on first charge
MIUI 6 is pretty good!
shubhstiws said:
I used to prefer stock android, but MIUI6 just works, it has a solution for almost everything. And it is very very convenient. I am loving the ROM, especially the fusion of the best of android features with the copied elegance of iOS.
Little things like leaving the screen to where the app was last accessed makes a lot of difference.
Battery life is surprisingly awesome.
I got a screen time of 6+ hours after the first recharge, which is mind blowing.
Hope it continues.
Over all the phone is very cool in the hand and smooth in operation
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I agree, I was (perhaps still am) a big fan of the stock experience, but the MIUI 6 is so intuitively designed and looks so gorgeous that I have started liking it!
shubhstiws said:
What should I do in order to get a stock android experience feel on the MIUI 6?
I was thinking about installing the Google Now launcher, any suggestions apart from that?
Also to keep my phone snappy and lag free, what monthly maintenance should I do? I have had horrible experience with my Galaxy Note and do not want to happen that to my Mi4i
Will it be good enough to use it without a screen protector and external cover??
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i got a scratch on screen when it was in same pocket where i kept keys. So don't even think of using without tempered glass or screenguard. :crying:
I feel the same, Some how I do not like MIUI, I always like Stock Android experience.
Only way to experience is b installing Google Now Launcher. But this doesn't work quite well on this device. It shows black pages in App drawer and black rectangular boxes on home page...
Maybe need to wait to get this device rooted.....
miui is lagging like hell, its beauty but is lagging very very very much, i hate it
I just thought the same!
My only reason to stay on MIUI is due to its camera. I was thinking somehow remove all the memory hogging MIUI crap except the camera and install some launcher like Nova.
Need some help regarding which files are safe to remove so the phone + camera app works
non expandable storage kills the mobile or else its good
sharan.nyn said:
I just thought the same!
My only reason to stay on MIUI is due to its camera. I was thinking somehow remove all the memory hogging MIUI crap except the camera and install some launcher like Nova.
Need some help regarding which files are safe to remove so the phone + camera app works
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If you want to switch, flash these -
1)Resurrection Remix (ROM)
2)Snapdragon Camera V2 (Keep the camera quality intact)
3)Viper4Android (Fix bad speaker and greatly improve jack audio)
4)Sensei Kernel (no heating issues - EVER, butter smooth performance all around, nearly a 2 day battery life)
With Snapdragon Camera -
Go to settings, change Contrast, Saturation and Sharpness to Level 6(Sharpness Level 2 is horrible)
Keep in mind that these settings can reset themselves after switching between HDR and normal, so check those first.
Enable Wavelet Denoise Mode too!
For Sensei Kernel -
1) Use zzmove governor for the big cores (high power), interactive for the LITTLE cores (low power).
2) Alucard CPU Hotplug - Max cores on screen on - 8, screen off - 2
3) I/O scheduler - zen, set read ahead to 1024kB
Now head over to Configurations in the Settings menu, go to performance tuning and force GPU for 2D rendering. This will affect battery life a little but will eliminate any kind of lag.
This is all I did and I'm very, very satisfied.
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If you want to switch, flash these -
1)Resurrection Remix (ROM)
2)Snapdragon Camera V2 (Keep the camera quality intact)
3)Viper4Android (Fix bad speaker and greatly improve jack audio)
4)Sensei Kernel (no heating issues - EVER, butter smooth performance all around, nearly a 2 day battery life)
With Snapdragon Camera -
Go to settings, change Contrast, Saturation and Sharpness to Level 6(Sharpness Level 2 is horrible)
Keep in mind that these settings can reset themselves after switching between HDR and normal, so check those first.
Enable Wavelet Denoise Mode too!
For Sensei Kernel -
1) Use zzmove governor for the big cores (high power), interactive for the LITTLE cores (low power).
2) Alucard CPU Hotplug - Max cores on screen on - 8, screen off - 2
3) I/O scheduler - zen, set read ahead to 1024kB
Now head over to Configurations in the Settings menu, go to performance tuning and force GPU for 2D rendering. This will affect battery life a little but will eliminate any kind of lag.
This is all I did and I'm very, very satisfied.
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Thanks for the reply . I will give RR ROM a try too.
Though I have installed the SD camera on MIUI itself but the quality is not as good as MIUI camera. I have to say though SD camera is the only replacement for custom ROMs
sharan.nyn said:
Thanks for the reply . I will give RR ROM a try too.
Though I have installed the SD camera on MIUI itself but the quality is not as good as MIUI camera. I have to say though SD camera is the only replacement for custom ROMs
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Yeah, that's true. Every other camera lags so much.
Hi guys, I'm going straight to the point: are you happy with your phone (in general, I know every phone has some minor annoyances)? I keep reading on the internet people that keep on lamenting about it (bad battery, laggy, awful RAM management, ect.), that's why I've opened this thread. I don't have the phone and I plan on buying it (it or the s6 edge or edge+, still have to decide - unfortunately the note 5 isn't coming to Europe anytime soon -), but all the reports are making me scared of buying it.
I'm happy with it. But you enjoy it more with root. Custom kernel fixes the ram issue, keeps the system speedy, custom roms add more features and debtor for better performance and ram management. So I'm basically enjoying it because of root
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Like osmosizzz above I can say that I am very happy with this phone. Once you root it and remove the bloatware this thing flies. Using a custom ROM and kernel I have better battery life, endless customization options and a speedy UI experience.
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I'd like not to have to root, I'm just tired of it (coming from a nexus 4), but I guess I might consider it if I buy the S6
You really dont have to have root as the phone is still plenty fast and with each update that comes out they are improving the software of the phone.
It's the best phone I ever had, my only gripes are aggressive memory management and the placement of the speaker (I usually end up covering it when holding it ), lag and battery are a lot better since the 2nd 511 update, the first update from 501 was rather laggy
I have 2 of this phone. here are my opinions:
1st phone (rooted and on XstrestoLite ROM)
I have great battery life, responses and everything seems fine except for the current bug with BOGG firmwares, which resulted in the keyboard lag when coming for lockscreen (Keyboard open delay about 3-6 seconds) check out my battery life here and here
2nd phone (stock and not rooted ever)
I find that the battery life on this phone not as great as my 1st phone, but however, everything is pretty smooth and great to me. But for a short time i had problems with GPS not being able to lock properly on Waze and Google Maps, however, not sure what happened (i didn't update the phone or anything) but it was back to normal again. and never happened again ever since.
Verdict: i love both my phones, i'll have them only until the Samsung Galaxy S7 comes out.
I owned this phone for over 4 months now. It never lag and blazing fast, the fastest android phone I've ever seen and the most amazing design I've ever seen too. It is just how the poor memory management kills apps at the background when you doing heavy multi-tasking, I've heard the 2nd 5.1.1 OTA fixed it. If multi-tasking is your concern, you should consider S6 Edge Plus comes with 4GB ram.
The battery performance is above average, imagine when you got this ultra smooth speed plus 2K screen and with only a 2550mAh capacity, I'll say it has done the job pretty well on battery life and enough to use a full day for any light to medium usage user. Heavy user will need a 2nd charge but it supports QC2.0(just get a QC2.0 powerbank) or wireless charging.
https://shopmeenova.appspot.com/st/p/mrg2.html
External storage can be overcome easily with this cute staff.
Since I'm a one-hand lover and the S6 size is the max. acceptable limit to me. I'm thinking to swap to Sony Z5 Compact later but that's s810 cpu overheating issue scared me away, I may just stick with S6 until S8 out, still not decided yet atm.
Its pretty good, but the RAM management and the occasional battery freakout (background drain) are irritating. If 5.1.1 fixes these 2 issues, I'm gold.
Before anyone tells me I can custom, its a work phone, I need full stock unrooted/knox intact otherwise I can't hook into my work's MDM systems (yes, its really nazi security).
But even without root, debloating via package disabler pro/debloater makes a noticeable difference to battery, which is a poor indictment of Samsung (6th generation Galaxy and still not learnt their lesson?).
The camera is out of this world and you get REALLY used to having a reliable fingerprint reader, I just rest my thumb stupidly on the home button on other people's phones (and if there isn't a physical home button I just stare stupidly at the screen for ~2 seconds lol).
I've never actually used the 'swap battery' feature so don't miss it, work phone so I got the storage bumped but if I paid for it myself I'd probably be irritated at the cost
One happy user here.
Battery life, my only gripe. Otherwise a perfect phone for me. Won't be rooting, just changed the launcher (Nova prime) and Skinomi case. Happy S6 user here!
apart from the camera I don't like any thing about this phone.
Best phone i,ve ever had,fantastic camera/screen/battery lasts me a full day no problems at all
Unhappy user here; bad battery life, laggy software, agressive memory resulting to bad multi tasking; will definitely change the phone.
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I'm quite pleased with it, and I didn't even root mine. I'm especially impressed with the GearVR.
Count me with the happy owners!
I will root soon anyway to get more flexibility and customization.
Since updating to the EVR firmware (for network specific settings) I love it, super fast and great performance even with intensive games. My one issue is battery life; although it lasts the day with ordinary use it does drain after a while of continuous use, but then again with fast charging I just plug it in for a few minutes and all is good.
Is there any fix for the memory management?
The Zel said:
Hi guys, I'm going straight to the point: are you happy with your phone (in general, I know every phone has some minor annoyances)? I keep reading on the internet people that keep on lamenting about it (bad battery, laggy, awful RAM management, ect.), that's why I've opened this thread. I don't have the phone and I plan on buying it (it or the s6 edge or edge+, still have to decide - unfortunately the note 5 isn't coming to Europe anytime soon -), but all the reports are making me scared of buying it.
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Only thing I dislike about this phone is the battery, but as other have said. Root->custom rom + kernel (and MAYBE soon Xposed) and this phone is at least average in battery life.
If you don't root (and is a power user, the phone is not for you). With root + custom rom + few tweaks I can go around 3-6 hours SOT on data (depending on brightness) and 6+ on wifi. Without I barely hit 3.
Phones like the Xperia Z3 compact can hit 6 hours SOT without root. So yeah, if rooting this phone is great, if not it sucks from a power user perspective.
Psych0t1c20 said:
Is there any fix for the memory management?
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Latest 5.1.1 has fixed it.
This thread is intended to have power users post their best configurations so as to guide the rookies in optimizing their MXPs once they get unlocked and rooted. It's also intended to compare the best setups for battery, performance, gaming, multitasking, etc.
My main interest is in battery life, although lately I've been on the XDA Labs app like crazy and it's hurting my drain.
Constructive criticism welcome on how to improve the below records!
ROM: Stock MM Canadian
Kernel: Ultra Kernel R3
Governor: Smartmax
Frequencies: 200 big, 800 little
Xposed Framework modules: Force Fast Scroll, Lucky Patcher, GravityBox (duh!), Use USB For Marshmallow, Xposed GEL Settings
Best SOT: 8 hours
Best Drain (100% to 0%): 120 hours
Other miscellaneous tweaks: Shake Flashlight as a system app instead of double-chop (works great, just don't let go)
Launcher: Still figuring that out...but Nova and DarkLauncher are worthy contenders right at the moment
Voice Assist/Google Now on long-press Home: Disabled thanks to @pijes. Settings > Apps > Gear icon > Default Apps > Voice and Assist > None
Post below, power users! What's your best setup so far?
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
ashwath230 said:
Bro, I would like you use Greenify and DS Battery saver
As you have xposed framework installed you can use boost mode in greenify and also
DS Battery saver also has a module so activate them and then choose slumberer and phew see your battery stats
Coming to launcher, right now Arrow launcher is good and smooth and I prefer that
Thank you!
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Cool man thanks. I'll try the Greenify and DS you recommend. I've seen Greenify a lot around XDA. I'm excited to try it.
Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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Tesla rom(seems faster/smoother then stock/anyother rom) plus Squid kernel. Governor is set to Lionfish and I/O scheduler is set to Row with 512kb readahead. Minimum frequency for the Big cluster is 800mhz and 499mhz for the little cluster. NFC and location disabled. Best battery life I ever got was with stock with the same kernel/settings configuration, had 9 hrs SOT and nearly 24 hrs overall.
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What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
I'll post my setup. Been using it this way for like 2 weeks so I feel it's stable.
I'm currently running this:
Unlocked BL obviously
Stock Canada firmware (MPD24.65-18)
Rooted
Xposed Framework installed
Squid Kernel r14b
I have gravity box installed and that's really it as far as tweaks and stuff.
Averaging 5 or 6 hours SOT down to about 25% or 30%. Really depends on what I do and what network I use. Performance is great too.
I'm gonna mess around with some of this stuff tonight and see what I can do with it.
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I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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JohnHorus said:
It would be awesome to see more growth in this thread! It would enable prospective buyers to talk to current owners, and figure out what they might want before they sink money into the device!
*cough*cough*
Which is exactly what I was hoping to do! Does anyone know if sweep to wake/sleep is possible with the Moto X Play? It's honestly one of the most useful features I've ever seen from rooting et al.
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Hey hey. Thanks for posting!
I'm sure sweep to wake is possible on the phone in some way, likely through a combination of rooting and Xposed modules. I know that GravityBox has a double tap on status bar to sleep feature.
One of the nicest features of the X Play is the Moto Display. It's nice to have the phone screen come.on showing notifications without fully waking the phone. Check out the Moto Display app on the Play Store. It's a totally sexy feature.
I'd say this phone is absolutely worth it for the battery alone. I personally feel the camera to be laggy especially with focus, so consider that if you're a shutterbug. I am very hopeful that software updates will being out the power of the camera but it doesn't have optical image stabilization so blir happens more frequently, at least for me. That could be my shake fingers though.
Feel free to ask any further questions!
brian10161 said:
I'm trying the interactive governor in Squids kernel, some of the stuttering issues have disappeared. Like when I clear all recents in the task switcher screen or scrolling big web pages.
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Good stuff. Interactive does appear to handle web pages better. I did a Wikipedia search for The Simpsons and got a huge page. I flicked down to scroll it all at once and then Chrome froze. Hahahaba. Same with Lionfish though. Maybe I'm getting greedy thinking this phone is as powerful as my PC.
Lionfish was giving me great SOT results. Like I mentored in the OP: 8 HOURS! Was so happy to see that. Blew the socks off my Nrxus 4. I average between 6.5 and 8 usually, but WhatsApp and XDA Labs are hurting those scores now.
I haven't had to Greenify any apps yet - I only hsvr geeky ones installed anyway so they never keep the phone awake.
Gopinath15 said:
Marshmalux. Rooted. Xposed. Greenify. Powernap. Amplify.
Getting sot around 5.5 hours for my usage. Happy with that squid kernel latest r15. Lionfish on both cores
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I think @squid2 deserves a lot of credit for extending the X Play even further. His kernel and work on TWRP make the X Play even more attractive than it is out of the box.
I prefer Ultra kernel personally because I believe the dev for that (@technoander) takes the latest releases of squid's and adds features to them. I may be mistaken but that's my impression. I'll try to clarify and report back. I should do a direct comparison of Ultra and squid's latest to be as objective as is possible with a subjective test. Hahaha.
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
JohnHorus said:
I guess I should specify a bit further - sweep/tap2wake is really only effectively useful when the phone supports some kind of low-power state for the touchscreen, otherwise the screen has to remain on in order to use it.
I'm sure sweep2sleep would be possible, but if there's no low-power state for the screen, it wouldn't really matter for me in the end. Moto display sounds like exactly what I'm talking about, though I don't know if it includes any low power mode for the touch features, as well as the display.
I'm gonna look into this a bit more, and see if I can dig up any info. It would be a hardware feature, designed-in, so it definitely should be discoverable. I figure if I can find out all the information for one of the people who have written kernels for the phone, they shouldn't have a problem emulating the feature. It's popular enough, and with the low-power state, shouldn't be too complex to implement.
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Cool - definitely report back - it would be nice to know if this is embedded in the hardware somewhere. I hope it is, unlike optical.image stabilization. Damn!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
What do you mean nearly 24 hours overall - how long before you had to recharge?
I need to learn more about I/O scheduling. I've changed to Row and 512 as you recommend but where will I see the difference? When I connect to my PC? When apps access internal storage?
I've changed my governor back to lionfish. Smartmax wasn't doing it for me. 200 big 800 little. I'll look into that Tesla ROM too.
I was hoping this thread was gonna be more popular. I hope some people have gotten use out of it so far! Grow little thread, grow!
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
xtremeed2705 said:
Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Row is essentially the best scheduler. Benchmarking is weird, because by design it's an optimized test case and not a use case. Use cases will always be variable, but generally with a smartphone writes aren't too latency-sensitive. That's why Read Over Write generally works the best once your phone is settled, because reading is most of what it does. Doesn't write too often.
There are lots of custom governors, not so many custom schedulers, and lots of suggestions, but generally stock *IS* best, and if you don't understand it, you should not change it. Governors are fun to play with but even they can cause issues if poorly coded. Changing governors will give you a huge impact on battery, but also a relative impact on performance. It all depends on the use context. You'll rarely get much battery life without a performance hit unless you custom-tune settings for your own use context.
As for read-ahead, that value is iconic of exactly what I'm talking about. It is the "chunks" of data that your OS reads in one go. So if it needs 2k, or 2m, it reads a different number of chunks, but each chunk will be the size set by I/O read-ahead. Google likes 512 best. I've been told by the dev for the EX Kernel that internal Motorola devs like 128 best. Benchmarks like the biggest value possible, because they present the OS a massive pile of data and ask it to read it all as fast as possible. In that context, a large chunk size saves time. In most contexts, you read more than you need half the time. So a low value like 128 saves battery and memory.
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kiran91 said:
Hey developer,the banking apps I have does run after flashing a custom rom.Is there any workaround for this?.have to reflash stock after trying any custom rom.Its a pain in the as*.
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Android pay does this too, it's a "security" feature built-in by the devs to stop hacking. Not really necessary, but then neither are smartphones, so you take what you can get I guess. No ROM developer can work around this for you. The app is detecting any modification whatsoever. Even root may cause it.
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Yes nearly 24 hrs before I had to recharge. As for Row you should notice it with both situations. I use it because of other phones I had before people were saying it was one of the better I/O schedulers.
Actually I have a picture of when I got it. Was nearly 23 hrs not 24 but still.
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Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
Hey @JohnHorus - thanks for your informative post. I'm currently trying Row 128 and will report back but I doubt I'll see any real-world difference in use. Memory and battery are two soft spots for me so I'm hopeful 128 will maintain solid performance.
Looking forward to reading about others' setups!
XxMikeMasterxX said:
Badass dude. 9 hours SOT is wicked.
I'm finding the phone app drains the battery like crazy. Is this to be expected?
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Yeah in my experience it drains the battery more then doing other things for some reason. As you can see in my 9 hrs picture I only used the phone for like 2 minutes lol.
What kernels are you guys using and why? I'm on stock but willing to try out some
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/help/kernel-t3847767
This thread might help you.....
Currently using blu spark kernel, shifted from EX.
Im on EX. Using the stune boost recommended on the second post of his thread along with top app boost set to 1 so it gets pushed to the big cluster. Ultimate smoothness and no stutters whatsoever. I think the battery drain might be higher with the topapp setting but it lasts me the day anyways so I don't care.
I used bluspark before as well. Provided me with the best battery results but I did get some hiccups with it.
Radioactive was also speedy like EX. Didn't test it long enough to compare to the finer detail but I figured if it behaves similarly I may as well stick with EX since I'm already familiar with the work since the M7 days.
spartan268 said:
Im on EX. Using the stune boost recommended on the second post of his thread along with top app boost set to 1 so it gets pushed to the big cluster. Ultimate smoothness and no stutters whatsoever. I think the battery drain might be higher with the topapp setting but it lasts me the day anyways so I don't care.
I used bluspark before as well. Provided me with the best battery results but I did get some hiccups with it.
Radioactive was also speedy like EX. Didn't test it long enough to compare to the finer detail but I figured if it behaves similarly I may as well stick with EX since I'm already familiar with the work since the M7 days.
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One of the perks of owning this phone it's the insane speed. I've tried Ex in the past, on the OPO mainly, to try to get some extra hours out of a worn out battery. I used to use blu on my N5 for the same reason, I remember enjoying it.
I'm wondering why would someone tradeoff stock
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One of the perks of owning this phone it's the insane speed. I've tried Ex in the past, on the OPO mainly, to try to get some extra hours out of a worn out battery. I used to use blu on my N5 for the same reason, I remember enjoying it.
I'm wondering why would someone tradeoff stock
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I am using EX kernel specifically because it supports WireGuard VPN kernel module, meaning the VPN connection to my home I have running 24/7 uses less battery and has higher throughput!
That, and the fact I have used EX kernel for many past devices, and the dev flar2 is really active with updates etc
Owned a OnePlus X - I rooted that phone because the manufacturer stopped making updates for it.
Owned a Pixel 1 - I rooted that one, and a while it was nice, it was annoying having to manually update once a month.
Does anyone else think it's not worth rooting just because it's of how much support Google already gives on its lineup of phones? I also checked the ROMs section of XDA, and there doesn't appear to be very many ROMs for this device anyway.
What do you guys think? I'm a big advocate for rooting, but only when the good outweighs the bad. Right? What do you personally use root access for?
You don't need to root to have a custom rom running. You just need a unlock bootloader and TWRP to flash roms, root is optional.
ttocs99 said:
You don't need to root to have a custom rom running. You just need a unlock bootloader and TWRP to flash roms, root is optional.
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This is true, but you still don't get OTA updates. Doesn't change anything I wrote above. But what you said is accurate, and I'm glad you pointed it out. Because some people may not know the difference between rooting and simply unlocking your bootloader.
I use J4N's Pixel edge mod. Now when I squeeze my phone, the flashlight comes on instead of the default action. I also use smali patcher to keep my location private to all apps. Don't need permanent root, but I use ElementalX app and flash the kernel Flar2 makes for our device also.
Due to rooting, I don't take updates immediately. I usually take them when big changes or fixes are done, like the recent updates to Vulkan on our phone.
For example, I ran Sept update until mid Dec when I flashed Dec update and the recent ElementalX 3.11 kernel. (Sept was A11 launch and either Nov or Dec had some Vulkan API updates)
Uzephi said:
I use J4N's Pixel edge mod. Now when I squeeze my phone, the flashlight comes on instead of the default action. I also use smali patcher to keep my location private to all apps. Don't need permanent root, but I use ElementalX app and flash the kernel Flar2 makes for our device also.
Due to rooting, I don't take updates immediately. I usually take them when big changes or fixes are done, like the recent updates to Vulkan on our phone.
For example, I ran Sept update until mid Dec when I flashed Dec update and the recent ElementalX 3.11 kernel. (Sept was A11 launch and either Nov or Dec had some Vulkan API updates)
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This is actually really good to know. Seems like a lot of the OT updates that Google pushes out are just simple security or patches.
Question about ElementalX. I installed a custom kernel on an older phone of mine, a lot of people raved about how great it was. From my experiences, however, it seemed like just a placebo effect. Do you actually notice anything with ElementalX? Hope that doesn't come off rude or anything.
pojr said:
This is actually really good to know. Seems like a lot of the OT updates that Google pushes out are just simple security or patches.
Question about ElementalX. I installed a custom kernel on an older phone of mine, a lot of people raved about how great it was. From my experiences, however, it seemed like just a placebo effect. Do you actually notice anything with ElementalX? Hope that doesn't come off rude or anything.
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I understand the weariness. I use EX due to the wakelock blocker and the minor fixes to optimize the kernel does make a slight difference in idle battery life. Overnight I only lose 1% battery on EX compared to 5-6% on stock. I don't notice any battery savings during use though compared to stock.
Edit: with EXKM app and EX kernel, you can get sensor readings also. I always have my CPU temp in my notification panel for quick access to it. I beta test a game and give feedback on how much their optimizations have improved. Like last iteration of the beta, my phone was reaching 52°C compared to the live app nearly overheating my phone at 67°C. All with a quick pull down of my notification tray.
Obviously that is a very minor and unique use case.
Edit 2: one other magisk module I forgot to say I use is AccA. Which is a battery charging module. I have it set to stop charging my phone at 81% and shut off my phone at 30% if discharging. I keep my battery at those levels to help prolong it's life as usually over 80% drastically shortens the battery life of your phone. Whether that's proven with this phone is yet to be seen. I personally haven't seen battery degradation in the 18 months I've had the phone so far.
Uzephi said:
I understand the weariness. I use EX due to the wakelock blocker and the minor fixes to optimize the kernel does make a slight difference in idle battery life. Overnight I only lose 1% battery on EX compared to 5-6% on stock. I don't notice any battery savings during use though compared to stock.
Edit: with EXKM app and EX kernel, you can get sensor readings also. I always have my CPU temp in my notification panel for quick access to it. I beta test a game and give feedback on how much their optimizations have improved. Like last iteration of the beta, my phone was reaching 52°C compared to the live app nearly overheating my phone at 67°C. All with a quick pull down of my notification tray.
Obviously that is a very minor and unique use case.
Edit 2: one other magisk module I forgot to say I use is AccA. Which is a battery charging module. I have it set to stop charging my phone at 81% and shut off my phone at 30% if discharging. I keep my battery at those levels to help prolong it's life as usually over 80% drastically shortens the battery life of your phone. Whether that's proven with this phone is yet to be seen. I personally haven't seen battery degradation in the 18 months I've had the phone so far.
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It seems like you've paid a lot of attention to it, and it sounds like having a custom kernel is effective enhancing the battery. I'm not sure if the average person would notice it though unless they were really paying attention to it. As someone who doesn't care that much about kernels, I don't see much of a benefit to rooting other than maybe AdAway and that Pixel Edge mod (that does se pretty cool).
The only thing I have ever used root for has been for Substratum. Now that some ROMs have custom theming options, I find root itself to be an added headache not worth the hassle. I would really love to test out ElementalX, but there is no straight boot.img install option, and I can't justify rooting just to install it.