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SD Card - System Memory - Internal Memory !

Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J

tourjefferson said:
Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J
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system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.

jimakos29 said:
system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
I have seen the thread regarding Gameloft games, but if I'm not mistaken my phone need to be rooted, which I'm not planning to do any time soon. So that thread doesn't help me to get rid of the games from my internal memory.
Also, the App 2 SD app doesn't send the apps that I have in the internal memory to the external SD. It keeps sending the apps to(or from) internal and system memory.
So, I've got an empty external SD card that I can't transfer anything there even using an app that supposed to do that.
Is there anyway that I can move the apps manually?
Regarding the apps that keep running without need, that didn't happen when I had Froyo and it seems to me that running several apps on the background can cost my battery juice, so this is not so clever.

Apps did run in background on froyo as I rooted specifically to stop some but maybe they were not doing so when you checked as they stop in certain circumstances.
As for the sd thing you are right and it sucks but for some reason lg made it so when we choose install to sd it goes to internal sd card and I have yet to find way around this though for me its not a problem as I use my actual external sd card as storage for camera app and backups instead but the internal one will fit plenty of apps on.
Dave
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I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701

But won't that mean that mess up apps or cause problems, for example if you click to format or unmount external sd wont it try doing that to the internal one?
Dave

Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter

Pjedr said:
Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter
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All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave

mistermentality said:
All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave
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Agreed, but I don't have space lol
Anyway, found out that the problem with app running themselves on the background are worst than I first thought.
All kinds of apps seem to start themselves and keep running, that caused my phone to loose a 100% battery over the night!
Is anyone having this problem?

Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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mistermentality said:
Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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I'm 99% sure that the problem are the apps running.
Before, with Froyo, I didn't have this problem (apps starting themselves) and the battery was just fine.
I've realised something recently though, when I was using the app "App 2 SD" I was sending some apps to my System Memory in order to free space on Internal Memory.
What I noticed was that the apps in the System memory were the ones starting up themselves, so I moved them back to internal memory and they seem not to be starting again.
I'm keeping an eye on it because it's weird, but it's been almost one full day and my battery is doing okay, or that is what least seems to appear on my screen.

Pjedr said:
I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701
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hi,
Which config file is this? Is this the config file for apps2sd or the vold.stab file? (I could no longer the thread in your link)
Thanks

I think apps auto running in background is the major bug in GB, and i also have this problem so you are not alone or the only one having this problem

[Q] Methods to Move Stubborn Apps to SD Card

Hey Guys -
I've got a quick question, please... I recently added a 64gb MicroSD to my tablet, formatted it, and was able to move some apps to it and free up space. The problem is, that I can only move some apps to the SD card. Others have the buttons "Move to Tablet" and "Move to SD Card" bot greyed out.
I know that some developers can set the game to where it can or cannot be moved, but I researched to find out that some of the games which were grayed out support being moved which I cannot. Here are some examples:
- GTA: Vice City
- GTA: San Andreas
- Demon's Score
- ARC: Redux
I thought the issue may be due to KitKat "security" issues with the SD, but it allowed me to move some games and I thought Nvidia bypassed that issue anyways for the Shield in OEM firmware. Since I'm rooted, I went ahead and installed "HandleExternalStorage" via Xposed Installer which supposedly resolves the KitKat issue. After a reboot, though, I still cannot move some apps like the ones listed above.
The only other option I've seen is to use adb to set the system's default install location. Mine's currently set to "0" which is auto, but can easily be change to "1" which would install to SD. This would be last resort since I can see issues arising from this, but it's still an option.
Any thoughts on why this is happening and/or other methods to resolve it?
Thanks!

If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).

trowgundam said:
If you are rooted (which can be done without unlocking the bootloader currently), you can use Foldermount. I use it for a number of apps that cannot be moved the standard way. It is on the Play store. The only downside is if you want to link more than 3 things you'll have to get the Pro license (which is worth it in my opinion).
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Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!

The most common issue people run into with it is, while they setup the link they don't enable it. After the items is done moving things click on the little push pin icon. When that icon is green the symlink (at least I'm pretty sure that is what it is using) will be enabled/created or whatever it does. It is probably safe to enable the Symlink before it is done copying, but I normally wait just to make sure.

bzowk said:
Yes, I'm rooted. I downloaded the app and am trying it out now. So basically, all it does is create a symlink or directory junction? I tried it out with one app which had an 800mb data folder and 1.2gb obb folder in which I had it auto create folders and move the data for each. Upon running it, it tried to extract the data and failed. Think it was either because I'd had issue with that app already plus probably shouldn't have moved bot folders.
I just tried it a second time with ARC Redux. I moved the obb folder which was 600mb. The data folder was empty. After it moved (checked progress via notification window), I launched it. Upon launch, it tried to download the app's data file again.
What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
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Hi did you get this to work??

john09121 said:
Hi did you get this to work??
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I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.

using FolderMount
Virus.Shell said:
I can confirm that FolderMount works! I was even able to do it with Trine 2! Tested with Portal and Half-Life 2 and only noticed slightly longer load times.
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Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad

You can download and install it directly from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en=bv.74115972,d.bGQ

john09121 said:
Thanks for your last reply, please can you tell me if there an idiots guide to using FolderMount and also where look on the tablet for the installed apps and games, it just that I am new to the android system having left the iPad
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It depends on what you mean by "idiots guide". lol
Basically, your games can be saved in a few different locations on your device. But for the sake of brevity, I'll try my best!
∙The easiest way is to open the app then open the left side menu (either by swiping from the left of your screen or tapping in the top left corner.
∙Choose "Apps Analyzer" and let it do it's thing.
∙When it's done you should be presented with a list of your apps, sorted from largest to smallest (or already moved)
∙Click the app you want to move and you should see a screen showing you what data is stored where.
∙Then click 'Create pair' on the right side (Either for obb or data. I usually just pick the largest of the two and move that. Tho you can also move both)
∙Then you should be asked if you want to allow the FM to do things automatically. (If you don't know what you're doing just click yes)
∙Adjust the name if needed
∙Click the check-mark in the top right and wait
∙Assuming everything went well, then the last thing you'll need to do is tap the thumbtack on the 'List of pairs' screen to activate it
∙Now you should be good to go!

I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?

Slashee the Cow said:
I realise this is a couple of weeks old by now but I just got my Shield Tab a couple of days ago, have installed a few games and now the storage is nearly full - there's a few >1GB games which I can't move using the built in a2sd.
So I rooted it and installed FolderMount, but a lot of things just show up as 0B in the apps analyser and I don't have the option to move them.
Any idea what's going on here?
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Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.

aenews said:
Well after native Apps2SD, Link2SD is the way to go. Dunno if that helps =P. I'd use Foldermount or the equivalent after all else.
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Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.

Update: some apps for which the option to move to SD is disabled normally (I'm looking at you, GTA:VC) can be moved if I use an adb shell to set the install location to the SD card - but it also showed up in FolderMount.
Some games, however (I'm looking at you, Humble Bundle versions of Horn, Anomaly 2 and The Cave, at least) still can't be moved (I try, it works for a while and then says "couldn't move app", and they show up in FolderMount as 0B (without the option for it to link anything), and I can't seem to find where they're stored in the file system to move and symlink them manually.
So can anyone help me move these things? I was hoping not to have half of my available storage taken up by three games (which is why I got a nice big SD card when I bought this). Thanks

Linking
Slashee the Cow said:
Installed Link2SD. Seems to pick up the internal storage mounted as an SD card, and doesn't pick up the actual SD card. It says "You can link the app in order to move its files to your SD card", but I can't seem to find anywhere to do that.
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There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.

aenews said:
There should be a linking option. You have to first repartition your card and add a second partition to do this, preferrably EXT4. There are tons of great utilities out there, but I usually use MiniTool Partition Wizard on Windows. Put your microSD in your computer's card reader, and in MiniTool, all you gotta do is make the existing partition smaller and make a new EXT4 partition in the free space. I'd say maybe 5GB or so would be enough, but it depends on you and what you link.
Linking is different from Apps2SD. You can actually do both to save more space.
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Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).

Slashee the Cow said:
Thanks! Turns out things work when I follow instructions. I used a GParted live USB and created an ext4 partition on my SD card, 16gb (it's a 64gb card, so I've got plenty of space... I can resize it later if need be).
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Yup Gparted is a great tool. Awesome!

[Q] Move app and app data to SD?

So I have 16GB internal and a 64GB SD card. I noticed that when I go to apps and move an app to SD it doesn't move the apps data to SD. For example, Half-life is like 70ish MB but downloads 2GB of data. So when moved to SD it only moved the app 70MB to SD but 2GB of app data is still on internal storage. Is there any way to move the app data to SD as well?
I should point out I'm non-root android 5. I'd prefer not to root but if that's the only way I can I guess. I don't mind if it takes a paid app within reason but would prefer a free app if it takes an app. Thanks

I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?

Slashee the Cow said:
I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?
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Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks

Eat it iPhone said:
Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks
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Use foldermount.

As stated above, foldermount works wonders, especially for a gaming tablet.
It will also fix the SD card write limits in KK and L (L has eased up, but apps need to be updated to use the new APIs, so many still can't use the SD card).
I have saved some 6 gigs with this from my internal. Now if I could get a bigger SD card. Haha.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
(Well worth buying pro).

Thanks everyone. Using folder mount and so far so good.
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Can't install any apps or APKs. Redmi Note 7 Pro

First of all, sorry for my English. It is not my native language. :angel:
I'm having issues with my Redmi Note 7 Pro (rooted and running MIUI 10). I can't install any large apps from the Google Play Store or even APKs using other app stores like Qooapp or APKPure. The problem seems to pop up only when I try to install large games like Call of Duty Mobile, Vainglory, PUBG or Arena of Valor. I've been able to install other small apps and even games where the large file downloads occur INSIDE the game itself, like Dragalia Lost, Another Eden and Raid: Shadow Legends without any issues. It is only when I attempt to install a large game (usually +1gb) that I see this problem. Whenever I try installing through the Google Play Store, the download happens normally and then the installation fails silently when the download progress bar reaches 100%. And whenever I try using APKPure, for instance, I get a message saying "IO error. Not enough space available for instalation", even though I've got about 100gb of space left in my internal memory.
I've searched online and seen some people recommending clearing the cache memory of the Google Play Store app and Google Play Services, uninstalling any updates on the Google Play Store, rebooting my device, etc., since the problem could be caused by a lack of enough cache memory available to install the file, but these solutions didn't help me at all. I hope someone can help me troubleshoot and fix this issue
Thanks in advance! :good:

Was the available memory enough then?
Close any apps other than Play Store or APKPure while installing those game apps. Have a try.

James_Watson said:
Was the available memory enough then?
Close any apps other than Play Store or APKPure while installing those game apps. Have a try.
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Thanks for the reply! Sorry, this solution didn't help either. I closed every app other than the Google Play Store and tried installing COD Mobile again. I got the same problem. The download goes up to 100% and then silently fails.
I don't know if this is relevant, but when I try installing through the Play Store, the download goes up to 100% and then fails showing a message that says "Waiting for Wi-Fi," even though I am downloading from my Wi-Fi connection already. When I tap the button to download anyway, it downloads again all the way up to 100% and then fails and gets stuck at 7%. This is very confusing
If I try installing through APKPure, it'll just show the same "Not enough space available" message.

Clear the cache + Clear the data of the
Google Play Store app,
Google Services Framework,
and Google Play Services.

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Clear the cache + Clear the data of the
Google Play Store app,
Google Services Framework,
and Google Play Services.
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No, that didn't work either. I got the same result, the download goes all the way up to 100% ad then fails.
Any other ideas will be greatly appreciated.

SaltyMussel said:
No, that didn't work either. I got the same result, the download goes all the way up to 100% ad then fails.
Any other ideas will be greatly appreciated.
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Can you download & install any other smaller apps from the Google Play Store?

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Can you download & install any other smaller apps from the Google Play Store?
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Yes, any other small apps I've had no issues with (the Reddit and Amazon Shopping apps are a couple of examples).
And as mentioned, even games that show as a smaller-sized file on the Play Store but include a much larger download ingame (like Raid: Shadow Legends, which shows as 92mb on the Play Store but requires a 600~800mb download on startup) have worked without any issues. It's only the large apps that fail upon installation.

SaltyMussel said:
First of all, sorry for my English. It is not my native language. :angel:
I'm having issues with my Redmi Note 7 Pro (rooted and running MIUI 10). I can't install any large apps from the Google Play Store or even APKs using other app stores like Qooapp or APKPure. The problem seems to pop up only when I try to install large games like Call of Duty Mobile, Vainglory, PUBG or Arena of Valor. I've been able to install other small apps and even games where the large file downloads occur INSIDE the game itself, like Dragalia Lost, Another Eden and Raid: Shadow Legends without any issues. It is only when I attempt to install a large game (usually +1gb) that I see this problem. Whenever I try installing through the Google Play Store, the download happens normally and then the installation fails silently when the download progress bar reaches 100%. And whenever I try using APKPure, for instance, I get a message saying "IO error. Not enough space available for instalation", even though I've got about 100gb of space left in my internal memory.
I've searched online and seen some people recommending clearing the cache memory of the Google Play Store app and Google Play Services, uninstalling any updates on the Google Play Store, rebooting my device, etc., since the problem could be caused by a lack of enough cache memory available to install the file, but these solutions didn't help me at all. I hope someone can help me troubleshoot and fix this issue
Thanks in advance! :good:
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The large games are failing because the apps are downloaded in cache and then installed in your /data partition, not your internal storage.
It doesn't matter how much internal storage space you have, what matters is how much space your /data partition has, you don't have enough space in your /data partition to install the large apps, you also might not have enough space in your cache partition to properly download and install the apps.
The reason why the apps that download additional data inside the game are working like they should is because the apps themselves are installed in /data partition and they install just fine because you have enough space in /data partition. But the additional data that is downloaded inside the game does not install to the /data partition, it is installed/stored in your Android/data folder in your internal storage, you have plenty of internal storage so it installs without conflict.
One way to get the large apps to install is to delete some of the apps that you installed to clear some space in /data partition, if you clear enough space, you can install a large app with no issue.
Or, you can try repartitioning your device to increase the size of your /data partition.
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Droidriven said:
The large games are failing because the apps are downloaded in cache and then installed in your /data partition, not your internal storage.
It doesn't matter how much internal storage space you have, what matters is how much space your /data partition has, you don't have enough space in your /data partition to install the large apps, you also might not have enough space in your cache partition to properly download and install the apps.
The reason why the apps that download additional data inside the game are working like they should is because the apps themselves are installed in /data partition and they install just fine because you have enough space in /data partition. But the additional data that is downloaded inside the game does not install to the /data partition, it is installed/stored in your Android/data folder in your internal storage, you have plenty of internal storage so it installs without conflict.
One way to get the large apps to install is to delete some of the apps that you installed to clear some space in /data partition, if you clear enough space, you can install a large app with no issue.
Or, you can try repartitioning your device to increase the size of your /data partition.
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Thanks for the reply. I tried deleting a bunch of apps and ended up getting rid of about 2gb worth of data. Unfortunately, that still didn't do the trick I could delete some more, but those are apps I'd actually like to keep.
Do you know how this repartitioning process works? Is it complicated to do? I'm a little bit scared of messing with the flash memory of the phone, it was actually a (more knowledgeable) friend of mine who rooted the phone for me. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started looking a little bit into this and I read somewhere that perhaps getting an SD card and moving the data of some other apps from the data partition to the SD card partition might release enough space for the large apps to install without issues. Does this sound at all feasible? That would free me from having to mess with things that could potentially brick my phone.

SaltyMussel said:
Thanks for the reply. I tried deleting a bunch of apps and ended up getting rid of about 2gb worth of data. Unfortunately, that still didn't do the trick I could delete some more, but those are apps I'd actually like to keep.
Do you know how this repartitioning process works? Is it complicated to do? I'm a little bit scared of messing with the flash memory of the phone, it was actually a (more knowledgeable) friend of mine who rooted the phone for me. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
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I believe the Magisk framework has a module that can do that for you, I'm not familiar with how it used though.
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Droidriven said:
I believe the Magisk framework has a module that can do that for you, I'm not familiar with how it used though.
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I haven't been able to find anything about a Magisk module that would help me do that. I'll keep looking though. Also, any clue if the SD card idea I mentioned earlier would be a fix at all? Or that isn't really how this works?

SaltyMussel said:
I haven't been able to find anything about a Magisk module that would help me do that. I'll keep looking though. Also, any clue if the SD card idea I mentioned earlier would be a fix at all? Or that isn't really how this works?
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Actually, it is possible to install your apps directly to external sdcard, the drawback to that is you sacrifice a bit of performance because running apps from external is slower than if the app was internally installed.
Another possible option is to use the Adoptable Storage option, it is designed to format your external memory as internal memory so that the device sees internal and external as one continuous "drive", so to speak. I wouldn't recommend using Adoptable Storage though because if the external sdcard gets corrupted it results in a non-working device that has to be recovered and you'll most likely lose your saved data.
Finding a mod that allows installing your apps to external is the better, safer option. It might be a bit slower than installing to internal, but it's easier to fix issues if something goes wrong.
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Droidriven said:
Actually, it is possible to install your apps directly to external sdcard, the drawback to that is you sacrifice a bit of performance because running apps from external is slower than if the app was internally installed.
Another possible option is to use the Adoptable Storage option, it is designed to format your external memory as internal memory so that the device sees internal and external as one continuous "drive", so to speak. I wouldn't recommend using Adoptable Storage though because if the external sdcard gets corrupted it results in a non-working device that has to be recovered and you'll most likely lose your saved data.
Finding a mod that allows installing your apps to external is the better, safer option. It might be a bit slower than installing to internal, but it's easier to fix issues if something goes wrong.
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Thanks a lot for the guidance. I'll look more into both the SD memory option and the repartitioning option and I'll post another message once I find the solution (hopefully soon). Nonetheless, I can't help but wonder what could've caused this. Is this a problem that all devices have? Or could it be linked to the rooting process?
Regardless, thanks again for the help.

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Thanks a lot for the guidance. I'll look more into both the SD memory option and the repartitioning option and I'll post another message once I find the solution (hopefully soon). Nonetheless, I can't help but wonder what could've caused this. Is this a problem that all devices have? Or could it be linked to the rooting process?
Regardless, thanks again for the help.
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I can't say for certain, things are different from one device to the next, you never know what kind of bugs are gonna happen.
Android is inconsistent, you could have different devices experiencing the same issue but they may not have the same cause. There can also be an issue that has a known solution on "this" device or "this" android version but the same solution doesn't work on "that" device or "that" android version. As they say, your mileage may vary.
Try asking in your device specific forum if there is one here for your device, or, try asking in another thread for this device that deals with rooting or a thread that deals with a similar issue to yours. You may get better answers from members that own the same device or members that have experienced the same issue.
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200MB free is considered low on storage?

My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it. Is there a fix? It seems to me like Google has no real interest in fixing major issues with Android that have existed practically since the beginning like devices being "low on storage" while Android is the top mobile OS. Perhaps if something like Pinephone would actually succeed & give Android some competition Google would care & address the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)

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My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it.
the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
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Well yeah, 200MB is definitely low on storage. And this message can certainly be annoying but it's not a bug, but a "security" mesure, if you need to take a photo or something, or if an app needs more space to run, it'd be a good thing to have 200MB leftover.

Nowadays apps can take >200Mb just for cache so yeah, it's considered nothing. I personally try to keep at least 1GB free.
Have you checked your storage whether something can be deleted? This is a great app for showing you storage use

You can put in up to a 256 gb SD card, what are you waiting for?
Use internal memory for the OS, programs and downloads (temporarily).
Use the SD card as the data drive.

Yeh, Up to 256 gb SD card should work a treat...

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Yeh, Up to 256 gb SD card should work a treat...
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10+ takes up to 1 tb, put a Lexar .5 tb V30 in it for $75. Not too shabby... daul drives are a beautiful thing. Can do a full reload now with no PC and little or no internet connection; completely self contained.

Very cool indeed!

galaxys said:
Very cool indeed!
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The newer generations of Samsung's are capable of very faster read/write times on a fast sd card.
The 10+ shows no lag when using media files off the card. Literally have over 200 albums stored as .wav files there and movies too.
Provides a little bit of a buffer too from malware getting into the data; I've picked off a couple in the downloads folder before they got going including a jpeg. The whole card is backed up on the PC and a 2nd hdd... just in case.
Lol, have an old Dell e6400 laptop I picked up cheap. Just realized 3 weeks ago I could swap out the DVD/CD player for a hot swappable hdd insert tray... $100 latter it now has a 2tb data drive. Split the page file between the two for now, OS and data speeds are a lot better.
You can -never- have too many internal bays on any device, only not enough.

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Use the SD card as the data drive.
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What do you mean by "set it as the data drive"?

The problem is I factory reset because of being low on storage, & left off a lot of the apps I had before & I'm still every bit as low on storage as I was before if not more. What am I supposed to do when I'm not the one at fault for my phone being low on storage? I would root so I could rip out all of the samsung bloat but A. I can't afford to buy a new phone should something go wrong, & B. I don't think the galaxy On5 has a 1-click root which means having to use a windows computer which I don't have.

Android phones have an in-built feature known as Adoptable Storage, which enables users to add an extra layer of storage space for music, pictures, videos, files, and so on.
The interesting thing is that the Adoptable Storage feature allows SD cards to serve as a permanent internal storage medium. This means that everything you save on your phone will be moved to the external storage (SD card) you mounted, and not your phone's internal storage. With SD cards in play, you never have to worry about your phone's storage getting full, and developing lagging problems.

I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible. I remember Google saying when they gave the first presentation on android that they wouldn't allow preinstalled, un-removable, then they did, & still do.

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The problem is I factory reset because of being low on storage, & left off a lot of the apps I had before & I'm still every bit as low on storage as I was before if not more. What am I supposed to do when I'm not the one at fault for my phone being low on storage? I would root so I could rip out all of the samsung bloat but A. I can't afford to buy a new phone should something go wrong, & B. I don't think the galaxy On5 has a 1-click root which means having to use a windows computer which I don't have.
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I use 20gb just for apps, caches and a tempory download folder. So if you 16gb of memory yeah I see the issue and had to trim the the tree with S4+ before.
Use this package disabler:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Disable crap you don't need and then use that same app to clear it's data. The app is still there just not running and sucking up memory by adding more via data/cache.
Clear browser cache regularly, limit the phone to two browsers max. Clear data regularly on gmaps if you don't need that data or disable if you don't use it. Police the caches regularly, SD Maid (16mb) does a good job.
As for your music, vids, documents, pics, put all of that on an SD card.
Although you can use the SD card as internal memory as jwoegerbauer points out it's best not to unless you can't avoid it. You may have to though if you can't live without some of those large user installed apps.
I could cut my 10+ down to 14gb internal if I had too... so can you.
There are apps I rarely use. As pointed out already you should have at least 1gb of free space preferably 2gb or more head room.
Sort it out as what you're doing now isn't good Android husbandry.

tsaxda said:
I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible.
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Not on your model without root apperantly.
How to adopt SD card as internal storage on Samsung devices?
I recently upgraded to 6.0.1 Marshmallow on my Galaxy S5 and I would like to adopt an SD card as internal storage. However, there is no option to do this. When I format the SD card, there is no "
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It can cause operational issues anyway including crashes. Try to use the KISS (keep it simple studip) principle whenever possible to limit things that can go wrong.

tsaxda said:
I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible. I remember Google saying when they gave the first presentation on android that they wouldn't allow preinstalled, un-removable, then they did, & still do.
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Whether Adoptable Storage is default feature on a phone or not can easily queried with following ADB command sequence:
Code:
adb devices
adb shell "sm has-adoptable"
If true is returned than phone has this feature.

tsaxda said:
My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it. Is there a fix? It seems to me like Google has no real interest in fixing major issues with Android that have existed practically since the beginning like devices being "low on storage" while Android is the top mobile OS. Perhaps if something like Pinephone would actually succeed & give Android some competition Google would care & address the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
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200mb its nothing storage broh