New Z2 Force Antutu - Moto Z2 Force Themes, Apps, and Mods

So just picked it up yesterday. Been using it and decided to give it a run. Phone has not been rebooted since I powered it on.
Phone has it's faults but preforming pretty well. Not disappointed by how it runs. Just other stuff.

bignazpwns said:
So just picked it up yesterday. Been using it and decided to give it a run. Phone has not been rebooted since I powered it on.
Phone has it's faults but preforming pretty well. Not disappointed by how it runs. Just other stuff.
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Out of curiosity, what are you disappointed with?

filthyfnj24 said:
Out of curiosity, what are you disappointed with?
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Finish on the phone. The bumper after a few hours put about 6 scratches on it. The finish is way way to soft and thin. Under a microscope it's paint not anodized. Extremely poor finish.
15w charger huge step back.
Microscopic battery. Only good thing about being thinner is the old z force bumper fits and helps get rid of that little lip that the turbo battery pack as at the edge. So the feel is closer to the Incipio.
Shatter shield is fused to the display. However it looks like Moto put a stock screen protector on it. Under a microscope I can see a thing layer over the display looking around finger print reader and mic hole. Can't confirm it but I will try it if I ever have to send this in for warranty work.
3gb of ram. At this price point this phone to make up for the tiny battery should come with a battery mod or at least 6gb of ram. Something there is no excuse for that tiny battery.
Camera. WTF no ois? I need to test more to see but I tossed on the modded pixel camera app and I hope the camera is not that bad. But no ois is pretty fail.
Phone worth retail price? God no. I got it for $200 off and a free projector. So since I'm already deep into the Moto mods that's a good deal. But even that deal is a hard sell unless your like me with 4 batterys,. Speaker mod, car dock ect.

bignazpwns said:
Finish on the phone. The bumper after a few hours put about 6 scratches on it. The finish is way way to soft and thin. Under a microscope it's paint not anodized. Extremely poor finish.
15w charger huge step back.
Microscopic battery. Only good thing about being thinner is the old z force bumper fits and helps get rid of that little lip that the turbo battery pack as at the edge. So the feel is closer to the Incipio.
Shatter shield is fused to the display. However it looks like Moto put a stock screen protector on it. Under a microscope I can see a thing layer over the display looking around finger print reader and mic hole. Can't confirm it but I will try it if I ever have to send this in for warranty work.
3gb of ram. At this price point this phone to make up for the tiny battery should come with a battery mod or at least 6gb of ram. Something there is no excuse for that tiny battery.
Camera. WTF no ois? I need to test more to see but I tossed on the modded pixel camera app and I hope the camera is not that bad. But no ois is pretty fail.
Phone worth retail price? God no. I got it for $200 off and a free projector. So since I'm already deep into the Moto mods that's a good deal. But even that deal is a hard sell unless your like me with 4 batterys,. Speaker mod, car dock ect.
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Interesting about the finish. I've had 3 of these phones, the first was Att, then the T-Mobile and now a Sprint model. Judging by your 4g icon I'm assuming you are on Verizon (all carriers use a different LTE icon) and that's the only one I haven't handled. Despite being the same phone each one I've had has varied in terms of fit and finish.
The Att had the plasticy touch issue right around the fingerprint scanner, but otherwise was solid, probably the best. The T-Mobile had what looked like little chips missing around the bezel after only a day of use and the sim/SD slot was not flush, it was too recessed. The Sprint model I'm using now is pretty good, but the buttons have a little up and down play the others did not. Point being, Motorola has been incredibly inconsistent with their quality control.
My wife has the original z force on Verizon, and while that phone does feel more substantial naked, I can understand Motorola's decision to go thinner and lighter. Her phone becomes a brick with just about any mod (we have the JBL, style shell and Moto power pack)
As far as the battery is concerned, I will never complain about having a bigger battery. That said, I am happy with the battery life of this phone. The first couple days on each model were the worst, but they eventually settle in. I typically get through a full day with over %50 left and if I'm ever low I have a charger in my car and the power pack in the glove box.
I would have to agree on the price, with it's shortcomings this phone is not worth the MSRP (but I don't think any phone is) However, if you can get it for a good deal (I bought the T-Mobile model outright for $550 and sold it for about the same, and I'm paying $16.50/month for 24 months with Sprint. I paid Att's ridiculous asking price of $809 plus sales tax like a dummy, after I found out the bootloader was locked I returned it the next day) it's an awesome phone. While I do wish it had a headphone jack, notification led and better water resistance, these are all trade offs for a shatterproof screen. I knew that coming in and weighed the pros and cons. After having my last phone crack, shatter shield is worth the trade to me.

filthyfnj24 said:
Interesting about the finish. I've had 3 of these phones, the first was Att, then the T-Mobile and now a Sprint model. Judging by your 4g icon I'm assuming you are on Verizon (all carriers use a different LTE icon) and that's the only one I haven't handled. Despite being the same phone each one I've had has varied in terms of fit and finish.
The Att had the plasticy touch issue right around the fingerprint scanner, but otherwise was solid, probably the best. The T-Mobile had what looked like little chips missing around the bezel after only a day of use and the sim/SD slot was not flush, it was too recessed. The Sprint model I'm using now is pretty good, but the buttons have a little up and down play the others did not. Point being, Motorola has been incredibly inconsistent with their quality control.
My wife has the original z force on Verizon, and while that phone does feel more substantial naked, I can understand Motorola's decision to go thinner and lighter. Her phone becomes a brick with just about any mod (we have the JBL, style shell and Moto power pack)
As far as the battery is concerned, I will never complain about having a bigger battery. That said, I am happy with the battery life of this phone. The first couple days on each model were the worst, but they eventually settle in. I typically get through a full day with over %50 left and if I'm ever low I have a charger in my car and the power pack in the glove box.
I would have to agree on the price, with it's shortcomings this phone is not worth the MSRP (but I don't think any phone is) However, if you can get it for a good deal (I bought the T-Mobile model outright for $550 and sold it for about the same, and I'm paying $16.50/month for 24 months with Sprint. I paid Att's ridiculous asking price of $809 plus sales tax like a dummy, after I found out the bootloader was locked I returned it the next day) it's an awesome phone. While I do wish it had a headphone jack, notification led and better water resistance, these are all trade offs for a shatterproof screen. I knew that coming in and weighed the pros and cons. After having my last phone crack, shatter shield is worth the trade to me.
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i can definitely say that the camera needs alittle work with the black and white lense....

bignazpwns said:
Finish on the phone. The bumper after a few hours put about 6 scratches on it. The finish is way way to soft and thin. Under a microscope it's paint not anodized. Extremely poor finish.
15w charger huge step back.
Microscopic battery. Only good thing about being thinner is the old z force bumper fits and helps get rid of that little lip that the turbo battery pack as at the edge. So the feel is closer to the Incipio.
Shatter shield is fused to the display. However it looks like Moto put a stock screen protector on it. Under a microscope I can see a thing layer over the display looking around finger print reader and mic hole. Can't confirm it but I will try it if I ever have to send this in for warranty work.
3gb of ram. At this price point this phone to make up for the tiny battery should come with a battery mod or at least 6gb of ram. Something there is no excuse for that tiny battery.
Camera. WTF no ois? I need to test more to see but I tossed on the modded pixel camera app and I hope the camera is not that bad. But no ois is pretty fail.
Phone worth retail price? God no. I got it for $200 off and a free projector. So since I'm already deep into the Moto mods that's a good deal. But even that deal is a hard sell unless your like me with 4 batterys,. Speaker mod, car dock ect.
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It has 4GB of ram not 3. Also the international variant has a 6gb ram.

bignazpwns said:
So just picked it up yesterday. Been using it and decided to give it a run. Phone has not been rebooted since I powered it on.
Phone has it's faults but preforming pretty well. Not disappointed by how it runs. Just other stuff.
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It's a pretty fast device, but I've hit 4GB of RAM during heavy browsing sessions (160+ tabs open in Firefox Nightly. I'm a HEAVY multitasker) FTR, my HTC U11 with 6GB RAM doesn't have that issue. I've yet to hit that phone's limits, despite trying.

jdrch said:
It's a pretty fast device, but I've hit 4GB of RAM during heavy browsing sessions (160+ tabs open in Firefox Nightly. I'm a HEAVY multitasker) FTR, my HTC U11 with 6GB RAM doesn't have that issue. I've yet to hit that phone's limits, despite trying.
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I can confirm EU versions with 6GB RAM have no RAM issues while on my old Moto Z with 4 GB RAM I had to restart it quite often since of my heavy use, otherwise it would begin to continually swap and so lag & increase battery consumption...

New

Here's mine

My antutu test today
Sprint version

here it is off of my AT&T variant moto z2

Related

Best Buy has 32GB Moto X Pure for $249.99 (NEW) again

Pretty sweet deal! Not just for Best Buy Rewards Elite Members this time, $249.99... several stores I checked have it in stock (Minneapolis/St Paul area).
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorol...-phone-unlocked-black/4345700.p?skuId=4345700
Great deal. I would also look at the 64 GB refurbished for $279.95.
So I just walked into a Best Buy, and bought a black model for this price. I don't know if I will use this phone myself or whether I will pass it onto someone in my household, but the value is amazing. The Moto X Pure slaughters my Nexus 5X in almost every spec. Not having a fingerprint reader (which is the only thing that saves the Nexus from a complete embarrassment) is a turn off, but I can deal with that considering it's a 250USD smartphone with a fine screen and most other specs. The screen, the stereo audio speakers, and a healthy headphone gain make it a great device for multimedia consumption too.
I bought one and my GF's dad bought one. The local Best Buy ran out of stock but Fry's price matched. =D
There back at 249 this week!!!
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Ouch. I ordered one 2 weeks ago from the Motorola website for $299. They still haven't delivered, the status shows it is being built. I thought that was a good deal at $299. I would still be ok if they deliver it pretty soon. I am thinking of just canceling my order with them and taking a trip down to Best Buy.
This deal came at a good time for me. I had been using a Note 5 (64GB) since the beginning of the year and I was looking to sell it and get a less expensive daily driver until I go back to Samsung next year whenever they decide to release the next Note device (if they ever do, which I hope). I was looking around at several unlocked phones and ultimately decided to snatch up this MXPE with that nice price. I've flirted with getting this phone ever since it was released but I've been too addicted to the Note series and that S-Pen. I actually just needed some extra cash for the holidays and I figured I could just sell my Note 5 and use this less expensive phone so I could have a bit of profit.
Coming from AMOLED and haptic navigation buttons it's taking some getting used to but so far I'm enjoying the experience with this phone. These front-facing speakers... holy cow! The standard rubbery back to this phone makes me feel like I can use it regularly without a case, which is nice. I'm feeling confident to use it pretty much anywhere without fear of damaging it, unlike when I was using my Note 5 with its glass and metal design I always felt I needed to protect it.
One thing I really am missing from my Note 5 is having native call recording. I had hoped that when I installed GravityBox it may have offered an option for it like Wanam Xposed. Anyway, this device will suit me just fine until next summer. It's my first Moto device and first unlocked device so pretty interesting experience moving forward.
Sailor Gerry said:
Coming from AMOLED and haptic navigation buttons it's taking some getting used to but so far I'm enjoying the experience with this phone. These front-facing speakers... holy cow! The standard rubbery back to this phone makes me feel like I can use it regularly without a case, which is nice. I'm feeling confident to use it pretty much anywhere without fear of damaging it, unlike when I was using my Note 5 with its glass and metal design I always felt I needed to protect it.
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Glad you are enjoying the phone. I will say that with Moto display, an AMOLED screen would have better on battery. Aside from that, I would still recommend protection. The screen, due to its form factor, is susceptible to cracking from falls. I use cases and never had my screen crack yet, but many others have reported this issue.
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Glad you are enjoying the phone. I will say that with Moto display, an AMOLED screen would have better on battery. Aside from that, I would still recommend protection. The screen, due to its form factor, is susceptible to cracking from falls. I use cases and never had my screen crack yet, but many others have reported this issue.
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Yeah, that AMOLED is just sweet on battery life and those inky blacks are awesome. I'm actually going to try out this bumper they included in the box for a while and see how it feels. I just finally wanted to use something daily without a case and I figured this phone would be it. I'm careful with my phones to begin with but let's see how I feel about this bumper after a few days.
ETA: By the way, is there a way to just turn off Moto display?
Earlier this week BHPhoto had the X Pure 64GB on sale for $269, so I ordered two of them. Had been wanting to go with the LG V20 US996 Unlocked, but at $800 it is a bit too much. So decided to go with the X Pure instead for now.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1196058-REG/motorola_00947nartl_moto_x_pure_edition.html
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ETA: By the way, is there a way to just turn off Moto display?
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You can turn it off via the Moto app.

What next? - Moving on

My edge is serving my for almost 2 years now - time for every geek to start looking for a new piece of technology!
So i ask for your opinion for an successor of our nice little phone.
What will / did U buy next: S7(edge), Sony, HTC, Honor .. ?
A screen rather big, a living developer community, maybe water resistance - this is my desire..
a pen, edge screen? - i didn´t use them to often..
S7 Edge, if you wait longer s8
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S7 or S7 Edge is a great choice since you don't need the pen
I wouldn't go to other companies since most of them are not water proof like the S7
Or wait for the S8 like @Aimara said
I don't see a real reason to move from this phone.. I have not seen any relevant update in the latest smartphones.
Yes, you get a slightly faster processor -in real life usage, insignificant improvement- and a barely upgraded camera.. So unless you are just bored of the phone there isn't something really interesting out there.. The s7 edge? is basically this phone with a smaller form factor and edges that doesn't have any sort of special functionality.
For me, smartphones have been basically the same since the iphone 5s- galaxy s4- lg G2 -note 3 generation .. all the new stuff are just gimmicks and performance in real life barely improves at all, because the things that you can do with a phone are limited by the form factor and the small screen and companies have not been creative enough to deliver software that actually can take advantage of the increase in processing power and ram memory.
This phone had the potential to do a lot more stuff than it actually does.. for example: when you open windows in the browser the tabs should be located in the curved panel so you can switch between them easily (like in a desktop).. sadly companies don't give a sh*t about exploiting the potential of their phones a few months after you bought it.. you will get 1 or two updates that change a little bit the look of the notification bar and icons and that's it.. People should stop buying new phones that doesn't do anything new or better than their current phone. We are basically telling companies that we will buy any crap they release even if it barely have any advantage over a 3 years old phone.
Ridiculous high resolution? you have it (1080p was already crisp enough!)
Good camera? you have it
some curve? you have it
Marshmallow? you have it
Nougat? most note edge have an unlocked bootloader now, so eventually you'll have it
A note 7 edge is like us600 you can get a note edge on ebay for us200! it is ridiculous.
rodmc123 said:
I don't see a real reason to move from this phone.. I have not seen any relevant update in the latest smartphones.
Yes, you get a slightly faster processor -in real life usage, insignificant improvement- and a barely upgraded camera.. So unless you are just bored of the phone there isn't something really interesting out there.. The s7 edge? is basically this phone with a smaller form factor and edges that doesn't have any sort of special functionality.
For me, smartphones have been basically the same since the iphone 5s- galaxy s4- lg G2 -note 3 generation .. all the new stuff are just gimmicks and performance in real life barely improves at all, because the things that you can do with a phone are limited by the form factor and the small screen and companies have not been creative enough to deliver software that actually can take advantage of the increase in processing power and ram memory.
This phone had the potential to do a lot more stuff than it actually does.. for example: when you open windows in the browser the tabs should be located in the curved panel so you can switch between them easily (like in a desktop).. sadly companies don't give a sh*t about exploiting the potential of their phones a few months after you bought it.. you will get 1 or two updates that change a little bit the look of the notification bar and icons and that's it.. People should stop buying new phones that doesn't do anything new or better than their current phone. We are basically telling companies that we will buy any crap they release even if it barely have any advantage over a 3 years old phone.
Ridiculous high resolution? you have it (1080p was already crisp enough!)
Good camera? you have it
some curve? you have it
Marshmallow? you have it
Nougat? most note edge have an unlocked bootloader now, so eventually you'll have it
A note 7 edge is like us600 you can get a note edge on ebay for us200! it is ridiculous.
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I agree with all your points. The only thing bad about this phone is the battery. It's cancer. It barely lasts for more than 4 hrs wih max sot of 1.5 hrs. Has to be on a ventilator(readowerbank) for most of the day. And the worst part? Samsung India seems to have branded this device as "obsolete" as Im not able to get an OEM battery from the various Service Centers that i have tried.
This device had the potential to be much much more. Poor dev support(no offence to the few lovely devs we have) , sub par battery is what limited its future prospects:crying::crying::crying:
Root the sucker and get a proper O/S.
Ebay for a battery and don't look back.
From what I've seen,most hardware upgrades are accompanied by more bloated "operating systems".
Why?
So they can sell you a new phone that's already out of date when it's released.
That's the way the computer business works.
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well, these thoughs crossed my mind as well.
it has been the same since my last smartphones: is there anything really better than my device? Anything i can really crave for / at least look forward to?
Our edge is performing fine (even battery) so there is no real need. But hey, i want a new toy! (I deserve a new toy?!)
Please dont tell my to be happy with my edge and better invest the money in a holyday
Try an new operating system .... it'll feel like a new phone.
any good link for battery ?thinking of getting anker brand since oem sucks ?
zuz242 said:
well, these thoughs crossed my mind as well.
it has been the same since my last smartphones: is there anything really better than my device? Anything i can really crave for / at least look forward to?
Our edge is performing fine (even battery) so there is no real need. But hey, i want a new toy! (I deserve a new toy?!)
Please dont tell my to be happy with my edge and better invest the money in a holyday
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Well, in that case just get a nexus or a one plus whatever.. atleast with those you can try a bunch of different roms and mods to keep you entertained. Everyone is talking about the Google Pixel now.. but it looks ugly and boring as hell, for me it looks like a cheap Chinese phone with really cheap paint or an HTC from like 6 years ago.. if it wasn't a "google phone" nobody would even look at that thing.
If you get another phone be careful, it seems those days only T-MO is not blocking the bootloader.. get a phone that is confirmed to receive the new OS soon.. the last thing you want is to get a phone and be stuck in the same OS as your current phone for 6 months.
Within the last 10 days i have purchased a Axon 7 and got a LG V20 today. Gonna sell my Note Edge to a friend. I am currently leaning towards the V20 but the Axon 7 is putting up a dam good fight. Either phone would be a worthy upgrade for different reasons, sans the S-pen imo.
Don't see any reason to upgrade. .. maybe I will root. ..but i use skygo frequently...
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Well, in that case just get a nexus or a one plus whatever.. atleast with those you can try a bunch of different roms and mods to keep you entertained. Everyone is talking about the Google Pixel now.. but it looks ugly and boring as hell, for me it looks like a cheap Chinese phone with really cheap paint or an HTC from like 6 years ago.. if it wasn't a "google phone" nobody would even look at that thing.
If you get another phone be careful, it seems those days only T-MO is not blocking the bootloader.. get a phone that is confirmed to receive the new OS soon.. the last thing you want is to get a phone and be stuck in the same OS as your current phone for 6 months.
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T-Mobile still has NEW Note Edge phones at some stores around Atlanta. I am waiting on a warranty replacement for my Note 4, then I might jump to a Note Edge. I just don't feel like keeping a refurbished unit unless it's as good as what I had before. The one that died was in beautiful shape, I kept it in a bumper with a tempered glass screen protector.
I'd keep the Note Edge
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Within the last 10 days i have purchased a Axon 7 and got a LG V20 today. Gonna sell my Note Edge to a friend. I am currently leaning towards the V20 but the Axon 7 is putting up a dam good fight. Either phone would be a worthy upgrade for different reasons, sans the S-pen imo.
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It could be worth something one day, not many made and the curiosity of it could be a collectors item in the future.
I'm thinking of waiting for the Note 8 Edge, it's gunna have QualComm Quick Charge 4.0 and so just 5 minutes of charging will get ya 5 hours of battery life, along with much better battery safety and protection.
Anybody know where I can get a good battery?
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I'm thinking of waiting for the Note 8 Edge, it's gunna have QualComm Quick Charge 4.0 and so just 5 minutes of charging will get ya 5 hours of battery life, along with much better battery safety and protection.
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Did you ever figure out how to put the Camera button back on the edge screen?
rodmc123 said:
I don't see a real reason to move from this phone.. I have not seen any relevant update in the latest smartphones.
Yes, you get a slightly faster processor -in real life usage, insignificant improvement- and a barely upgraded camera.. So unless you are just bored of the phone there isn't something really interesting out there.. The s7 edge? is basically this phone with a smaller form factor and edges that doesn't have any sort of special functionality.
For me, smartphones have been basically the same since the iphone 5s- galaxy s4- lg G2 -note 3 generation .. all the new stuff are just gimmicks and performance in real life barely improves at all, because the things that you can do with a phone are limited by the form factor and the small screen and companies have not been creative enough to deliver software that actually can take advantage of the increase in processing power and ram memory.
This phone had the potential to do a lot more stuff than it actually does.. for example: when you open windows in the browser the tabs should be located in the curved panel so you can switch between them easily (like in a desktop).. sadly companies don't give a sh*t about exploiting the potential of their phones a few months after you bought it.. you will get 1 or two updates that change a little bit the look of the notification bar and icons and that's it.. People should stop buying new phones that doesn't do anything new or better than their current phone. We are basically telling companies that we will buy any crap they release even if it barely have any advantage over a 3 years old phone.
Ridiculous high resolution? you have it (1080p was already crisp enough!)
Good camera? you have it
some curve? you have it
Marshmallow? you have it
Nougat? most note edge have an unlocked bootloader now, so eventually you'll have it
A note 7 edge is like us600 you can get a note edge on ebay for us200! it is ridiculous.
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Well said !.
edo101 said:
Did you ever figure out how to put the Camera button back on the edge screen?
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Nope not yet and IDK what's happening with EHZ Studio who said they were working on making one.
You can message them from their facebook page and ask too to see whats up with it
https://www.facebook.com/EHZStudio/ and https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=EHZ+Studios
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edo101 said:
Anybody know where I can get a good battery?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZeroLemon-G...669122?hash=item1a064a1942:g:4XMAAOSwVL1V-wmO ZeroLemon 9000mah but around xda users have reported problems with some batteries only lasting a few months and then it dying and rapidly discharging after so, it's a real gamble I guess. $59.95
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7200mAh-Ext...221215?hash=item4b0ba9bf9f:g:2eIAAOSwHMJYHaks TOTHL 7200mah, have one myself but can't fairly judge, as I've been using my ZeroLemon all the time, nice two layer case 1 hard plastic back and 1 rubber overlay back, definitely worth the bang for it's buck though. $23.30
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Extende...363235?hash=item280e491863:g:CpMAAOSwZ1lWekYX Black Label Brand 8550mah, don't have one, can't judge, but at the price it'd be worth the gamble, if it really is only 50mah's less than the ZeroLemon's size at half the price. $24.58
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7350mAh-Ext...245439?hash=item2a7045bebf:g:1UQAAOSwOdpXznjt Best4Power 7350mah, unknown again, can't fairly judge. $24.58
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Note-Edge-B...660894?hash=item3f70d0a25e:g:fa4AAOSwj85YRfhm YISHDA 6500mah, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, at this sounding like the more/most realistic reasonable battery capacity for it's size, nice two layer case 1 hard plastic back and 1 rubber overlay back. $44.75
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mugen-Power...hash=item54400a1fe0:m:mTl97i6XR1J83fcek8GleJA Mugen 6000mah, only down side I saw on xda user reviews is the metal kickstand gets hot and it covers up the speaker, hell though a kickstand and who can't go wrong with Mugen??? $89.95
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerBear-S...900748?hash=item46594c90cc:g:iT4AAOSwx2dYDAKR PowerBear 6800mah up and coming new battery star company, I just recently heard of them a month ago or so when I searched for extended Note Edge batteries and they had solid good reviews, nice two layer case 1 hard plastic back and 1 rubber overlay back. $35.99 These same guys also make Note Edge Slim batteries, I'd trust them over anyone if getting a slim battery and never fall for that doubly extended slim size battery capacity, it's a proven lie if not alone by physics, if ya want double or triple the capacity you'll need double or triple the size.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...+note+.TRS0&_nkw=powerbear+note+edge&_sacat=0 All PowerBear Note Edge Batteries and Cases, Slim, Extended, PowerBank Case
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Review Results: ZeroLemon and Mugen tied in 1st place, I'd put ZeroLemon at 2nd for their mess up on the rapid discharge but it's the biggest if ya get lucky on one that ain't defective, then I'd also give Mugen a 2nd place rating cause of their being the highest priced so this ranking it's a fair placement and I'd place PowerBear at a firm, solid and steady 3rd, newcomers always get it the hardest... LoL! The same size as Mugen for the price of Zerolemon(Or less) though! But watch this review super detailed on the Note 4 7500mah PowerBear battery
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZeroLemon-G...669122?hash=item1a064a1942:g:4XMAAOSwVL1V-wmO ZeroLemon
Review Results: ZeroLemon and Mugen tied in 1st place, I'd put ZeroLemon at 2nd for their mess up on the rapid discharge but then I'd also give Mugen a 2nd place rating cause of their high price so this ranking is fair and I'd place PowerBear at a firm and steady 3rd, newcomers always get it the hardest... LoL! The same size as Mugen for the price of Zerolemon(Or less) though! But watch this review super detailed on the Note 4 7500mah PowerBear battery
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Thanks for the exhaustive list. I'll look into it

Just bought it online!

So, after following OP1 from 2014 till now, i am finally going to get my hands on OP6. So excited!
IAmRC1 said:
So, after following OP1 from 2014 till now, i am finally going to get my hands on OP6. So excited!
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I did the same thing a couple of days ago. I ordered the red but this color is back-ordered about 1 week...no big deal.
I have a pixel 2 xl and always buy the google devices from the nexus one. Always wanted to try the OP because of the software. Looking forward to it!
You can be excited, honestly I never had a better all-in-one pack of a smartphone in my hands.
It has some minor disadvantages, but many more awesome things to offer!
Overall best phone I've ever used. Haven't had one complaint. The notch doesn't bother me at all. And the navigation gestures, in place of the navigation bar, are very well executed.
Having owned most flagships over 5 years of many different OEM's I have to say that OnePlus I find most compelling. Having also had the 3T and 5T and perhaps should nhsve waited for the 6T, the red just got me.
Some say it's close to others flagship price and then slate OnePlus for this or that. £519 compared to £860+ is a significant saving in comparison. For this there is obvious things OnePlus has to save on and balance things out properly. I think they do this reasonably well. I say this as dual speakers would have been easy, and some IP even 67 would have been nice.
So no the 6 is not perfect but when you factor in the price and really see what your getting it's very very nice indeed.
1)The performance on the 6 is best in class, it just works and very well.
2)OOS some dislike, I love as it's a stock Android experience with just the right flavouring.
3)Camera (now this can be subjective) but for the price it's great and almost keeps up with higher end devices.
These are a few things that for me make using a device great.
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
dmlv said:
I did the same thing a couple of days ago. I ordered the red but this color is back-ordered about 1 week...no big deal.
I have a pixel 2 xl and always buy the google devices from the nexus one. Always wanted to try the OP because of the software. Looking forward to it!
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Ordered my red Sunday got it Wednesday. On mondya it went backorder I was supped. Lol. Sick color and device. I sold my midnight black to get this one.
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I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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I think you probably need to return it. But a huge fan of the nice but the device is very nice looking and specs and superior.
x111 said:
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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Wow. What did you do to piss off the OnePlus design team. Sounds like they were out to get you!
x111 said:
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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i think you were looking for a flawless phone and op6 is not that. all owners know that ? next time dont get swept up in the hype ?
x111 said:
I'm disappointed with look of my oneplus6,
I bought it only because of software possibilities and flat display and 256gb of storage and snapdragon845.
Oneplus6 is very ugly and poorly designed phone with retarded glass back for zero reason, back of the phone must be high quality plastic as wireless charging coil under it.
phone must not have notch and any bezels, especially when all technologies are available.
I hope next model is going to be better.
sams s9+ could be the choice but it has lower specs, even uglier design, retarded curved display and higher prices on top of it.
And that's it, we do not have any other phones with needed specs and software possibilities.
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well if it dont fit ur eager for design return it get ur money back
then make a design an build it ur self then u get the look u want
i think op6 is a great looking phone
thats why i got it
i woult never ever buy a phone only because of the specs
oneplus
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i think you were looking for a flawless phone and op6 is not that. all owners know that ? next time dont get swept up in the hype ?
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nope, oneplus6 is pretty smooth and has all the software I need for now,
thanks to all devs for their hard work.
it's still very poorly optimized but it is about any other phone on the market, thanks to Google team of software developers with broken hands and mental disorder.
regardless hardware design, oneplus6 is extremely ugly and poorly developed phone.
it has absolutely unnecessary ugly notch and HUGE bezel on front side.
on the back it has retarded glass cover which can easily break.
No wireless charging coil which cost a few dollars more.
No ip68 which cost the same a few dollars more.
no microsd card reader, a few dollars more.
so here we have retarded oneplus seo who cannot think clear or just simply highly disrespect customers.
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nope, oneplus6 is pretty smooth and has all the software I need for now,
thanks to all devs for their hard work.
it's still very poorly optimized but it is about any other phone on the market, thanks to Google team of software developers with broken hands and mental disorder.
regardless hardware design, oneplus6 is extremely ugly and poorly developed phone.
it has absolutely unnecessary ugly notch and HUGE bezel on front side.
on the back it has retarded glass cover which can easily break.
No wireless charging coil which cost a few dollars more.
No ip68 which cost the same a few dollars more.
no microsd card reader, a few dollars more.
so here we have retarded oneplus seo who cannot think clear or just simply highly disrespect customers.
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why dont u just sell the phone an stop complaining about it
an just buy a phone u like an stop all ur it dont have this an it dont look like this
a ton if user love this phone an thats it
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oneplus
nope, oneplus6 is pretty smooth and has all the software I need for now,
thanks to all devs for their hard work.
it's still very poorly optimized but it is about any other phone on the market, thanks to Google team of software developers with broken hands and mental disorder.
regardless hardware design, oneplus6 is extremely ugly and poorly developed phone.
it has absolutely unnecessary ugly notch and HUGE bezel on front side.
on the back it has retarded glass cover which can easily break.
No wireless charging coil which cost a few dollars more.
No ip68 which cost the same a few dollars more.
no microsd card reader, a few dollars more.
so here we have retarded oneplus seo who cannot think clear or just simply highly disrespect customers.
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Dude, I really don't understand you and what u r doing on this op6 forum...

Before pulling the trigger on this device

I'm just about to pull the trigger on this beautiful foldable, the only thing I'm worried about is that I use my device the most for watching movies, youtube and twitch.
That black bars kinda bother me.
The other thing is about the durability over time of the screen because I think it will eventually brake after some years of folds. Am I wrong?
Please help me decide beetween this and Oppo Find X2 pro. (I don't care about the price tag as I want to keep the new device for at least 4 years and enjoy it the most)
About my second choice is because I want to fully enjoy a QHD 120hz display and I'm not worried about the battery life for many reasons.. (I had that device and was perfect for me but I experience some pink tint issues so I asked for a refund)
I don't really like do the lottery and hope for a better screen with Oppo or Oneplus screen.
I hope someone can help me.. thank you in advance,
Alessio
You're going to get black bars because of the screen ratio of the device when unfolded. You get smaller black bars when watching in landscape unfolded, but then the camera hole punch cuts into the video content. In portrait you get bigger bars and smaller content, but the hole punch is within the top black bar.
As for durability, I've read Samsung have tested for a certain number of folding/unfolding which equates to opening the device 100 times a day for 5 years. I can't remember where I read this and can't find anything when Googling.
It's supposed to be rated for 200,000 folds. Check out the Fold 1 Forums and ask folks about durability. The Fold2 is supposed to be a lot better.
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I've had mine for 2 days now. My previous phone was a Galaxy S20 Ultra which I'm now putting up for sale. Before getting the Z Fold 2, I also bought a Surface Duo, used it for a day and hated it, so I returned it.
It has been a learning curve with the Z Fold 2 because it's such a different device. Still not sure I love it but it's definitely growing on me. The weirdest thing was getting used to the small cover screen but I am now used to that.
I will say that the hardware is fantastic although it is a more fragile phone because of the folding screen and lack of water and dust proofing.
I don't think I'm going to have issues with the screen as long as I don't fold with something in it or press it too hard. The black bars don't bother me - that's just a result of the screen having such odd aspect ratio. The screen is a beauty. I still can't believe Samsung pulled this off. Yes the crease is there but really not an issue.
The only other issue I have with it is how slick it is since my case hasn't arrived yet but I expect that to not be an issue with a case.
I think if you decide to go for this phone, you'll like it a lot as long as you are willing to go through the learning curve of the new form factor. Worst case scenario you can always return it for a refund.
I saw it as a brilliant yet highly flawed device when I got it. Now I cant use a regular phone anymore, they're completely ruined for me. I would have preferred the device be wider because I still don't like the front screen to this day and a little wider would be all it takes to fix it. That inner screen though, shes a beauty. The internet is so much easier to browse in that format, games look fantastic, videos are unfortunately not as good as they could be thanks to the idiotic placement of the inner camera. Yeah, I know why the decided to put it there and I disagree with the decision. This phone is all about that screen and the stupid placement makes videos smaller than they should be or puts a hole in them. Neither should have been happening because it hurts the phones best attribute. As I said; flawed. I cant however go back, regular phones seem ridiculously limiting now.
I upgraded from the OG Fold and love the 2, Marked improvement all over.
The hinge is also a lot stiffer with the added functionality in the Fold 2
Watching content doesn't bother me, you get used to the black bars and it's still a much bigger viewing area than a regular phone.
My only concern is you wanting to keep it for 4 years, this is obviously new technology so no one is going to be able to say whether it can last for that length of time. I had the fold one near 9 months and never had 1 issue with it, no issues with the screen or folding.
I go with a Note. They will last 4 years and are dust/water sealed, add a good case and you're good to go.
If you charge the battery wisely (40-65% charges) you may get 4 years out of it too.
The 10+ is a proven performer and comes loaded with Pie if you prefer that OS as I do. It's got 2 OS upgrades so it should take it to 11 at least.
The 20U may have some minor issues but it seems like a solid Note.
Both support massive SD cards and are fun, fast, responsive machines with drop dead gorgeous displays.
Samsung has over extended its self both technically and financially on the Fold devices I think to spite all the glowing reviews.
Browse the forums of other current Samsung models here to get a better idea of just how small the niche is for this device. Its novelty alone will make it harder to get online tech support for. Samsung online/phone support sucks; some of the worst I ever experienced.
I blew off upgrading to the 20U because Samsung didn't give me anymore bang for the buck than my 10+.
In addition to that was Android Q with its scope storage is a performance hit not seen with Pie. It will also render legacy apks I use a lot most likely unusable.
If the Notes don't provide enough real estate, the Fold 2 be your only choice for now. The next generation should be better.
Lol, Samsung claims the conformal coating on the Fold 2's PCBs are it's waterproofing. Pure hogwash; all the switches and micro connectors are vulnerable.
I would never even consider a smartphone without water and dust sealing. Even my ancient first flip phone had them.
10 years latter it's still functional...
blackhawk said:
I go with a Note. They will last 4 years and are dust/water sealed, add a good case and you're good to go.
If you charge the battery wisely (40-65% charges) you may get 4 years out of it too.
The 10+ is a proven performer and comes loaded with Pie if you prefer that OS as I do. It's got 2 OS upgrades so it should take it to 11 at least.
The 20U may have some minor issues but it seems like a solid Note.
Both support massive SD cards and are fun, fast, responsive machines with drop dead gorgeous displays.
Samsung has over extended its self both technically and financially on the Fold devices I think to spite all the glowing reviews.
Browse the forums of other current Samsung models here to get a better idea of just how small the niche is for this device. Its novelty alone will make it harder to get online tech support for. Samsung online/phone support sucks; some of the worst I ever experienced.
I blew off upgrading to the 20U because Samsung didn't give me anymore bang for the buck than my 10+.
In addition to that was Android Q with its scope storage is a performance hit not seen with Pie. It will also render legacy apks I use a lot most likely unusable.
If the Notes don't provide enough real estate, the Fold 2 be your only choice for now. The next generation should be better.
Lol, Samsung claims the conformal coating on the Fold 2's PCBs are it's waterproofing. Pure hogwash; all the switches and micro connectors are vulnerable.
I would never even consider a smartphone without water and dust sealing. Even my ancient first flip phone had them.
10 years latter it's still functional...
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Do you actually own a Z Fold 2?
The render legacy apks unusable was laughable, that's for sure. He does not own the phone, he's been here trolling for quite a while.
krabman said:
The render legacy apks unusable was laughable, that's for sure. He does not own the phone, he's been here trolling for quite a while.
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Q renders (or soon will) many legacy apks unusable not the Z. Not so funny if you're running Q...
It's a prototype. I build prototype$ not buy them.
I am however fascinated in this product in more ways than one... Samsung gro$$ly overextended themselves on this product line and the game they're playing isn't low poker.
TheMountain said:
I'm just about to pull the trigger on this beautiful foldable, the only thing I'm worried about is that I use my device the most for watching movies, youtube and twitch.
That black bars kinda bother me.
The other thing is about the durability over time of the screen because I think it will eventually brake after some years of folds. Am I wrong?
Please help me decide beetween this and Oppo Find X2 pro. (I don't care about the price tag as I want to keep the new device for at least 4 years and enjoy it the most)
About my second choice is because I want to fully enjoy a QHD 120hz display and I'm not worried about the battery life for many reasons.. (I had that device and was perfect for me but I experience some pink tint issues so I asked for a refund)
I don't really like do the lottery and hope for a better screen with Oppo or Oneplus screen.
I hope someone can help me.. thank you in advance,
Alessio
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Sorry i'm late to the party!!! So i came from a Find X2 pro to the Fold 2 and honestly i love the fold 2. I work at a Machine shop and my fold 2 has been perfectly fine (im not saying its the most durable phone on earth , but it definetly feels like its gonna be just fine). if there were any major drawbacks id say the lack of cases that protect the hinge spine , and the crappy rubber inner screen protector (which has been removed),and the cameras (comparing to the Find x2 pro directly) .
overall the black bars while watching youtube i can live with cause it has so much real estate on the inner screen that it quickly became something i dont notice anymore.
The cameras are good not the best but good, the find x2 pro camera was fantastic.
My main issue has to be cases, i currently have 6 cases (araree bonnet wallet,spigen thin fit,gkk thin fit,2xchinese "leather back" cases,ringke clear) and the Araree bonnet is the only one that protects the spine yet its awkward to use when folded(back of case digs into finger when holding 1 handed and cover hanging is a minor annoyance) when open the case is ok. all the other cases yeild the same result , when closed they protect the front & back but leave the spine exposed when folded. so its a catch 22 in the case department.
I also applied a Dbrand teardown skin "ultramatte" and its awesome cause the black back of the phone was a fingerprint haven.
So im sure ive rambled enough haha, but i would honestly say overall even with the drawbacks id take the fold 2 over the find x2 pro if i had to choose again.
also i ordered the Spigen Tough Armor (which seems like it will be a good case protecting the spine/hinge and not being "in the way"when used folded like the araree bonnet)
Either way both phones are really good im sure you'll be happy with either
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The render legacy apks unusable was laughable, that's for sure. He does not own the phone, he's been here trolling for quite a while.
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Sounds about right. He doesn't own one and is here just trolling away.
I'm not sure what the point of going to a sub section and complaining about a phone you don't own and aren't going to buy is but it happens often enough here. I completely understand the posts where people say they are disappointed about a device as it comes out, are moving elsewhere, and the why. These posts can be useful to those on the fence. To go back to this device I still think while flawed it's an amazing piece of kit and more than any other phone I've ever encountered; one you really have to use to fully get. It's unfortunate the entry fee is so steep as to make test driving one unreasonable for most.
Honestly I have had every note that Samsung has made and my secondary device is a note 20. I am now spoiled I have had my zfold 2 a month and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again. I'm a fold loyalist from now on
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Honestly I have had every note that Samsung has made and my secondary device is a note 20. I am now spoiled I have had my zfold 2 a month and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again. I'm a fold loyalist from now on
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Well said... I had the fold1 and now the fold2 and can't imagine going back to a "normal" mobile phone again... regardless of brand.
randy2 said:
Honestly I have had every note that Samsung has made and my secondary device is a note 20. I am now spoiled I have had my zfold 2 a month and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again. I'm a fold loyalist from now on
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I'm a Note loyalist but I've been playing with the ZF2 at Best Buy and am in love with it. Can't decide if I can give up my SPen though.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I'm a Note loyalist but I've been playing with the ZF2 at Best Buy and am in love with it. Can't decide if I can give up my SPen though.
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Next year, the fold 3 is replacing the note line and getting a Spend.
DJW35 said:
Next year, the fold 3 is replacing the note line and getting a Spend.
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Yeah, I knew that was the latest rumor. It's one reason I'm considering the Fold 2 now. Might as well grab it, because it will have a higher trade in value next year when I get the Fold 3, LOL.
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Next year, the fold 3 is replacing the note line and getting a Spend.
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So they are saying.
So far the durability has been lacking and the price is higher than I pay for a laptop.
The Fold sales have been dismal thus far... if that tells you something.
Sparkling reviews, all of them.
What's wrong with this picture?
I don't share Samsung's enthusiasm and they grossly overextended themselves trying to develop this technology. Their other expensive phones suffered as a result and during a worldwide economic downturn at that. Brilliant.
The Edsel was a similar money sinkhole released during a recession. That ended well.
I call snake eyes.
Break away in a wide track Pontiac GTO... :laugh:
* And maybe tri-fold phone. Oh my... hold on to your hats:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mspowe...old-smartphone-bandwagon-with-new-patent/amp/
Apple sounds amused, maybe nervous:
https://www.patentlyapple.com/paten...-continue-to-work-on-a-next-gen-tri-fold.html
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So far the durability has been lacking and the price is higher than I pay for a laptop.
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Without a shadow of a doubt the Fold 2 is the best mobile device i have owned in over 20 years of owning a mobile. Durability is perfectly fine (for me), battery life is excellent, (i get 9hrs SOT with the 90hz app) and the main foldable screen is amazing with or without the factory fitted film protector.
The front screen is still slightly too narrow to make the device 100% perfect but perhaps next years Fold3 will resolve that outstanding issue...
I can't imagine ever going back to a "normal" candy bar style phone ever again.
Yes foldable devices are currently hugely expensive but as an early adopter I accept i have chosen to pay more than the average consumer would. Hopefully (!) In a couple of years Samsung will be able to sell a fold5 for 100 or 200 £$€ more than the equivalent S23 Ultra price.

A broken frame...

For those interested, an Xperia 5 ii cannot handle being dropped from a pocket and be trapped between the car and the door.
The frame is bent maybe 5mm and the back/front glass has separated from the frame. The front class is concave.
However, it amazingly still works. (It had an airbag case and a tempered glass screen protector.
I just must ask: Any chance of repairing it?
Not so many alternatives for me right now. The Pixel 5a would be a good fit if it was available outside USA/Japan. The 5ii is out of stock at many sellers and $150 more expensive when I purchased where available and the 5 iii is not available and expected to be much more expensive. Maybe a Asus Zenfone 8 instead.
That's a hard hit.
Replace frame. The display and/or may fail once the pressure is relieved... hopefully not.
Also replace the battery to be on the safe side.
Inspect once apart for any additional damage.
Bend it back?
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Bend it back?
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blackhawk said:
That's a hard hit.
Replace frame. The display and/or may fail once the pressure is relieved... hopefully not.
Also replace the battery to be on the safe side.
Inspect once apart for any additional damage.
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If I start to tinker with the 5ii (or use it normally), it will break it. I have found few suppliers of parts (the Sony repair links only works for companies). Only the screen was over half the price I paid for it, did not find a frame.
New 5ii are hard to find and are like 40% more expensive then when I bought the phone in April. I got a OnePlus 8T for 2/3 of what I paid for the 5ii. (I did not wait for the 5iii introduction offers, seem like the right choice.)
There are good and bad with both phones, the expected shortcomings with the 8T were not as bad as I expected (phone width, optical fingerprint, no tele, no camera button), other are better (display low light camera, 3 more Android updates). I prefer the 5ii in general though, especially when in bed the weight is annoying.
I will keep the 5ii as a memory in use the 15 min every morning when I charge the 8T while eating breakfast.
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If I start to tinker with the 5ii (or use it normally), it will break it. I have found few suppliers of parts (the Sony repair links only works for companies). Only the screen was over half the price I paid for it, did not find a frame.
New 5ii are hard to find and are like 40% more expensive then when I bought the phone in April. I got a OnePlus 8T for 2/3 of what I paid for the 5ii. (I did not wait for the 5iii introduction offers, seem like the right choice.)
There are good and bad with both phones, the expected shortcomings with the 8T were not as bad as I expected (phone width, optical fingerprint, no tele, no camera button), other are better (display low light camera, 3 more Android updates). I prefer the 5ii in general though, especially when in bed the weight is annoying.
I will keep the 5ii as a memory in use the 15 min every morning when I charge the 8T while eating breakfast.
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If search around long enough you can find a good vendor and a new phone you want.
I ended paying $800 for a new N10+ a week ago.
I should had pulled the trigger 3 or 4 months ago and gotten one for at least a hundred less.
Bad times are coming and people know it.
2021 was a bust year for phones and Android.
If there's a particular model you want, try to get it new. They can sit on the shelf for a year or more.
Companies specialize in buying lots of unsold phones, still factory sealed. In my case it was exactly what I wanted. I now have 2 10+'s I can use interchangeably, a backup. I absolutely wuv this phone even after 2 years it's still just plain to fun to use. I don't expect much out of Samsung in 2022 and Android is in a flat spin too.
So it will be 2023-24 until I buy another flagship phone... if these jokers can get their assets together.
In any event I'm good probably well into 2025 with a few batteries. I just bypassed the bs
gerhardo said:
For those interested, an Xperia 5 ii cannot handle being dropped from a pocket and be trapped between the car and the door.
The frame is bent maybe 5mm and the back/front glass has separated from the frame. The front class is concave.
However, it amazingly still works. (It had an airbag case and a tempered glass screen protector.
I just must ask: Any chance of repairing it?
Not so many alternatives for me right now. The Pixel 5a would be a good fit if it was available outside USA/Japan. The 5ii is out of stock at many sellers and $150 more expensive when I purchased where available and the 5 iii is not available and expected to be much more expensive. Maybe a Asus Zenfone 8 instead.
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Howd this happen? You close the door on your phone?

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