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If anyone has, please share your views. I for one don't see how the 6P is better other than the fact that it has a terrific camera. But the other things are pretty much what we get on the OPO. Isn't it?
Hi there, I immediately jumped ship once the 6P came out, and have been loving it.
I don't use the camera much, but there are 4 things that have stood out since getting it:
1. It feels sooooo much better in the hand.
It's slightly wider, but not really that noticeable. The metal feels much better than the sandpaper of the 64 gig OPO, and the device is just well constructed all around.
2. All the fingerprints!
The fingerprint reader is freaking great! At my work we have to encrypt and lock our phones if we want to connect to the exchange server, and having the fingerprint reader means I am not constantly typing in my pin code, and that reader is FAST.
3. NO FINGERPRINTS!
Seriously, I don't know how this miracle was pulled off, but when I had the OPO, I was cleaning it all the damn time, and it would immediately get dirty again. I swear I don't have any gloves made of pizza, but I feel like that wouldn't even be a big deal on the 6P. Whatever mixture of Olympian sweat and unicorn tears they coated this glorious screen with works like a freaking charm, because I rarely have to consciously clean the screen. Most of the time, just being pocketbound is enough.
4. It works as intended.
This might not affect everyone, but for the two OPO's I ordered, (one for me, one for a friend) both had connectivity problems fairly regularly. It took a lot of flashing and tinkering to get mine semi-stable on a rom I liked, and his is still borked because the flashing process on his phone didn't go super smoothly.
What I miss:
Double tap to wake.
That is all.
@ak for sure ^^
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@ak for sure ^^
Sent from my bacon!!!!!
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AK went to the 6P so I don't see how that applies ? unless you stick to last CM12.1 nightly
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I'm hoping the rumors about the 6P on T-Mobile EIP are true
I did, after a few weeks with it I have to say that there is a bit of buyers remorse, but not enough for me to send it back. My primary issue with the opo was that it has a good camera not a great camera. I take a lot of photos and wanted a better camera. I did in fact get what I wanted.
The feel, its nice but its super slippery and I have to say that even though it's got a metal shell it doesn't feel very tough, I am treating it much more gingerly than I did my opo, its obvious that these phones have a bending issue. Did I mention its slippery?
The OS is nice, but I was already used to it thanks to sultan and his cm13.
I have a very good fingerprint reader, but I've been a big user of smartlock so it doesn't get used very much and Android pay is still out of reach since it won't work on a rooted phone.
Performance is good, but again I don't notice much difference day to day other than when the sucker gets really hot and slows down. It does cool down really fast.
I spend a lot of time in a car and have to use the USB a to C converter, so I don't get quick charge.
It can doze for days, but with regular use it dies fasted than my opo did.
The audio sucks without viper4android.
My happiest surprise is that it works flawlessly with my Acura hands free(I have had no phones that have) but the a2dp has anomalies.
The screen is beautiful, but not than much more beautiful than my adjusted opo screen.
There are no off screen gestures, it doesn't sound like a big deal but it is, you can enable double tap to wake but you have to do it every time you restart.
I have T-Mobile lte connection issues I didn't have with my opo. Not bad, but annoying.
The theming engine doesn't work for me.
When I say "that much more" what I mean is hundreds of dollars more. The phone would be easier to justify if it was at least $100 less.
Oneplus reset my expectations...
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I'm hoping the rumors about the 6P on T-Mobile EIP are true
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Huahwei will finance it for you, but the interest might be a bit high.
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I'm tossing it up, I only got my One 12 months ago, and I have enough money right now to buy basically anything that I want outright, but I'm thinking I might just wait until the OnePlus 3. I worked out that I can either buy a OnePlus device every year (if they are similarly priced), or buy another flagship type every 2 years, and I'm thinking that the 12 month option is going to work better for me and I've never really had any problems with my One.
From what I've seen of the battery life with the 6P, I'm not sold on it. Plus I feel as though the SD810 is not the greatest chip in the world. I'm going to wait for the SD820 devices to come out. To me, the 6P just seems like an incremental upgrade over the OPO, and I can't justify it at the price point they are selling it at.
For me a bumb from the OPO to the 6P is to small that i would spend 500€ on it + I don't support Huawei anyway + Fingerprint can get bypassed easy by a 14 year old nerd ~
I switched and will never buy another one plus product again after my one year experience owning that pos.
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It's too expensive for my current budget
Got my nexus 6p a few days ago.. Let me tell you, this is probably the best phone I've ever had. The screen, build quality, overall phone responsiveness is A1 , 10/10! I've had the iPhone 6 plus, Note 5 and this nexus 6p definitely beats both in almost every way.
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Thinking about making the switch myself.
Basically, there are some stuffs that hold me to switch to a so expensive phone.
First of all, I relized that my opo will never die: the community is really active, we are talking of a two years old phone. I'm really happy to know that I can find almost everything I need for my phone. That not mean that I think that the 6P community is smaller (AK we miss you), but it's not the 'nexus' name on the back that will change my mind.
And about the performance, well, my opo still do what should do in almost every conditions.
And the battery life is awesome, really, I hate to arrive at home and run to plug my phone, as I hate to save battery while I'm out and avoid to use the phone cause I'm scared it die before I can plug it.
And the sandstone fell on the back, it's pure love for me.
The 6P is a really really great phone, great camera, great performance with MM, but it cost about twice what i paid my opo. Moreover, I don't feel the need of a SD810 at all, I would definetively wait for something with the new quad 820.
Maybe the new Nexus (I always loved Htc phones, so I really hope in something by them for the new Nexus) or meybe the future OP3.
I think that my opo will survive till and will give me a lot of fun till its moment arrive, maybe the next november
Don't mind me, I'm just cyberstalking this thread. Pay no attention to the guy in the corner
I bought a N6P from google play store but returned it (under Googles ridiculously generous return policy) and went back to my OPO. I don't think the build quality of the N6 was very good. It is big and slippery and yet not very robust, unlike the OPO. I strongly disagree with the poster above who prefers the N6P back. It is too slippery - the OPO "sandpaper" is MUCH better for these big phones. Also, the N6P price in Australia is outrageous given it is just another Chinese phone. The OPO running Android 6 - CM13 (Sultan) is still near a state-of-the-art phone.
I like this phone but I don't know if i like it enough to have it for 2 years. With the iphone 8 and the Samsung s8 or note 8 coming next year makes me want to wait. I don't like how it doesn't have wireless charging and it doesn't have the camera stabilizer for taking pics, also no water protection. So with the people that have this phone please tell me what you think of it. Thabks all.
Wait. You are setting yourself up for a disappointment with all that you see wrong with the device before even buying it. And the price will drive you nuts with those shortcomings you find objectionable.
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I like this phone but I don't know if i like it enough to have it for 2 years. With the iphone 8 and the Samsung s8 or note 8 coming next year makes me want to wait. I don't like how it doesn't have wireless charging and it doesn't have the camera stabilizer for taking pics, also no water protection. So with the people that have this phone please tell me what you think of it. Thabks all.
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Here's a suggestion - make up your own mind instead of relying on other people. Not everyone has to like the same things for the same reasons.
Come on guys, I think you're being unfair. All of us who have bought the phone ought to write a review every time somebody is thinking about buying one and can't be bothered to read the comments and reviews already posted here and on youtube.
Realistically every phone is going to have certain shortcomings, and to me the Pixel looks like first-generation hardware with a top-tier asking price. After seeing the Pixel, I decided to buy the iPhone 7. That's when I found out Apple doesn't provide anything like an LED or ambient display to indicate waiting notifications. That one issue is worth the cost of a return for me, but apparently it's also acceptable to the people that bought the billion previous iPhones. The Pixel checks a lot of items off my interest list, and it misses some. Like other phones available today and in the future, there are areas where the Pixel does and does not compare favorably with other options. Ultimately I think it cost me $35 to find out that an LED notification is more personally important than waterproofing, image stabilization, or wireless charging.
I've been with Android since the HTC Droid Eris. Things are advancing so rapidly now, it is worse that trying to buy an up to date PC back in the day...by the time you got home someone had the specs of your brand new toy beat. It seems even worse now with smartphones. I find myself getting ever closer to a phone that tick all my wants. However, when that starts happening, everybody will keep the phone they have for two years instead of getting a new one every year. That won't help the sales plateau smartphones seem to be in. Today you have to be prepared for the phone you buy today to be one tier behind in a very short time. Just the way it is.
I have to say my new Pixel is the best smartphone I have ever used and it is not even close. I retired an LG V10. The V10 is about as far behind the Pixel as the Galaxy S4 was behind the V10. No it is not perfect, but no other top tier phone today is perfect either. If the Pixel is judged to be too expensive, then so are the rest of the top tier brands.
I'd say get it. Be careful with it and return it if you have some issue.
I have read tons or reviews but here is the thing, those reviews are a lot of the time done by people that wrote for a living and not the average person that is going to use this phone. Most of the time they write these reviews because they get all new phones shipped to them for free and not the average person that gets a new phone once every 2 years. I guess in all, I know what the reviews say and the YouTube videos look like but I wanted to know what the average person says about the phone. Not the expert says about the phone. Thabks.
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I like this phone but I don't know if i like it enough to have it for 2 years. With the iphone 8 and the Samsung s8 or note 8 coming next year makes me want to wait. I don't like how it doesn't have wireless charging and it doesn't have the camera stabilizer for taking pics, also no water protection. So with the people that have this phone please tell me what you think of it. Thabks all.
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Youre gonna wait every 6 months... Pixel 2 next year..
Personally I hold out until the next phone I buy has significant upgrades..
I went from Nexus 4 to Nexus 6 to LG G4 to LG v10 (I fell for the 2nd screen gimmick, but it wasnt anything more over the G4), skipped LG G5, skipped Nexus 6p, considered One plus 3, but Pixel Xl filled a few of the most important boxes for me.
Hype, bandwagon, fantastic screen that turns iPhone/samsung owner's heads, accessories, accessories, super active community, fast, fast loading camera ready to take a picture, unlimited cloud, build quality, looks and balance.
I'm hoping assistant, gps and navigation will work well as I use them a lot and most phones have worked ok, but fail..
Im still waiting on my preorder....
I am happy with T-Mobile giving a 325 dollar credit for this phone, so it's totally worth it for me.
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Yup it is missing those, but if these bother you then don't buy it because it is an expensive phone and if you are not 100% satisfied with what it is offering then yep wait for the next big thing.
For me currently this is the best phone out there satisfying all my needs and desires, and also it was time to replace my aging Nexus 5. Loving the pixel
I'm in a boat whether to buy this phone or not.. Between pixel, oneplus 3 or xiaomi mi note 2. Not sure how roms will be for the pixel, so will wait and see how that pans out and reviews for the MI note 2
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Yup it is missing those, but if these bother you then don't buy it because it is an expensive phone and if you are not 100% satisfied with what it is offering then yep wait for the next big thing.
For me currently this is the best phone out there satisfying all my needs and desires, and also it was time to replace my aging Nexus 5. Loving the pixel
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See that is a worthwhile upgrade. I went to an n5x so the pixel is not worth the cost. It just depends on where you're coming from.
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I am happy with T-Mobile giving a 325 dollar credit for this phone, so it's totally worth it for me.
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Same here! I was going to pass on the Pixel because of the price but with that promo, I ordered two for me and the missus. A Pixel for $325 is an amazing deal!
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See that is a worthwhile upgrade. I went to an n5x so the pixel is not worth the cost. It just depends on where you're coming from.
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Exactly what I thought, I almost purchased a 5x but decided to wait for the next nexus, didn't know that time that it was going to be a pixel, but yeah for me it is worth the upgrade. If i had purchased the 5x then I am pretty sure I would be in the same boat as you, lol for me even the freakin fingerprint scanner is an upgrade
To the op and others undecided. I think some have already covered it but I'll put in my $.02
I'm different than most that posted here. I like to buy/sell when new devices come out. There is no perfect phone for anyone. I also am not biased towards android or apple.
I have recently used moto x, moto x 2nd gen, htc m9, sony z3 compact, oneplus3, iphones 5s,6,6s,&7/7+
I'm currently using the oneplus 3, iphone 7, and just got the pixel yesterday.
All these phones have there advantages/disadvantages as previously mentioned.
There will always be something better around the corner. If you keep waiting, you'll be waiting forever. If you need a phone right now, best options in my opinion are the pixel, oneplus3, iphone 6s or 7, but that depends on your needs too. If you don't need a phone right now wait it out till you do.
Phones are somewhat similar to pcs right now. They are not really getting any faster for typical use, just better cameras typically and a few different options in the os.
The oneplus 3 imo is the best 5.5" android phone for the money. It's almost perfect for my needs but comes with some minor bugs and not the best speakers for music. $400, can't be beat by any phone and is the fastest android phone out i believe. It is faster than the pixel.
Pixel is a great phone. Fingerprint sensor location takes some getting used to. Android 7 and pixel launcher are nice but come with some bugs and lack of options. Phone can be laggy at times during normal use. Great deal if you get in on the t-mobile promo. I don't like the big top/bottom bezels but i can live with it. With future updates, this could be my new close to perfect phone.
IPhone 7 is nice but overhyped. Iphone 6s is just as good. Iphone 7 speakers and camera slightly better, maybe slightly faster but nothing like Apple claims.
You need to decide what you really want then pick the phone that best fits for the price you want yo pay.
If you want a cheap avg android phone, go with the oneplus 3. It's a great price and competes with the high end phones extremely well. Otherwise pony up. There are limited choices for a decent priced phone anymore and definitely typically come with drawbacks that I'm not willing to sacrifice.
Best of luck
I currently have the Samsung s7. I'm on Verizon. I ordered a pixel from Google because with the financing you can pay it off early. On Verizon Device payment plan you have to pay monthly or just pay the entire phone off at once.
I've been reading reviews and got impatient and ordered the phone from Verizon. I saw were you could get 20% off with the Save20 code but it didn't work for me because of my corporate discount. However, Verizon is giving trade in value for any phone. If I traded in my S7 I could get $300 but I want to keep it in case I don't like the pixel.
What I did was buy an iPhone 4 from ebay for $30. Verizon gave me a $200 credit for that phone and I ordered the 128gb pixel. So I got that phone for 750-200+30=$580. I think I paid $650 for my Nexus 6P 64gb last year.
Options that Verizon and tmobile offer make it a no brainer to get this phone. I think if Google had released this phone to all carriers or when they do you will have many people buying and loving this phone. That is the problem. Not what the phone is missing it's because people don't want to pull the trigger because of the price.
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Come on guys, I think you're being unfair. All of us who have bought the phone ought to write a review every time somebody is thinking about buying one and can't be bothered to read the comments and reviews already posted here and on youtube.
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LOL. Thanks mate, you made my day!
I'm am average user but love pure android and had nearly all the Nexus phones and coming from the 6p to the pixel, have to say love it. Great camera, faster better in low light, phone is bonkers quick with excellent battery life and very crisp clear screen. Also easier to handle than my 6p. Very expensive but worth it? Just about.
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So just picked it up yesterday. Been using it and decided to give it a run. Phone has not been rebooted since I powered it on.
Phone has it's faults but preforming pretty well. Not disappointed by how it runs. Just other stuff.
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So just picked it up yesterday. Been using it and decided to give it a run. Phone has not been rebooted since I powered it on.
Phone has it's faults but preforming pretty well. Not disappointed by how it runs. Just other stuff.
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Out of curiosity, what are you disappointed with?
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Out of curiosity, what are you disappointed with?
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Finish on the phone. The bumper after a few hours put about 6 scratches on it. The finish is way way to soft and thin. Under a microscope it's paint not anodized. Extremely poor finish.
15w charger huge step back.
Microscopic battery. Only good thing about being thinner is the old z force bumper fits and helps get rid of that little lip that the turbo battery pack as at the edge. So the feel is closer to the Incipio.
Shatter shield is fused to the display. However it looks like Moto put a stock screen protector on it. Under a microscope I can see a thing layer over the display looking around finger print reader and mic hole. Can't confirm it but I will try it if I ever have to send this in for warranty work.
3gb of ram. At this price point this phone to make up for the tiny battery should come with a battery mod or at least 6gb of ram. Something there is no excuse for that tiny battery.
Camera. WTF no ois? I need to test more to see but I tossed on the modded pixel camera app and I hope the camera is not that bad. But no ois is pretty fail.
Phone worth retail price? God no. I got it for $200 off and a free projector. So since I'm already deep into the Moto mods that's a good deal. But even that deal is a hard sell unless your like me with 4 batterys,. Speaker mod, car dock ect.
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Finish on the phone. The bumper after a few hours put about 6 scratches on it. The finish is way way to soft and thin. Under a microscope it's paint not anodized. Extremely poor finish.
15w charger huge step back.
Microscopic battery. Only good thing about being thinner is the old z force bumper fits and helps get rid of that little lip that the turbo battery pack as at the edge. So the feel is closer to the Incipio.
Shatter shield is fused to the display. However it looks like Moto put a stock screen protector on it. Under a microscope I can see a thing layer over the display looking around finger print reader and mic hole. Can't confirm it but I will try it if I ever have to send this in for warranty work.
3gb of ram. At this price point this phone to make up for the tiny battery should come with a battery mod or at least 6gb of ram. Something there is no excuse for that tiny battery.
Camera. WTF no ois? I need to test more to see but I tossed on the modded pixel camera app and I hope the camera is not that bad. But no ois is pretty fail.
Phone worth retail price? God no. I got it for $200 off and a free projector. So since I'm already deep into the Moto mods that's a good deal. But even that deal is a hard sell unless your like me with 4 batterys,. Speaker mod, car dock ect.
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Interesting about the finish. I've had 3 of these phones, the first was Att, then the T-Mobile and now a Sprint model. Judging by your 4g icon I'm assuming you are on Verizon (all carriers use a different LTE icon) and that's the only one I haven't handled. Despite being the same phone each one I've had has varied in terms of fit and finish.
The Att had the plasticy touch issue right around the fingerprint scanner, but otherwise was solid, probably the best. The T-Mobile had what looked like little chips missing around the bezel after only a day of use and the sim/SD slot was not flush, it was too recessed. The Sprint model I'm using now is pretty good, but the buttons have a little up and down play the others did not. Point being, Motorola has been incredibly inconsistent with their quality control.
My wife has the original z force on Verizon, and while that phone does feel more substantial naked, I can understand Motorola's decision to go thinner and lighter. Her phone becomes a brick with just about any mod (we have the JBL, style shell and Moto power pack)
As far as the battery is concerned, I will never complain about having a bigger battery. That said, I am happy with the battery life of this phone. The first couple days on each model were the worst, but they eventually settle in. I typically get through a full day with over %50 left and if I'm ever low I have a charger in my car and the power pack in the glove box.
I would have to agree on the price, with it's shortcomings this phone is not worth the MSRP (but I don't think any phone is) However, if you can get it for a good deal (I bought the T-Mobile model outright for $550 and sold it for about the same, and I'm paying $16.50/month for 24 months with Sprint. I paid Att's ridiculous asking price of $809 plus sales tax like a dummy, after I found out the bootloader was locked I returned it the next day) it's an awesome phone. While I do wish it had a headphone jack, notification led and better water resistance, these are all trade offs for a shatterproof screen. I knew that coming in and weighed the pros and cons. After having my last phone crack, shatter shield is worth the trade to me.
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Interesting about the finish. I've had 3 of these phones, the first was Att, then the T-Mobile and now a Sprint model. Judging by your 4g icon I'm assuming you are on Verizon (all carriers use a different LTE icon) and that's the only one I haven't handled. Despite being the same phone each one I've had has varied in terms of fit and finish.
The Att had the plasticy touch issue right around the fingerprint scanner, but otherwise was solid, probably the best. The T-Mobile had what looked like little chips missing around the bezel after only a day of use and the sim/SD slot was not flush, it was too recessed. The Sprint model I'm using now is pretty good, but the buttons have a little up and down play the others did not. Point being, Motorola has been incredibly inconsistent with their quality control.
My wife has the original z force on Verizon, and while that phone does feel more substantial naked, I can understand Motorola's decision to go thinner and lighter. Her phone becomes a brick with just about any mod (we have the JBL, style shell and Moto power pack)
As far as the battery is concerned, I will never complain about having a bigger battery. That said, I am happy with the battery life of this phone. The first couple days on each model were the worst, but they eventually settle in. I typically get through a full day with over %50 left and if I'm ever low I have a charger in my car and the power pack in the glove box.
I would have to agree on the price, with it's shortcomings this phone is not worth the MSRP (but I don't think any phone is) However, if you can get it for a good deal (I bought the T-Mobile model outright for $550 and sold it for about the same, and I'm paying $16.50/month for 24 months with Sprint. I paid Att's ridiculous asking price of $809 plus sales tax like a dummy, after I found out the bootloader was locked I returned it the next day) it's an awesome phone. While I do wish it had a headphone jack, notification led and better water resistance, these are all trade offs for a shatterproof screen. I knew that coming in and weighed the pros and cons. After having my last phone crack, shatter shield is worth the trade to me.
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i can definitely say that the camera needs alittle work with the black and white lense....
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Finish on the phone. The bumper after a few hours put about 6 scratches on it. The finish is way way to soft and thin. Under a microscope it's paint not anodized. Extremely poor finish.
15w charger huge step back.
Microscopic battery. Only good thing about being thinner is the old z force bumper fits and helps get rid of that little lip that the turbo battery pack as at the edge. So the feel is closer to the Incipio.
Shatter shield is fused to the display. However it looks like Moto put a stock screen protector on it. Under a microscope I can see a thing layer over the display looking around finger print reader and mic hole. Can't confirm it but I will try it if I ever have to send this in for warranty work.
3gb of ram. At this price point this phone to make up for the tiny battery should come with a battery mod or at least 6gb of ram. Something there is no excuse for that tiny battery.
Camera. WTF no ois? I need to test more to see but I tossed on the modded pixel camera app and I hope the camera is not that bad. But no ois is pretty fail.
Phone worth retail price? God no. I got it for $200 off and a free projector. So since I'm already deep into the Moto mods that's a good deal. But even that deal is a hard sell unless your like me with 4 batterys,. Speaker mod, car dock ect.
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It has 4GB of ram not 3. Also the international variant has a 6gb ram.
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So just picked it up yesterday. Been using it and decided to give it a run. Phone has not been rebooted since I powered it on.
Phone has it's faults but preforming pretty well. Not disappointed by how it runs. Just other stuff.
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It's a pretty fast device, but I've hit 4GB of RAM during heavy browsing sessions (160+ tabs open in Firefox Nightly. I'm a HEAVY multitasker) FTR, my HTC U11 with 6GB RAM doesn't have that issue. I've yet to hit that phone's limits, despite trying.
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It's a pretty fast device, but I've hit 4GB of RAM during heavy browsing sessions (160+ tabs open in Firefox Nightly. I'm a HEAVY multitasker) FTR, my HTC U11 with 6GB RAM doesn't have that issue. I've yet to hit that phone's limits, despite trying.
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I can confirm EU versions with 6GB RAM have no RAM issues while on my old Moto Z with 4 GB RAM I had to restart it quite often since of my heavy use, otherwise it would begin to continually swap and so lag & increase battery consumption...
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My antutu test today
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here it is off of my AT&T variant moto z2
I finally got my OnePlus One in July 2014. I'd waited a few months in the hope of getting an invite, however in the end I imported one from China via Ali Express. In total it cost me £269 delivered to the UK, which I seem to remember was slightly cheaper than buying it direct from OnePlus at the time with an invite.
I have since used the phone every day for the last 4 years and 3 months. To be honest the OnePlus is still perfectly fine today, it has 4g, 64gb of storage, 3gigs of ram, NFC. The phone is capable of using all the app's you'd expect any phone to us, it even plays Pokemon Go perfectly fine, which is probably the most demanding thing I do on the phone.
4+ years is the longest i've ever used a single phone for, I think my previous record was the Nokia N95 which I used for 3 years.
Sadly yesterday I had some gloves on, as I reached to put my phone down on my desk at work it slid out my hand and landed on the floor. I'm not even sure how I managed to do that. At the time I thaught the phone worked fine as the actual screen is ok, it just looked to have obtained a bit of damage around the bezel.
However I soon realised the top half of the screen didn't respond to any touch what so ever. After messing about and rebooting in to TWRP, that confirmed only the bottom half of the screen was responding to touch. Meaning I can't actually enter my pattern unlock the phone!
Luckily I had actually made a full backup of all my apps and data the other day, and I can still mount the phones internal storage over USB from within TWRP, so copied a few things off which were not currently on my PC.
I had hoped to keep using the OnePlus One for 5 years, as I think that would be quite an achievement when people seem to be wasting money buying expensive phones every year or two, when theirs no real need to.
After thinking about it last night, reading reviews, watching videos on YouTube I decided I either wanted to get the OnePlus 5T or the Razer Phone. My friend has the Razer phone and the 120hz screen really does spoil you, any other phone just looks slow after using that. The Razer phone is expensive though, about £600 new, I did find one locally which said it was in "pristine condition" for £329, however i didn't really fancy getting something used.
I ended up buying a new OnePlus 5T online for £325, which should hopefully be delivered sometime next week. I think was a pretty good price. I actually think the 5T is a nicer phone than the OnePlus 6 as I really don't want to get a phone with a notch, it's just not a design choice I like. The 6 is not really a major upgrade from the 5T anyway in my opinion, certainly not worth the extra £144.
After watching some videos on OxygenOS, I realised it contained all the tweaks I think are a must have from LinageOS (LED notification colours for example) so i'm hooping just to keep that stock and enjoy the phone. With the recent addition of Project Treble support the 5T should have good custom rom support long after OnePlus don't support it anymore too.
I might well try and buy a replacement screen on Ebay and have a go at fixing my OnePlus One at some point, as it would still be a nice backup phone. That certainly doesn't look like the most easy repair though.
Hopefully the OnePlus 5T will have a good run also, its great seeing how OnePlus have grown in to a respected mobile phone brand since the One was released.
My OPO is also already 4 years with me.
And still going strong.
never had a phone for so long. And wonder if I ever will.
have been checking other phones, and the Pocophone could be my next. Friend of my is very happy with it.
Sorry to hear that about the screen. I've also been using my OPO since like April 2014.
However, I've broken and replaced my screen myself 3 times since then. It's not too bad a repair. Let me know if you need help at any part of it if you do go about replacing it. I recommend getting the replacement screen WITH the middle frame. Makes it much easier.
Both the 5T and the Razer Phone look like solid choices! Best of luck!
@InsaneNutter:
Hey buddy. Not a bad deal for the 5T!
I saw a sealed, boxed, brand new one for £325 on Gumtree today.
128GB version,
With 8GB RAM.
Midnight Black.
seninnha said:
My OPO is also already 4 years with me.
And still going strong.
never had a phone for so long. And wonder if I ever will.
have been checking other phones, and the Pocophone could be my next. Friend of my is very happy with it.
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The Pocophone is very interesting I must admit, kind of reminds me of all the excitement about the OnePlus One when that was released. That certainly is a very good deal at the moment, again for me I dislike the notch and lack of NFC, however its still a lot of phone for the money.
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Sorry to hear that about the screen. I've also been using my OPO since like April 2014.
However, I've broken and replaced my screen myself 3 times since then. It's not too bad a repair. Let me know if you need help at any part of it if you do go about replacing it. I recommend getting the replacement screen WITH the middle frame. Makes it much easier.
Both the 5T and the Razer Phone look like solid choices! Best of luck!
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Where did you purchase your screens from out of curiosity? I've seen some on Ebay for around £17 or some for a bit more with all the tools required to undertake the repair.
bmark240 said:
@InsaneNutter:
Hey buddy. Not a bad deal for the 5T!
I saw a sealed, boxed, brand new one for £325 on Gumtree today.
128GB version,
With 8GB RAM.
Midnight Black.
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Thats a pretty sweet deal for the 8GB / 128G version! i can see a few second hand 5T's going for more than that.
Just had an email saying my 5T has been delivered, so i'm looking forward to getting that setup when i'm home tonight.
Where did you purchase your screens from out of curiosity? I've seen some on Ebay for around £17 or some for a bit more with all the tools required to undertake the repair.
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I got all from eBay. One was from seller anybestbuy. Not sure if they have a listing for it still, but it was like "Screen+Digitizer+FrameAssembly" or something. The others were from thinkpan, also with the middle frame. I believe the thinkpan ones I bought in 2015, and the anybestbuy in 2016. In 2015/2016, they were ~$40, which is probably pricier than they are now. I didn't use any tools I didn't already have. The main tool is just a small Philips screwdriver and a pin for taking out the SIM card tray. A small plastic piece, like a guitar pick, is also needed for removing the back cover. Be careful pulling up the battery. It's taped super strong, so just remove it super slowly to avoid bending it. Also note that the replacement screens are not as good quality. The screen itself looks great, but the capacitive (home) buttons are dim. Main thing is that these aftermarket screens are much more prone to breaking. It took a hit on a steel air compressor to break my original screen, but an aftermarket one broke when I dropped a very small wrench on it. I do a lot of machining type things, so your OnePlus is probably in fewer dangerous situations. The screen I bought in early 2016 is going great though! I put a bigger case on it and a RhinoShield screen protector, which has done wonders. That RhinoShield was probably one of my best purchases..
Hope this helps!
A tip for repairing screens
Buy screen digitizer "with frame" (+$8 than digitizer only) , more easier to repair with. (And they are very fragile, as it's not gorilla glass or anything)
This phone is very easy to repair (as I think)
Some tips from me as having 4th screen replacement for opo ??
my opo battery died last month... bought a knck off for 6 dollers and its performing 85-90% of the original one..nt unhappy
I'm just about to pull the trigger on this beautiful foldable, the only thing I'm worried about is that I use my device the most for watching movies, youtube and twitch.
That black bars kinda bother me.
The other thing is about the durability over time of the screen because I think it will eventually brake after some years of folds. Am I wrong?
Please help me decide beetween this and Oppo Find X2 pro. (I don't care about the price tag as I want to keep the new device for at least 4 years and enjoy it the most)
About my second choice is because I want to fully enjoy a QHD 120hz display and I'm not worried about the battery life for many reasons.. (I had that device and was perfect for me but I experience some pink tint issues so I asked for a refund)
I don't really like do the lottery and hope for a better screen with Oppo or Oneplus screen.
I hope someone can help me.. thank you in advance,
Alessio
You're going to get black bars because of the screen ratio of the device when unfolded. You get smaller black bars when watching in landscape unfolded, but then the camera hole punch cuts into the video content. In portrait you get bigger bars and smaller content, but the hole punch is within the top black bar.
As for durability, I've read Samsung have tested for a certain number of folding/unfolding which equates to opening the device 100 times a day for 5 years. I can't remember where I read this and can't find anything when Googling.
It's supposed to be rated for 200,000 folds. Check out the Fold 1 Forums and ask folks about durability. The Fold2 is supposed to be a lot better.
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I've had mine for 2 days now. My previous phone was a Galaxy S20 Ultra which I'm now putting up for sale. Before getting the Z Fold 2, I also bought a Surface Duo, used it for a day and hated it, so I returned it.
It has been a learning curve with the Z Fold 2 because it's such a different device. Still not sure I love it but it's definitely growing on me. The weirdest thing was getting used to the small cover screen but I am now used to that.
I will say that the hardware is fantastic although it is a more fragile phone because of the folding screen and lack of water and dust proofing.
I don't think I'm going to have issues with the screen as long as I don't fold with something in it or press it too hard. The black bars don't bother me - that's just a result of the screen having such odd aspect ratio. The screen is a beauty. I still can't believe Samsung pulled this off. Yes the crease is there but really not an issue.
The only other issue I have with it is how slick it is since my case hasn't arrived yet but I expect that to not be an issue with a case.
I think if you decide to go for this phone, you'll like it a lot as long as you are willing to go through the learning curve of the new form factor. Worst case scenario you can always return it for a refund.
I saw it as a brilliant yet highly flawed device when I got it. Now I cant use a regular phone anymore, they're completely ruined for me. I would have preferred the device be wider because I still don't like the front screen to this day and a little wider would be all it takes to fix it. That inner screen though, shes a beauty. The internet is so much easier to browse in that format, games look fantastic, videos are unfortunately not as good as they could be thanks to the idiotic placement of the inner camera. Yeah, I know why the decided to put it there and I disagree with the decision. This phone is all about that screen and the stupid placement makes videos smaller than they should be or puts a hole in them. Neither should have been happening because it hurts the phones best attribute. As I said; flawed. I cant however go back, regular phones seem ridiculously limiting now.
I upgraded from the OG Fold and love the 2, Marked improvement all over.
The hinge is also a lot stiffer with the added functionality in the Fold 2
Watching content doesn't bother me, you get used to the black bars and it's still a much bigger viewing area than a regular phone.
My only concern is you wanting to keep it for 4 years, this is obviously new technology so no one is going to be able to say whether it can last for that length of time. I had the fold one near 9 months and never had 1 issue with it, no issues with the screen or folding.
I go with a Note. They will last 4 years and are dust/water sealed, add a good case and you're good to go.
If you charge the battery wisely (40-65% charges) you may get 4 years out of it too.
The 10+ is a proven performer and comes loaded with Pie if you prefer that OS as I do. It's got 2 OS upgrades so it should take it to 11 at least.
The 20U may have some minor issues but it seems like a solid Note.
Both support massive SD cards and are fun, fast, responsive machines with drop dead gorgeous displays.
Samsung has over extended its self both technically and financially on the Fold devices I think to spite all the glowing reviews.
Browse the forums of other current Samsung models here to get a better idea of just how small the niche is for this device. Its novelty alone will make it harder to get online tech support for. Samsung online/phone support sucks; some of the worst I ever experienced.
I blew off upgrading to the 20U because Samsung didn't give me anymore bang for the buck than my 10+.
In addition to that was Android Q with its scope storage is a performance hit not seen with Pie. It will also render legacy apks I use a lot most likely unusable.
If the Notes don't provide enough real estate, the Fold 2 be your only choice for now. The next generation should be better.
Lol, Samsung claims the conformal coating on the Fold 2's PCBs are it's waterproofing. Pure hogwash; all the switches and micro connectors are vulnerable.
I would never even consider a smartphone without water and dust sealing. Even my ancient first flip phone had them.
10 years latter it's still functional...
blackhawk said:
I go with a Note. They will last 4 years and are dust/water sealed, add a good case and you're good to go.
If you charge the battery wisely (40-65% charges) you may get 4 years out of it too.
The 10+ is a proven performer and comes loaded with Pie if you prefer that OS as I do. It's got 2 OS upgrades so it should take it to 11 at least.
The 20U may have some minor issues but it seems like a solid Note.
Both support massive SD cards and are fun, fast, responsive machines with drop dead gorgeous displays.
Samsung has over extended its self both technically and financially on the Fold devices I think to spite all the glowing reviews.
Browse the forums of other current Samsung models here to get a better idea of just how small the niche is for this device. Its novelty alone will make it harder to get online tech support for. Samsung online/phone support sucks; some of the worst I ever experienced.
I blew off upgrading to the 20U because Samsung didn't give me anymore bang for the buck than my 10+.
In addition to that was Android Q with its scope storage is a performance hit not seen with Pie. It will also render legacy apks I use a lot most likely unusable.
If the Notes don't provide enough real estate, the Fold 2 be your only choice for now. The next generation should be better.
Lol, Samsung claims the conformal coating on the Fold 2's PCBs are it's waterproofing. Pure hogwash; all the switches and micro connectors are vulnerable.
I would never even consider a smartphone without water and dust sealing. Even my ancient first flip phone had them.
10 years latter it's still functional...
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Do you actually own a Z Fold 2?
The render legacy apks unusable was laughable, that's for sure. He does not own the phone, he's been here trolling for quite a while.
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The render legacy apks unusable was laughable, that's for sure. He does not own the phone, he's been here trolling for quite a while.
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Q renders (or soon will) many legacy apks unusable not the Z. Not so funny if you're running Q...
It's a prototype. I build prototype$ not buy them.
I am however fascinated in this product in more ways than one... Samsung gro$$ly overextended themselves on this product line and the game they're playing isn't low poker.
TheMountain said:
I'm just about to pull the trigger on this beautiful foldable, the only thing I'm worried about is that I use my device the most for watching movies, youtube and twitch.
That black bars kinda bother me.
The other thing is about the durability over time of the screen because I think it will eventually brake after some years of folds. Am I wrong?
Please help me decide beetween this and Oppo Find X2 pro. (I don't care about the price tag as I want to keep the new device for at least 4 years and enjoy it the most)
About my second choice is because I want to fully enjoy a QHD 120hz display and I'm not worried about the battery life for many reasons.. (I had that device and was perfect for me but I experience some pink tint issues so I asked for a refund)
I don't really like do the lottery and hope for a better screen with Oppo or Oneplus screen.
I hope someone can help me.. thank you in advance,
Alessio
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Sorry i'm late to the party!!! So i came from a Find X2 pro to the Fold 2 and honestly i love the fold 2. I work at a Machine shop and my fold 2 has been perfectly fine (im not saying its the most durable phone on earth , but it definetly feels like its gonna be just fine). if there were any major drawbacks id say the lack of cases that protect the hinge spine , and the crappy rubber inner screen protector (which has been removed),and the cameras (comparing to the Find x2 pro directly) .
overall the black bars while watching youtube i can live with cause it has so much real estate on the inner screen that it quickly became something i dont notice anymore.
The cameras are good not the best but good, the find x2 pro camera was fantastic.
My main issue has to be cases, i currently have 6 cases (araree bonnet wallet,spigen thin fit,gkk thin fit,2xchinese "leather back" cases,ringke clear) and the Araree bonnet is the only one that protects the spine yet its awkward to use when folded(back of case digs into finger when holding 1 handed and cover hanging is a minor annoyance) when open the case is ok. all the other cases yeild the same result , when closed they protect the front & back but leave the spine exposed when folded. so its a catch 22 in the case department.
I also applied a Dbrand teardown skin "ultramatte" and its awesome cause the black back of the phone was a fingerprint haven.
So im sure ive rambled enough haha, but i would honestly say overall even with the drawbacks id take the fold 2 over the find x2 pro if i had to choose again.
also i ordered the Spigen Tough Armor (which seems like it will be a good case protecting the spine/hinge and not being "in the way"when used folded like the araree bonnet)
Either way both phones are really good im sure you'll be happy with either
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The render legacy apks unusable was laughable, that's for sure. He does not own the phone, he's been here trolling for quite a while.
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Sounds about right. He doesn't own one and is here just trolling away.
I'm not sure what the point of going to a sub section and complaining about a phone you don't own and aren't going to buy is but it happens often enough here. I completely understand the posts where people say they are disappointed about a device as it comes out, are moving elsewhere, and the why. These posts can be useful to those on the fence. To go back to this device I still think while flawed it's an amazing piece of kit and more than any other phone I've ever encountered; one you really have to use to fully get. It's unfortunate the entry fee is so steep as to make test driving one unreasonable for most.
Honestly I have had every note that Samsung has made and my secondary device is a note 20. I am now spoiled I have had my zfold 2 a month and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again. I'm a fold loyalist from now on
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Honestly I have had every note that Samsung has made and my secondary device is a note 20. I am now spoiled I have had my zfold 2 a month and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again. I'm a fold loyalist from now on
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Well said... I had the fold1 and now the fold2 and can't imagine going back to a "normal" mobile phone again... regardless of brand.
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Honestly I have had every note that Samsung has made and my secondary device is a note 20. I am now spoiled I have had my zfold 2 a month and I can't go back to a regular phone ever again. I'm a fold loyalist from now on
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I'm a Note loyalist but I've been playing with the ZF2 at Best Buy and am in love with it. Can't decide if I can give up my SPen though.
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I'm a Note loyalist but I've been playing with the ZF2 at Best Buy and am in love with it. Can't decide if I can give up my SPen though.
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Next year, the fold 3 is replacing the note line and getting a Spend.
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Next year, the fold 3 is replacing the note line and getting a Spend.
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Yeah, I knew that was the latest rumor. It's one reason I'm considering the Fold 2 now. Might as well grab it, because it will have a higher trade in value next year when I get the Fold 3, LOL.
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Next year, the fold 3 is replacing the note line and getting a Spend.
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So they are saying.
So far the durability has been lacking and the price is higher than I pay for a laptop.
The Fold sales have been dismal thus far... if that tells you something.
Sparkling reviews, all of them.
What's wrong with this picture?
I don't share Samsung's enthusiasm and they grossly overextended themselves trying to develop this technology. Their other expensive phones suffered as a result and during a worldwide economic downturn at that. Brilliant.
The Edsel was a similar money sinkhole released during a recession. That ended well.
I call snake eyes.
Break away in a wide track Pontiac GTO... :laugh:
* And maybe tri-fold phone. Oh my... hold on to your hats:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mspowe...old-smartphone-bandwagon-with-new-patent/amp/
Apple sounds amused, maybe nervous:
https://www.patentlyapple.com/paten...-continue-to-work-on-a-next-gen-tri-fold.html
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Without a shadow of a doubt the Fold 2 is the best mobile device i have owned in over 20 years of owning a mobile. Durability is perfectly fine (for me), battery life is excellent, (i get 9hrs SOT with the 90hz app) and the main foldable screen is amazing with or without the factory fitted film protector.
The front screen is still slightly too narrow to make the device 100% perfect but perhaps next years Fold3 will resolve that outstanding issue...
I can't imagine ever going back to a "normal" candy bar style phone ever again.
Yes foldable devices are currently hugely expensive but as an early adopter I accept i have chosen to pay more than the average consumer would. Hopefully (!) In a couple of years Samsung will be able to sell a fold5 for 100 or 200 £$€ more than the equivalent S23 Ultra price.