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[Q] What does a Custom ROM do for my Xoom!?!

All,
I want to root my Xoom and us a custom Rom. I was thinking that I would ask a couple of questions before I do it.
I WILL NOT HOLD ANYONE RESONSABLE FOR THEIR COMMENTS OR ADVICE IF I BRICK MY XOOM!!
I was going to add to a couple of possible forum, but I thought it may be better to start a new question.
1) What do you get when you root your Xoom?
2) What is the advantage for using a custom ROM.?
3) If I use a custom Rom will it improve my Xoom performance?
4) What ROM would you use?
5) Where can I go to get the files and information on what to do?
6) Does the ROM get updates?
7) Do you overclock you Xoom when you us custom ROM?
8) What is the latest version of Android come with Custom ROM?
I love my Xoom and would like to get the most out of it
Thanks,
Grim

You will get most answers HERE

Grimroid said:
All,
I want to root my Xoom and us a custom Rom. I was thinking that I would ask a couple of questions before I do it.
I WILL NOT HOLD ANYONE RESONSABLE FOR THEIR COMMENTS OR ADVICE IF I BRICK MY XOOM!!
I was going to add to a couple of possible forum, but I thought it may be better to start a new question.
1) What do you get when you root your Xoom?
2) What is the advantage for using a custom ROM.?
3) If I use a custom Rom will it improve my Xoom performance?
4) What ROM would you use?
5) Where can I go to get the files and information on what to do?
6) Does the ROM get updates?
7) Do you overclock you Xoom when you us custom ROM?
8) What is the latest version of Android come with Custom ROM?
I love my Xoom and would like to get the most out of it
Thanks,
Grim
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I don't claim these as facts but just from my experiences and readings.
1. rooting elevates your rights on the Android system. It's equivalent to admin for windows. If you want to know what advantages rooting provides google it as there are many written articles about that.
2. I wouldn't say it's an advantage but just provides more options and features. This varies depending on ROM.
3. It would depend on what version you are on now and chances are, the answer would be, not really. The kernel for the xoom is still the same one from 4.1 which is where the performance gains / loses come from. Although some ROMS are able to minimize in the UI. If you are coming from honeycomb then yes there is noticeable performance gains.
4. I'm currently using EOS 4 Build 197 Bigpart with Elemental bigpart Kernel. There is a kitkat ROM out now however, it's wingray only. Waiting for the possibility of stingray. But like i mentioned before, until someone can update our kernel don't expect any real performance changes.
5. Use the link the last guy provided or just check the development forum. The How to is usually the top most post.
6. Currently the only ROM getting any support / updates is the new Kitkat ROM for wingray (wifi only). How long... depends on how long the developer remains interested. They do it all for free so how frequently is when they feel like working on it.
7. Yes, i overclock to 1600mhz max makes a difference.

Domunus said:
I don't claim these as facts but just from my experiences and readings.
1. rooting elevates your rights on the Android system. It's equivalent to admin for windows. If you want to know what advantages rooting provides google it as there are many written articles about that.
2. I wouldn't say it's an advantage but just provides more options and features. This varies depending on ROM.
3. It would depend on what version you are on now and chances are, the answer would be, not really. The kernel for the xoom is still the same one from 4.1 which is where the performance gains / loses come from. Although some ROMS are able to minimize in the UI. If you are coming from honeycomb then yes there is noticeable performance gains.
4. I'm currently using EOS 4 Build 197 Bigpart with Elemental bigpart Kernel. There is a kitkat ROM out now however, it's wingray only. Waiting for the possibility of stingray. But like i mentioned before, until someone can update our kernel don't expect any real performance changes.
5. Use the link the last guy provided or just check the development forum. The How to is usually the top most post.
6. Currently the only ROM getting any support / updates is the new Kitkat ROM for wingray (wifi only). How long... depends on how long the developer remains interested. They do it all for free so how frequently is when they feel like working on it.
7. Yes, i overclock to 1600mhz max makes a difference.
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This are really good point. Thanks for your reply.
Grim

Overclock and kitkat; that's why you want custom. Xoom at 1.6GHz running 4.4.2 with ART feels like a brand new tablet. Just do all your research first or you'll be buying a new tablet.

1) What do you get when you root your Xoom?
Depends.
2) What is the advantage for using a custom ROM.?
whatever Stock ROM doesn't provide.
3) If I use a custom Rom will it improve my Xoom performance?
If the custom rom contains overclocked CPU or GPU, then it will indeed.
4) What ROM would you use?
CM11
5) Where can I go to get the files and information on what to do?
HERE!!!
6) Does the ROM get updates?
It depends...the more users are IN, we could get more update chances.
7) Do you overclock you Xoom when you us custom ROM?
Yup. That's one of the PROs I've explained. 1.0Ghz is too slow.
8) What is the latest version of Android come with Custom ROM?
CM11 is based on KitKat(which you could call Android 4.4)
Grimroid said:
All,
I want to root my Xoom and us a custom Rom. I was thinking that I would ask a couple of questions before I do it.
I WILL NOT HOLD ANYONE RESONSABLE FOR THEIR COMMENTS OR ADVICE IF I BRICK MY XOOM!!
I was going to add to a couple of possible forum, but I thought it may be better to start a new question.
1) What do you get when you root your Xoom?
2) What is the advantage for using a custom ROM.?
3) If I use a custom Rom will it improve my Xoom performance?
4) What ROM would you use?
5) Where can I go to get the files and information on what to do?
6) Does the ROM get updates?
7) Do you overclock you Xoom when you us custom ROM?
8) What is the latest version of Android come with Custom ROM?
I love my Xoom and would like to get the most out of it
Thanks,
Grim
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skidrash said:
Overclock and kitkat; that's why you want custom. Xoom at 1.6GHz running 4.4.2 with ART feels like a brand new tablet. Just do all your research first or you'll be buying a new tablet.
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I can't tell you how many times I soft bricked during the process, but every time - with some persistence and research on these forums - I was able to recover and proceed. Eventually I got it right. Highly recommend searching for AIO_scripts_R.A.H._TWRPv2.6.3.zip here to help automate switching out of fastboot modes.

Trying to understand ROM and Kernel

Hello, i didn't find any answer so here's my question :
ROM :
What's the differences between 2 customs ROM ?
I mean, i have seen like 10 different ROM based on the same android version but i don't see any difference.
Why shouldn't I stay on Cyanogen ? I don't get it.
Kernel :
I think i kind of understand the benefit on a custom kernel (overclock, maybe better battery life ?) but isn't it too risky ?
How does kernel compatibility work ? Is it based on an Android version ? Do 5.0.0 kernel will be compatible with a 5.1.1 version ?
Do you really feel the difference compared to the stock cyanogen one ?
And my last question will be : does cyanogen 12 (and 12.1) have OTA update or do i have to flash new zip every day ?
Thanks !!

GinjiBan said:
Hello, i didn't find any answer so here's my question :
ROM :
What's the differences between 2 customs ROM ?
I mean, i have seen like 10 different ROM based on the same android version but i don't see any difference.
Why shouldn't I stay on Cyanogen ? I don't get it.
Kernel :
I think i kind of understand the benefit on a custom kernel (overclock, maybe better battery life ?) but isn't it too risky ?
How does kernel compatibility work ? Is it based on an Android version ? Do 5.0.0 kernel will be compatible with a 5.1.1 version ?
Do you really feel the difference compared to the stock cyanogen one ?
And my last question will be : does cyanogen 12 (and 12.1) have OTA update or do i have to flash new zip every day ?
Thanks !!
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The ROMs might look the same but they're not. Features are implemented in different ways, plus there's a lot of unique code that you don't see which can affect many things, like speed and battery life. Also, you'll find that different ROMs have different feature sets. All in all it's up to you to decide which one is best for you, so have a look through them and pick one to test out. If you don't like it you can always flash another.
Custom kernels can offer extra features like overclocking, undervolting, fast charge while connected to a usb power source. There are risks involved, like if you overclock it can reduce the long term life of your CPU, undervolting too much will lead to instability.
CM12 (and 12.1) are nightlies which means there's a new build every day to update to (if you choose). You can either flash them manually or download via the OTA system. Not all ROMs have the OTA system.
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Thank you very much !!
Maybe i should dig more into the ROM's topic because their customs features are not listed anywhere.. That's too bad ^^
Do you know if all the gestures are implemented on CM 12 / 12.1 (not only double tap but all of them) ?

GinjiBan said:
Thank you very much !!
Maybe i should dig more into the ROM's topic because their customs features are not listed anywhere.. That's too bad ^^
Do you know if all the gestures are implemented on CM 12 / 12.1 (not only double tap but all of them) ?
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Yes, as far as I know the gestures are implemented, they have been on all ROMs that I've tried anyway.
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timmaaa said:
Yes, as far as I know the gestures are implemented, they have been on all ROMs that I've tried anyway.
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Thanks again !
How come custom kernel like Franco's one can improve your battery life ? I've seen everyone talking about it ..

GinjiBan said:
Thanks again !
How come custom kernel like Franco's one can improve your battery life ? I've seen everyone talking about it ..
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There are various differences between stock CM kernel and custom kernels, far too many for me to go into. Honestly though, the difference in battery life really isn't all that much. I never use a custom kernel and I still get great battery life.
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gaming rom

Which mi 4i rom is the best for gaming ?

I own a Mi4i but want to answer the question more in a general way. Mi4i processor is not a performer.
Best roms should be one that don't run to many processes in the background. AOSP based roms with only essential features should do good. A good custom kernel with the right settings can speed up the device if it's working. Same applies for builds with a custom toolchain like uber or saber.

tudki said:
I own a Mi4i but want to answer the question more in a general way. Mi4i processor is not a performer.
Best roms should be one that don't run to many processes in the background. AOSP based roms with only essential features should do good. A good custom kernel with the right settings can speed up the device if it's working. Same applies for builds with a custom toolchain like uber or saber.
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Can u suggest me any particular custom rom and custom kernel ?

No, I said you what I want to say. I think I've given you enought hint's. It wouldn't be serious because I play simple games like spacepeng, so I don't know. I think you own the wrong device for you intend.

Suggest the best Nougat Rom for my moto droid turbo(Indian Variant)?

I want to install a rom, Nougat based which has very minimal bugs. Should be best in performance and battery backup. I am very new to this Moto community. So confused to select. Suggest me some best rom.

My personal opinion based on what I see people write in the threads. If you want Nougat, any of these three ROMS have very high reviews. You can go to those threads and ask questions.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
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If you want the complete list of ROMs available here you go:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73917795&postcount=91
I only bothered with Nougat and Marshmallow, didn't list any Lollipop ROMs as those are very outdated.
I'm still using RR 6.X (Marshmallow) by the way on mine and my wife's XT1225.
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EDIT:
I am now running of those top three -- RR 7.x instead of RR 6.X, which I was running at the time of this answer back in April. Back then I wasn't ready to move to Nougat from very stable RR 6.x, but now have.
But still these are probably the top three. It's my opinion, based on comments, questions, developer response in the threads.

ChazzMatt said:
My personal opinion based on what I see people write in the threads. If you want Nougat, any of these three ROMS have very high reviews. You can go to those threads and ask questions.
[ROM][All Quark][7.x] Resurrection Remix
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]AOKP 7.x For All Quark
[ROM][Quarks][LOS/CM 14.1 Unofficial][7.1.x][2016-12-30] (hybrid of CM14 and Resurrection Remix)
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If you want the complete list of ROMs available here you go:
[ROMs][Quarks][List for Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo and Droid Turbo]
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71394081&postcount=70
I only bothered with Nougat and Marshmallow, didn't list any Lollipop ROMs as those are outdated.
I'm still using RR 6.X by the way on mine and my wife's XT1225.
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Thankyou very much for spending ur time in replying me. which one do you suggest? Actually, in some roms (mobiles other than moto) i experienced call drop issues. its like If someone are calling ,Im unable to see any call screen or any vibration/ring sound. But they can hear that they are calling me.So, By installing one of the above roms, Would I face this issue? Please suggest me a best of the three. Thankyou

krishna13 said:
Thankyou very much for spending ur time in replying me. which one do you suggest?
Actually, in some roms (mobiles other than moto) i experienced call drop issues. its like If someone are calling ,Im unable to see any call screen or any vibration/ring sound. But they can hear that they are calling me.So, By installing one of the above roms, Would I face this issue? Please suggest me a best of the three. Thankyou
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None of those three ROMs would have that issue. All three of those devs have been active for quite a while with these Quarks. We welcome all devs -- but I will trust those who have proven over and over and over to be responsive to users questions and will help solve issues.
I was on CM12.1 (Lollipop) until last October 2016, and it was rock stable. So, I was loathe to change, but I went with RR 6.x (Marshmallow) -- yes about the time Nougat ROMs were being made. I'm still on RR 6.X, but I'm active in all the Nougat ROM threads. I see the complaints, I answer questions, and I know what are ROM issues and what are really user issues.
But when I do switch to Nougat, I am leaning slightly towards RR 7.X, just because I've had a very good experience with RR 6.X on my phone and my wife's phone. And of the three LG phones I support (for friends), I installed RR 6.X on two of those, so I'm more familiar with Resurrection Remix layout.

ChazzMatt said:
None of those three ROMs would have that issue. All three of those devs have been active for quite a while with these Quarks. We welcome all devs -- but I will trust those who have proven over and over and over to be responsive to users questions and will help solve issues.
I was on CM12.1 (Lollipop) until last October 2016, and it was rock stable. So, I was loathe to change, but I went with RR 6.x (Marshmallow) -- yes about the time Nougat ROMs were being made. I'm still on RR 6.X, but I'm active in all the Nougat ROM threads. I see the complaints, I answer questions, and I know what are ROM issues and what are really user issues.
But when I do switch to Nougat, I am leaning slightly towards RR 7.X, just because I've had a very good experience with RR 6.X on my phone and my wife's phone. And of the three LG phones I support (for friends), I installed RR 6.X on two of those, so I'm more familiar with Resurrection Remix layout.
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Hi. Please help me. I have followed each and evey step and installed RR 7.1, the latest april build. Phone booted normally. But the problem is I cant proceed with the setup after language selection as when I click on "start as a fresh" or "restore from backup" options, I am getting a message "setup wizard keeps stopping". I went to recovery and made a factory reset but no change at all. Please could u help me what to do?

krishna13 said:
Hi. Please help me. I have followed each and evey step and installed RR 7.1, the latest april build. Phone booted normally. But the problem is I cant proceed with the setup after language selection as when I click on "start as a fresh" or "restore from backup" options, I am getting a message "setup wizard keeps stopping". I went to recovery and made a factory reset but no change at all. Please could u help me what to do?
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You should ask the question in the RR 7.X ROM thread, where users of that ROM can help you. I'm not using Nougat ROM myself.

I have flashed the RR Nougat, coming from a MM stock. Could it be realistic I experience some loss of performance at high demand tasks (like games?) and quicker drain of battery?

M_w_B said:
I have flashed the RR Nougat, coming from a MM stock. Could it be realistic I experience some loss of performance at high demand tasks (like games?) and quicker drain of battery?
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Normally there's a trade-off of performance vs battery, depending on which kernel governor you choose. But you are experiencing both?
For instance "conservative" governor gives better battery life, "performance" governor of course gives more performance but will drain battery quicker. Then there's a whole bunch of others (especially in @bhb27 custom kernel, which you have to install separately from any ROM) that promises to give better battery AND performance. Or at least a good compromise.
I'm currently using "alucard" both as governor and hotplug.
https://androidmodguide.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html
A favourite choice and one of the original governors that Alucard_24 made. Alucard is based on ondemand but has been heavily tweaked to bring better battery life and performance. It has been known to be battery friendly without sacrificing much performance.
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ChazzMatt said:
Normally there's a trade-off of performance vs battery, depending on which kernel governor you choose. But you are experiencing both?
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I can remember playing aorund with CPU governors on my Xperia Pro and DROID 4, but with the current custom kernel I am using bhb27I can't find the option to switch between governors, or set certain profiles at all. I could have been missing it.
Though, in short: does MM have longer battery durance and better performance? Cause I can't find any conclusion on this, perhaps a well respected expert like you might be able to tell me?
Also thank you for the info so far, I am surprised the attention you give to devs and members to help those in need! :good::good:

M_w_B said:
I can remember playing aorund with CPU governors on my Xperia Pro and DROID 4, but with the current custom kernel I am using bhb27I can't find the option to switch between governors, or set certain profiles at all. I could have been missing it.
Though, in short: does MM have longer battery durance and better performance? Cause I can't find any conclusion on this, perhaps a well respected expert like you might be able to tell me?
Also thank you for the info so far, I am surprised the attention you give to devs and members to help those in need! :good::good:
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You are welcome.
To change CPU governors, hotplugs, I/O schedulers and such, you need Kernel Aduitor app found over in the @bhb27 kernel thread.
He provides a modded version of the app that works well both his custom kernel and the ROM "stock" kernel. His custom kernel has even more options.

ChazzMatt said:
You are welcome.
To change CPU governors, hotplugs, I/O schedulers and such, you need Kernel Aduitor app found over in the @bhb27 kernel thread.
He provides a modded version of the app that works well both his custom kernel and the ROM "stock" kernel. His custom kernel has even more options.
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I already found some modifications, set the governor to 'conservative' and it gave my Droid an instant boost and somehow a longer lasting on battery as when it was slower. I have no idea why, probably locks or such occured? Anyway it works flowless now and I will take your app also in consideration.

Several Noob questions about custom ROMs?

Hi guys,
I always read in the Xda forum but never wrote or asked a question...usually someone already asked them.
so I have the Mi 5S PLUS...but I hate the miui UI. can't get used to it. And yesterday I finally found that there are custom ROM for this device.
So I got few questions.
1. As far as i know, the source code hasnt been released but should be released soon. should I wait for a ROM that uses the source code?
2. I see that the most popular costum ROMs for this device are - Lineage and resurrection remix. In terms of battery life, stability and bug free rom. which one is the best?
3. I see there is one ROM with the tag [OFFICIAL]....does this mean it uses the source code? if not, what does it mean?
thanks a lot to those that answer

eliko2000 said:
Hi guys,
I always read in the Xda forum but never wrote or asked a question...usually someone already asked them.
so I have the Mi 5S PLUS...but I hate the miui UI. can't get used to it. And yesterday I finally found that there are custom ROM for this device.
So I got few questions.
1. As far as i know, the source code hasnt been released but should be released soon. should I wait for a ROM that uses the source code?
2. I see that the most popular costum ROMs for this device are - Lineage and resurrection remix. In terms of battery life, stability and bug free rom. which one is the best?
3. I see there is one ROM with the tag [OFFICIAL]....does this mean it uses the source code? if not, what does it mean?
thanks a lot to those that answer
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1. Source code is released but rom based on source code are not released yet .You can use them but their are some bugs,
2.You can check yourself
3. Official means official rom from lineage team or other maintainers just like Global MIUI rom from xiaomi is official while xiaomi.eu is unofficial .
You can check for source in rom page for more info about what device tree and source code it uses

ashish289 said:
1. Source code is released but rom based on source code are not released yet .You can use them but their are some bugs,
2.You can check yourself
3. Official means official rom from lineage team or other maintainers just like Global MIUI rom from xiaomi is official while xiaomi.eu is unofficial .
You can check for source in rom page for more info about what device tree and source code it uses
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Thanks for the answers. But I asked because I prefer to install one and that's it. and if someone used the both ..why not to hear opinions.

I recomend RR

eliko2000 said:
Thanks for the answers. But I asked because I prefer to install one and that's it. and if someone used the both ..why not to hear opinions.
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The reason that people don't recommend one over the other is because YMMV. I know I came from a cyanogen ROM with my previous phone and dirty unicorns on the phoen before that (along with a whole set of custom ROMs). In the end though, I found them all to be "similar". Yes, some do some things differently like some offer a lot of CPU governors, while others keep the list pretty tight. Some default with swap space on, some don't use swap space at all (this phone shouldn't need swap space). Sometimes the difference between two ROMs is just the launcher.
For me, I don't really like the MIUI launcher. It feels a lot like an iphone. This isn't a bad thing. Some people like it. I just install Apex (from the play store) and my issues with the ROM were mostly resolved. The only remaining problem is MASS STORAGE. But, based on my experience with mly previous phone, I doubt I'll find a ROM that natively supports it. But I know how to hack my way in and get that going (just need root... which requires an unlocked bootloader... and if I am reading things correctly, you need to wipe everything which I currently not willing to do... but may have found a workaround... going to test it out tomorrow).

bmg002 said:
The reason that people don't recommend one over the other is because YMMV. I know I came from a cyanogen ROM with my previous phone and dirty unicorns on the phoen before that (along with a whole set of custom ROMs). In the end though, I found them all to be "similar". Yes, some do some things differently like some offer a lot of CPU governors, while others keep the list pretty tight. Some default with swap space on, some don't use swap space at all (this phone shouldn't need swap space). Sometimes the difference between two ROMs is just the launcher.
For me, I don't really like the MIUI launcher. It feels a lot like an iphone. This isn't a bad thing. Some people like it. I just install Apex (from the play store) and my issues with the ROM were mostly resolved. The only remaining problem is MASS STORAGE. But, based on my experience with mly previous phone, I doubt I'll find a ROM that natively supports it. But I know how to hack my way in and get that going (just need root... which requires an unlocked bootloader... and if I am reading things correctly, you need to wipe everything which I currently not willing to do... but may have found a workaround... going to test it out tomorrow).
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Wipe everything is very simple connect the phone via USB cable to PC and via twrp wipe everything then past a Rom on the phone and flash it, that's it

venezolano69 said:
Wipe everything is very simple connect the phone via USB cable to PC and via twrp wipe everything then past a Rom on the phone and flash it, that's it
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Wiping everything is easy, yes, but I want to avoid wiping if I don't have to.
Got the phone rooted without needing to wipe it (yay), but getting mass storage enabled failed on me. I can't seem to write to the file I need to which confuses me... but that is off topic so I'll refrain from boring you with details on that.
Back on topic, if you are switching to a custom ROM you will need to wipe things. I personally would wait for a custom kernel to come out before you start playing with custom ROMs unless the custom ROM has a feature you REALLY want. With my previous phones, the one that had a custom Kernel as well as custom ROMs was a lot more stable and had a lot fewer bugs. The one that had only factory kernel, the custom ROMs were flaky. They mostly worked, but they did have bugs. If I got a phone call or called somebody and they hung up first, it would crash the dialer and the dialer would fail to start again until I rebooted. Now a custom kernel may not have helped that, but since the kernel was based on a previous version of Android, it was unstable.
The current custom ROMs (that I have seen) are all based off of the stock kernel and not newer ones so I personally do not expect to see much benefit in changing ROMs except having different bloat and a different launcher. Well, at lest for the things I use my phone for. But YMMV.