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currently i have i8000 and i'd like to buy an android phone. my favourite is nexus s (i am also considering an atrix 4G, but it's more expensive than nexus s - about 25%, and it's much harder to find where i live).
i have a few questions for nexus s users:
-how are you satisfied with your battery life, can it last the whole day with moderate use (1-2 hours wi-fi, 1-2 hours video, half an hour- 1 hour gaming, a little bit reading, a few short calls)?
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
-can you normally play tegra games with chainfire, how is the performance?
-can you play mpg, flv, mkv videos?
-any other comment/opinion will be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance.
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
working with nice fps.. without laggs..
pike888 said:
currently i have i8000 and i'd like to buy an android phone. my favourite is nexus s (i am also considering an atrix 4G, but it's more expensive than nexus s - about 25%, and it's much harder to find where i live).
i have a few questions for nexus s users:
-how are you satisfied with your battery life, can it last the whole day with moderate use (1-2 hours wi-fi, 1-2 hours video, half an hour- 1 hour gaming, a little bit reading, a few short calls)?
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
-can you normally play tegra games with chainfire, how is the performance?
-can you play mpg, flv, mkv videos?
-any other comment/opinion will be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance.
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It does all that, except maybe mkv playback (depends on quality).
But, if you don't have it yet, then don't buy it. I see no reason why you would get this phone in this day and age.
Most of us here have it for more than a half a year, when it was still competitive.
Now you could easily get a dual core phone for a reasonable price. Event the Galaxy S Plus would be a better choice.
Just saying... This phone is almost dead. It's towards the end of it's support period from Google, which hasn't been great so far and it's just hardware. It gets old.
marcelnn said:
It does all that, except maybe mkv playback (depends on quality).
But, if you don't have it yet, then don't buy it. I see no reason why you would get this phone in this day and age.
Most of us here have it for more than a half a year, when it was still competitive.
Now you could easily get a dual core phone for a reasonable price. Event the Galaxy S Plus would be a better choice.
Just saying... This phone is almost dead. It's towards the end of it's support period from Google, which hasn't been great so far and it's just hardware. It gets old.
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well, if it does all that it's good enough for me.
for various factors (price, availability, me not wanting an amoled screen), my choice is limited to these:
-nexus s - for now, it's more likely my next phone
-optimus 2x - horrible battery life
-incredible s - seems fine, but as i read, nexus s is a little better (and cheaper)
-se xperia arc - similar to incredible s
-atrix 4g - nice, but most expensive of the bunch, and pretty hard to find
there are many video apks, free and paid, that play mkv video files.
Nexus s
Battery life is good, it last a whole day with a moderate use if u use a custom rom+kernel (my case).
Performance is very nice for a single-core smartphone, it runs gta3, asphalt 6, 9mm, nfs shift, and overs very smoothly.
In general i'm really enjoying the nexus s.
-how are you satisfied with your battery life, can it last the whole day with moderate use (1-2 hours wi-fi, 1-2 hours video, half an hour- 1 hour gaming, a little bit reading, a few short calls)?
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
-can you normally play tegra games with chainfire, how is the performance?
-can you play mpg, flv, mkv videos?
-any other comment/opinion will be greatly appreciated.
1- I am satisfied with the battery life! but I would recommend rooting the nexuss and flash a new rom where you can customize the cpu and voltge.
2/3/4-I don't have a lot of games but for playing movies and videos it work great!
I just bought mine last month and I am very satisfied specially coming from an iphone 3gs!
Root it and it turns into a baby galaxy nexus
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i've had a chance to try nexus s, and i wasn't impressed.
the phone isn't rooted, runs ics, everything is on stock.
-i tried browsing the web, and it was pretty fine.
-720p .mkv video (in mx player) is too choppy to watch.
-i downloaded two free games from the market - asphalt 6 and gameloft real football 2012.
asphalt 6 lags like hell. it was a slideshow, not more than 2FPS.
real football 2012 worked significantly better, but it wasn't playable too; every few seconds it slows down, and after a second or two, it starts working normally.
would rooting/custom rom&kernel improve situation significantly?
For graphic intensive games, my nexus s ran shadowgun, backstab, gta3, and samurai2. Except for gta3, they all run without a hiccup and damn smooth. But I've had some hiccups with gta3. Also running a custom rom and custom kernel is much more better than stock in every way.
PS : For videos try "Dice player" in market. It is the best video player for nexus s and even the dev of diceplayer owns nexus s.
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pike888 said:
i've had a chance to try nexus s, and i wasn't impressed.
the phone isn't rooted, runs ics, everything is on stock.
-i tried browsing the web, and it was pretty fine.
-720p .mkv video (in mx player) is too choppy to watch.
-i downloaded two free games from the market - asphalt 6 and gameloft real football 2012.
asphalt 6 lags like hell. it was a slideshow, not more than 2FPS.
real football 2012 worked significantly, but it wasn't playable too; every few seconds it slows down, and after a second or two, it starts working normally.
would rooting/custom rom&kernel improve situation significantly?
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Asphalt 6 runs smooth as butter on my stock 2.3.6. Something is horribly wrong with the phone you used.
I also recently got a "new" nexus S and I dont see anything wrong with it. No dual core phone was near the price and in my opinion nexus S is better than the likes of incredible S, xperia arc etc.
and what do you think could be wrong with the phone i tried?
it couldn't be faulty hardware, right?
good phone
It's definitely a good phone for games. You can run games like asphalt 6, GTA 3, NFS or Counter strike portable whith high FPS (45-55). About the game 9mm, I wasn't able to play it because it was with to much lag, so much lag that was impossible to play. I'm in stock ICS. I do recomend that you buy a dual core phone if you're a gamming guy.
Today I had some stutters in Asphalt 6 so maybe it has something to do with background processes. My homescreen had certainly grown with more widgets since the last time I played it.
But I agree if you are very serious about gaming then you may wanna consider something better. What I can tell you is that if nexus S cant play something smoothly then neither would any other single core phone since we have the best GPU of all single core phones.
You could look into samsung galaxy R or the upcoming galaxy S advance. Both phones have one weird limitation with gaming, you can only use 3.5GB for storage of games so you could potentially only have 4-5 HD games before that space maxes out doesnt matter if you have 32GB card. You have to root the phone to bypass this limitation.
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Today I had some stutters in Asphalt 6 so maybe it has something to do with background processes. My homescreen had certainly grown with more widgets since the last time I played it.
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I have the same experience, runs very smooth when i turn off al other apps and widgets
Don't use the market version of asphalt 6. Use the tegra 2 version instead coz I didn't get intensive lag afterwards.
Anyone notice that some graphic intensive games stutter? I'm not talking about framerate. This also happens on my Z2 tablet.
Running the games side by side my LG G2, The G2 is noticeably smoother. Running benchmarks side by side, The G2 is smoother again, but The Z3 scores higher.
Current games I'm playing are:
Riptide GP 2
Dead trigger 2
Slingshot Braves
Update 07/09/2016: I'm now using a Z5 and experiencing the same. My old LG G2 is smoother.
shilent said:
Anyone notice that some graphic intensive games stutter? I'm not talking about framerate. This also happens on my Z2 tablet.
Running the games side by side my LG G2, The G2 is noticeably smoother. Running benchmarks side by side, The G2 is smoother again, but The Z3 scores higher.
Current games I'm playing are:
Riptide GP 2
Dead trigger 2
Slingshot Braves
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I havnt had any prolems so far. Ive play asphault 8, modern combat and GTA pretty flawlessly. Are you using heavy launchers? I also use a taskmanager to close everything prior to gaming. (ive done this with all my devices not just my z3)
I'm using the default launcher.
I'll Try Asphalt 8 later today.
Thanks.
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Must say I have not noticed stuttering like you mention, I will also try Asphalt 8 and see how it fairs.
My bench marks 3d is smooth, and my device on Antutu tops the 3d default scores.
I have though made a couple of tweaks.
Here they are and see if it helps;
Go to settings, click about phone 10 times (or until you become a developer)
Go into developer options
Go down to Hardware-Accelerated rendering
Tick force GPU rendering
And Disable HW overlays.
See how you go after that.
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Must say I have not noticed stuttering like you mention, I will also try Asphalt 8 and see how it fairs.
My bench marks 3d is smooth, and my device on Antutu tops the 3d default scores.
I have though made a couple of tweaks.
Here they are and see if it helps;
Go to settings, click about phone 10 times (or until you become a developer)
Go into developer options
Go down to Hardware-Accelerated rendering
Tick force GPU rendering
And Disable HW overlays.
See how you go after that.
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Force GPU rendering and Disabling HW overlays did not make a difference.
I just tried Asphalt 8 on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and my fiance's Z3 compact, and it stutters like crazy. Much more than Riptide GP 2. Don't get me wrong, the games are playable, but much more enjoyable on my older LG G2.
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It could be heat or game related, My LG G2 never stuttered either and the Z3 for me has stuttered only in PlayStore of all places but a restart fixed that.
Hey mate i have been scouring the net for an answer to exactly the same problem you are having. Virtually every game has some intermittent stuttering which is pretty consistently occuring every few seconds so as you say games are very playable but dont feel smooth.
I have tried asphalt 8, zen pinball, Pinball Arcade , real racing 3 and none feel completely smooth. I thought maybe that real racing 3 may have been too graphically intense for the z3 but after reading so many reports from other z3 users on how good the game played on their phones it made me start looking for a solution. Pinball arcade and zen really sealed the deal for me about maybe something wasnt quite right though as these 2 games should pose absolutely no problem for any modern device (my vita vetsion side by side looks much smoother) but the ball will stutter every so often too.
If you find a solution i would really like to know what you did as i am new to android and everything ive read to try hasnt helped.
thedaz3000 said:
Hey mate i have been scouring the net for an answer to exactly the same problem you are having. Virtually every game has some intermittent stuttering which is pretty consistently occuring every few seconds so as you say games are very playable but dont feel smooth.
I have tried asphalt 8, zen pinball, Pinball Arcade , real racing 3 and none feel completely smooth. I thought maybe that real racing 3 may have been too graphically intense for the z3 but after reading so many reports from other z3 users on how good the game played on their phones it made me start looking for a solution. Pinball arcade and zen really sealed the deal for me about maybe something wasnt quite right though as these 2 games should pose absolutely no problem for any modern device (my vita vetsion side by side looks much smoother) but the ball will stutter every so often too.
If you find a solution i would really like to know what you did as i am new to android and everything ive read to try hasnt helped.
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Possibly it's related to the resolution. The Z3 has 1080 x 1920, whereas the ps vita is only 960 × 544; around a quarter of the size. I do think it's a weakness of modern phones; I'd be a lot happier with a lower resolution. It's not as if the S3 had any problems with its 720 x 1280. I think it's a bit like the megapixel race on DSLRs; bigger is better, and damn the other problems (noise, image size on cameras; speed, battery, asset storage space on phones).
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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shilent said:
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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I think the Sony ROM is running a more conservative setting or something because everything seems to be a little slow on the Z3. Battery saving method on Sony's part I assume.
Probably the kernel tuning. I've noticed it too.
Maybe Sony is more aggressive than LG with the thermal protection in the kernel. Even on the LG G2 if you disabled thermal protection it got rid of any stutters that were there, though not safe in the long run.
Guys do you think they will solve it by android L relase?
It will probably improve a bit because the new OS will be more efficient, and also better battery life.
shilent said:
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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Feel free to chuck up a video of the problem; I'm writing a game, so perhaps I could reproduce it if I had some idea what's causing it.
I remember having this problem with my Droid DNA when the Moto X rocking the same processor was smooth, regardless of framerate. Definitely firmware/video driver/kernel related. It can be most easily witnessed in games with a lot of scrolling or fluid motion, looking like a hitch or frame drop.
poldie said:
Feel free to chuck up a video of the problem; I'm writing a game, so perhaps I could reproduce it if I had some idea what's causing it.
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Thanks. I'll get a video of the Z3 and G2 side by side running Riptide GP2 tonight.
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Ahh yes, i play asphalt 8 quite a bit, and while it doesn't lag, it definitely stutters a ton. I'm coming from an ascend mate 2 and even that runs it a bit better! i'm sure it all comes down to the heat/kernel settings. what's odd is when im playing need for speed, it's extremely smooth, but the phone definitely gets way hotter than it does when i play asphalt 8.
Sorry for the delay. My Canon camera crapped out on me. I ended up having to use my GoPro Hero3. Sorry for the image quality, GoPro sucks bad on everything except outdoor activities.
Top is LG G2 and bottom is Z3.
Edit: Youtube is horrible. I suggest downloading via Dropbox link.
http://youtu.be/8nyAUWBgpoM
Original file via Dropbox: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73364340/Riptide.mp4
In the LG G2 you could disable the Thermal throttling and manually set clock speed for thermal states in Trickster Kernel settings app. I suppose you could do the same here.
What is everyone's performance on GTA San Andreas and Minecraft? For me, Minecraft runs better on the Nexus 6 and GTA San Andreas, while running a lot better than the Nexus 6, crashes after about a minute of gameplay.
I have read that some people experience the same issues, although very few. Even the Messenger basketball game stutters. It ran like this even as soon as it was taken out of the box a couple of days ago, and still nothing has changed. Has anyone else experienced these issues??
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What is everyone's performance on GTA San Andreas and Minecraft? For me, Minecraft runs better on the Nexus 6 and GTA San Andreas, while running a lot better than the Nexus 6, crashes after about a minute of gameplay.
I have read that some people experience the same issues, although very few. Even the Messenger basketball game stutters. It ran like this even as soon as it was taken out of the box a couple of days ago, and still nothing has changed. Has anyone else experienced these issues??
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Exactly the same thing on GTASA. Minecraft frame rate is unacceptable. Real Racing 3 stutters a bit, too. I've seen it playing better on an s6 in a Sprint store. Extremely disappointed with overall gaming performance. What the f***, Quallcom?
Exynos S7 user here. Minecraft frame sucks but GTASA runs fine for me. Still a lot laggy with graphics options set to max.
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Exactly the same thing on GTASA. Minecraft frame rate is unacceptable. Real Racing 3 stutters a bit, too. I've seen it playing better on an s6 in a Sprint store. Extremely disappointed with overall gaming performance. What the f***, Quallcom?
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I feel like we got a bad batch because very few people have this issue
My sprint s7 just received an update that improves gaming. The game doesn't crash at max anymore, bit still lags due to Rock star's horrible optimization.
Weirdly, the HTC One M9 from 2015 runs the game smooth at max. After calculations, I've found that resolution is the problem. The S7 has a resolution on 2560*1440, while the m9 remains at 1920*1080. When pulling everything, including res to max, it lags. To fix this, keep all else at max except for resolution (keep it at 75%, 3/4 off 2560*1440, also known as 1920*1080, what the m9 has. The game is smoother than the m9 now due to the 820's improved gaming, but as known to all chipsets playing GTA: SA, slight frame drops still occur due to a lack of optimization from Rockstar's side. But it does help tremendously.
magicstick5 said:
My sprint s7 just received an update that improves gaming. The game doesn't crash at max anymore, bit still lags due to Rock star's horrible optimization.
Weirdly, the HTC One M9 from 2015 runs the game smooth at max. After calculations, I've found that resolution is the problem. The S7 has a resolution on 2560*1440, while the m9 remains at 1920*1080. When pulling everything, including res to max, it lags. To fix this, keep all else at max except for resolution (keep it at 75%, 3/4 off 2560*1440, also known as 1920*1080, what the m9 has. The game is smoother than the m9 now due to the 820's improved gaming, but as known to all chipsets playing GTA: SA, slight frame drops still occur due to a lack of optimization from Rockstar's side. But it does help tremendously.
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What's the build number?
kykint said:
What's the build number?
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Here it is.
I'm offered a trade, a near-mint condition Z3 for my near-mint condition Huawei P9 Lite.
While I love many things about the P9 Lite, there are things that draw my interest in the Z3, like higher resolution snaps, way better development community, more premium design.
However, having owned the Z1, and furthermore reading up on the web, I am worried about the overheating issues.
I do not plan to record 4K videos a lot, if ever, but I do sometimes shoot pictures and video for an hour or so. I also sometimes play a few games. The Z1 used to overheat quite a bit, and from what I can find online the Z3 does it even more so.
So, dear Z3 owners, please chime in. Let me know your experience with Nougat and overheating.
If anyone has used both the P9 Lite and the Z3, can they please offer their 2 cents as to how these two devices compare?
Thanks
You can only get Nougat on the Z3 by installing a Custom ROM
Besides the fact that OmarElAdawy007 already said (no official Nougat) it seems to vary quite a bit.
I'm on LineageOS and I have no overheating issues most of the time but sometimes it seems to randomly heat up
whilst watching youtube or doing other non-cpu-intense things.
Games or hour long video takes will probably heat the phone up no matter which rom you use. It's the snapdragon processors fault.
If this is priority for you I'd rather not exchange for a Z3.
I've been noticing that games running at 60FPS exhibit very noticeable frame skipping. It's especially noticeable when you have a background scene or object moving across the screen. I've attached two videos showcasing this issue; the first one is noticeable if you focus on the sign in the background, and the second video is noticeable by paying attention to the kitchen benches. The first game doesn't support above 60FPS, while the second does and when I switched to 120Hz the frame skipping is less noticeable but still there.
This issue is also present in other games like Doodle Jump but I chose only two games here because they show the issue much clearer. I tested these same games on my Samsung Galaxy S9+ (Exynos) and they ran completely smooth with no single frame skip.
My device model is ROG Phone 5 and the currently installed firmware version is WW_18.0840.2109.176. Both games ran with X Mode enabled. I'm thinking of trying out a custom kernel but I want to confirm first if this is a hardware issue while my warranty is still intact. Has anyone else experienced this issue?