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Hi Guys,
I have searched high and low for the answer to this one, so I thought I'd give up and ask you guys.
What I need is an Emulator for PPC that I can use on my computer to test downloaded programs before I instal them to my XDA.
The problems are:
Active sync appears to only work with visual .net development suit, which I dont have the money to buy.
Embeded visual C does run a nice emulator, but it wont connect to the active sync and thuse I cant install programmes. There did seem to be a solution in useing the folder option in the above programe to access a Virtual SD card on the computer (shared folder on my drive) but how do I access the programmes?
I would prefer to try these programmes out in a sand pit if I could.
But there doesnt seem to be away.
Please dont flame me if I have missed an earlier thread or some google search... I am new.. I am not worthy... I have no flame retardent underware...
Edy
I don't have an answer for you, (I also would like to do this also!), but I don't believe you will be able to get the eMbedded Emulator to run 'real' apps because these apps are compiled for a CPU target, (usually ARM) and the emulator only runs 8086 compiles.
The emulator is more to test your own source code and it compiles for 8086, and when you are ready, you compile your source for ARM, MIPS, to distribute.
If anyone knows of a Windows based emulator that runs ARM compiled programs, I would LOVE to know about it.
I seem to remember there was a Palm version where you could simply drag and drop programmes into it and test them. Would be nice if that were so for the PPC.
Still noone said life had to be perfect ;-)
Edy
Ya, I came from the Palm world, and they did have an emulator that would allow you to run Palm apps. It wasn’t the great emulation, but it usually was good enough to give you an idea if you even wanted to bother installing it on your ‘real’ device.
Well, maybe there is one for PPC and we just don’t know about it… Anyone???
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has done this.
So the long and the short of this is I need visual .net to be able to run the MS emu... Any here doing that? If so can you tell me if it is possible to install other programs for testing, or will the emu only work with applications you are writing yourself?
There is no such an emulator and making it is extremely difficult. You'll have to completely emulate whole CPU, some hardware and write your own OS just for this "virtual" PocketPC. Noone has
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no it's that that difficult at all sure it takes some time to do
if you look around for emulators many many platforms come as emulated on pc systems like ps2 all the way back to mame
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
Rudegar said:
i have a few friends who just made a whole emulation of the arm cpu on the pc not a pocketpc or windows ce emulator but just pure arm
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Please, can you provide us with a link? I was very interested in such an emulation to test Xanadux stuff without being afraid to render the Himalaya into a brick
Matthias
they are making it because they are embedded software developers
and they are making a project where they are programming to the arm cpu i dont know if they would part with the code but mind you it's no
pocketpc emulator and i doubt it would even support a graphic display apart from text since they dont need it for the project
i'm sure there must be some emulators out there
i mean the stuff in embedded visual c++ and visual studio 2003 and 2005
even if it's not a true emulator then it comes kinda close
embedded visual c++ does have an emulator, but you cant sync it with active sync and therefore you can only test programs that you are developing yourself. There was a posted solution for this involving a null modem cable and two com ports. But my computer only has one com port :-(
Looks like you need to buy Visual Studio .net to get a fully working emulator that can sync with active x and thus test programs....
Hi there,
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this, but I don't think even getting the .NET framework working with Microsofts PPC 2003 emulator will work as a true emulator for the actual device.
I have the emulators for PPC and SmartPhones installed since we are developing applications for mobile (but mostly Java based) phones. So far with our initial test developments, you can only run your own developed applications or applications that are currently being developed and compiled for the emulators. Final compiled applications (for ARM/MIPS) are different from the compiled versions for the emulators and won't work with it. Being like this, the compiled version for the ARM processors will not work with the PPC emulator.
Well, that is just my comment...
Cheers,
Hey, I haven't tried it yet, but this sure sounds like what we have wanted...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/mobility/windowsmobile/downloads/emulatorpreview/default.aspx
Hey, I just tired it, (installing an ARM app) and it works. Cool!
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please.
How do I download that program. or can somebody upload please
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* Visit http://beta.microsoft.com,
* Login using your Passport account, or create one if you don't have one.
* Use Guest ID MSDEVICE to access the Community Preview website
You'll have to create a passport but that shouldn't be a real problem? I tried to upload it to the FTP using upload:upload but it won't let me send the file?
I have to say that this tool / App is one of the best you can find on the Web. I can now emulate the Pocket PC on my PC to trial games / apps first without messing up my XDA2i.
Thanks for the link guys well done!!
Lee
Upload it plz!
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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studdocs said:
can u upload it somewhere? i am unable to download from the MS site!!!
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I assume you installed the Microsoft ActiveX component called "Microsoft File Transfer Manager" right?
It's the requestor that appears just before the download begins... Then press "transfer" to begin the transfer ..
I hope it works for you...
Rayan
It would be helpful if somebody could upload this program, I am having no success after many attempts to download.
Here you go: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/DeviceEmulator050419.msi
(better use a 'normal' FTP client to download)
Is it possible to root phones and use adb or are we waiting for the Surface pro to do that.
you're going to need surface pro (or any x86/64 based hardware) to run adb unless the tools are recompiled for arm and released in the windows store.
adiliyo said:
you're going to need surface pro (or any x86/64 based hardware) to run adb unless the tools are recompiled for arm and released in the windows store.
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How about a virtual environment?
i don't think windows RT can run a virtual environment, but i'm not sure, as i haven't tried to do something like that
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i don't think windows RT can run a virtual environment, but i'm not sure, as i haven't tried to do something like that
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Would be awesome if you could
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you could always have a pc running windows 8 pro then remote desktop to it. the metro rdp client is really cool and support multi touch etc so just like using it on your surface and as its metro you can run side by side etc.
mh some found a way??
it would be really awesome if someone can recompile adb for Win 8 RT.
If someone can tell me how this will work i'll do it. The Software for this i allready have. For developing and for publishing in the Store.
HandyBesitzer said:
mh some found a way??
it would be really awesome if someone can recompile adb for Win 8 RT.
If someone can tell me how this will work i'll do it. The Software for this i allready have. For developing and for publishing in the Store.
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Can't be built in visual studio apparently. Relies on cygwin.
And having the software for developing and publishing in the store is useless. You need the source code which anyone who has the skill to actually do the port can obtain (it is all open source). It isnt something that someone can just tell you how to do, if they could tell you how to do it they would have done it themselves.
not possible on RT. you can't open .exe files (adb.exe, fastboot.exe, ..)..
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not possible on RT. you can't open .exe files (adb.exe, fastboot.exe, ..)..
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Errm, yes you can, you just cant open exe files compiled for x86. You can open exe files for ARM no problem.... adb.exe may be for x86, but your statement was that you cant open an exe file on RT which is entirely false.
ah ok i meant x86 of course sorry for misleading information..
Hi I'm farely new to xda (over on the Rezound forums mostly). Just recently I've been looking into tablets since my laptop died. My friend has this tablet and from what I've seen and read it's a good buy. Since im replacing my laptop with this I'd need to be able to run exe files. Is it possible to root and mod this to be able to run exe files? Or not since this a an android device? Sorry if this is a basic question again I'm new here. Thanks for help in advance
hmmmm, i dont think thats possible. Unless you install a different OS on it. But with pure android OS, i dont think so. EXE is kind of windows specific. But, what app are you trying to install using an EXE file? Im pretty sure there is an android equivelant for the app.
May have problems with it as exe is a program compiled for x86/x64, not ARM. Same reason why Windows RT & Pro aren't the same. Pro runs on x64 and can run normal exe's. RT runs on ARM and can't run native windows programs.
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May have problems with it as exe is a program compiled for x86/x64, not ARM.
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And even if it was compiled for ARM, it won't run on Android. EXE is an Windows executable and depends on the Windows runtime libraries.
It would be nice to see someone developer a full blown version of Wine for Android, or if companies like Codeweavers can make CrossOver for Android to allow the use of .exe Windows applications.
I know this is not impossible and very possible if Android is really just a Google controlled version of Linux.
My first and only paid $ purchase of Linux was Xandros 2.0 desktop OS, and one of that OS main selling features was that it had Crossover integrated into it. I could download .exe's and install them on Xandros and run Windows apps. :laugh:
You're looking at two different processor architectures on two different operating systems. You would need a whole lot more than just a crossover/wine for Android. Consider purchasing the Asus Vivo Tab (not the Vivo Tab RT) if you have to run .NET/win32/WinRT executables. Also consider if android has equivalent apps that suit your needs. What kind of Windows programs do you use?
Update:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.max2idea.android.limbo.main&hl=en
If you ran this, installed Trinux on it and ran wine/crossover (provided they even support Trinux) you MIGHT have a chance at running windows apps. But it will likely be insanely slow.
The other option is to buy a new server, install Windows Server 2008/Server 2008 R2, buy a router that supports VPN, get a really good internet service (preferably with symmetrical data rates), buy the XTraLogic RDP app for android, tunnel into your VPN from your android device, set up terminal services on Windows Server, buy one Terminal Services Client Access License, configure RemoteApp in terminal services and run the apps using XTraLogic RDP on your android from your windows server. You would have to keep the server running 24/7.
My point being, even if you could pull this off, it would be incredibly impractical. Consider alternatives, like equivalent apps for Android or an X86 tablet.
this post is relevant
Hey, guys! I want to emulate Mac OS X 10.9 in my Moto X... Just a few questions:
1-I read that emulators are not virtual machines.. what's the difference between them?
2-There's an emulator/virtual machine for android that runs better and faster than Bochs?
3-There's an way to acess the internet and listen audio in the emulator?
Thank You and sorry about the english because i'm brazilian...
pedrocarboni said:
Hey, guys! I want to emulate Mac OS X 10.9 in my Moto X... Just a few questions:
1-I read that emulators are not virtual machines.. what's the difference between them?
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You are correct in that they are different, but are very closely related. Emulators are programs that allow you to run programs from one CPU instruction set on another. For example, Intel and AMD CPU's run the x86 instruction set, while most phones and tablets use the ARM instruction set. An emulator will let you run x86 code on an ARM system, or the other way around. Unfortunately, other hardware has to have special support (video card, sound card, networking). It can also run x86 code on an x86 system. This is useful to run two operating systems on one computer at a type (such as Windows and Linux, MacOS and Windows, etc.).
A Virtual Machine is probably best explained by using the Java language as an example. When you write a Java program and compile it, it turns the readable code into something called "bytecode". Its similar to x86 and ARM in the sense that it breaks down instructions into the simplest possible form, however, its for a computer that doesn't exist, a "virtual" computer. The system is designed so a program called a "Virtual Machine" can easily run the instructions on any computer, no matter if its running on an x86 computer, or ARM computer, or is running Windows, Linux, MacOS, or Android.
2-There's an emulator/virtual machine for android that runs better and faster than Bochs?
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Unfortunately I don't know. However, I think that most Android devices would have difficulty emulating MacOS since they have very limited CPU and RAM resources.
3-There's an way to acess the internet and listen audio in the emulator?
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This depends on the emulator, but most definitely. For example, the Virtualbox x86 emulator provides devices to the emulated system to do just this.
Thank You and sorry about the english because i'm brazilian...
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Your English is quite good. No need to apologize for it . I hope I was of some help.
nhakobian said:
You are correct in that they are different, but are very closely related. Emulators are programs that allow you to run programs from one CPU instruction set on another. For example, Intel and AMD CPU's run the x86 instruction set, while most phones and tablets use the ARM instruction set. An emulator will let you run x86 code on an ARM system, or the other way around. Unfortunately, other hardware has to have special support (video card, sound card, networking). It can also run x86 code on an x86 system. This is useful to run two operating systems on one computer at a type (such as Windows and Linux, MacOS and Windows, etc.).
A Virtual Machine is probably best explained by using the Java language as an example. When you write a Java program and compile it, it turns the readable code into something called "bytecode". Its similar to x86 and ARM in the sense that it breaks down instructions into the simplest possible form, however, its for a computer that doesn't exist, a "virtual" computer. The system is designed so a program called a "Virtual Machine" can easily run the instructions on any computer, no matter if its running on an x86 computer, or ARM computer, or is running Windows, Linux, MacOS, or Android.
Unfortunately I don't know. However, I think that most Android devices would have difficulty emulating MacOS since they have very limited CPU and RAM resources.
This depends on the emulator, but most definitely. For example, the Virtualbox x86 emulator provides devices to the emulated system to do just this.
Your English is quite good. No need to apologize for it . I hope I was of some help.
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Hey guy! Thank you so much for the help! I thought it was the same thing...
Anyway, I already saw Bochs emulating Windows 7 without lag on the Samsung Galaxy S5..
Thank you!
hmmm....try limbo...
How can I convert an exe file to apk?
nikste4 said:
How can I convert an exe file to apk?
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You can't. .exe is a Microsoft DOS / Windows executable. Android is a Linux based OS. The runtime environments aren't compatible so you can't just "convert" it.
Do you need to run a specific program under Android? May be there is a similar program you can use.
It is not possible.
Bad news. Android cannot be used like a windows emulator.
For someone who knows what an apk is, it's rather strange you didn't know this isn't possible. Like the other users have mentioned Android and Windows are completely different. Are you wanting Microsoft Office? Microsoft has released touch versions of Office for Android but it won't be completely full-fledged like what you get on Windows.
no you cant convert exe file to apk
these two files totally run on two different platforms/devices
the encoding is totally different