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I feel that everything in the stock rom is unnecessarily big. I tried changing the resolution but it made my hardware navigation keys useless.
changing the dpi solved that problem.
i wanted to know know the difference between the two. And also suggestion on which one should i prefer changing.
p.s. isn't dpi a hardware thing? how can an app change that?
thanks in advance.
just change your dpi
ab014 said:
I feel that everything in the stock rom is unnecessarily big. I tried changing the resolution but it madyo hardware navigation keys useless.
changing the dpi solved that problem.
i wanted to know know the difference between the two. And also suggestion on which one should i prefer changing.
p.s. isn't dpi a hardware thing? how can an app change that?
thanks in advance.
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Use this app called Dpi changer that's available in the playstore.. Change it to 180 or 190 and reboot your phone.. The higher the value the bigger your icons will be.. Easy! :good:
I am trying to change the DPI with:
adb shell wm density 300
the above works correctly. but anything lower, the screen continuously flickers and is unusable.
for example, can't get the following to work:
adb shell wm density 200
any suggestions?
once we get root, this becomes very easy!!! thanks.
why would someone change the density from 480 (stock set in build.prop) to 200? i think its too low density,that all icons and text will be too small.
200 may be too low, but i like to see more contents on the screen. may be 300 is optimal.
Do you have any luck with this? When I change to 320 the navbar is blank in landscape.
ok, i am able to change the lcd density to 360 without issues.
anything less than 300 (say 280), the screen keeps flickering and it is unusable. don't know why.
deepasadish said:
ok, i am able to change the lcd density to 360 without issues.
anything less than 300 (say 280), the screen keeps flickering and it is unusable. don't know why.
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maybe, because it too low?
DallasCZ said:
maybe, because it too low?
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Lol. With my nexus 4 I was able to go up to 160 IIRC.
deepasadish said:
Lol. With my nexus 4 I was able to go up to 160 IIRC.
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I dont know what is IIRc, but the DPI of nexus 4 is 318 so going to 160 is 50%.
Idol3 has 403 so 200 is below 50% (anyway in build.prom is dPI set to 480 ). I think its too low res and the system is nod made for such low res. It simly dont know how to handle it.
Just my opinion.
DallasCZ said:
I dont know what is IIRc, but the DPI of nexus 4 is 318 so going to 160 is 50%.
Idol3 has 403 so 200 is below 50% (anyway in build.prom is dPI set to 480 ). I think its too low res and the system is nod made for such low res. It simly dont know how to handle it.
Just my opinion.
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you may be right. i am hoping with CM ROM (and good kernel) it may go all the way. for now i am satisfied with 340.
btw, chrome just doesn't go into tablet UI even at 300.
ps. IIRC - if i recall correctly. thanks.
deepasadish said:
you may be right. i am hoping with CM ROM (and good kernel) it may go all the way. for now i am satisfied with 340.
btw, chrome just doesn't go into tablet UI even at 300.
ps. IIRC - if i recall correctly. thanks.
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how does look the syste mlike in 340DPI? it must be unreadable
deepasadish said:
I am trying to change the DPI with:
adb shell wm density 300
the above works correctly. but anything lower, the screen continuously flickers and is unusable.
for example, can't get the following to work:
adb shell wm density 200
any suggestions?
once we get root, this becomes very easy!!! thanks.
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I totally forgot about this command to change DPI! I am so glad you posted this. I was about to root my phone just so I could change DPI. I hate big icons and text. I will end up rooting anyway but this way I don't have to eff with the build.prop as some people have said causes issues with this phone. I set mine to 360 which is perfect... Nova launcher will help me optimize from there
Thanks
DallasCZ said:
how does look the syste mlike in 340DPI? it must be unreadable
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not really. just try it out - you have nothing to lose and you can easily revert back.
once you get used to the increased screen real estate, you will never go back.
sort of reminds me when I went from 1024x768 to 1280x1024 resolution on some monitor some 15+ years ago.
I experimented at 360 and 400. Both looked good. No strange behavior in the short time I used each of them. I'm not sure what I'll do. I liked 400 a little better than 360. But I might live with the stock 480, too, even though for some things, I preferred the lower dpi. It is like going to higher resolution on a computer monitor and this screen is big enough to benefit.
ROM Toolbox is good for these kinds of edits, though direct editing of build.props is easy enough. Make a backup of that file before you edit it.
Navbar in Landscape
deepasadish said:
you may be right. i am hoping with CM ROM (and good kernel) it may go all the way. for now i am satisfied with 340.
btw, chrome just doesn't go into tablet UI even at 300.
ps. IIRC - if i recall correctly. thanks.
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Does your navbar work properly in landscape at 340? Mine won't work at 320, it's blank.
dbjungle said:
Does your navbar work properly in landscape at 340? Mine won't work at 320, it's blank.
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yes, works at 340.
maigre said:
I experimented at 360 and 400. Both looked good. No strange behavior in the short time I used each of them. I'm not sure what I'll do. I liked 400 a little better than 360. But I might live with the stock 480, too, even though for some things, I preferred the lower dpi. It is like going to higher resolution on a computer monitor and this screen is big enough to benefit.
ROM Toolbox is good for these kinds of edits, though direct editing of build.props is easy enough. Make a backup of that file before you edit it.
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Once xposed framework is working on the Alcatel Idol 3 you can use the "app settings" module to allow per app dpi settings.
Was searching a little but couldn't find an answer to this. I'm interested in this phone, I was able to play with it a little, but really, the dpi is too high for a 6" screen. Would be interesting to know if/how a 400/420dpi works on this device. Thanks!
I was just going to ask the same thing actually. Last night I started messing with it but it's very weird. For one, there are two DPI lines in build.prop, which you seem to have to change both of to get any kind of change. I have them now at 400 with the view mode set to small, and it's too small. But, the weird thing is, anything over 410 is too big. It doesn't change like a normal phone does. I have a feeling the "view mode" changes shell density instead of DPI and causes some weirdness. I may mess around with some shell density commands later today to get it just right. Anyone know what the stock shell density is?
loudog3114 said:
I was just going to ask the same thing actually. Last night I started messing with it but it's very weird. For one, there are two DPI lines in build.prop, which you seem to have to change both of to get any kind of change. I have them now at 400 with the view mode set to small, and it's too small. But, the weird thing is, anything over 410 is too big. It doesn't change like a normal phone does. I have a feeling the "view mode" changes shell density instead of DPI and causes some weirdness. I may mess around with some shell density commands later today to get it just right. Anyone know what the stock shell density is?
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Can you try Neo Density app? I don't know if it works ok with the Mate8, but I used it on phones where changing the dpi was a little problematic.
Yup. I'm at 320 with the small stock settings too
albireox said:
Can you try Neo Density app? I don't know if it works ok with the Mate8, but I used it on phones where changing the dpi was a little problematic.
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I did, that just changes the typical ro.sf.lcd_density= value. The best I have found is that if you drop that value to 400, the "small" view mode goes to extra small. But changing the value to anything lower than 400 has no effect (I tried as low as 290) and anything over 410 seems to also have no effect on stock.
loudog3114 said:
I did, that just changes the typical ro.sf.lcd_density= value. The best I have found is that if you drop that value to 400, the "small" view mode goes to extra small. But changing the value to anything lower than 400 has no effect (I tried as low as 290) and anything over 410 seems to also have no effect on stock.
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I guess it's ok with dpi400, should be much better than the stock. How the stock Huawei apps are scaled?
albireox said:
I guess it's ok with dpi400, should be much better than the stock. How the stock Huawei apps are scaled?
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400 is very very small. I have 20/20 vision and love a lower dpi, but I think its too small to use on a daily basis at a typical viewing distance. Especially in the dark. I went back to stock for now.
Mostly everything scales fine, but there are weird issues as if we had used wm shell density to change the density vs build.prop. Some text/icons are cut off by the item below it in the notification panel, and backgrounds dont scale properly when swiping through home screens. Not a huge deal, but just common issues when using wm shell density, even though I didn't.
I'm on 366 dpi. Let the stock dpi setting at large then change the dpi in build.prop. The stock will change automatically after reboot to medium. For the quick toggles add this lines to build.prop : ro.config.toolbox_port_column=3
ro.config.toolbox_port_row=3
ro.config.toolbox_land_column=4
ro.config.toolbox_land_row=2
Only one issue exists, if dpi is to low the notification drop down will show the recycle bin in the middle of the screen, so it will use the half space. If u have some notification u must scroll them
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dlorean said:
I'm on 366 dpi. Let the stock dpi setting at large then change the dpi in build.prop. The stock will change automatically after reboot to medium. For the quick toggles add this lines to build.prop : ro.config.toolbox_port_column=3
ro.config.toolbox_port_row=3
ro.config.toolbox_land_column=4
ro.config.toolbox_land_row=2
Only one issue exists, if dpi is to low the notification drop down will show the recycle bin in the middle of the screen, so it will use the half space. If u have some notification u must scroll them
Huawei Mate 8 L29~B162 using Tapatalk
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Can you post a screen shot? I have a feeling yours is probably the same that I was able to achieve.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngM0ZXTS1HVDdjRkk/view?usp=docslist_api
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngMmZRdlhvVkhQc0k/view?usp=docslist_api
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngLVdFdnIyWXlOaGc/view?usp=docslist_api
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dlorean said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngM0ZXTS1HVDdjRkk/view?usp=docslist_api
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngMmZRdlhvVkhQc0k/view?usp=docslist_api
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngLVdFdnIyWXlOaGc/view?usp=docslist_api
Huawei Mate 8 L29~B162 using Tapatalk
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Can you show the desktop? Trying to compare my status bar to yours. Mine was TINY.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngbjl6T2FSOTllblU/view?usp=docslist_api
If u change dpi with the stock changer and then in the build.prop, u get a tiny status bar. Stay on large view and then change dpi in build.prop. Wasted some time with testing to find this out
Huawei Mate 8 L29~B162 using Tapatalk
dlorean said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngbjl6T2FSOTllblU/view?usp=docslist_api
If u change dpi with the stock changer and then in the build.prop, u get a tiny status bar. Stay on large view and then change dpi in build.prop. Wasted some time with testing to find this out
Huawei Mate 8 L29~B162 using Tapatalk
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Yeah that's about what I got when I was doing 400 dpi and small view mode. Whats really odd is that, unlike any other phone I have had, if you bump the DPI up by 5 or 10, you don't get the minor increase in size you would expect. It just stays the same until it makes a massive change in size.
dlorean said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngbjl6T2FSOTllblU/view?usp=docslist_api
If u change dpi with the stock changer and then in the build.prop, u get a tiny status bar. Stay on large view and then change dpi in build.prop. Wasted some time with testing to find this out
Huawei Mate 8 L29~B162 using Tapatalk
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Absolutely love your icon pack. Is it stock or downloaded?
Odesláno z mého SM-N910F pomocí Tapatalk
Is it possible to change the DPI without root ? i want tablet mode. i've tried with adb but it does not work...
Thanks
Boosik said:
Absolutely love your icon pack. Is it stock or downloaded?
Odesláno z mého SM-N910F pomocí Tapatalk
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It's from play store, name is rotox. Using it with nova launcher.
Huawei Mate 8 L29~B162 using Tapatalk
loudog3114 said:
Yeah that's about what I got when I was doing 400 dpi and small view mode. Whats really odd is that, unlike any other phone I have had, if you bump the DPI up by 5 or 10, you don't get the minor increase in size you would expect. It just stays the same until it makes a massive change in size.
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The stock changer and build.prop disturb each other. It's a nice feature from Huawei, but poorly implemented
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I've edited build.prop directly after installing Rom. Only the ro.lcd.density to 320 and it works like a charm. The display setting changed to small automatically after reboot.
pappschlumpf said:
I've edited build.prop directly after installing Rom. Only the ro.lcd.density to 320 and it works like a charm. The display setting changed to small automatically after reboot.
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I did 320 but lost one handed mode. Bumped it up to 380, got one hand mode back, and it is the same size on small.
Now I'm back to B152 because of this
B162 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngLVdFdnIyWXlOaGc/view?usp=docslist_api
B152 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7TwALBor0ngWXVqNmcySUZkdWs/view?usp=docslist_api
Both at 367dpi
What's going wrong with the programming for different countries?
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wm size 2160x3840
wm density 640
All it s fine .i dont have any issue !
Is this real 4k now that we have marshmellow? I remember somebody saying it wasn't true 4k just by changing the density.
Also how is the 4k support with apps? Vr? And moonlight game streaming in 4k? kinda been waiting for this ever since the 4k display was announced but I can't test it until later this week.
Also I'd suggest hiding away that status and navigation bar and using an app called "simple control" .. Thers a simple command on adb to hide them. it really helps free your screen lol
tried it, having serious problems with swiftkey! It seems to be super-zoomed, only 3 buttons visible. Tried deleting it's cache.
Any suggestion?
You will have issues changing the DPI and the WM size... also the resolution is locked in the kernel, what you're doing is emulating 4K resolution....
Battery life will suffer and the device will get warm under normal load.... stick with 1080p and 320dpi , much better in my opinion
thank you, that makes sense!
Tried 320dpi right now, swiftkey still makes probs...
Interesting observation about this with DPI of 640 - the stock launcher now allows you to enable auto-rotate in the options menu. It doesn't allow you when running stock DPI or stock resolution. This leads me to assume this is the same launcher software as is running on the Xperia tablets too.
Xeon said:
You will have issues changing the DPI and the WM size... also the resolution is locked in the kernel, what you're doing is emulating 4K resolution....
Battery life will suffer and the device will get warm under normal load.... stick with 1080p and 320dpi , much better in my opinion
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I go for 280dpi myself. May I ask why you go with 320dpi?
jplempka said:
I go for 280dpi myself. May I ask why you go with 320dpi?
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I go for 320 dpi because I get extra space for icons 7 vs 5 vertically and I get much bigger visual space ( chrome / whatsapp ) etc.
Anything below that gives me trouble. And if you want to change your dpi you better do it in 120 steps or 180 steps ( 0 - 160- 320 -480 etc.. ) as apps seem to offer the best compatibility ( Android rule )
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I go for 320 dpi because I get extra space for icons 7 vs 5 vertically and I get much bigger visual space ( chrome / whatsapp ) etc.
Anything below that gives me trouble. And if you want to change your dpi you better do it in 120 steps or 180 steps ( 0 - 160- 320 -480 etc.. ) as apps seem to offer the best compatibility ( Android rule )
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Ah ok, thanks, but 280 hasn't given me any compatibility problems with any apps (so far).
I agree with the 1080 and 320dpi. Device runs much smoother and doesn't get anywhere near as hot but still gives me the screen real-estate I was after.
Thanks
NJ72 said:
I agree with the 1080 and 320dpi. Device runs much smoother and doesn't get anywhere near as hot but still gives me the screen real-estate I was after.
Thanks
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So what then is the default DPI? As I have not altered anything and now certain Xposed modules do not work on MM, so I am left with a dodgy layout that does not give me a great deal of space and I prefer the stock launcher.
I agree with 320,but one major problem is the incoming call screen is distorted. Try locking the device and recieve an incoming call.
I have tried all dpi and all resolutions like 2k and 4k. Nothing works expect stock 1080p and 480dpi
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So what then is the default DPI? As I have not altered anything and now certain Xposed modules do not work on MM, so I am left with a dodgy layout that does not give me a great deal of space and I prefer the stock launcher.
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Default DPI is 480
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I agree with 320dpi,but one major problem is the incoming call screen is distorted. Try locking the device and recieve an incoming call.
I have tried all dpi and all resolutions like 2k and 4k. Nothing works expect stock 1080p and 480dpi
how about instagram. anyone having issue?
How about unlocking the bootloader and changing DPI on build.prop. Does it fix all the glitches? 320 seems to be small. I prefer 400
now...with 6.0.1 screenshoots are in 4k!
herasymcuk said:
now...with 6.0.1 screenshoots are in 4k!
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What about battery life? How much SOT? And smoothness?
I've been using 380 DPI @ 1080, no issues with anything that I notice.
Changed to 4K, had problems with clock showing in bar at top of screen with
wm 800
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wm 640
Hey there. How did you manage to have 6 apps in home bar? Thanks.
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now...with 6.0.1 screenshoots are in 4k!
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I also noticed that.
But they seems to be an anti-aliased version of a full HD resolution.
I took a detail of a Chrome website screenshot in 4K and downscaled it to 1080 and here's the result:
Has anyone changed their phones DPI through build prop? What are some safe values?
I'll be posting a guide on how to do this soon, if you keep an eye out
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404 on my Flex 2.
Use le dpi changer from play store and check"use wm shell" .
Works for any number of dpi , but lg apps will work only for dpi >400.
I am using 400 as the physical density of the screen is 403. LG got it wrong.
jmd.desai08 said:
Use le dpi changer from play store and check"use wm shell" .
Works for any number of dpi , but lg apps will work only for dpi >400.
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This is a bad idea, because changing DPI through "wm shell density" breaks quite a few apps.
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I'll be posting a guide on how to do this soon, if you keep an eye out
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A guide for changing a single line in build.prop?
Offtopic: I´d really like to meet that guy who decided that displaying less content on a 5,5" Flex 2 than on most 4,5" phones from other manufacturers is a good idea. If it weren´t possible to fix the DPI, I would have returned the phone the day I bought it.
jmd.desai08 said:
Use le dpi changer from play store and check"use wm shell" .
Works for any number of dpi , but lg apps will work only for dpi >400.
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what about quick settings icons? they got even bigger than before, everything else got smaller..
They get smaller with everything else
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They get smaller with everything else
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Yeah, with dpi lower than 400 with texdroider dpi , they got smaller too. But with le dpi changer and dpi over 400 quicksetting icons got even bigger than default ones and text were misplaced.
My phone is on 400 dpi(changed with le dpi changer shell wm ) , everything is smaller and no text misplace (i m on gf2 mods 4.7)
Have you checked shell wm ?
jmd.desai08 said:
My phone is on 400 dpi(changed with le dpi changer shell wm ) , everything is smaller and no text misplace (i m on gf2 mods 4.7)
Have you checked shell wm ?
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of course, without checking it, that app doesnt work. Can you post your quicksettings screenshot?
What is the difference between using these apps and just modifying the build.prop? I did modify build.prop and am quite pleased with the results, even though in 2-3 apps the text placement is a little odd.
IxBUSTERxI said:
What is the difference between using these apps and just modifying the build.prop? I did modify build.prop and am quite pleased with the results, even though in 2-3 apps the text placement is a little odd.
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because of apps
Here you go @le grande magnetto
https://goo.gl/photos/phveyrV5R7ijARAx9