I picked up the AKG N20NC in-ears a few months ago, partially because the remote has a switch that makes it compatible with iOS (I have an iPad Air 2, be gentle) and Android (Tmobile Galaxy S7, stock and unrooted). But I found out a few weeks later that the + volume sometimes would actually lower the volume. AKG's Twitter support surmised it was a defective pair, so I returned it to the store & bought another a week or two later (serial number is only a few off from the first pair, d'oh) and still have the same problem. It's completely random and it will usually resolve itself after 30 seconds or so. I downloaded Android Remote Tester and can see that + sometimes is recognized as -. It then randomly rights itself, until the next time--whenever that is.
I'll deal with AKG Support again but I was wondering if anyone here had some technical insight into this issue. I know Apple uses (used) one configuration for the jack, and Android phones...use more than one. My Sennheiser Momentum Android models work flawlessly on my S7 , and I never had problems with the Xiaomi Pistons. So why would the AKGs have this sudden problem? I know 3-button Android remotes are rare, perhaps the different configurations is a reason why. I remember I had a Sennheiser active headphone for a bit and the remote didn't work with my LG G2, despite being labeled for Android.
I really want to keep these so I have a pair of NCs to use in warmer weather and for when I don't want to carry around my Momentum 2 AEBTs.
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I picked up the AKG N20NC in-ears a few months ago, partially because the remote has a switch that makes it compatible with iOS (I have an iPad Air 2, be gentle) and Android (Tmobile Galaxy S7, stock and unrooted). But I found out a few weeks later that the + volume sometimes would actually lower the volume. AKG's Twitter support surmised it was a defective pair, so I returned it to the store & bought another a week or two later (serial number is only a few off from the first pair, d'oh) and still have the same problem. It's completely random and it will usually resolve itself after 30 seconds or so. I downloaded Android Remote Tester and can see that + sometimes is recognized as -. It then randomly rights itself, until the next time--whenever that is.
I'll deal with AKG Support again but I was wondering if anyone here had some technical insight into this issue. I know Apple uses (used) one configuration for the jack, and Android phones...use more than one. My Sennheiser Momentum Android models work flawlessly on my S7 , and I never had problems with the Xiaomi Pistons. So why would the AKGs have this sudden problem? I know 3-button Android remotes are rare, perhaps the different configurations is a reason why. I remember I had a Sennheiser active headphone for a bit and the remote didn't work with my LG G2, despite being labeled for Android.
I really want to keep these so I have a pair of NCs to use in warmer weather and for when I don't want to carry around my Momentum 2 AEBTs.
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Seems like it's a hardware flaw in the volume rocker/switch. I've experienced this, usually because the rocker/switch is poorly designed such that, for example, when you press volume +, the components in the switch actuate in a manner that it actually presses the volume -.
I've noticed on some of these types of rockers/switches, if you carefully press at the extreme ends of the rocker/switch, it registers correctly. Placing your finger on the center of the rocker/switch and pressing one way or the other can actually accidently place the pressure on the wrong side of the rocker/switch that what you intended.
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Seems like it's a hardware flaw in the volume rocker/switch. I've experienced this, usually because the rocker/switch is poorly designed such that, for example, when you press volume +, the components in the switch actuate in a manner that it actually presses the volume -.
I've noticed on some of these types of rockers/switches, if you carefully press at the extreme ends of the rocker/switch, it registers correctly. Placing your finger on the center of the rocker/switch and pressing one way or the other can actually accidently place the pressure on the wrong side of the rocker/switch that what you intended.
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That's something I was messing around with while I was in Android Headset Tester, and IIRC, even the extreme top end of the + button would still be interpreted as a - press. The issue will go away after maybe 30 seconds, and no telling when or if it will come back. Also odd that a - press wouldn't then be interpreted as a + press, I've tried the minus button whenever this issue pops up and it always works as intended. It's just Up volume.
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That's something I was messing around with while I was in Android Headset Tester, and IIRC, even the extreme top end of the + button would still be interpreted as a - press. The issue will go away after maybe 30 seconds, and no telling when or if it will come back. Also odd that a - press wouldn't then be interpreted as a + press, I've tried the minus button whenever this issue pops up and it always works as intended. It's just Up volume.
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It would be hard for me to imagine it being a software thing so it has to be an issue with hardware. How or why is another question.
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Since this is my first android phone I'm not sure which earbuds or headphones to pick up that I can use with inline controls for it? Thanks for the help
of the few headphones ive tried, they were all designed for iphones, so the mic would work, but none of the other controls.
only way is to test it and return it, or read reviews.
There have been a few other threads about bluetooth headsets and voice control. I think there is a missing app on this phone that would handle the incoming bluetooth controls. Currently when i push mine, nothing happens. Found a possible fix for this today. When i get home, i will try it out and post confirmation.
I have a pair of Beats Tour with ControlTalk built inline (not my normal choice of earphones... but bought them for very cheap off a friend who didn't want them!).
It seems they are primarily designed for the iPhone. There is a rocker switch (possibly for volume on the iPhone?) and also a button in the middle. There's also a microphone on the inline switches.
The microphone works fine, as does the one middle button. There is no response from the rocker (I have tried headphone keymapping apps available on the Market, to no joy). It's not such a big deal though as my primary music player is PlayerPro, which you can asign multiple clicks or click and hold etc. to do different functions. For example, one click pauses, another single click unpauses, double click skips track, triple click skips one back, press and hold to cycle through volume etc. - it's not ideal, and I'd love to have that rocker switch working, but I think it's the best it can do.
The single button works fine for accepting and ending calls, too.
I assume this setup would be the same for 3-button iPhone headset, and any of them would work in a similar way to the Beats Tour.
Try the Klipsch S4a's. I had the S4i's for my iPhone that I just replaced today (battery was unbearable after 3 years of use). The difference between the two is the microchip in the inline controller. Otherwise they have the same driver (and same good sound). I'm just upset I'll have to break a new set in
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Try the Klipsch S4a's. I had the S4i's for my iPhone that I just replaced today (battery was unbearable after 3 years of use). The difference between the two is the microchip in the inline controller. Otherwise they have the same driver (and same good sound). I'm just upset I'll have to break a new set in
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I haven't tried the Klipsch S4a's myself, but I have a friend who swears by them. I've just never wanted to spend the $$ because I beat up my headphones commuting on the train everyday, plus I need something loud and tinny so I can hear podcasts over the train noise (and I wont do over-the-ears). ironically, crappy phones work fro me so I just use a pair of $6 HTC phones from amazon that were marketed for the vivid and thunderbolt (and probably every other HTC phone popular at the time prior to those two...)
When I use a wired headset, people are hearing themselves echo back. I'm running moar Rom, but I'm not sure if its related to the Rom. I've used the original headset and several aftermarket headsets with the same results. When the headset is disconnected, the conversation goes back to normal. I don't here the echo on my end. Anybody else have this problem with the s5?
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Anyone?? Blue tooth works fine. All my wired headsets are echoing back to the person on the other end of the line. I found out that its not the Rom, by loading the stock Rom back on the phone, with the same results. This leads me to belief that its a hardware problem with the headset jack, possibly.
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An update on my wired headphone echo problem. I think I can trace it to the volume level. If my volume level is set to high, the person on the other end gets the echo. It happens with every wired headset that I have. I'm not sure if its leakage occurring within the phone or the headset. My suspicions are the headset wires don't have any shielding between the Mic and speaker wires. Its either there or within the phone itself. When I turn down the volume the problem goes away for the person on the other end. Bluetooth works fine.
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An update on my wired headphone echo problem. I think I can trace it to the volume level. If my volume level is set to high, the person on the other end gets the echo. It happens with every wired headset that I have. I'm not sure if its leakage occurring within the phone or the headset. My suspicions are the headset wires don't have any shielding between the Mic and speaker wires. Its either there or within the phone itself. When I turn down the volume the problem goes away for the person on the other end. Bluetooth works fine.
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This was exactly the solution I needed for both wired and speakerphone usage, and just wanted to post to let you know how appreciative I am of your self-resolved solo-thread! There are many similar complaints all over the net about the S2's echo problem--with numerous nonsensical fixes and/or warranty-voiding solutions, but nothing remotely helpful regarding the S5. Of all the solutions I came across, not one person mentioned simply turning down the volume!
As a previous owner of the S2, I never had any of the troubles stated by many users, partially because the ICS OS was so clean and easy to optimize. The S5 is another matter entirely; after countless hours and days of immersion in KitKat, I had no clue what of the million one Touchwiz bloatware apps and options was the culprit. Or if it was just a hardware flaw. There was no way in hell I was going to get a replacement for a mere echo since too many hours were already sunk into reconfiguring and installing backed up applications (for a second time), and I was already using a hard-won replacement due to some bizarre problem where the original phone bricked itself.
Nevertheless, the echo wasn't an issue at all at the beginning, but after optimizing and customizing ad nauseam, I gradually discovered that call quality was never consistent for my wired handset, wired headset, wired headphones, a splitter setup, and with the speakerphone. Sometimes others complained, other times they didn't. And after a while--where circumstances forced me to keep the volume setting on maximum all the time, the echo problem, along with a deluge of relevant complaints, became a constant whenever the phone wasn't radiating my head. (Despite the current "safe" SAR info out there, this S5 model is still dangerously high for me as my face will experience numbness when pressed up against the device for extended talk time .)
With the sheer amount variables to test, the prospect of bothering others to double check call quality, and the added frustration of communication-imposed radiation, this simple conclusion would have taken me a long time to resolve on my own.
Many thanks for posting!
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An update on my wired headphone echo problem. I think I can trace it to the volume level. If my volume level is set to high, the person on the other end gets the echo. It happens with every wired headset that I have. I'm not sure if its leakage occurring within the phone or the headset. My suspicions are the headset wires don't have any shielding between the Mic and speaker wires. Its either there or within the phone itself. When I turn down the volume the problem goes away for the person on the other end. Bluetooth works fine.
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This work for me, THANK YOU!
What The F*@k?!?!?
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This work for me, THANK YOU!
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The solution is to turn down the volume? Nice free solution brother! This has been driving my wife and I nuts whenever I am driving in Chicago (hands free or ticket, land) using my wired headset. the only downside is my hearing isn't what it used to be...dare I say I may need to go iPhone if Galaxy doesn't get their act straight. Hmmm, I wonder if this issue has been noticed and fixed on the Edge? Thanks again for the only REAL solution I can find on the web.
Echo in headphones~
Another thing to try might me to put your phone in TTY VCO mode. I find the echo goes away and you can keep your volume as well. Let me know if that works for you.
I know this an old thread, but I *just* started having this problem. The earbuds that came with my phone don't have this issue, but one side just quit working so I ordered new earbuds... I have ordered and returned 2 sets of random earbuds, so I finally ordered the OEM earbuds, assuming they would work (since my original ones do). Just got them today and the person on the other end can hear themselves. It's so strange. How is it that 3 pairs of earbuds produce the same issue, yet the original ones work fine (except for the fact that I can now hear out of only one side)?!?
Since the new OEM earbuds didn't solve my problem, I started looking online for a solution. I am a freelance web developer and have to talk to multiple clients regularly and it's nice to be able to have my hands free since I usually need to be on my computer/their website when speaking with them. This is so frustrating -- I just turned off the noise isolation function, I will try turning down the call volume.
Thanks for the suggestion @Xalky
Looking at potentially buying this phone in the future but I'm curious to see if it can be done or has anyone been able to successfully remove it yet?
Anticipating the answer :S
If that's you only worry about Europe and its laws you are one lucky person.
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Best way to remove it is to turn your volume up, and when it asks you the question, press ok.
Then if you don't reboot the phone it won't ask you again.
I have to admit though, the poor volume of the S8 as well as most Android phones barring HTC, makes the cap irrelevant because if anyone hurts their ears listening to music through an S8+ they had broken ears already haha.
Wait, EU is responsible for that feature? Those f.....s
no....as long as it's a law
Gotta love the EU - controlling A$$ holes
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Wait, EU is responsible for that feature? Those f.....s
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sorry for the late reply, yep, good old EU, it effects all audio devices in the UK and europe, even the high end ones, it's always a issue for me especially when i am choosing a new phone and being able to root and remove it.
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Best way to remove it is to turn your volume up, and when it asks you the question, press ok.
Then if you don't reboot the phone it won't ask you again.
I have to admit though, the poor volume of the S8 as well as most Android phones barring HTC, makes the cap irrelevant because if anyone hurts their ears listening to music through an S8+ they had broken ears already haha.
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lol no that is not how you remove it, if it was that easy i would be able to do that on any device, no matter if the volume is turned up or not the volume cap will still reduce the volume no matter what, the only way to remove it permanently is via root, i still have my note 4 with root and the volume cap removed + custom rom with better audio i don't think i could ever part with it tbh, the S8 and S8+ are new so i guess it's the waiting game for now.
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the nanny state and all, i can't stand the EU, what gives them the right to think for us really, what next? a timer on all tvs to turn off at a certain day so we are ready for bed? it's really is stupid.
furthermore with the recent news about the note 8 maybe it's best to wait for that phone instead, i'm more than patient to wait anyway, no rush, hopefully that will get rooted and the volume cap removed maybe.
but if either phone doesn't get root & EU volume cap removed i could always go back to legacy devices like my ipod classic (yes i stil have one of those ) the sound on them are still good till this day, only limitation is the space on them but i'll manage i guess.
till now i'll use my note 4 till it dies, it's 3 years old and still going strong for now.
With a bit of luck by March 2019 we'll have left the eu behind & all ludicrous laws. Cannot come soon enough.
Just be thankful that its not like some devices where it will nag you EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. when you turn the volume back up. At least this phone will only bug you once and then leave you alone until a certain amount of time passes or you restart. My Samsung Tab Pro S for example... *shudder*
this is why i would feel cheated buying a £800 phone and putting up with this
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=796398&p=5798523&viewfull=1#post5798523
i's ridiculous really and the volume is worse with bluetooth too, if i can't remove it i don't want it :angry:
No.
It's here to stay.
Even when the UK leaves the EU I doubt Samsung will not have the cap on UK handsets.
On the other hand:
European Phones are easy rootable (the samsung galaxy ones)
US Phones are always more difficult to root and so on (because of the different chips - exynos / snapdragon)
All the best,
lienot
Samsung phones have always been plenty loud enough for me.
You know loud noise damages hearing, right? So the more you listen to loud music, the more you need to turn up the volume.
Better not to get started on the vicious circle in the first place.
For anyone who can't see the 3 dots (tested on S8+ and S10+)
1. Download the free app QuickShortcutMaker from the Play store
2. Run it and type "volume" in the search box
3. When "Settings" appears in the search results below, open the tree and tap on "Settings / Media Volume Limiter"
4. From the choices that appear, tap the "Try" option
5. You have now opened Media Volume Limiter, which is where the 3 dots would have taken you. You should see a switch to turn the limiter on or off and a volume bar set to about 2/3
6. Tap the switch to turn the limiter ON
7. Drag the volume limit to the far right
8. Job done. Bollocks to Brussels.
So, I'm currently sporting a Moto G5S+ with an Android 8.1 custom ROM applied to it, which has recently begun expressing behaviours with the audio that I have previously experienced on other devices both on the lower and higher end of the market. I've come to expect this, though it does disappoint me as a whole, and I believe it's something hardware-related, considering the symptoms. Since I noticed that this device was beginning to do the same as my other devices, I decided to bring it up here for discussion, and see if anyone else has had this issue.
When I first got this device, I was able to listen to my music, getting a full blast unlocked volume on par with my laptop. About two or three months ago I finally broke down to the then lack of updates past Android 7.1.1 from Lenovo, and installed the ResurrectionRemix 8.1 rom I found on the device forum following a standard bootloader unlock. Nothing changed then, at least not noticeably, until about two weeks ago, when I noticed that I was turning my volume up to max, and it was barely outputting enough volume to fully immerse me in whatever video or song I was watching or listening to. Again, this has happened to all the android devices that I've used as a daily piece for any length of time, and I'm not surprised that this phone exhibits the same behaviours after something close to a year of use. I don't know if there is some sort of resistor or capacitor I'm frying internally due to high volume use of the audio chipset, or if the Android software has decided that I'm listening too loud too long, and is decreasing the volume in software, outside of the volume slider, unknown to the user. If anyone else has had this experience, post your phone and how long you used it before it happened, or even if you didn't let's discuss this together. I'd like to get some second opinions and some friendly conversation about it.
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So, I'm currently sporting a Moto G5S+ with an Android 8.1 custom ROM applied to it, which has recently begun expressing behaviours with the audio that I have previously experienced on other devices both on the lower and higher end of the market. I've come to expect this, though it does disappoint me as a whole, and I believe it's something hardware-related, considering the symptoms. Since I noticed that this device was beginning to do the same as my other devices, I decided to bring it up here for discussion, and see if anyone else has had this issue.
When I first got this device, I was able to listen to my music, getting a full blast unlocked volume on par with my laptop. About two or three months ago I finally broke down to the then lack of updates past Android 7.1.1 from Lenovo, and installed the ResurrectionRemix 8.1 rom I found on the device forum following a standard bootloader unlock. Nothing changed then, at least not noticeably, until about two weeks ago, when I noticed that I was turning my volume up to max, and it was barely outputting enough volume to fully immerse me in whatever video or song I was watching or listening to. Again, this has happened to all the android devices that I've used as a daily piece for any length of time, and I'm not surprised that this phone exhibits the same behaviours after something close to a year of use. I don't know if there is some sort of resistor or capacitor I'm frying internally due to high volume use of the audio chipset, or if the Android software has decided that I'm listening too loud too long, and is decreasing the volume in software, outside of the volume slider, unknown to the user. If anyone else has had this experience, post your phone and how long you used it before it happened, or even if you didn't let's discuss this together. I'd like to get some second opinions and some friendly conversation about it.
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If you're listening to your devices on max audio with any modified software than obviously you will induce some damage to components that are sensitive such as a speaker. Sometimes source codes can be incorrectly configured thus increasing the risk of damage to sensitive components. Manufacturers obviously test their software and devices for the degradation over time. But it's with their own software that's configured to their standard. Don't forget over time dust and gunk may build up on components hindering their fiction properly. Android won't scale down volume because it detects damage. It will use full blast 24/7 if that's what you set it to. If you are a smoker of cigarettes/tobacco then you will probably build up tar on speaker and microphone. There are quiet a few reasons as to what you maybe experiencing
I'm sorry in advance if my reply comes off as nieve and inflexible, I want to get down to what actually might be going on and I can tell you what isn't.
with any modified software than obviously you will induce some damage
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I do not use any EQ or Volume enhancing software outside of the custom rom, and volume was identical between the ROM and stock. And two of my previous devices that experienced this problem (ZTE Max Duo, LG Stylo) were not even rootable. All volume never exceeded phone specifications and yet the audio chip lost volume over time on those, and I highly doubt it exceeded specifications on my G5S+.
If you are a smoker of cigarettes/tobacco then you will probably build up tar
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I will stop you there, I don't commit upon that sin. And if there was some sort of buildup on my headphones, wouldn't that affect the laptop's output to them as well? Other than that I keep my phone, while not quite meticulously clean, decently sanitary, and I can say for sure that the grilles of the earpiece and bottom speaker are not clogged.
A good start, for sure. Just gotta keep digging.
I noticed the OXYGEN UPDATER APP now has Android 12 available to install but it hasn't quite made it to the official update in the settings. Just wondering if anyone has tried this update and whether you experienced or heard of any bugs?
I have no reason to think there is but Ive literally heard nothing good, bad or neutral. It's like no one owns this phone anymore. An update like this used to be noteworthy. That said, if anyone reads this and you have info, please share. Thanks
I have updated my device today and one thing I have noticed the most is that volume levels after the update are much lower than they were. I cannot use normally my earphones indoors and cannot image how bad it will perform outdoors.
Would be grateful if someone knows how to fix such problem.
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I have updated my device today and one thing I have noticed the most is that volume levels after the update are much lower than they were. I cannot use normally my earphones indoors and cannot image how bad it will perform outdoors.
Would be grateful if someone knows how to fix such problem.
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I appreciate the feedback. I still haven't updated, but lately I've had volume issues. Both pairs of ear buds are noticeably lower than they were in the past. On one pair the right ear bud is barely usable, especially in a somehat noisy setting, but it's gotta be an issue with the ear bud.
In general, I need to crank them all the way up in the gym.
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I appreciate the feedback. I still haven't updated, but lately I've had volume issues. Both pairs of ear buds are noticeably lower than they were in the past. On one pair the right ear bud is barely usable, especially in a somehat noisy setting, but it's gotta be an issue with the ear bud.
In general, I need to crank them all the way up in the gym.
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I have fixed the issue with low sound levels when using earphones, but, unfortunately, I cannot describe clearly how 'cause it was a bit incomprehensible. I just connected one more time my earphones to smartphone, opened some video on YouTube, then pop-out of some option about volume came out. Then I tapped on it and there was an option that has strange description (maybe it is because of localization) that I switched on, and the volume issue fixed magically. After that, I couldn't find that option once again in settings.
Sounds familiar. I think it's a built-in volume limiter. Should be able to find something in the settings and if not maybe enable developer settings and see if you find it there. Something like "absolute volume".
But it looks like you got it sorted out anyway.
Actually nevermind. I got that confused with something else. I believe all that would do is keep the earbuds and the phone volumes separate.
There's been talk that Android 12 and Android Auto don't work well in some cars - not OnePlus specific, but in general. Has anyone tried Android Auto with 12 yet on the OP8?
Alan
I did the update, and here is what I notice:
The icons on top of the screen are not the same size.
The Notifications sometimes are lost (Whatsapp/text etc)
Whatsapp voice calls echo and sometimes the phone does not ring
Ghost touches when gaming (clash royale)
The screen goes ON for no reason
The battery sometimes is okay, sometimes it drains (your mileage may vary)
Screen unlock fingerprint behavior slow at times and sometimes is fine.
The volume issue that everyone is reporting
All of if has been reported to OnePlus. If you visit the OP forums everyone is pretty pissed off about it myself included.
Honestly, it feels like this is an Alpha version of the ROM and they are using the general public to test and find bugs.
This is pretty frustrating a phone is not a toy is a tool for work and to communicate with others.
Fingerprint unlock stops working after a few days. Reboot brings it back.
Just to update. AA works fine with Android 12 on my OP8