Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
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XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
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JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
jetbruceli said:
Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)
Hi i have the s8+ unlocked version and i try the root by samfail tutorial but not work and the thread is closed so i dont know if anyone know how to root s8+ xaa g955u1 bootload 2AQL1 (unlocked version) please share thanks
Snapdragon rooting is pretty standard, however I believe there is a question on a new boot loader coming out, so I'm not sure if that changes things, as one new addition is it keeps the phone region locked.
I'm Exynos. Your phone is?
does anyone have the stock boot image for s8+ 955FD
tryin to change root frm su to Magisk
I have the snapdragon but using unlocked version so the bootloader maybe different, i can use the custom rom but cant root? The custom rom have alot of extra feature that i dont like
JeffDC said:
Snapdragon rooting is pretty standard, however I believe there is a question on a new boot loader coming out, so I'm not sure if that changes things, as one new addition is it keeps the phone region locked.
I'm Exynos. Your phone is?
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lunknowl said:
I have the snapdragon but using unlocked version so the bootloader maybe different, i can use the custom rom but cant root? The custom rom have alot of extra feature that i dont like
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I think you do not 'have' to use a custom ROM for Snapdragon, if you do not wish to use one. I believe you can just use the "U" version, which is Cell phone company featureless.
TWRP for Snapdragon:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-s8-snapdragon-t3636718
Hi guys, I've been doing some searching but haven't found any clear answers on recent threads.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 G930A, currently running Android 8.0, I have developer options unlocked.
I'm looking to install TWRP, update BL/Modem, install Lineage OS 15.1, update GAPPs, and root with Magisk 17.2 with the hope of debloating preinstalled apps and increasing my battery life.
I'm having trouble finding the correct versions of things for the G930A, it seems like most options are for the F/FD, I found this awesome thread for those which I assume is incompatible with my device: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/guide-onelatest-stock-fw-csc-root-t3702963
Step one is installing TWRP (right?) but on their website under S7 has options for many models, but not the 930A. Is there another option that I'm missing or am I out of luck?
Thanks!
You're out of luck, TWRP and custom ROM's are only possible on models with the Exynos SOC which is the international 930F/FD model + Canada and Korea, as they can have their bootloaders unlocked.
G930A runs on Snapdragon with a locked bootloader (thanks to US carriers), despite the developer options unlock being visible, it actually doesn't do anything on Snapdragon.
Beanvee7 said:
You're out of luck, TWRP and custom ROM's are only possible on models with the Exynos SOC which is the international 930F/FD model + Canada and Korea, as they can have their bootloaders unlocked.
G930A runs on Snapdragon with a locked bootloader (thanks to US carriers), despite the developer options unlock being visible, it actually doesn't do anything on Snapdragon.
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I have faith that this will be an easy task! Thanks anyway.
g930a
EngineManShawn said:
I have faith that this will be an easy task! Thanks anyway.
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Hi, Did you manage, am also having the g930a.
WeyardWanderer said:
Hi guys, I've been doing some searching but haven't found any clear answers on recent threads.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 G930A, currently running Android 8.0, I have developer options unlocked.
I'm looking to install TWRP, update BL/Modem, install Lineage OS 15.1, update GAPPs, and root with Magisk 17.2 with the hope of debloating preinstalled apps and increasing my battery life.
I'm having trouble finding the correct versions of things for the G930A, it seems like most options are for the F/FD, I found this awesome thread for those which I assume is incompatible with my device: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/guide-onelatest-stock-fw-csc-root-t3702963
Step one is installing TWRP (right?) but on their website under S7 has options for many models, but not the 930A. Is there another option that I'm missing or am I out of luck?
Thanks!
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Such a feat is not possible on the snapdragon version. Yes I know, their kind of scumbags for locking the qualcomm variants and only allowing the foreign versions with their crappy exynos chipset to be unlocked. It wasn't U.S Carriers that are responsible for the device being locked. Samsung locked it themselves.
Fortunately you can still root this device however, but you just cant install custom recoverys, boot logos etc,
ben70190 said:
Such a feat is not possible on the snapdragon version. Yes I know, their kind of scumbags for locking the qualcomm variants and only allowing the foreign versions with their crappy exynos chipset to be unlocked. It wasn't U.S Carriers that are responsible for the device being locked. Samsung locked it themselves.
Fortunately you can still root this device however, but you just cant install custom recoverys, boot logos etc,
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How would I still root my device?
WhatAmIDoin? said:
How would I still root my device?
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I am also trying to root my device and having a hell of a time as well!! Any and all advice or plans would be greatly appreciated!!!!!
You said it can still be rooted, how so? Can you recommend any good links for instructions on how to go about this?
WeyardWanderer said:
Hi guys, I've been doing some searching but haven't found any clear answers on recent threads.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 G930A, currently running Android 8.0, I have developer options unlocked.
I'm looking to install TWRP, update BL/Modem, install Lineage OS 15.1, update GAPPs, and root with Magisk 17.2 with the hope of debloating preinstalled apps and increasing my battery life.
I'm having trouble finding the correct versions of things for the G930A, it seems like most options are for the F/FD, I found this awesome thread for those which I assume is incompatible with my device: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/guide-onelatest-stock-fw-csc-root-t3702963
Step one is installing TWRP (right?) but on their website under S7 has options for many models, but not the 930A. Is there another option that I'm missing or am I out of luck?
Thanks!
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have you found out anything