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I'm new to rooting and just rooted my Droid 2 Global and have no idea what to do next. Where do I find roms? What are the best ones? And how can I get rid of some of this junk moto has on here?
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I'm sorta new to this too. I rooted with Z4Root. I'd recommend going to the market and downloading Root Uninstaller. That helped me get rid of all the stupid crap verizon put on there, like Blockbuster, Kindle, CityID, etc.
Another thing you could do is look up "root" in the market. It will show you all the apps that require root access.
Becareful though, just like your home computer, uninstalling some software may have unintended consequences. Hope that helps.
marcort said:
I'm sorta new to this too. I rooted with Z4Root. I'd recommend going to the market and downloading Root Uninstaller. That helped me get rid of all the stupid crap verizon put on there, like Blockbuster, Kindle, CityID, etc.
Another thing you could do is look up "root" in the market. It will show you all the apps that require root access.
Becareful though, just like your home computer, uninstalling some software may have unintended consequences. Hope that helps.
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Thanks a lot. Has anything you uninstalled caused you problems?
Not yet. But I only uninstalled the factory installed extra stuff. I noticed a slight pickup in speed and battery life (although it could just all be in my head... LOL). Let me know if you do anything else cool. Im still trying to build up enough balls to actually start flashing roms.
marcort said:
I'm sorta new to this too. I rooted with Z4Root. I'd recommend going to the market and downloading Root Uninstaller. That helped me get rid of all the stupid crap verizon put on there, like Blockbuster, Kindle, CityID, etc.
Another thing you could do is look up "root" in the market. It will show you all the apps that require root access.
Becareful though, just like your home computer, uninstalling some software may have unintended consequences. Hope that helps.
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This is a bad idea, don't do it.
When you delete the bloatware that comes on the phone, you make your phone unable to receive OTA updates from Verizon. This includes any future updates to Android version 2.3 (Gingerbread). The updates run as a patch, they check for all of the system data to be present. This includes pre-installed apps like blockbuster, amazon, etc. If ALL of the system data isn't present, the patch can't run.
Instead, you should use Titanium Backup to freeze these programs. It does the same thing, but instead of removing the files, it changes their extension, so that they can't run. It has the same effect, but when you want an update, you just unfreeze your programs, update, and then refreeze them. It also lets you make backups of your apps and app data.
If you don't want to pay for TiBu, you can always manually change all the filenames from cityID.apk to cityID.bak, etc etc. This does the same thing, for free, but is more involved and less beginner friendly.
Do what ever you want......if you want to go back to stock to get offical ota updates just search for the sbf file and your all good. Just know what your doing before you do it. If you delete bloatware it will effect ota updates. But flash the sbf with rsd lite and you'll be fine
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You could do that, yes. But freezing bloatware is more efficient. Flashing an SBF is more time intensive, and has a higher chance (not high, mind you, but highER) of not working correctly. Also, TiBU has the added benefit of being a backup utility that's easy to use and very functional and stable.
Ok.
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Well I guess that shows how much of a dummy I am with this stuff. I ended up reinstalling the stuff I removed from the market and unrooting because I had to send the phone back. It had a really weird charging issue that was present when I bought it. Im on the new one now. (Rooted to try and fix the charging issue. It didnt work). I haven't rooted the new phone yet. Im reading through all the forums to try and gain a little better understanding of how to do this stuff without wrecking my phone or missing out on updates. Thanks for all the good info! I wont be screwing around with bloatware so soon this time.
Definitly do not go the uninstall route on the Blur stuff.
Freezing is better!
As for ROMs there is only one ROM that I know of and it is Fission.
Get the ROM manager here at XDA and flashing it is a snap. It even has the Stock Droid in the manager so you can easily go back to stock when needed.
The stock rom in the rom manger still has root, busybox and is deodexed. If sent back with these programs on it will void your warranty. So if you ever need to send back sbf 1st to be safe. The .sbf takes like 15 minutes. Maybe two minutes more then flashing a ROM. So I really don't get how flashing a .sbf is difficult. And it actually is the safest due to the locked bootlader and the drivers usually never fail if running Windows 32 bit.
so i'm assuming that all of the other "popular" ROM's (liberty, rubix, apex, etc.) that say they are for the DX and D2 wont work on the D2G? I've installed many ROM's on my D2G and all of them get stuck on airplane mode and wont unlock. I end up having to restore and revert back to stock...
Yep, pretty lame that all these devs havent taken numerous peoples' offers to test out d2g ports of the d2 roms. i mean i have no idea how to port it myself but theres people saying "if you try it, ill test it" and still no devs take anyone up on the offer.
So does ne one think that we are going to get ne roms ported over to us from the dx or the d2 cuz I was lookin forward to flashing liberty to my D2G so can some1 pm if they got ne idea or if they kno when we can expect a new rom
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Hey Guys- I just rooted and installed Fission ROM on my D2G- WHEW!! My wife (the IT pro) and I rooted this past Sunday evening. We used Z4ROOT- this part was fairly easy. Then we spent the next 6 hours- with no luck whatsoever- trying to install a custom ROM. We finally found out that there aren't many out for the D2G just yet.
We finally found Fission ROM, but could not get it installed. You must have a bootstrap program to install the rom. I found this out by accident. Finally installed Fission on Tuesday night. Only used for a few hours, but so far so good.
BTW- there are several bloatware freezers on the market. I had read not to remove it, so I froze it. App Freezer for Root seems to be working fine.
Be careful, and good luck!
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We finally found Fission ROM, but could not get it installed. You must have a bootstrap program to install the rom. I found this out by accident. Finally installed Fission on Tuesday night. Only used for a few hours, but so far so good.
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There are instructions with everything you need to know (including koush's bootstrap) provided by team defuse on their website. The entire process shouldn't take more than 30 minutes tops.
And you can delete anything you want now that there is the D2 global SBF for recovery. Just make sure you know how to use it before things go awry so you don't panic and flood the forums with questions that have already been answered.
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pfallin said:
so i'm assuming that all of the other "popular" ROM's (liberty, rubix, apex, etc.) that say they are for the DX and D2 wont work on the D2G? I've installed many ROM's on my D2G and all of them get stuck on airplane mode and wont unlock. I end up having to restore and revert back to stock...
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how do you revert back to stock. yes i made a backup.
How do you get the OTA Update? I mean, you have to be on Verizon to get it, right? What if you unlocked the phone and use it outside the US with a different sim card from some other carrier? Can you still get the update? Please help.
And, if somehow I can find this precious update, then if I change my rom to Fission, I won't get updates anymore, right? Then what is the point of getting new roms? I'll have to be checking for newer roms with newer updates from Verizon all the time? Is this the idea?
Thank you,
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How do you get the OTA Update? I mean, you have to be on Verizon to get it, right? What if you unlocked the phone and use it outside the US with a different sim card from some other carrier? Can you still get the update? Please help.
And, if somehow I can find this precious update, then if I change my rom to Fission, I won't get updates anymore, right? Then what is the point of getting new roms? I'll have to be checking for newer roms with newer updates from Verizon all the time? Is this the idea?
Thank you,
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Yes, you can get the update, no matter you are not on Verizon network. But update will not be 'pushed' to you, you have to go to system/about phone/system updates. Phone will check for update and let you know if one is available. If you are already running 2.4.330, you will get prompt no update is available. If you are on 2.4.29 - you must get the prompt update is available and will be downloaded.
Update will work only if you are using stock firmware (for me it worked fine no matter I had rooted the phone, you must make sure there are no 'frozen' apps before update is applied, or it will fail to install). On Fission, it will not show/work. Many users, including myself, have reported update does not seem to be adding anything benneficial to users on GSM/UMTS networks. On some networks (in Canada and Australia so far) update causes the phone to become unreliable when it comes to keeping connection to the cellular network. Another user (in Germany) reports no problems using the updated firmware. I suspect this is related to frequencies - in Canada and Australia we use bands that overlap with US bands which as we all know have some software restrictions imposed by the phone. In Europe (Germany, Greece) you guys use 2100Mhz.
Again - update addresses some CDMA issues, I find absolutely no different with/without the update in terms of battery life or call quality. (I am on Rogers Canada - GSM/HSPA 850/1900.)
Coming off of the Samsung S5 and going to the Honor 8 (Phone should be here tommorow)
On the samsung I had safestrap loaded for recovery, rooted, xposed, and many rooted apps.
I was also running stock rom because of lack of room, also lack of options.
The honor 8 looks like it is easy to get TWRP on it and get it unlocked bootloader.
Not sure about custom roms , looks like there are a few but is stock good ?
Also what about emui5 ?
Here is my current plan unless other suggestions:
Do titanium backup and nandroid on old phone.
Remove Sim and SD
Activate new phone with current sim (May need to go to att to trim)
Unlock Honor 8 bootloader.
Get TWRP loaded.
Root phone
load exposed , SU, Busy box, TB, (not in that order)
Load apps from Google play and overwrite data from TB if needed.
That is about it, so if I do this right should have stock rom and fully rooted and recovery.
currently looking at using Somboons tool for most of it.
This is a repost of my origional , but did in the wrong forums opps on my part.
I think before any mod on this device get used to the function of the unmodified device. And there after do your mods if you happy, unless you've already used this device.
eracet said:
Coming off of the Samsung S5 and going to the Honor 8 (Phone should be here tommorow)
On the samsung I had safestrap loaded for recovery, rooted, xposed, and many rooted apps.
I was also running stock rom because of lack of room, also lack of options.
The honor 8 looks like it is easy to get TWRP on it and get it unlocked bootloader.
Not sure about custom roms , looks like there are a few but is stock good ?
Also what about emui5 ?
Here is my current plan unless other suggestions:
Do titanium backup and nandroid on old phone.
Remove Sim and SD
Activate new phone with current sim (May need to go to att to trim)
Unlock Honor 8 bootloader.
Get TWRP loaded.
Root phone
load exposed , SU, Busy box, TB, (not in that order)
Load apps from Google play and overwrite data from TB if needed.
That is about it, so if I do this right should have stock rom and fully rooted and recovery.
currently looking at using Somboons tool for most of it.
This is a repost of my origional , but did in the wrong forums opps on my part.
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I have just got my honor 8 and all my other phones have been rooted and using custom Roms.
With this and with the updates and beta N I'm finding that I don't have to.
Using this ROM and using the custom themes that are available it's enough to keep me happy.
I'm looking forward to 2 years worth of updates.
It's an excellent phone and I really like the EMUI 5
Think hard before you root etc. There ain't any finished custom roms as yet.
There is no need to root to get rid of bloatware as the Rom let's you delete most of what you don't want.
Why you need to root ?
Try the phone and see what you can do.
Have fun
John
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johnhux7 said:
I have just got my honor 8 and all my other phones have been rooted and using custom Roms.
With this and with the updates and beta N I'm finding that I don't have to.
Using this ROM and using the custom themes that are available it's enough to keep me happy.
I'm looking forward to 2 years worth of updates.
It's an excellent phone and I really like the EMUI 5
Think hard before you root etc. There ain't any finished custom roms as yet.
There is no need to root to get rid of bloatware as the Rom let's you delete most of what you don't want.
Why you need to root ?
Try the phone and see what you can do.
Have fun
John
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I root for many programs , titanium backup , es file explorer, APs toSD pro, xposed and some others.
On the same Samsung there was tons of junk on it.
I know if I go TWRP there isnt much use at the moment. Unless I need to sideload something.
Don't really need a custom rom, not yet at least.
Wondering if I root and keep the stock rom would be the best thing.
Can I load TWRP later ?
Heard it will break the EMUI 5 update.
Or I could always do TWRP , Root etc and then load EUMI 5 or custom version manually someday.
eracet said:
I root for many programs , titanium backup , es file explorer, APs toSD pro, xposed and some others.
On the same Samsung there was tons of junk on it.
I know if I go TWRP there isnt much use at the moment. Unless I need to sideload something.
Don't really need a custom rom, not yet at least.
Wondering if I root and keep the stock rom would be the best thing.
Can I load TWRP later ?
Heard it will break the EMUI 5 update.
Or I could always do TWRP , Root etc and then load EUMI 5 or custom version manually someday.
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Yes mate you could root and keep the stock ROM but you will lose the option to get the OTA updates.
Just way up the pro's and cons and see if you really need to root.
I used to use titanium back up and yes it's a great app but there ain't really many options of custom ROMs to go back and forward between to need it in my case. Also now that as soon as you log into your Google account when going into a new rom you get your apps back anyway.
I have a couple of phones and I have root and am running CM14.1 on one of them and I can do more with this EMUI 5 beta N as I can do with CM14.1 !
I personally am gonna stick with stock on this phone for a good while. (At least till there are loads of roms to choose from)
John
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johnhux7 said:
Yes mate you could root and keep the stock ROM but you will lose the option to get the OTA updates.
Just way up the pro's and cons and see if you really need to root.
I used to use titanium back up and yes it's a great app but there ain't really many options of custom ROMs to go back and forward between to need it in my case. Also now that as soon as you log into your Google account when going into a new rom you get your apps back anyway.
I have a couple of phones and I have root and am running CM14.1 on one of them and I can do more with this EMUI 5 beta N as I can do with CM14.1 !
I personally am gonna stick with stock on this phone for a good while. (At least till there are loads of roms to choose from)
John
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Is the EMUI 5.0 only coming on a Push update?
Or is it possible to flash it or any custom coming out with it. ?
I seen there is a signup for beta now.
I do need root ( I dont save anything to the cloud services) all local
Apps themselves will load from play store and amazon store, just the game data or any other data will be manual reinstall.
From what I understand if I dont install custom recovery I can still get the OTA update when it is time.
eracet said:
Is the EMUI 5.0 only coming on a Push update?
Or is it possible to flash it or any custom coming out with it. ?
I seen there is a signup for beta now.
I do need root ( I dont save anything to the cloud services) all local
Apps themselves will load from play store and amazon store, just the game data or any other data will be manual reinstall.
From what I understand if I dont install custom recovery I can still get the OTA update when it is time.
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When I got the beta N update it came as an OTA update although i do think that there are some links to getting it via twrp over in the roms thread. I might be wrong with that though. Have a look
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I were also used to root on all my previous phones including the last one I moved from which was the Galaxy S4.
EMUI has so many nice functions (including choosing whether standard storage should be internal or external) so I actually don't need root anymore. Not even for blocking ads since that can be done through VPN.
If you want to move over your app date without root then do a backup with ADB.
Search for "adb backup" and you'll find a XDA thread about it. I made such a backup and got all my app data moved over along with the apps.
Oh yeah, and personally I'm using Evie for a launcher but when EMUI 5 is published I think I'll move back to the stock launcher.
Bro, the stock ROM rocks with its customisability!
And one more thing; if you're eligible to get an extra year of warranty plus 3 months of free screen change in case it cracks then remember to sign up through the HiCare app.
I'll also be getting my Honor 8 shortly. The only reason I've rooted my phones in the past is for ad blocking. I see there's an app called "Block This" that does not require root? Will that work on this phone?
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I'll also be getting my Honor 8 shortly. The only reason I've rooted my phones in the past is for ad blocking. I see there's an app called "Block This" that does not require root? Will that work on this phone?
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I've used AdGuard and it's brilliant, but it's not free.
EDIT: I'm currently using "Block This!" and it's working very well!
I use root for some games, game guardian.
Some games are pay to win. ( I don't mind paying some but don't rob me)
I did get the phone working with my cell company and currently getting the Sd card backed up just in case something goes wrong somewhere.
Looking at getting a bootloader unlock code, but there site doesn't seem to be working right.
Thanks for the suggestions on steps to do.
Read multiple tips and ideas.
Next step is get SD card installed and getting google account loaded up.
Well I installed everything, only thing I don't like so far is it forces apps like hangouts.
I know it was recommended that I do not to TWRP or root, but I did anyways. ( I took suggestions very serious Thank you)
Now trying to get used to setup is a little challanging, maybe playing around with it will help a lot.
Such as hard to find what actual apps I have like an app drawer.
You people are the best at helping out . Thank you so much for helping me get on track !
Just got my H8 on monday (FRD-L14) and am in the same boat- thinking of Rooting but with the lack of ROM support at the moment I think I'm going to stay stock for a bit. There are some xposed mods that i'd like to get back but the stock features are pretty solid as it is. I did the CM theme, Apex launcher, changed out Icons and I'm pretty damn happy with it!
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Just got my H8 on monday (FRD-L14) and am in the same boat- thinking of Rooting but with the lack of ROM support at the moment I think I'm going to stay stock for a bit. There are some xposed mods that i'd like to get back but the stock features are pretty solid as it is. I did the CM theme, Apex launcher, changed out Icons and I'm pretty damn happy with it!
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I have the same model now FRD-L14.
Recovery , rooted, SU, xposed, F-droid.
Loaded my 20 root apps
I did not see a way to root without loading recovery.
There is another thread on TWRP.
What my plan down the road is to keep it like this , then eventtually (I assume early next year) see some development from Roms etc.
Hopefully a modified EUMI 5.
One of the major reasons I did not wait to start the process is because when you unlock bootloader it wipes.
So doing this now I cna set the phone up how I like. Then when the updating begins I can always go back to nandroid backup if something goes wrong.
Even though ATM the TWRP isnt backing up my rom (will update recovery when it does).
Nice- so i assume all the current "how to's" work fine for the L14? I've been reluctant to meddle too much since our model isn't specifically mentioned in most of the post here (though i assume anything for L04 applies). That and I don't see a stock firmware package out there to go back to if something goes wrong. I'm not a total noob but have only rooted and ROM'd with samsung devices so far (GS 2 and 3) which are so well documented and tested you really can't screw it up.
I'm really conflicted. I want to root simply because of the option for backing up app data rooted. I could care less about custom ROMs right now, but I want to be able to back up the data inside my apps like all the settings, messages, accounts etc etc. It is really annoying to me that I have to reset that when switching phones. I hate to say it but it seems like Apple does this better with iTunes backups (which is not an option for me though because I don't want to pay the money for an iDevice).
My issue on the H8 though is I rooted it just fine but then realized I forgot to do OTA updates first. So I did the OTA updates (full download) which basically re-locked, re-stocked my bootloader and unrooted the phone. Now in order to re-root, I have to go through unlocking again which is going to wipe all the customizations I already did. I really wish there was a way to keep a stock image WITH root but continue to do OTA updates...
Hi guys,
I'm considering rooting my G930FD. If I just root it, I should be able to disable most of Samsung crap, correct? I'm concerned about being able to use apps that might detect for root/CFW, such as:
-Google Pay
-HSBC
-MobileIron
Is there a way to hide the root from these? I think MobileIron even checks the knox status, so even if root is hidden/disabled, I might still fail that check.
If I install a CFW, what are the current status of affairs? I haven't installed a CFW since my Galaxy S4 times. As in, if I install any Lineage/AOSP, is there any way to get the camera to work with the stock app, or at least make it perform stock/like? What about Google Pay etc on these ROMs? Any stock-based ROM that keeps the camera while minimizing/rooting out all the touchwiz crap, while still working?
Thanks! I've been out of the game for a couple of years and got lost trying to catch up again...
timonoj said:
Hi guys,
I'm considering rooting my G930FD. If I just root it, I should be able to disable most of Samsung crap, correct? I'm concerned about being able to use apps that might detect for root/CFW, such as:
-Google Pay
-HSBC
-MobileIron
Is there a way to hide the root from these? I think MobileIron even checks the knox status, so even if root is hidden/disabled, I might still fail that check.
If I install a CFW, what are the current status of affairs? I haven't installed a CFW since my Galaxy S4 times. As in, if I install any Lineage/AOSP, is there any way to get the camera to work with the stock app, or at least make it perform stock/like? What about Google Pay etc on these ROMs? Any stock-based ROM that keeps the camera while minimizing/rooting out all the touchwiz crap, while still working?
Thanks! I've been out of the game for a couple of years and got lost trying to catch up again...
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I haven't touched my S7 yet so I can't answer you but this could answer some of your questions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/debloat-galaxy-s7-services-safe-to-t3432967
You don't necessarily have to root, you have to install TWRP as a custom firmware, then get the script, edit it if you don't want some apps to be removed, apply the script and it's debloated.
But I'm sorry I can't tell you if you can install TWRP without tripping Knox, I can't tell you if installing a custom Firmware will disable Google Pay etc... But I guess you can easily find that information by searching, or someone knowing more than me will help you
Installing TWRP will trip Knox if it's like every other Samsung phone I have owned that referenced Knox or warranty bit in download mode.
I am looking for or looking to start a thread that details which banking apps do and do not work with custom ROMs. Is there anything like this already available, and would it be useful to people thinking of switching from stock?
Banking / payment apps in general refuse to run if they detect that Android OS got tampered ( rooted, etc.pp ). It doesn't matter whether Android OS is Stock ROM or Custom ROM. It's really easy for apps of that kind to detect those mods applied.
Hi,
I've been away from messing about with android phones from almost a decade. A lot has changed so far. There is now so many different things associated with rooting your phone, and I was hoping someone could clear some stuff up for me.
1. Will unlocking the bootloader itself cause some issues with using banking apps or raise some red flags with other apps ?
2. Some ROMs use their custom recovery for flashing ROM to keep the encryption intact. They say flashing with magisk or twrp will break encryption. What encryption are they talking about ? And if encryption is indeed broken, what problems will that cause ?
3.If the phone is rooted, and custom rom installed, are there magisk modules, or any other way to hide it and use the phone normally ? You used to able to hide root on your phones back then.
Thanks
BB
BisonBro said:
Hi,
I've been away from messing about with android phones from almost a decade. A lot has changed so far. There is now so many different things associated with rooting your phone, and I was hoping someone could clear some stuff up for me.
1. Will unlocking the bootloader itself cause some issues with using banking apps or raise some red flags with other apps ?
2. Some ROMs use their custom recovery for flashing ROM to keep the encryption intact. They say flashing with magisk or twrp will break encryption. What encryption are they talking about ? And if encryption is indeed broken, what problems will that cause ?
3.If the phone is rooted, and custom rom installed, are there magisk modules, or any other way to hide it and use the phone normally ? You used to able to hide root on your phones back then.
Thanks
BB
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1) yes
2) not sure, I've never seen anything about this question.
3) In the past, hiding root wasn't that difficult, now it is significantly harder, if it can even be done at all on modern devices. I guess it depends the specific device and android version question. I see many users looking for a way to hide root, I don't recall any of them finding a solution.