Hi,
I've been away from messing about with android phones from almost a decade. A lot has changed so far. There is now so many different things associated with rooting your phone, and I was hoping someone could clear some stuff up for me.
1. Will unlocking the bootloader itself cause some issues with using banking apps or raise some red flags with other apps ?
2. Some ROMs use their custom recovery for flashing ROM to keep the encryption intact. They say flashing with magisk or twrp will break encryption. What encryption are they talking about ? And if encryption is indeed broken, what problems will that cause ?
3.If the phone is rooted, and custom rom installed, are there magisk modules, or any other way to hide it and use the phone normally ? You used to able to hide root on your phones back then.
Thanks
BB
BisonBro said:
Hi,
I've been away from messing about with android phones from almost a decade. A lot has changed so far. There is now so many different things associated with rooting your phone, and I was hoping someone could clear some stuff up for me.
1. Will unlocking the bootloader itself cause some issues with using banking apps or raise some red flags with other apps ?
2. Some ROMs use their custom recovery for flashing ROM to keep the encryption intact. They say flashing with magisk or twrp will break encryption. What encryption are they talking about ? And if encryption is indeed broken, what problems will that cause ?
3.If the phone is rooted, and custom rom installed, are there magisk modules, or any other way to hide it and use the phone normally ? You used to able to hide root on your phones back then.
Thanks
BB
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1) yes
2) not sure, I've never seen anything about this question.
3) In the past, hiding root wasn't that difficult, now it is significantly harder, if it can even be done at all on modern devices. I guess it depends the specific device and android version question. I see many users looking for a way to hide root, I don't recall any of them finding a solution.
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I've basically been trying to root this phone for over a week now - first of all I had problems with the ADB drivers and such, but now I can actually flash stuff onto the phone.
I then also managed to flash SuperSU and XPosed and now herein lies the problem. I want to play PokémonGO.
Now, after doing a lot of reading up on the subject, it seems P-GO now uses Google's SafetyNet API in order to block Root, Xposed, etc users from playing the game.
So, I did a complete reset and tried flashing a different rom. I used the ''Stock Android 6.0 ROM'' from this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/leagoo-shark-1-development-support-t3415599
HOWEVER, flashing that ROM seems to wipe the recovery partition (even if you untick recovery in sp flash tool) and you end up with some chinese 4G logo banner, before it boots into the OS.
So, back to square 1. I found and re-flashed the stock Leagoo OS ROM and then tried using Magisk (because supposedly Magisk can hide itself and allow me to play P-GO).
No digs...
So, after many hours of flashing many different ROMs, performing countless resets and wipes on my phone, I think I may have found the issue.
After reading through the support forum of Magisk, it was recommended trying to go back to 0 (un-rooting, re-wiping partitions, re-flashing stock rom, etc) and seeing if my phone would then pass SafetyNet Check - It doesn't.
Purely stock ROM, does not pass SafetyNET, which I reckon is because the phone's bootloader is unlocked from the get-go.
Now, weirdly, the stock rom CAN play PokémonGo without a hitch, but installing root then mucks it up.
Seeing as Leagoo isn't exactly a common brand, I cannot install LineageOS with it's custom kernel which hides the bootloader settings....
what can I do if I want to have a rooted phone, but also want to play PokemonGo?
Hi Everyone,
Honor View 10 is going to be launched soon in my country (this end of month). I have considered it as my next phone upgrade. Before, I have looked upon N*k** 8, but that subforum is dead already (no UBL, no root, nothing to see). I am currently waiting for X***mi RN5P which still have no news about the official launch here (probably another 3 months). But they decided to do some twist, by disabling the UBL ability for the phones they launched officially here. Kinda ironic.
To make sure I can live with the phone as it, I have to confirm several things first :
1. Does the phone has native VoLTE that works out of box without installing any additional app? I read from several thread here, it has support Dual VoLTE, but still doubt. I have checked some other phone who said they support VoLTE but in reality doesn't work. My main carrier used to be CDMA carrier, which has completely moved to 4G (only). So we can only call/sms thru VoLTE. If someone can post the screenshot of the VoLTE call setting, or "Enhanced HD" setting or similar, it will be a great confirmation. (I don't need the video call, only voice call/sms).
2. I am using Automagic (tasker alternative). I am quite active in that forum for several months. From there, I read a lot of incompatibility or something won't work, mostly from Huawei Devices. It seem the aggressive battery saving from the ROM has been disrupting Automagic from running properly. Is there anyone here who use Automagic/Tasker or similar automation app and found problem specific for Huawei devices, specificly for this View 10? (using stock ROM). I mean something like wifi scanning or location which work in Phone A or Phone B using the same android oreo 8.0; but doesn't work in View 10. If only minor problem, I can accept it.
3. Is there anyone having problem with the UBL process? X***mi just pull it tricks by kinda banning all user from my country to unlock the Bootloader. (error 86023:hardwareID) I am afraid of the same, as I need root. But I don't need to change the ROM.
Best case
If all the problems are solved and I have bought the device; I am going to root and install TWRP as usual. But I will stay on Stock ROM, most custom ROM still have problem with VoLTE. I might use LineAge or AOSP-ish ROM if there is any and has solved most bug. This is the step that I am going to do after I bought the phone.
1. Unlock the bootloader. https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-view-10/how-to/honor-view-10-bootloader-unlock-t3749426 Result : Bootloader Unlocked
2. Install Magisk (latest is 16.2) via fastboot https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho...agisk-root-honor-view-10-mate-10-pro-t3749280 Result : Root achieved, Magisk Installed
3. Then proceed on to backup the original recovery https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75630973&postcount=3 Result : Original recovery backed up. I am thinking to do additional backup by using partition backups, but don't know if it works.
4. Flash Official TWRP https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho...recovery-twrp-3-2-1-0-touch-recovery-t3752397 Result : recovery changed to TWRP.
5. Backup all available partition. Result : all partition backed up, except /data. Since FBE still won't work
After the ritual, the phone will be rooted, Magisk installed, TWRP, and have full backup of all backup-able partition from TWRP and the original recovery. Xposed still won't work, so need to find alternative in Xposed. I mostly use Gravity box and App Settings Modules. Maybe there are alternatives available in Magisk. (haven't research much about it). To backup app's data, the only choice is Titanium Backup then, since /data partition can't be backed up in TWRP. We don't have stock firmware yet available, so need to be careful with the modification.
Do I miss something in my steps above?
Thanks for the answer in advance. And sorry for the long post.
Regards,
Desmanto
Hi guys,
I'm considering rooting my G930FD. If I just root it, I should be able to disable most of Samsung crap, correct? I'm concerned about being able to use apps that might detect for root/CFW, such as:
-Google Pay
-HSBC
-MobileIron
Is there a way to hide the root from these? I think MobileIron even checks the knox status, so even if root is hidden/disabled, I might still fail that check.
If I install a CFW, what are the current status of affairs? I haven't installed a CFW since my Galaxy S4 times. As in, if I install any Lineage/AOSP, is there any way to get the camera to work with the stock app, or at least make it perform stock/like? What about Google Pay etc on these ROMs? Any stock-based ROM that keeps the camera while minimizing/rooting out all the touchwiz crap, while still working?
Thanks! I've been out of the game for a couple of years and got lost trying to catch up again...
timonoj said:
Hi guys,
I'm considering rooting my G930FD. If I just root it, I should be able to disable most of Samsung crap, correct? I'm concerned about being able to use apps that might detect for root/CFW, such as:
-Google Pay
-HSBC
-MobileIron
Is there a way to hide the root from these? I think MobileIron even checks the knox status, so even if root is hidden/disabled, I might still fail that check.
If I install a CFW, what are the current status of affairs? I haven't installed a CFW since my Galaxy S4 times. As in, if I install any Lineage/AOSP, is there any way to get the camera to work with the stock app, or at least make it perform stock/like? What about Google Pay etc on these ROMs? Any stock-based ROM that keeps the camera while minimizing/rooting out all the touchwiz crap, while still working?
Thanks! I've been out of the game for a couple of years and got lost trying to catch up again...
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I haven't touched my S7 yet so I can't answer you but this could answer some of your questions:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/debloat-galaxy-s7-services-safe-to-t3432967
You don't necessarily have to root, you have to install TWRP as a custom firmware, then get the script, edit it if you don't want some apps to be removed, apply the script and it's debloated.
But I'm sorry I can't tell you if you can install TWRP without tripping Knox, I can't tell you if installing a custom Firmware will disable Google Pay etc... But I guess you can easily find that information by searching, or someone knowing more than me will help you
Installing TWRP will trip Knox if it's like every other Samsung phone I have owned that referenced Knox or warranty bit in download mode.
By all means, read @Neffy27 's FAQ if you are starting out. even as a refresher for stuff you may have forgotten.
-But do think a bit about what you are doing:
-Do not modify your phone unless you are willing to toss it into the trash, as that could well be the result, no matter how well planned.
-Always have a spare on hand. I used my old Moto G3 when my MZP died suddenly. Worked just fine. You know, things really haven't changed all that much since Gingerbread...
-If you are going to be getting the latest OTA stuff by doing a full flash you might want to reflect on just how much, or little, you would gain. We all like to think that if we have the latest security patch we are somehow more safe, though I don't believe I have ever heard of a phone being affected by something just because it is not on the latest patch. I was running my old Moto z play on an aug '18 (if I remember correctly) patch with no problems up until a few weeks ago when it was done in by an expanding battery envelope which cracked the display. Consider, also, that many of the custom roms that are available are not updated at all - it takes a ton of work to try to get/keep a custom ROM current, AND working! Yet you never hear of viruses or the like.
- Be aware that if you modify ANYTHING on your phone, even as little as a new boot logo to cover up the unlocked bootloader message, you will prevent your phone from taking any further OTA updates. Some mods, like adding TWRP, may still allow it to try to download and install an OTA, but when it reboots to finish that install, it will fail since it needs to re-boot through stock recovery to complete. And it will continue offering you that update.
- There is a difference between the partition structure in our phones on 8.x, and those on 9. 9 is not full Treble, only a "partial" Treble, and really only the addition of a second set of partitions which OTA updates can use to update the system - instead of modifying the single partition set, it modifies the other (a or b) set and boots to that on update completion. If it fails it can always boot the other set. Theoretically! Makes it safer than the old way of doing OTA updates, but this may cause problems if you try to flash a 2 partition set phone with a single partition set ROM. I don't believe anyone has run any experiments on this, so YOU, when you flash things without thinking about the situation, may get an unusable phone. I do not know the answer here. If you read these forums which detail other's problems, you may trod a bit more hesitantly!
-The idea here is to have fun, and sometimes to experiment with new things. To a newbie, losing the use of a $200 phone can be a tough life lesson. Let's help them out by helping them to be cautious!
Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
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SR3TLAW said:
Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
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I would be careful about lineage as folks don't seem to be able to get back to stock from it.
I agree about maintaining root. I will likely just stay on stock with this one.
Hello,
I own a motorola one vision and would like to flash LineageOS 20 on the device. I am creating this thread to know the experiences of people who did something similar. I would like to know if there is any issues with a custom ROM on this device [calling issues, or similar]. I would also like to know if there is a way to revert back to the stock ROM in case I screw up something. I have read several threads about this device but I would like to confirm it again and be provided with some pointers of what I could expect with a custom ROM on this device and how I could revert back to the stock ROM in case I screw something up.
Thanks in advance
nsg650 said:
Hello,
I own a motorola one vision and would like to flash LineageOS 20 on the device. I am creating this thread to know the experiences of people who did something similar. I would like to know if there is any issues with a custom ROM on this device [calling issues, or similar]. I would also like to know if there is a way to revert back to the stock ROM in case I screw up something. I have read several threads about this device but I would like to confirm it again and be provided with some pointers of what I could expect with a custom ROM on this device and how I could revert back to the stock ROM in case I screw something up.
Thanks in advance
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I have been using lineageos since last year. I have used lineageos19 and am currently using lineageos20. The user experience is quite good. Everything works fine including calling except the hotspot. Hotspot does work but you have to keep tapping on the toggle to enable the hotspot or you can just restart the phone that's the temporary fix for the hotspot issue. The developer might fix the issue in the future updates. Other than that I didn't find any issue with the ROM and also it doesn't pass the safety net so you have to root your phone and install magisk to bypass safety net so that you can use your banking apps.
There are two versions official and unofficial. Official gets update every week and unofficial one is with the pixel features and google apps. It gets monthly updates.
If anything goes wrong you can install the official software called lenovo rescue and smart assistant on your pc and connect your phone with usb to pc. It can recover your phone to the original android 11 stock ROM.
Ryukrryts said:
I have been using lineageos since last year. I have used lineageos19 and am currently using lineageos20. The user experience is quite good. Everything works fine including calling except the hotspot. Hotspot does work but you have to keep tapping on the toggle to enable the hotspot or you can just restart the phone that's the temporary fix for the hotspot issue. The developer might fix the issue in the future updates. Other than that I didn't find any issue with the ROM and also it doesn't pass the safety net so you have to root your phone and install magisk to bypass safety net so that you can use your banking apps.
There are two versions official and unofficial. Official gets update every week and unofficial one is with the pixel features and google apps. It gets monthly updates.
If anything goes wrong you can install the official software called lenovo rescue and smart assistant on your pc and connect your phone with usb to pc. It can recover your phone to the original android 11 stock ROM.
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Hey! Sorry for checking after this long. I don't plan on using any banking apps so it will be fine for me. I already got my unlock code and just have to unlock the device and flash LineageOS. I will do that after backing it up. Thank you for your sharing your experience !!!