Bundled in ear headphones - am I doing it wrong? - HTC U11 Questions & Answers

Hi,
Firstly my perception might be warped as I've got a pair of RHA 600i, but I'm just finding the bundled headphones lack clarity - the mids and bass just muffles the sound.
I'm not testing it with ghetto boom tracks either, e.g. flac format UB40 album, Damien Marley - Stony Hill, Michael Jackson best of...
I guess the question is am I expecting far too much from them? And are my RHA 600i really that good?
Is a Fiio a worthwhile investment for RHA600i? I'm finding the volume is lacking a bit and I'm using +3db in gain to compensate via Nuetron...
Edit: I guess I was expecting more as HTC said the earphones have sonar style wizardry from the ancient dolphins from the 70s that can only be found crossing through the stained lake Cresva.

The U-Sonic headphones are known to be a bit bassy, especially if compared to some made by a company more focused on headphones or ear buds specifically. I personally like the bundled U-Sonics, but the more muddy bass you describe is filtered out and the highs brought forward with the use of V4A in my case.

They are overly bass-y, that's widely accepted.

Ty men, I'll try V4A, but I'm guessing the RHA will still win, just the idea of using HTCs solution is nice, I still miss the HK mod from One M8 days.

You can use a simple EQ to remove some of the muddy bass from the USonics. They are good for bundled headphones but nothing more. I use them for casual walks where I know I won't be paying too much attention to sound quality. If I'm sitting down for a long time like bus journeys etc then I have to pull out my P7 Wireless.
The RHA is simply more controlled than the USonic, as to be expected. I have the RHA 750i and volume is also lacking. Bare in the mind the U11 adaptor doesn't have a very powerful amp so that is the problem. Since you're using Neutron I'd suggest maybe using UAPP instead (since you have your own music). The U11 adaptor sounds a decent touch louder when using UAPP since it is accessing the DAC directly and skipping Android's mixer.

Jesus...UAPP has changed my whole listening experience. Much louder, seems like there's more clarity my 600i just came alive...
Didn't expect that.
Thanks for the recommendation.

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Best In-Ear (Wired) Headphones?

What's the best in-ear headphones with a mic and a button to answer/end and go to next/prev track? $50 max
Thanks
I was about to mention Shure, but with that budget you better stick to the stock headphones. They are not that bad...
I'm looking for the buds that block out sound... Like on the Apple in-ear headphones.
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I'm looking for the buds that block out sound... Like on the Apple in-ear headphones.
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Apologies for the cost, but $50 is seriously pushing it for quality headphones.
If you can spare the extra cash... Check out the Klipsch Image S4's. They're ~$80, but get HUGE props for the cost:quality ratio. I bought em, and amd SO glad I did.
You will not find better at,or near, that range... and you'll find absolutely nothing close under it. The added benefit is quite good noise cancellation capability.
http://reviews.cnet.com/headphones/klipsch-image-s4-earphones/4505-7877_7-33577358.html
These don't have anything for handling media built-in unfortunately. There's a $100 version, but do note they won't work with anything except Apple products. (I almost wasted the extra $20 before doing my research)
Honestly... I don't think ANYTHING exists with everything you're looking for.. (Not at any price near what you're expecting...) Do you do any research before setting a price limit?
Seriously, just stick with the stock headphones and deal w/ no phone interaction. To get headphones w/ the capabilities you're looking for would be well out of your range.
Those Shure headphones are fantastic and do a great job blocking out the sound.
I do have to disagree with the post above regarding not being able to find something for under $50 with good sound quality and noise cancellation qualities.
As I post this I'm listening to music on my Altec Lansing Backbeats in ear earbuds.
http://www.alteclansing.com/uhp206-backbeat-plus-earphones-for-iphone-ipod-MP3-players.html
They are comfortable, have good noise cancellation (by my standards), and have excellent sound quality.
I think they have a great range and the bass doesn't muddy the audio. Best of all (in my opinion) they have cloth cables and don't gave that goofy "one side is 3 times longer than the other so you can wear em behind your head" feature.
They do everything you asked about EXCEPT they cannot hang up a call. :-(
Not a problem as this doesn't really matter to me since I can hang up on the phone or wait for the other party to disconnect.
Bought mine at my local Apple store. They have a 14 day return policy and are $49.95.
I love my Apple In Ear Headphones.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MA850G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
The mic works great, comes with three sizes of rubber pads, and they are a super comfortable fit.
The buttons work with MixZing but not Music Player. Maybe someone has a plugin or drivers to support native features like volume control.
But the quality of the headphones themselves are way up there. Fantastic audio.
^ I have these now and the buttons DO work for me with the stock music player.. Just not the volume buttons. I'm too crazy about the sound quality and I"m looking for "one step up" from these...
These get great reviews over at head-fi.org
And some of you might think we are obsessed about our phones. The people over there are a notch higher on the totem poll... LOL!

which earphones

Hello
i need help and i know that here are some audiophiles
i have desire and i want to buy some earphone to 40€+-30%
cant decide between in-ear and on/over-ear and i dont want some ****ty chinese stuff
can anybode help me?
thanks
I prefer to have over/on-ear headset since not every in-ears can fit my ears.
Lots of in-ears fall easily from my ears, getting the one which fits well is difficult as hell for me.
For these price range I suggest these on- and over-ear headphones:
1. Sony XB300 or 500 (I have a XB300)
2. Koss porta pro (My sister has this)
3. AKG K420 (not for big heads)
I am wearing XB300 for daily basis (subways, streets, etc.) but using Sennheiser PXC450 at home or for long journies especially on airplanes.
PXC450 is one of the best headphone have ever bought
I would highly recommend the Sennheiser CX400II!
These are in-ear and come with 6(!) sizes of rubbers for it. They cancel A LOT of voice. If someone is talking right next to you and you're listening to music you hear about nothing. Also the sound quality is very good, if you like bass, it's definitely a great set!
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Found a link: http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheise...ssic-line_cxseries-in-ear-earphones-cx-400-ii
Price will be (in the Netherlands) around €35
thanks for replies guys
i was thinking about akg k420, but they are plastic and i would brake them sooner or later
Sony XB500 and Sennheiser CX400II look really good, now i cant decide :-/
I would recommend to think also about buying the Koss Porta Pro. I bought it for round about 25 € and I think the sound is better than my 100 € Bose Headphones.
I didn't expect much, but it has a brilliant sound and I was really, really surprised.
There are also 10 years warranty... Easy to carry and there's a bag and a 6.2mm adapter included.
I use the in ear Sony MDR-ex300! Perfect sound and powerfull bass.
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I don't know but maybe there is a place you can test several types? We can tip a lot of things but all our ears and tastes are different.
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I have ordered this ones: hxxp://xxx.head-fi.org/t/576532/fxc51-review-a-supreme-value
I have read great things about this too: hxxp://xxx.koss.com/en/products/headphones/ear-clip-headphones/KSC75__KSC75_Ear_Clip_Headphones
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I like the ones that came with my Desire....and when they stopped working I rang HTC who were more than helpful and sent me a replacement pair for free
As an old-school valve amp & vinyl audiophile and former high-end hi-fi salesman, I suggest you need to be asking yourself the following questions:
1. What kind of music do you listen to?
2. How much looking isolation from external sound would you like?
3. Do you like your sound to be really neutral or "coloured"?
4. Do you have equalisation in your ROM or music app?
We've found the Koss Mirages are a great price, have a punchy dynamic sound with good external isolation, and are quite comfortable. Koss also have a great replacement policy.
I've just bought some Yamaha EPH-50's and am surprised by their great low frequency response and smooth natural highs. They convey a nice sense of space (as much as can be had in an earbud).
In terms of frequency balance, the lows are surprisingly deep and clean. They are a bit mid-bass heavy though, and they lack the high-frequency sizzle that some people incorrectly perceive as "clarity". Cymbals may appear a bit recessed but could be augmented with a bit of top-end EQ in your player. Despite this the top end still delivers a lot of detail.
Vocals are especially good and the more subtle nuances of well-recorded acoustic instrumental tracks are nicely defined and rendered. Bass drums have good punch on the right recordings.
Overall I find them very satisfying for relaxed non-fatiguing listening over a good period of time.
They also seem quite efficient on my HTC Desire (not renown for their ear-splitting volume) ... for me they are plenty loud at about 50%.
The only thing I'm not sold on with them is the are a bit fiddly removing as where the cable enters the driver is shiny chrome plastic that is a bit hard to grip.
I use Monster Turbine for daily usage and these are the best in-ear headphones I've ever heard. They are really useful and bring natural highs as well as a good bass.
I prefer in-ears from Sennheiser (about 50.-) and normal, heavy headphones with heavy bass from Sony at home.
I don't think the Desire is all that great in terms of audio though, so I wouldn't spend to much there.
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i recommend getting the on ear headphones from Energy Sistem DJ 400. My friend has them and he let me try them on my Desire and the sound is phenomenal If u listen at 100% u cant hear anything around you and also what music you hear all others around you can hear it too. Their price is around 12-13 euros in my country..
I use a set of Beyer Dynamic MMX100 In-ear phones/headset- excellent set of headphones, I find Sennheisers to be slightly too transparent/tinny and all Beyers seem to be slightly warmer- good enough for the majority of the music industry/music studios etc then good enough for me
They are usually £120 RRP, but if you look on Amazon.co.uk, one seller has them in stock and selling them for £79.99 with free delivery (Amazon currently selling them for £102.11).
for on-the-go earphones, IEM are the best. Off the bat, I would recommend something from Westone.
But since there is a budget involved, something from Ultimate Ears or Klipsch would be good.
wviegas said:
I use the in ear Sony MDR-ex300! Perfect sound and powerfull bass.
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I wouldn't go with these Sony ones. Reviews state the sound is brilliant, but then both ear pieces die in a couple of months.
I'm using some No Fear earphones, like stated before...Desire isn't an excellent audio device so I'm ok with them ^_^
Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision.
i-beats by dr Dre, best sound ever heard from earphones
Costena said:
Sennheiser CX 300-II Precision.
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Best way to spend $20 I've seen yet.

Pioneer over ear headset

Hi, I'm lookin for cheaper Pioneer over ear headphones. If someone has good experience with any, please care to share. Thanks in advance!
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Pioneer... i had one but once i bought a sennheiser i totally forgot i had a pioneer... seriously pioneer probably will be okay for car audio but for earphones or headphones go for sennheiser or beats audio...
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Pioneer... i had one but once i bought a sennheiser i totally remembered i had a pioneer... seriously pioneer probably will be okay for car audio but for earphones or headphones go for sennheiser or beats audio...
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Yes, today tested many sennheisers, they are not expensive and the sound is great. Just have to decide which one I will buy.
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nowdays there are a lot of option of sennheiser.... i have one sennheiser earphone and one sennheiser headphone.... the earphone is cx300 and the headphone is hd215... i personally dont recommend you the hd215 because the treble is louder than the bass and it is actually ideal for dj's or for watching movies with lots of conversation when you really want to listen to the treble sound... My cx300 on the other hand is superbly ideal for mp3 and any form of music... unfortunately it is not an over ear headphone,it is an in ear headphone.... just make sure when u r buying your headphone u know what u r using it for and ask the sellers what is ideal for... If you want to listen music on your sensation then just go with any sennheiser headphone that has super bass, power bass or bass on its packaging...
Thank you for helping me. After reading this review:
As a semi-pro acid-trance/techno and drum & bass DJ and promotor for 20 years, and a total Audiophile, I wasn't expecting too much from these, coz as a rule you do get what you pay for. But sometimes rules are meant to be broken, and these babies SMASH the rule book to bits! They have the same tech specs as Dr Dre's Beats and the shape, size and comfort of the seminal HD 25's by Sennheiser. Having owned a pair of the latter, at £130, I wasn't expecting the HAS4X's to lay at the HD25's feet, let alone stand up to their shoulders! So, in laymans terms, what does all this mean in terms of sound? Alow me to help:
Low-end/Bass: The bass is strong, powerfull and amazingly tight, controlled and damn LOW, with a fast, punchey attack you just would never expect under £100! Add this to the fact that the bass NEVER becomes overpowering or gets in the way of the other frequencies, and the low, and even sub-bass low-end is catered for dynamicaly. Very impressive.
Low-Mid/Mid Range: This is the area that is the hardest for any headphones and speakers to reproduce without making it too weak, which makes it sound hollow, or too strong, which sounds too harsh, bright and down right awefull. These HAS4X's reproduce Mid frequencies with aplomb! Acid sounds are notoriously unforgiving, as they use all frequencies, from bass to treble, but mainly hang in the mid range, so if the mid is off in any way, you just won't get the spikey texture right, and I have to say that my Neurofunk d'n'b collection sounds fantastic through these babies! Guitars are handled with the same fidelity and controll, and again , my metal collection sounds awesome. I'm hearing instruments I never knew were in the song! There's Plenty of body to the sound, while incredibly managing to retain a good amount of transparency! Again, unheard of for under £100!
Treble/High end: The biggest mistake people make when reviewing ear/headphones, is not alowing them to 'run-in' for 24 hours. An engine won't run to it's best ability untill it's warmed up, and the same rule aplies to ALL music equipment! When you first listen to these, you may feel cheated, as although there is treble, it's not the over-bright, 'splashy' treble most people are used too with sub £100 'phones. WAIT!! Keep using them and you will start to realise that actualy, these have fantastic treble controll! They manage to reproduce the exact high end frequencies without adding any artifitial hiss, or splash. What I was Most impressed by was how capable these are at handling 'transients', like cymbal crashes, snare rim-shots and hi-hats etc. transients are the short, sharp, sudden and crisp treble sounds that normally get completely lost in the mix and even when they are present, they tend to sound splashy and loose. The HAS4x's handle transients astoundingly well! cymbals, rim-shots, snare drums and even triangles and tamborines can be heard CLEARLY in busy tracks, without being overpowering, and are sharp, controlled and have good attack.
What else can I add? The stereo soundstage is nigh-on perfect with an almost seamless blend throughout the frequencies, and even though these are not 'bright' sounding, don't mistake that for sounding muffled, as they are very open and airy. I really can't fault these headphones, as they sound as good as most in the £100-£150 bracket. they are also SOLIDLY built, with a rugid feel and thick, shielded OFC cable that has nice thick rubber protection at all joints and terminals, as well as a gold jack plug for a quality connection to your Mp3 player, stereo amp etc. And they are really comfortable (and I've got a large size head!). I was even able to jump about and dance without them even moving, let alone falling off. I love these, and am SOOOoo glad I got them. I hope you are too, as they are destined to be a much talked about contender, and in my opinion, VICTOR, to Dr Dre's Beats! They look kick ass too, which is always a bonus. 10/10 from me :-D Hope this has helped. Going back to listen to my zen now through my lovely new HAS4X's to enjoy more quality sounds again ;-) 'Thagoatboy' B. Waters
I bought :JVC HAS4X Xtreme Xplosives On Ear Headphone. I have Sony BT reciever with 3,5 mm output and my plan is to use them together. I will write feedback, maybe next week.

Best headphones under $200?

As the subject says, I'm looking for a new pair of headphones that are less than $200, comfortable enough for extended wear, and good sound quality. Any suggestions?
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I love mine: http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears...BJOE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335484030&sr=8-1
If you can get a good fit, sound quality is one of the best.
what kind do u want? in ear? big cans?.... just dont get beats whatever u do
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what kind do u want? in ear? big cans?.... just dont get beats whatever u do
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on ear or bigger, kinda leery of in-ear givewn i dont wanna go deaf before i get married (or maybe I do... hmm, hats an idea... lol). Sorry, shouldve specified that
I have v-moda crossfade lp best headphones I've ever owned XD
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I have v-moda crossfade lp best headphones I've ever owned XD
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+2 I have owned the crossfades LPs for years and still one of my favorite. They come with two cords, one with a phone/mic and one without. The phone cord is made for apple devices, but if you use an app like jays headset control, you can control your phone with the center answer/end button to control stuff like volume and next and prev track, and of course pause and resume.
They have since released the Crossfades LP2, which are a bit better, but I cannot tell much of a difference. Also they have the Crossfades M80s, which look exactly like the crossfades but are on-ear other than over the ear like the LPs are.
Ok, more importantly HOW DO THEY SOUND?!? lol...well they are freakin awesome. Why? Because when listening to music and even watching movies with these guys, you get stereo surround sound that rivals Bose systems. The bass is there, but not over bearing. But if clarity is what you want with a side of bass when it's there and need it, these are it.
How much? Well you can find the LPs under $200 easy, because of the M80 and LP2's being the newer releases. I got mine for $85 bux because no one knew much of v-moda at the time of initial release of the crossfades. The HUGE selling point for me is the cool a$$ exo-skeleton case that it comes with it. I used it on my trip to Hawaii and other plane trips clipped to my carry on without an issue. The case is quarter of the price in my book.
A bit cheaper than that, my second fav at this point are the SOL Republic HD lines. I have both the AMPS HD (earbuds) and Tracks HD (on the ear) headsets.
Both are great. I use the earbuds for portability. These are on the bassy side but still clear. Not as clear as the crossfades IMO, but still a great earbud system. Again these are made for apple products but using the app mentioned before, I can use the center button to operate the phone to my specs. Retail is $100, but I got them for $85 as well.
The Tracks HD...not as portable but I try to lug it with me on car trips whenever I can. These are AWESOME. The clear and hard hitting bass (a bit on the bassy side, but that's my pref) are on par with the $300 plus headphones out there. Just use the equalizer to match your preference and you are golden. The headband is virtually indestructible, the drivers are detachable and the cords are detachable as well. This is made to mix and match different color headbands, drivers, cords, etc...(see fashion) Again has the same issue of being for apple products. Retail on these are $130 but I got them for $87 bux.
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technic...AP4U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335541106&sr=8-1
These are amazing headphones. The people over at head-fi.org would also agree. http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/over-ear
I should say, if you want it wireless, you should try the sony ericsson MW600 (bluetooth stereo headset), really good quality, both for sound as the product itself.
kpjimmy said:
+2 I have owned the crossfades LPs for years and still one of my favorite. They come with two cords, one with a phone/mic and one without. The phone cord is made for apple devices, but if you use an app like jays headset control, you can control your phone with the center answer/end button to control stuff like volume and next and prev track, and of course pause and resume.
They have since released the Crossfades LP2, which are a bit better, but I cannot tell much of a difference. Also they have the Crossfades M80s, which look exactly like the crossfades but are on-ear other than over the ear like the LPs are.
Ok, more importantly HOW DO THEY SOUND?!? lol...well they are freakin awesome. Why? Because when listening to music and even watching movies with these guys, you get stereo surround sound that rivals Bose systems. The bass is there, but not over bearing. But if clarity is what you want with a side of bass when it's there and need it, these are it.
How much? Well you can find the LPs under $200 easy, because of the M80 and LP2's being the newer releases. I got mine for $85 bux because no one knew much of v-moda at the time of initial release of the crossfades. The HUGE selling point for me is the cool a$$ exo-skeleton case that it comes with it. I used it on my trip to Hawaii and other plane trips clipped to my carry on without an issue. The case is quarter of the price in my book.
A bit cheaper than that, my second fav at this point are the SOL Republic HD lines. I have both the AMPS HD (earbuds) and Tracks HD (on the ear) headsets.
Both are great. I use the earbuds for portability. These are on the bassy side but still clear. Not as clear as the crossfades IMO, but still a great earbud system. Again these are made for apple products but using the app mentioned before, I can use the center button to operate the phone to my specs. Retail is $100, but I got them for $85 as well.
The Tracks HD...not as portable but I try to lug it with me on car trips whenever I can. These are AWESOME. The clear and hard hitting bass (a bit on the bassy side, but that's my pref) are on par with the $300 plus headphones out there. Just use the equalizer to match your preference and you are golden. The headband is virtually indestructible, the drivers are detachable and the cords are detachable as well. This is made to mix and match different color headbands, drivers, cords, etc...(see fashion) Again has the same issue of being for apple products. Retail on these are $130 but I got them for $87 bux.
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i disagree… they are not that great, poor isolation and treble
Sennhesier HD 280 pros are great and cheap
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i disagree… they are not that great, poor isolation and treble
Sennhesier HD 280 pros are great and cheap
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We are all entitled to our own opinions . But poor isolation? Well, of course, because they are not over the ear, but they do do well for on-ear. Poor tremble? I can say they are not the greatest, for retail of 130, I never expected to be. Because of my low expectations on these headsets, the surprise was with the equalizer's ability to correct the problem. But again, it's on man's opinion.
I admit I haven't even tried seinnheiser brand yet, because the styles never appealed to me. I have a somewhat small head and with these headphones, it looks like I'm calling the space shuttle. LOL And the wires are like 10ft long! I can't see how one can use these type of headphone other than sitting on an airplane or train for more than 3 hours. Because I know I will tangle up those suckers lol.
As for the OP, you gotta go and test them out yourself. There are a few great recommendations here for you to start off on. GL
Aiaiai tma-1
Beyerdynamic DT 770-PRO
sennheiser hd25
kpjimmy said:
We are all entitled to our own opinions . But poor isolation? Well, of course, because they are not over the ear, but they do do well for on-ear. Poor tremble? I can say they are not the greatest, for retail of 130, I never expected to be. Because of my low expectations on these headsets, the surprise was with the equalizer's ability to correct the problem. But again, it's on man's opinion.
I admit I haven't even tried seinnheiser brand yet, because the styles never appealed to me. I have a somewhat small head and with these headphones, it looks like I'm calling the space shuttle. LOL And the wires are like 10ft long! I can't see how one can use these type of headphone other than sitting on an airplane or train for more than 3 hours. Because I know I will tangle up those suckers lol.
As for the OP, you gotta go and test them out yourself. There are a few great recommendations here for you to start off on. GL
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I got mine at Costco for $80 buck's
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Grado
Does the sensation have enough juice to drive these over-ear big boys?
I'm more interested in the entry level Grados. Can the sensation do justice to them?
OT but does the sensation even play FLAC or other lossless?
(noob. pl bear with me)
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Does the sensation have enough juice to drive these over-ear big boys?
I'm more interested in the entry level Grados. Can the sensation do justice to them?
OT but does the sensation even play FLAC or other lossless?
(noob. pl bear with me)
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Not sure, but the ones I use are intended for iphones for the most part.
Players that play FLAC files are poweramp, winamp and playerpro.
V Moda M-80. One of the best portables around.
In fact I suggest them over the Crossfade LPs/LP2s. I'm on the Head-Fi forums and the Crossfades are considered to be moderately Beats-like in the way that they are overly bassy and the mids/highs suffer. The M-80s are considered more to be audiophile headphones in that they have great bass but also good mids and highs.
V-Moda is also coming out with M-100s around July, which will be circumaural (around ear, unlike how the M-80s are on ear) headphones that will be their new top of the line. They're supposed to have a similar sound signature to the M-80s (so great balance) but with even better bass without ruining mids/highs. Then again, those are going to be $300, so I suggest getting the M-80s. V-Moda just started selling gorgeous white M-80s, you might want to jump on that if they still have some left.
Edit: if the M-80s are too much, you should check out the V-80s. Identical to the M-80s but with HBO True Blood branding and more red on the design. The V-80s are usually cheaper even though they are identical, just because of the branding.
I'm currently using Etymotic HF2. Got them for I believe $110. Here is a link to their site:
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf2.html
They work really well and deliver a great neutral sound, so if you are into adding EQ , it won't be offset by EQ already present in some headphones. Superb isolation. Almost too good. The button works well with players like Player Pro. You can also program the headset button with an app from the play store.
I highly recommend.
Edit - Just saw this post is more for headphones than earphones. In that case I recommend AKG K271s for a closed phones or AKG K702 for an open phone. The K702s need a better amp though to power them.
There are some good suggestions here - Ultimate Ears, Etymonics etc - Very good cans. I personally run a pair of Grado Alessandro MS-1's (they're a Grado set of cans that were altered by Alessandro and came out super good for a better price than the equivalent Grado line) - They are an incredible pair of cans for the price. Not flat, but some of the most fun headphones i've listened to. even better with a bit of quality ripper FLAC and a nice Amp - but they run a charm on the Google music app on my sensation for travel!
Definitely can suggest the Audio Technica M50s
senheiser 205, here it costs 33.00 euro
otherwise idk
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Does the sensation have enough juice to drive these over-ear big boys?
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Of course not.
This is why if you respect your ears and decide to use your phone as music playback device, you need to get an amp like a CMoy or Fiio E11.

Any Audiophiles User On S8+ ? Need Some Questions Answered?

What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
I use Audio-Technica ATH-R70X, They sound great with lossless content, and the output jack on the phone supplies plenty of power to push them. With an external amp you may have better results, but I cant tell. I cant imagine that the S8+ wouldn't playback high quality audio, as long as your source material is high quality. As for the specs, not a clue... sorry!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
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Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
Quad5Ny said:
Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
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I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
vibrantliker said:
I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
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Going by the frequency response graphs:
Meze 99 Classics - They will sound warm (especially female vocals), average sound stage, while still having a crisp high end.
ATH-MSR7 - Not as warm, larger sound stage, high end will have more sparkle and the "I can feel it" part of bass will be more pronounced.
From personal experience:
ATH-M50x - Meh. They can sound great if calibrated, but I never cared for them otherwise.
For best quality, use a lossless formats such as WAV or FLAC but check first that they are not upsampled mp3s. If you want to save space and use mp3 format, look for a bitrate of 256kbps+ (ideally 320kbps)
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You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
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True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
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Why not?
vibrantliker said:
Why not?
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Here see this thread why I choose not to root https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/root-root-t3625793
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical, useful, WORKING, knowledge. I have been a working Professional Musician for over 30 years. In and out of studios recording,,,,,AND many many many hundreds of shows and sound issues that have been dealt with. So take it for what its worth... and now i'm going to go loose myself with some with some Pink Floyd and Mozart..............Peace..
malebornin69 said:
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical useful, knowledge.
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What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
vibrantliker said:
What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
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Exactly what you are doing if that is what sounds good to you.... I would ask you to do one thing and see how it sounds... if you are going to use Viper then just use Viper.... Flatten out every other EQ that you would be sending the EQ'd sound from your phone to... then just use the viper eq until you have the sound you are looking for.
As far as headphones/earbuds are concerned. I have a free standing hat rack full of them.. I use them according to the music I am listening to, But if you want my honest opinion ( and i know someone will call me stupid, not that I care,) I use a pair of Beats, over ear, with noise canceling, wired, as my go to headphones,,,, and the stock earbuds that came with my S8+ .... They are made by AKG.... You can get stupid and spend a lot of money (like thousands) trying to get better sound from a substandard tinny tiny under powered sound card,,, and never find the right equipment to get the job done... and never realize its not the equipment you are buying but the equipment you are using,, inst getting the job done
I had Lg g6 and it has better Audio than the S8 + ,definitely.
I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
+1 to this. With all due respect but no real professional would say that an $18 pair of buds would produce the same sound quality like a +$300 pair of westone or senheiser or any other prestigious brand in ear monitors. This post was addressed to audiophiles and obviously OP you should expect answers from real ones.
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I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
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Samsung's S8 phone connected with the LDAC codec with Sony's WH-1000XM2 headphone is a combination made in heaven! There is presently no other wireless pair that comes close to this combination. The key is the LDAC bluetooth codec.

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