Related
I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?
Your picky.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA Premium App
the mythical perfect screen you hunt doesn't exist
you're clearly being too picky. my screen has a bit of bleed, but i'll be keeping it because i'm never watching a solid black screen, at full brightness, in a dark room. so it doesnt really matter that much to me.
You're not unlucky, and you're not too picky. I just returned my 3rd g2x today because of backlight bleeding. All 3 were so bad that the bleeds were reaching into the center of the screen. Despite what people say about 'You can't see it unless you're in the dark' is not completely true. The last 2 phones had a stripe of brown across the bottom that was blurring out text at the lower half the screen when on a white background. The 3rd was outright yellow.
Upon returning my 3rd, the manager at the store pulled about the remaining 5 they had in stock. She went in the back and checked all 5 in the dark, and all of them had screen bleeding worst than the one I was returing. The manager agreed that it was unacceptable and sent all 5 back. She's calling me when the next shipment comes in, and she's going to personally go through every phone until she finds one that works right.
As for being too picky, that's bull. These guys on the forums will tell you you're being overboard, but the phone is $500 or $199 and a 2 year contract. I know some people have cash to throw around, and the value of the dollar means nothing. But for me, $200 is a lot of money, 2 years of my life is a lot of time, and for me to just accept something that isn't built right because i'm being "too picky" is a load of crap.
If this was a $5000 tv I bet you'd be singing a different tune, but since it's a $500 phone I should just suck it up. Screw that, i'll return 80 of them if I have to. Hopefully someone at corporate will get the hint and call LG about it.
The manager told me that LG already notified all the T-Mobile reps to make them aware of it. So it's not just a matter of pickiness, this a clear cut QA issue on LG's end.
Backlight bleeding is common. It's common because of poor production, and absolutely no QA in Korea. They're shipping these phones out before the glue finishes drying, and thus we're left with crap. I read another post on here that a guy had glue around the edges of the screen. LG needs to get it together, this is out of hand.
The phone is sexy though, and I suggest returning it until you get the one that works right. I've considered giving up and waiting for another, but all the other phones coming up have custom roms and locked bootloaders. I'm uninterested.
konga056 said:
I've went through about 5 different phones and they all have the same screen bleed. Tried multiple stores in case they were from the same batch. Am I just unlucky? Or do all G2X have screen bleeds and the ones that report they don't really arent as picky as I am?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw a post a few days ago of someone who went to replace their phone in the store. They tested the new one in the store and were satisfied, but then got home and locked themselves in a closet or something and saw some bleed and they were upset.
If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.
MWBehr said:
If you're like this person, then ya, you're way too picky. This is an LCD screen, not LED.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.
I don't understand why anyone would accept what is for certain a quality issue. Do you really just not care that much? I have had many phones over the years and none of them have had these issues. I even pulled all of them back out (yes I have kept them all) and checked them under the exact same conditions as the g2x I sent back yesterday. Do you know how many of them had screen bleed? ZERO none of them. I'm not talking about standard extra defused light coming through an LCD. I'm talking about multiple spots were light was coming through because it simply wasn't sealed correctly.
To the people saying you are being too picky or it doesn't matter or they are all like that either don't know what they are talking about, saying that because they don't like you, or just like to be screwed out of their money.
Have a little pride and demand that it is right. I will sent back every single phone I get until I get one that is correctly built.
i paid 500 for mine but i just don't wanna go there get another one and have it be worse than mine and then make it an issue for me to keep going back till i get a good one since the one i have has been straight aside from the minor backlight issue which i can't see unless im in the dark on that black screen
I have to say that my first phone had it bad. I could tell in every app I tried. I saw it before there were threads like these. I returned it.
I did however buy one from the store and went into the neighboring store's bathroom with the light off, total darkness and the screen looked good.
Obviously these are the first batch and may not be perfect but I'd like to think "most" are under normal conditions. I know I wouldn't stand for it. The screen is something you always will use. It would bother me.
If your store doesn't have a good one, then don't buy it. I guess it is save to say there are batches of bad phones out there. The demo unit at the store near me looked great compared to the SGS4G sitting next to it and there were no bleeding. My unit was clean too.
I'd recommend wearing a hoodie and checking before you leave.
strung said:
LG Electronics also makes the iPhone 4 LCD. And it doesn't have this issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea my neighbor has an iPhone 4 and I can see some. Nothing major and he probably doesn't even notice it. I think every LCD phone I had, had some bleeding... hence why I love my Nexus One Amoled... but it had its problems too.
I'd rather have a small bleed then no multitouch or a locked bootloader
out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.
c19932 said:
out of 5 g2x I've seen, all of them had similar bleeds (similar bleed size, similar pattern at each corner), with 1 of them being the worst. All 5 of them are pretty much the same.
with that being said, I think you should really just settle with one. NOT because I am saying you are picky, but that statistically the chance of getting one with minimal bleed is very, very, very low.
I truly have no idea how some people on this forum are getting g2x's with almost no bleed. If you ask me, it's either we have different judgment, or they just don't test their devices in a totally dark room with >50% phone brightness.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
....or different batches throughout the country/world?
MWBehr said:
Google is your friend: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1141752
Anymore random LCD phone names you want to throw out that you think doesn't bleed?
Look, I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, because I've seen several picks of completely unacceptable bleed. I'm simply saying don't expect to have absolutely no bleed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.
i had to go into my dark room and set my screen to 100% to see any bleed...but how often will you keep your screen at full brightness in complete dark? when it's dark i dim my screen, the bleed is nearly impossible to see in typical conditions.
Each of the phones I had i didnt look at them in a completely dark room. But just looking at the screen under normal office light at 50% display and they were all quite noticable. I dont think I'm being too unreasonable but maybe I am.
I think i'll just suck it up and live with it. I honestly wouldnt mind it if the bleeding is in the top two corners where its generally the white status bar but its pretty noticeable in the bottm two. I'll probably just end up waiting until HTC Sensation comes out and sell this.
strung said:
So what is your point? The light bleed existed on the initial batch of iPhone 4's, people complained, and the manufacturing process was fixed. If people don't complain then it won't get fixed. If LG can fix it for the iphone, they can fix it for this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice try again. Apparently you paid no attention to the date of the posts on that thread. The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
Of course, I must also point out that your initial claim was that iphone4s "do not have this problem". They definitely have had this "problem" and sill do.
Just give up or admit you're wrong. Quit clinging to this completely inaccurate claim.
MWBehr said:
The initial post was 4 days ago (3 when I initially made mention of it).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honestly I didn't notice that. I stand corrected!
I'm sorry to ask such a tyro question. What is screen bleed? What does it look like?
I started off with the One and didn't like it because my phones looked like this http://s16.postimg.org/rz4843lud/image.png
Like seriously I went through 3 of them and they were all like that, so I told my network I wasn't happy and I wanted to get a GS4 instead because I knew the build quality would be great.
So I did that and waited for the GS4 to come out and got my phone the other day and oh look another faulty phone. This time with the GS4 I have crazy ghosting issues and a pink tint of the screen, to top that off I have 3/4 dead pixels on the screen. Only now I'm out of exchanges and cannot exchange the phone again, even though I've had 4 faulty phones in a frigging row. Like are phones getting worse or something because this is the first time I've had any trouble. This isn't my picture but this is what my screen looks like at the bottom... http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg
On top of that though the phone has major problems elsewhere.
- I cannot install to Micro SD, like wtf? When did this change? I always could on my last Android phone a couple years ago. There is like 8GB internal on this phone that I can use, it's stupid, I've already filled it up with apps. The One had 29GB usable, so much better and the phone is cheaper too but there is only a 16gb version of the GS4 and it's way more expensive as well. In my mind Micro SD is made useless if I cannot install to it as everything else is on like Play or my pictures are automatically uploaded or video is all streamed now from stuff like Netflix etc etc.
- The loudspeaker is crap, they've made no effort with it, it's worse than my last phone and way worse than the One.
- The camera is crap, the FoV is too narrow, the shutter speed is too slow, no OIS, everything in the video is way too shaky and every picture is over saturated like mad. Like every picture looks like a cartoon and no settings I try is changing that, if you zoom into a picture it looks so stupid. The mics are just ****e, the audio quality is so bad, Samsung have made no attempt to improve them what so ever, good luck recording loud sounds because you cannot...
- Touchwiz is worse than ever, I mean I used to like it when it was based on GB, it was really nice and actually improved Android back then. Now however it's a bloated mess with far too many menus and nothing is where you expect to find it. If I'm trying to turn sensor features on and off for example, you think you've turned one on but it's not working, you have to then go through sub menus to find the one option that is off under that sensor menu. It's laid out so badly, it looks really bad now, so out dated and it lags quite often as a result. The worst thing of all is how much space it takes up....
Apart from the phone feeling so nice in the hand and being well made on the whole, I just cannot see any good qualities. I mean I wish I stuck with the One now, even with the Speaker grills coming off, the phone still manages to be way better. Sadly now I cannot have another exchange and go back and I doubt anyone wants to buy a GS4 with a crap screen. My only option left is just to complain to my Network and refuse to pay them until it is sorted because 4 faulty phones in a row is not acceptable IMO.
Post ur picture first. I dobt know why people come here with other peoples problem making it theirs and bash the devices they cant get.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
dead pixels? I have never seen an amoled screen with dead pixels, can you post a pic?
not saying I don't believe it, but that's just VERY rare
I'm hoping the screen issues are fixed soon by OTA or by the XDA members
install to micro SD... well... where have you been living for the past two years? lol
(there's another way though, check out FolderMount by a fellow XDA member)
loudspeakers, yeah true. not that it matters that much, to me at least. maybe samsung feels the same. they are good enough.
camera, I agree with the FOV. the rest can be improved over time with software, that's what XDA's for.
touchwiz, that's completely subjective. I kinda like it. even though I will be changing it, just because I like to make the phone my own.
advantages over the one?
1.9GHz, AMOLED display, bigger screen, removable (and bigger) battery, micro SD slot, air view (which will be supported by CM from what I've read!!), etc...
you know, there is no perfect phone. it's just up to you to choose which phone's downsides you'd rather live with.
I'm no samsung fan boy, but the S4 is just the phone I want. I can still see why people would chose the One, but I wouldn't.
Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
Tomo1971 said:
Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1, I mean seriously, I can barely notice the gap there. And he ditched One for that? LOL.
And honestly, seems like a troll - intentional or otherwise. Assuming that you are not trolling and is serious, get a replacement because I'm fairly sure that you've got a defective unit. Also post a picture of your screen because we'd all see to see that "miracle" unit.
Tomo1971 said:
Sorry but I've got to laugh.
You changed out three HTC One's cos the fit of the top of the handset was like 0.0001 mm out?
Get a grip man.
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL
Terrorantula said:
oh look another faulty phone. This time with the GS4 I have crazy ghosting issues and a pink tint of the screen, to top that off I have 3/4 dead pixels on the screen. Only now I'm out of exchanges and cannot exchange the phone again, even though I've had 4 faulty phones in a frigging row. Like are phones getting worse or something because this is the first time I've had any trouble. This isn't my picture but this is what my screen looks like at the bottom... http://i.imgur.com/9jhVEnr.jpg
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Call Samsung and tell them the deal, they will correct it.
We get it, you don't like the phone, plenty do but you don't - so what do you expect the XDA community to do for you? Sell it or return it and buy something else, that's how things work in life, or were you hoping for someone to drop around, pick it up and morph it to something that's more suitable? Yeah really...
tuxonhtc said:
+1, I mean seriously, I can barely notice the gap there. And he ditched One for that? LOL.
And honestly, seems like a troll - intentional or otherwise. Assuming that you are not trolling and is serious, get a replacement because I'm fairly sure that you've got a defective unit. Also post a picture of your screen because we'd all see to see that "miracle" unit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the HTC Ones were deemed as faulty by your provider and the S4 is deemed the same, there is no reason why you cant get many many replacements.
Its only if your right to refund/replacement is 'cos I dont like the phone' does the issue of running out of replacements become an issue.
TBH, Ive said before, and I will say again, I think people can be a little too over critical of devices that have gaps or apparent 'faults'. Its only due to forums like this that things get noticed. I can see a very slight pink tinge on my screen but been honest, I doubt if I would of seen that if I didnt know others had reported it.
My S4, as did the Note II before it, seems to be ok build wise.
I owned S3 since it begin shipped. Now I own s4 and have to say that, loudspeaker is much better than s3. I don't know how one's speaker but I am happy with s4's.
The S4 is actually a very good phone all the gesture features etc are very good, sound qaulity in audio is fantastic and loud too, phone looks and feels great,
however I do agree that 8gb internal sucks the not being able to transfer apps doesnt really bother me much, he FoV in camera does suck and so does video audio, especially when compared to my HTC one.
Overall it is a better phone than the HTC one but itsnt worth nearly £90 - £110 more (carphone and phones 4 u) and I will be getting one when the price drops from £580/600.
Get to see what Samsung do because my Network wants nothing to do with it, tbh don't want to deal with them anymore if this is how I get treated. Those gaps on the HTC One weren't off by a little bit, they were slowly lifting up more and more, you could push them in, clearly not glued properly. Why should I settle for a poorly built device? Lock into a contract for 2 years, just not good enough. All three HTC Ones had dead and bright pixels anyways, like had 5+ each but they were so small you couldn't see them unless you turned brightness to full.
Anyways considering my screen looks like that and has massive ghosting issues, exactly like what other people have posted, it's my right to have it changed. I didn't use my pictures because it wasn't coming out on my camera, that image though shows exactly what it looks like much better than any of my shots. I obviously have a GS4 because I compared the camera to the One and the 808 in another post and you can obviously tell from the FoV.
I think this thread has run its course... closing it before the real trolling starts
Hi guys,
Story of my life. I preordered my S8+ on March 30th, received it on April 20th. Reading about pink tint I was happy not to see any. But what I got was green tint across the whole screen. On top of that the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect, as described in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/dark-edges-t3593730
I decided to return it and ordered another two units. The first one was completely pink, using the white balance sliders and the color calibration code (*#15987#) helped a little, but it was still pink. The other one had dead pixels near one of the curved edges and was greenish in one part of the screen. I returned all of them.
I'm stubborn (and like the phone design a lot) so I bought another three (this time I took some photos which I attached below). The first one had extremely greenish tint and as any other greenish screen the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect.
The second one was entirely pink including the pinkish edges and the third one was pink only at the top. Playing with white balance and color calibration did not help, only lowered the effect a little bit.
To make it worse one unit had splinter on the frame straight out of the box.
There is a guy on polish forum of S8+ who got twelve units of S8+ and only one was perfect: http://forum.android.com.pl/topic/314518-ekran-w-galaxy-s8-plus/?page=19#comment-5078692
Is it only in my beloved country so hard to get the perfect screen (by perfect I mean not pink nor green, without dead pixels) or were we so unlucky ? It seems almost impossible to get the good unit. I'm really tired of not being able to enjoy mine new device. I'm thinking about buying another 5 units from different sources. I will give it a last chance ...
PS. To make it clear - I'm buying new phones almost every year since 10 years and never had such issues. I had to replace one of my phones just once in my entire life! So I'm not that kind of person seeing issues everywhere, I'm just not agreeing to pay full price for a device with such flaws.
mrvain84 said:
Hi guys,
Story of my life. I preordered my S8+ on March 30th, received it on April 20th. Reading about pink tint I was happy not to see any. But what I got was green tint across the whole screen. On top of that the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect, as described in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/dark-edges-t3593730
I decided to return it and ordered another two units. The first one was completely pink, using the white balance sliders and the color calibration code (*#15987#) helped a little, but it was still pink. The other one had dead pixels near one of the curved edges and was greenish in one part of the screen. I returned all of them.
I'm stubborn (and like the phone design a lot) so I bought another three (this time I took some photos which I attached below). The first one had extremely greenish tint and as any other greenish screen the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect.
The second one was entirely pink including the pinkish edges and the third one was pink only at the top. Playing with white balance and color calibration did not help, only lowered the effect a little bit.
To make it worse one unit had splinter on the frame straight out of the box.
There is a guy on polish forum of S8+ who got twelve units of S8+ and only one was perfect: http://forum.android.com.pl/topic/314518-ekran-w-galaxy-s8-plus/?page=19#comment-5078692
Is it only in my beloved country so hard to get the perfect screen (by perfect I mean not pink nor green, without dead pixels) or were we so unlucky ? It seems almost impossible to get the good unit. I'm really tired of not being able to enjoy mine new device. I'm thinking about buying another 5 units from different sources. I will give it a last chance ...
PS. To make it clear - I'm buying new phones almost every year since 10 years and never had such issues. I had to replace one of my phones just once in my entire life! So I'm not that kind of person seeing issues everywhere, I'm just not agreeing to pay full price for a device with such flaws.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel you. I don't know what to say to help, but if it is any consolation I know exactly how you are feeling. A few years back I had a similar problem with the BlackBerry Passport. I ended up exchanging about 12 devices before I found one that didn't have flaws out of the box. I got roasted on the CrackBerry forums for it, but proof was all there. I simply got 12 broken devices out of the box... Seems unreal almost, but it happens.
I couldn't care less if there was a green or a blue or a pink or a yellow tint. It still does the same job.
Your best bet is to just wait until the first few batches are pushed out and just wait until samsung makes more phones..let everyone else buy up all the pink ones. This could take months though, maybe about 3. Either way, buying an AMOLED is similar to buying an LCD; you will get lucky if you don't get dead pixels or screen tint issues.
Biggenz said:
I couldn't care less if there was a green or a blue or a pink or a yellow tint. It still does the same job.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's true but wouldn't an older device as well? People should be getting quality products for the price.
Biggenz said:
I couldn't care less if there was a green or a blue or a pink or a yellow tint. It still does the same job.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Couldnt agree more!!!!
Don't see what the problem is regarding screen tint issue, Samsung is aware of it and said they can address it through a software update. I would've just waited for that and changed my screen color ratio in the mean time. Also the pictures you showed with the dead pixels, either I'm blind or it wouldn't honestly make a difference or you wouldn't even notice it in daily usage. Just my two cents
TheBrandonWRX said:
That's true but wouldn't an older device as well? People should be getting quality products for the price.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
People should indeed get quality products for their money, but this seems to be a new obsession when it comes to new phones. People sitting there all day looking at a white screen trying to find an imperfection. If you use the phone day to day, there is no way you would even notice it.
aroy97 said:
Don't see what the problem is regarding screen tint issue, Samsung is aware of it and said they can address it through a software update. I would've just waited for that and changed my screen color ratio in the mean time. Also the pictures you showed with the dead pixels, either I'm blind or it wouldn't honestly make a difference or you wouldn't even notice it in daily usage. Just my two cents
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Biggenz said:
People should indeed get quality products for their money, but this seems to be a new obsession when it comes to new phones. People sitting there all day looking at a white screen trying to find an imperfection. If you use the phone day to day, there is no way you would even notice it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When you pay $1,300 for something, like I did for my S8+, you want it to be flawless, at least physically. We all work hard for our money, one way or the other. I won't stand for throwing it away on a semi-defective device, no matter how small the defect.
dhorgas said:
When you pay $1,300 for something, like I did for my S8+, you want it to be flawless, at least physically. We all work hard for our money, one way or the other. I won't stand for throwing it away on a semi-defective device, no matter how small the defect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought I was having a screen issue ... but it was just my eyes .. however im having audio output issues and im pissed off ... had to use a speaker booster for everything ... at full volume its like 1/3 of full on my note 4 ... going to Verizon to test the sample phones to mine
dhorgas said:
When you pay $1,300 for something, like I did for my S8+, you want it to be flawless, at least physically. We all work hard for our money, one way or the other. I won't stand for throwing it away on a semi-defective device, no matter how small the defect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ohh oh... You hoping for something that will never happen, good luck!
cantenna said:
Ohh oh... You hoping for something that will never happen, good luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got a perfect device with the S8+, thankfully, on first go. Software wise, different story, but HW is flawless. It's hit and miss.
If they are going to start setting a precedent where they are asking for laptop money for a phone, then we need to respond by expecting that it at least comes as advertised. When we start dropping our standards while they keep raising the price, then we are all in for ever-increasing amounts of agro as they will just assume x% of people will just take it up the wrong-un and keep coming back for more. For this money, if there are any hardware defects out of the box, back it goes. But those are just my standards.
In response to the OP, sounds like you are ordering replacments from the same borked batch. I'd either find a new source or wait for the scruffy units to go elesewhere.
dhorgas said:
I got a perfect device with the S8+, thankfully, on first go. Software wise, different story, but HW is flawless. It's hit and miss.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya, its also entirely subjective and dependant upon the individual, but good on ya for being at peace.
Software wise, im rooted and am able to enhance my android experiance on this device were i deem fit; so very pleased with this device.
Mine is absolutely flawless, want to buy ?)
cantenna said:
Ya, its also entirely subjective and dependant upon the individual, but good on ya for being at peace.
Software wise, im rooted and am able to enhance my android experiance on this device were i deem fit; so very pleased with this device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is nothing subjective about having a color balanced display, no visible marks, flaws, or any other defects anywhere on the body, and no dead or stuck pixels. All ports and speakers work, mics all work, etc. No, physically perfect is not subjective. It's very much objective, based on factual observations about the conditions of the device. Besides, as the poster above has said as well, if they're going to be asking laptop money for a phone it better be flawless.
dhorgas said:
There is nothing subjective about having a color balanced display, no visible marks, flaws, or any other defects anywhere on the body, and no dead or stuck pixels. All ports and speakers work, mics all work, etc. No, physically perfect is not subjective. It's very much objective, based on factual observations about the conditions of the device. Besides, as the poster above has said as well, if they're going to be asking laptop money for a phone it better be flawless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your argument is still predicated on your interpretation of perfection, so that it is subjective! Feel free to dispute that further, lol.
cantenna said:
Your argument is still predicated on your interpretation of perfection, so that it is subjective! Feel free to dispute that further, lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a pretty comical comment. Your argument amounts to everything being subjective. Why is a square a square? Why is it not a triangle? Because a square has 4 equal sides and 90 degree angles connecting all sides to each other. That's not subjective; it is mathematically objective. The same way, a perfect display is one that is without defects. A perfect phone body is one without scuffs. You either have dead pixels or you don't. You either have scuffs or you don't. Your display is centered in the frame of the phone, or it isn't. Your display is using a proper white-point, or it is not. These are not subjective things. The state is binary.
mrvain84 said:
Hi guys,
Story of my life. I preordered my S8+ on March 30th, received it on April 20th. Reading about pink tint I was happy not to see any. But what I got was green tint across the whole screen. On top of that the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect, as described in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/dark-edges-t3593730
I decided to return it and ordered another two units. The first one was completely pink, using the white balance sliders and the color calibration code (*#15987#) helped a little, but it was still pink. The other one had dead pixels near one of the curved edges and was greenish in one part of the screen. I returned all of them.
I'm stubborn (and like the phone design a lot) so I bought another three (this time I took some photos which I attached below). The first one had extremely greenish tint and as any other greenish screen the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect.
The second one was entirely pink including the pinkish edges and the third one was pink only at the top. Playing with white balance and color calibration did not help, only lowered the effect a little bit.
To make it worse one unit had splinter on the frame straight out of the box.
There is a guy on polish forum of S8+ who got twelve units of S8+ and only one was perfect: http://forum.android.com.pl/topic/314518-ekran-w-galaxy-s8-plus/?page=19#comment-5078692
Is it only in my beloved country so hard to get the perfect screen (by perfect I mean not pink nor green, without dead pixels) or were we so unlucky ? It seems almost impossible to get the good unit. I'm really tired of not being able to enjoy mine new device. I'm thinking about buying another 5 units from different sources. I will give it a last chance ...
PS. To make it clear - I'm buying new phones almost every year since 10 years and never had such issues. I had to replace one of my phones just once in my entire life! So I'm not that kind of person seeing issues everywhere, I'm just not agreeing to pay full price for a device with such flaws.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
see here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3593263
i have these issues since years, but this time it's extreme...
I've seen a lot (nearly 20) S8+ now, only 3 of them had an almost perfect screen!
the deviations are really huge, and that's the biggest problem in my eyes...
Sent from my SM-G955F using XDA-Developers Legacy app
*sigh*
Can we get a moderrator to change the title of this thread to; LCD is better than AMOLED (because this is what this thread is really about(I prefer amoled btw))
Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
evak2979 said:
After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
EtherealRemnant said:
I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
evak2979 said:
Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
EtherealRemnant said:
No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
evak2979 said:
Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah out of all phones I've ever ordered, this one is by far my favorite. Ridiculous battery life, no lag, great screen, no gimmicks (edge sense is actually quite useful - I use it to launch my camera immediately when I'm out and about), excellent camera, doesn't overheat, crystal clear call quality, loud speaker set up... Only thing I don't like is News Republic chewing up my battery and not being able to disable it.
I haven't even rooted it yet. Every other phone I've rooted within a week, oftentimes the day I've received it. I ordered it May 16th from HTC on pre-order and got it on June 9th. No phone has ever been in my possession that long without being modded somehow, even if it was just changing the launcher.
The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
x_d_n said:
The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
evak2979 said:
Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm very OCD regarding LCD screen and the phone itself. The phone is perfect except for the light bleeding, a stuck pixel and some sound static in earphone. Otherwise the phone is perfect like the camera, sound, battery life and performance.
As I bought the phone from Hong Kong its a pain in the... To return it. So with a 10% discount off that seller gave me I learned to enjoy and love the phone.
My HTC One X, M8x, 10 U11 and the S8+ all suffered from flaws being the S8+ the worst (random restarting and pinkish screen tone) so I'm not a lucky person about phones.
@evak2979 i sent you a message but basically it's about accepting defeat when it comes to small flaws, unfortunately there's not more to it. Although of course, if your phone has serious build issues that no one else has it should go back to HTC.
I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
KejPi said:
I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like I told my new pal on PM, I got the S8+ new for a very good price (539, UK).
If that sinks, I'll bite the bullet and return to HTC. It's funny because I don't mind scuffs, or scratches, or what. I just want a normal okay screen. I remember being happy with Note 4, with S5, With M8, With M9.
Then this new fashion started with every display being the dumbs
And the S8+ arrived with dust under the glass.
I've fought for a long time with my OCD to accept that AMOLEDs will never have consistent whites (though my one plus 3t is perfect, the one phone I've kept over the months). As of late with the S8 it's also been, full red edges, dead pixels, dust specs.
Let's try the U11 again. If it just has light bleed and no dead pixels I'll keep it...
I don't have light bleed.
I use edge to launch my calendar.
Sound through the earphones is shockingly good!
It looks dated in any other color but blue or red.
Those bezels? Ug.
The screen is beautiful and they've coated with oleophilics that feel INCREDIBLE.
The camera is excellent.
It's a very VERY good phone.
I have it on mine, but It's hardly even noticeable... Definitely not a game-changer for me. It's not enough for me to return it for a new one.
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
evak2979 said:
Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
evak2979 said:
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Jadraker said:
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
evak2979 said:
Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Jadraker said:
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nah mine is dead dead.
I am considering a 4th U11. At this point, I don't even care about the light bleed. But 3/3 with dead pixels, it can't just be bad luck. That's the thing. I mean this is very bad QC. None of the reviewers are mentioning things like this. Or the issues with the S8 screen.
I think at this point someone needs to step up and say : ok guys, these are the GOOD things about the phone. But there is also
S8 (red tints, even after patch. Bad smudges on grey. Dust particles under panel)
U11 (Dead pixels. Light bleed at bottom of the screen).
In the end, the only trustworthy review is XDA forums and its users.
Have a Note 9 which I'm keeping, just got the Ultra and the display is a disappointment.
Side by side with the 9, colors are not as vibrant, contrast is so-so, sharpness is off. Fine details, icon edges, etc. are fuzzy.
Now, I'm anal about this kinda stuff. If I never saw the 9's screen, I'd never know and think it's fine, and to most, it would be. But this is me you're talkin' to. ?
I don't know whether to return it or pray for a Samsung fix. I'm not a gambling man. I've gone through every display setting and resolution there is, including dev options. I'm pretty experienced.
Maybe it's Nova launcher, but it's just not as nice as the 9's screen. Exact same home screen, icon theme, everything identical.
Your thoughts/opinions/gut feelings? Got till next week to return to Best Buy.
Thanks a lot,
Rich
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
VICosPhi said:
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I posted in another thread that I got an app - Screen Balance - from the play store. With that I was able to get rid of more green as it has several adjustments for white balance. Use various adjustments judiciously. I like things cool. Seems *all* amoleds look green to me anyway.
Lest anyone thinks I'm spamming the app, since I mentioned it in another thread, I am not. Just a much happier user. ?
Doesn't solve the aforementioned problems though.
My gripe is temporary image retention. Using dark mode and gray screens, sometimes, the outline of the keyboard will remain on the screen for 5-10 seconds. I notice that if one uses the phone in light mode, it seems perfect, but once in dark mode, it has some minor flaws.
It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
Mrplennium said:
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
*Detection* said:
Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
Mrplennium said:
It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh geezzzz...that:s not encouraging.. looks like I'm holding on hoping for a soft/firmware update. A replacement would probly have the same or worse issue. No burn in here so far.
Definitely keeping my note 9!
Mrplennium said:
Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your screenshot looks clear to me on my PC, so if you are seeing burn-in then it will be on your screen and will need a replacement, what I was saying is you cannot send someone a SS to show them the burn-in, they would need to look at your screen with their eyes
Mrplennium said:
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
*Detection* said:
Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
warriorvibhu said:
Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
Mrplennium said:
Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same image on the screen for extended periods can cause it too, so if you're always in WhatsApp chat or Facebook app and the same thing is always on the screen you'll be more likely to see it then too
Mrplennium said:
Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
warriorvibhu said:
Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I did see the issues with the Samsung cases causing the burn in as well. What's funny is that if you speak to a supervisor at the Samsung customer service number and tell them about the screen issues and you have someone else with a Samsung phone call them back hours or a day later and get the same supervisor, they'll tell you that they never had one complaint about the screen. Unless Samsung instructs them it's an issue they can fix, they will not admit it. Still hoping Samsung can correct the yellowish greenish overtone of the general display.
*Detection* said:
Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
Limeybastard said:
Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Scratches show even better ? :silly: