This is a question about magnetic USB cables and waterproof phones such as the Galaxy S8...
I assume you know what I am talking about when I say 'magnetic USB cable' ... One of those cables where you leave a magnetic 'lug' plugged into the micro usb or type c port on the phone so that you essentially get a magnetic charger setup similar to the mag-safe port found on Macbooks.
My question is, if I leave one of the lugs plugged into a waterproof phone, will the exposed copper pins cause the phone to short out in water (or even pocket sweat for that matter)? Does anyone have any experience with these cables (such as the WSKEN Mini 2) and using them in water? How does the waterproofing mechanism work on the phone's type c port? If it works by detecting a 'short' between 2 pins and disabling the port while wet,
maybe the exposed pins would create the same effect, depending on which pins are brought out of the type c port...
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Hello, I'm not into magnetic chargers and there's no details about how it works at some point, however i thought about your question and it was simple to answer regarding the info available on the Internet.
the magnetics also will transfer the their energy into an electric one, thus, if you put it in water, you know how electrical energy and water go, so i don't recommend placing it in water as it will have the same effect as the normal charger,but while doing my researches, i noticed that some phones that after they got a wet port, the usb cable chargers didn't work, where as the magnetic charger did.
About the Galaxy waterproof
water can remain in the handset after it's been dunked – and if you add electricity, that can lead to terminal short circuiting. so if it was to detect something wrong with the amount of current running to it, it wouldn't charge and will warn you.
I hope that i could help answering the questions
I have direct experience with this situation via my Motorola G3 mounted on my motorcycle. This past week, the unit charged fine on a 600 mile trip, some of which was wet. However, on the return home, the phone went dead, and I realized it wasn't charging correctly. Upon disassembly, I found the magnetic lug visibly blackened on the "male" section. Evidently some moisture got in and things shorted out. In addition, the phone's charging port is now critical of how a standard usb charging cable is plugged in, so I assume there is some damage to the charging port, as well. Luckily, this phone's charging port is a fairly easy and inexpensive repair (<$10 part, no soldering). I did try to use a second mag cable and lug on the phone, but it was non-functional, hence my assumption of damage to the phone's USB port.
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Hi every one!
As you can see, all us Diamond owners has a Weird USB conection, is not so standard comparing to the Mini USB!
BUT! IT FITS, and IT WORKS ANYWAY!
I was on a trip, and forgot my USB cabel, i couldn't charge or use the Phone as a modem, så a go the idea, lookt att some pictures and, tryid out!
I could charge my battery and i could use my phone as a modem.
Here is the picture of a USB 8-pin mini USB ( HTC USB ) And a Standard Mini USB 4-pin.
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I guess that the other pins are for audio and other stuff
Try it!
Any Standard Mini USB works
Thanks for sharing but I think we all knew that one already.
And we should call you Amerigo Vespucci, but I`d be happier if I could name you Google or Search sorry
i hardly ever use the HTC cable with any of my HTC phones... to start with , my HTC USB cable is in the mains charger!
Give the guy a break. I remember when I first tried my charger and USB cable that I had with a previous HTC phone and found out it worked. I plugged it in to my Diamond VERY gingerly and winced, hoping not to fry my phone. Hallalujah! I remembered saying to myself. Now I don't have to buy another charger or cable!
I just had that HALLELUJAH moment myself! Thanks
TomInMB said:
Give the guy a break. I remember when I first tried my charger and USB cable that I had with a previous HTC phone and found out it worked. I plugged it in to my Diamond VERY gingerly and winced, hoping not to fry my phone. Hallalujah! I remembered saying to myself. Now I don't have to buy another charger or cable!
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I'm nominating you for funniest avatar awards! At least we'll all be able to take you seriously.
But in regards to your comment, yeah as long as the voltage is the same you're generally pretty safe. The ampage rating don't tend to mean that much as the device will only draw what it needs (in the case that your charger is rated at 1000mAH but your device draws less than that). In the case your charger can't provide enough ampage then I believe the charging process simply takes longer that it would with the 'correct' charger.
If the voltage is different then you can cause serious damage to your device and who knows you could theoretically start a fire.
Rejoice! I've been *****ing all morning about me forgetting the cable at work, and now for the weekend it's low on power. I've been browsing sites trying to figure out what cable i needed to order and i came up short - except for ordering an original which wasn't in stock.
Consider this a 'thanks' and a bump
Hello, ive bought these on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-CAR-CHARGER.../180497049900?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/Micro-USB-Data-...ARE-BB-Storm-/170525850383?pt=PDA_Accessories
Trying to use them to charge my phone in my car, but no go. When i connect the cable it asks me if i want to connect to kies, mass storage etc. I just press the back button, and phones tells me its charging, when in fact, its not, battery is actualy draining, and it gives me some weird msg about sd card. (In norwegian)
Any way to resolve this, or do i have to buy an original samsung charger?
did you try the USB cable on your computer?
does it charge when you plug it into the computer using the USB cable you got off ebay?
possibly the car charger is bad, if the USB cable works on your computer
I havent yet, i will do so and report back
The cable does not charge in the pc, and i can not mount my sd card on my pc with the cable, so, i guess its the cable then
Maybe this will do the trick: http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Sync-Charge...895319?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20b30c83d7
They say its for samsung i9000
Also! have you made sure the charger supplys the right amps, if you get one even with the right voltage if not the right amps you will still get battery drain! I had this issue when the gf's blackberry charger got swapped with my hero charger by accident, took me ages to realise why the battery was still draining when using co pilot on long car journeys!!
get this one instead
2000 mAh (2A) charger
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.25177
i'm using it, super good
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Get the HTC C200 charger.
I paid a lot for this phone so paying 15 euros dollars for a car charger makes sense
paying more for something that comes from the same manufacturing center (China) will not make it any better.
Thanks for all the good tips. Ill check those out
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paying more for something that comes from the same manufacturing center (China) will not make it any better.
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I've used cheap ass car chargers and all they do is get hot and aren't very efficient. Have a HTC mini usb charger and it stays cool while charging, which means it isn't wasting any power...so to me...its worth paying extra
I picked up the Nokia DT-900 from my local Verizon store for $49. When placing the device on the charger it will charge cycle a number of times before stabilizing into a charge. Last night I had a issue where I had to remove and replace the device because the charger was blinking after failure to charge 10+ times. The positioning doesn't matter as long as it's on the keystone, although the Nexus slides off rather easily.
The stock adapter is +12VDC 0.75A. I tried hacking in a +12VDC 1.75A transformer for faster charging rates but the device failed to do anything. I re-spliced the stock transformer and it still works. With daydream activated the keystone maintains to drains the battery as it cannot provide enough charge to power the device. For $49 this product is a compromise to failure in wireless charging technology due to charging rate and slick surface.
Battery Mix reports +/- 10%/hour charge
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Inside the device. The back pops right off with a proper tool. Notice the 3 temp sensors between the coils.
Underside of the circuit
The maximum charge rate is set for 789 mA and at 4ish volts this is less than 4 watts. When the battery gets full the rate goes down, so try again with an empty battery.
There is not much use in a bigger adapter.
This Qi charger isn't good, I tried it .
Bye!
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Nokia Qi charger and magnet
Hi, I'm sorry if the question is a nonsense but.... would a usual magnet, attached to the plastic cover of the charging plate, interfere with charging capabilities of the plate? or is there any Qi standard wireless charger, which would hold the phone with a magnet? would be a good charging accessory of the car.
thank you
Ended up returning mind and going with the WCP-300. Had little to no luck with these, zero issues with WCP-300.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
I got one of these.. and the 1st few times I tried it, it was working great.. no issues at all...
now I can't get my N4 to stay charging for more than 5 minutes (then it stops, beeps, tries again, fails, etc)... I leaning towards returning it.
Does anyone know what the thickness without the casing is?
I've got some new tear down pics I will post soon. I just ended up using this charger in my car based on your review and a few others. thanks for posting this.
lukihnio said:
Hi, I'm sorry if the question is a nonsense but.... would a usual magnet, attached to the plastic cover of the charging plate, interfere with charging capabilities of the plate? or is there any Qi standard wireless charger, which would hold the phone with a magnet? would be a good charging accessory of the car.
thank you
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I would also like to know this!
I've heard no but it goes against the physics, so I'd say yes. It's not a good idea to have magnets next to a phone anyway, unless it's a weak case one. That ought to be OK on the charger too
By backwards engineered alien technology.....
feanor3 said:
Does anyone know what the thickness without the casing is?
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http://imgur.com/b6S52RE
6 mm
You can open it up like this to make it thinner:
http://imgur.com/x5QyghB
4 mm PCB with power plug
3 mm PCB without power plug (if you solder your own power supply to it from car cigarette lighter for example which also regularly uses same 12 volts as this Qi charger takes as input)
4 mm coil
All measurements are approximate.
Is it possible on X2 ? I see wireless charging receivers available for Android devices without Qi built in. Anyone know if one could be used with the X2?
Yes there are wireless chargers out there will work with any device that has a metal body.
I thought the receiver had to be on contact with the battery... But if not great... Can you send me a link please to some suitable wireless chargers? thank you
It is interesting were to find a wireless charger for X2, anyone has a link where to buy one?
on the other hand, is it possible to fix NFC in the Mediapad X2 ? It would be great
The misinformation in this topic is large...
Wireless charging normally uses phone's with a plastic case because the coils on the inside ( its induction charging ), capture the energy and transfer it to the battery ( using specific electronic ).
The problem with phone's like the X2 is that there backside is metal. Metal will disrupt the induction charging ( technically it will turn your phone into a hot plate for cooking ). Qualcomm has some technology to enable wireless charging with a metal case phone but its more or less proof of concept. I do not remember if anybody is using this now.
But you can NOT do wireless charging without the correct technology in the form off:
a) integrated in your phone = a coil + a bit of electronics that connects to your phone's charging
b) a external coil that connects to your usb port ( like a external charging case ).
Yes, without nfc built in, the best bet is the external coil pack with a connection to the micro-usb port.
Right now only something like this will work.
http://www.qiwireless.com/wireless-charging-htc-one-m8/
You can use a opaque case to hide this stuff behind the phone back.
bark1234 said:
Right now only something like this will work.
http://www.qiwireless.com/wireless-charging-htc-one-m8/
You can use a opaque case to hide this stuff behind the phone back.
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3 remarks:
1- I'm not sure that even if the back metallic plate of the phone is not between the coil of the charger and the one of the receiver, it will not heat (and eat the efficiency) under the magnetic field.
2- Those Qi usually produce <500mA to the battery, quite slow with ordinary phones, imagine with the 5000mA one of the mediapad X2
3 As the USB is at the bottom extreme right of the phone, the recievers with a USB connection in their middle will not fit.
I have tested the rear of the phone and it does not appear to be magnetic and if that is the case then a qi mod is highly possible. With the research I have done, aluminum is okay, like the iphones are made of powder coated stainless steal so it would not work on them. I found a 1amp charger n amazon, I don't believe they make anything bigger because of heat. 1amp takes longer but it works.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/internal-wireless-charging-t2819398/post54785723#post54785723
http://www.amazon.com/KingMas%C2%AE-Universal-Wireless-Charging-Receiver/dp/B01193R14O/ref=sr_1_14?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1453963091&sr=1-14&keywords=qi+receiver
It works fine with no issues. Only problem is the X2 usb is off to the side like someone mentioned.
I use the http://www.aliexpress.com/item/QI-w...-7D-503L-7D-501u-MediaPad-X1/32389792024.html
You have to request the usb version that is reversed (For the X1 and X2)
I also made a car holder with the Qi built in. (.stl provided) However the fine tuning of where you have the Qi adapter on the phone is a pain.
The sensitivity is tough, hitting bumps will make it go off and on, but no big deal.
Anyone ever find QI wireless charger receiver for X2? As mentioned in previous posts - all the ones out there have the USB plug in the middle, which doesnt fix the X2
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Anyone ever find QI wireless charger receiver for X2? As mentioned in previous posts - all the ones out there have the USB plug in the middle, which doesnt fix the X2
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Bump...anyone?
POGO: I have Googled but cannot determine if it is a generalized interface type, a standardized proprietary plug/jack, an clever acronym, who knows. Would some kind soul point me at a tutorial?
Samsung Xcover Pro: Because I want a rugged smartphone with a removable battery and no bloatware, I got one of them. It's common else where, but not in the US. It's been my smartphone experience that one of the smartphone weak spots is the connection, which gets plugged and unplugged so many times, is around and collects crud...and when it fails, you are SOL. This phone has a POGO plug. Is there a USB to POGO cable for this phone? Since the US market presence is so small, you cannot even buy the replaceable battery, you have to get it shipped from Europe. Gamber-Johnson makes a nice cradle with a POGO connection for this phone, for a mere <gasp> $150
I know, I know, I am a masochist who always takes the path of greatest resistance (to say nothing of impedance and reluctance).
Maybe the simplest thing would be to get a magnetic USB-C cable to preserve the socket on the phone.
It's called a POGO because of the gold-plated pins. They are spring-loaded like a pogo stick. They are used in applications where a drop-in cradle provides support for the device that's to be charged.
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I would like to 3D print a cradle for my Xcover Pro. For now, I am also using a magnetic USB-C solution.
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I would like to 3D print a cradle for my Xcover Pro. For now, I am also using a magnetic USB-C solution.
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I have purchased a Samsung Xcover6 Pro and I'm also looking at 3D printing a dock. Did you or anyone else find any electrical details of the POGO pins? Can we just apply voltage to the pins (in which polarity?) or is there a communications protocol required to enable charging?
Apologies everyone. I didn't think to check Thingiverse. There's a design here and it appears to accept voltage with VCC left and GND right.
XCover Pro Pogo Charger by xnappo
Remixed from @julvr's excellent work for XCover Pro. I used these pogo pins:https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FQ52W88/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (and I have a lot of them so....) 9V is needed for Quick Charging - could support higher but 9V should be safe for now. Once...
www.thingiverse.com
Good find! I ended up buying a commercial unit from KOAMTAC. It was expensive but I do not regret it after more than a year of use. The charger for a spare battery was a plus.
https://www.amazon.com/KOAMTAC-1-Slot-Charging-Cradle-XCover/dp/B084KXP3BP
EDIT: oops..never mind...just realized I was looking at a different phone model..I'm a tool, lol.
I can report that I have designed and printed a cradle for my Xcover 6 Pro but the tolerences are very tight and it requires fiddling with the position of the phone to get it to work. I initially used a bench power supply which resulted in good charging speed but I connected to the positive and negative of an old broken (phone end) USB lead and I am getting slow charging speed from a USB charger. I assume that some circuit is required on the data pins to enable high current on a USB outlet. I have tried several USB power supplies.
EDIT: I have replaced the USB cable with a 5V 3.5A PSU (non USB) and AccuBattery is reporting ~6.5W charging speed.
I can also confirm that there is no increase in charging speed between 9V and 12V and charging shuts down at 12V.
Typical way of enabling fast charging is to short the USB data pins together, but this maxes at 1.5amps by USB spec, or 7.5 watts. Beyond that you're getting in to data signals to negotiate higher charge rates.
A fairly decent explanation is here - https://microchipdeveloper.com/usb:bc12