Help with gaming on a mobile hotspot - General Questions and Answers

So basically I want to game online on my ps4 and I would want to use my mobile's 4g to play online, however , whenever i try to do it i get the infamous nat type 3 issue , this is probably because my carrier provides a private ip and not public one , i would like to know if there is a way to fix this. Ive heard of ways of how one can connect the hotspot to a laptop and that with an ethernet cable to the ps4 to make it work while doing something on the latter side of the bridged connection , am willing to do it if anyone can post a simple guide/tut on how to do it, thanks

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Xbox 360 Bridged?

Ok, I have bridged a connection from my laptop (xp pro) to my Xbox 360 with a crossover cable. I have my ppc 6800 mogul tethered to the laptop to provide the internet with ICS. Here is my problem... When I test everything out, I get a NAT setting of "moderate". I need to get the NAT settings "open" in order for it to work correctly. I have played like this for the past couple of days, but I have to have one of my friends invite me anytime that I want to play.
Do you think that it is my phone is the problem, or the laptop? I wish I could just get cable or dsl, but it's not available in my area.
Any help welcome!
Thanks!
Honestly I'm shocked you are trying to do this at all. All the XBOX people I know won't even use a router because of lag.
yeah i don't think using the internet connection from your cell phone could be expected to fully support the bandwidth required to run xbox live...
skanndelus said:
yeah i don't think using the internet connection from your cell phone could be expected to fully support the bandwidth required to run xbox live...
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Microsoft requires 256 down and 64 up. I have supplied 1.5 down and 144 up. The only thing that I seem to be having a problem with is a little bit of lag (150 to 250ms). My real issue is the ability to connect to others to join in a session. That is where my NAT settings come into play. If you have a moderate or strict setting, it is almost impossible to join in.
that's pretty near... i would have never thought it could support it... awesome
dont understand what you mean only because i dont have a 360 but i have done this before.
Just replace the ps2 for 360 and the wifi connection for the cell connection. Not saying it will help but maybe something will. it may have things that you didn't do.
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This won't work.
ATT and most providers data networks uses NAT.
This means your phone gets an address like 10.0.42.123 in ATT's cellular network -- and has a public IP of e.g. 64.2.3.2.
Obviously this is NAT -- and it of course is not in a DMZ, nor does it have port forwarding for XBOX live to your cell's IP.
From wikipedia:
In computer networking, Network Address Translation (NAT, also known as Network Masquerading, Native Address Translation or IP Masquerading) is a technique of transceiving network traffic through a router that involves re-writing the source and/or destination IP addresses and usually also the TCP/UDP port numbers of IP packets as they pass through.
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Drawbacks
Hosts behind NAT-enabled routers do not have true end-to-end connectivity and cannot participate in some Internet protocols. Services that require the initiation of TCP connections from the outside network, or stateless protocols such as those using UDP, can be disrupted. Unless the NAT router makes a specific effort to support such protocols, incoming packets cannot reach their destination. Some protocols can accommodate one instance of NAT between participating hosts ("passive mode" FTP, for example), sometimes with the assistance of an Application Layer Gateway (see below), but fail when both systems are separated from the Internet by NAT.
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You can call your provider and ask them to open port forwarding, but they won't know what you're talking about -- and since they give DHCP leases the port forward rules would only be temporary anyways. Besides, that would cause serious issues for everyone on their network if they forwarded a port for you. (E.G. Any inbound port request would go to you, disrupting service for other customers.)
I doubt gameplay would be usable over 3G or EVDO anyways.
DUDE! i have been tryin 360+Mogul
i have been tryin and tryin... took my 360 apart tryin some mods. still... ONLY can connect my Xbox 360... to my laptop... which is connected online by my mogul Via WifiRouter-3g to-Usb. WHY cant someone figure out HOW... and Make it available to DIRECTLY CONNECT XBOX 360 ONLINE THROUGH POCKET PC INTERNET SHARING?!?!?! i know i dont have the knowledge... but somone does.... WM5torage... im sure you have heard of it...? it is a strong base.. when i connect my phone to 360 with that app runnin... my 360 thinks about it for min... then decides it wont recognise it...im outta ideas... somone....
IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES!!! modify an xbox 360 shell.. and a small laptop screen with xbox harddrive/with a small computer all in one... lay xbox on lap.. flip open the lid.. wireless keyboard and internet.... whoa...
HA my idea has been posted... anyone does it ill sue... jk... kinda.
OH and by the way..
this setup... mogul-wifirouter-3g-usb... usb to pc...pc...eithernet-xbox3sexy... i will dominate all. cod4-BattleField2ModernCombat and bad company lag? whats that

IP address when sharing internet with laptop

I use need to use my phone to get my laptop online a lot. I had the Epic for two years, and rooted that so I could use the wireless tether. I have not rooted my Q LTE yet. Most of the time I don't care how the connection sets up my IP. However, I do have times when I need my laptop to be online and on a wired network connection simultaneously. When I tried to do that recently using Easy Tether, I kicked my IP for the laptop out of the 192.168.1.X range that I needs for the wired network. Anyone have advice on an app that will not bump my IP outside that? I tried FoxFi and can't get that to even work right (heard something about a known bug).

[Q] WiFi tethering bridge to existing access point

Hi there,
At my girlfriend's house there's an existing WiFi access point for their home network and they also have a bunch of computers wired in with ethernet cable. Mobile reception in the house is terrible but I've found one spot by a window where I can sustain a pretty decent dc-hsdpa link. I'm able to tether my laptop to my phone, the phone creates a new WiFi network ap and my laptop connects to that. That works fine.
The thing is, what I'd really like to do, is to have access to the dc-hsdpa connection from some of the wired computers on her home network. To do that I want to have my phone bridge the house network - via their existing WiFi ap - to the mobile internet connection. I'd like the phone to provide a gateway on the house network that could be manually used from the other computers. (I want to avoid using DHCP or anything as it will disrupt the network for other users.)
I know this is technically possible but I'm struggling to find an application that allows for this functionality. I've spent a good amount of time searching around the internet but to no avail. Does anyone know where I can look or of a suitable application? (My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505 flashed to run a rooted variant of the play edition KitKat rom.) I'm happy to pay money.
Cheers, Dave.

PS4 Remote Play Solutions?

I am trying to get the PS4 Remote Play ap / feature to work better. I have changed my PS4 to DMZplus mode so that it shows nat type 1 / open. I changed the wireless channel from 2 to 9 to clear up any possible congestion there. One interesting thing I noticed on the settings menu of the ap, is you can check the nat type presumably of the phone, because my phone shows nat type 3 in that settings menu, but I show nat type 1 on the actual ps4 network settings and connection test.
Anyway this is super frustrating and completely disapointing. I feel so dumb. I changed wireless providers from AT&T to T-Mobile basically for this phone and the PS4 remote play integration, and myself and many others cant get it to work reliably like it does on PS Vita.
I am using AT&T Uverse for my home network, with a Pace 5031NV gateway from AT&T.
Anyone have any magic tricks to get PS4 Remote Play to work stable as advertized?
HappyGreg said:
I am trying to get the PS4 Remote Play ap / feature to work better. I have changed my PS4 to DMZplus mode so that it shows nat type 1 / open. I changed the wireless channel from 2 to 9 to clear up any possible congestion there. One interesting thing I noticed on the settings menu of the ap, is you can check the nat type presumably of the phone, because my phone shows nat type 3 in that settings menu, but I show nat type 1 on the actual ps4 network settings and connection test.
Anyway this is super frustrating and completely disapointing. I feel so dumb. I changed wireless providers from AT&T to T-Mobile basically for this phone and the PS4 remote play integration, and myself and many others cant get it to work reliably like it does on PS Vita.
I am using AT&T Uverse for my home network, with a Pace 5031NV gateway from AT&T.
Anyone have any magic tricks to get PS4 Remote Play to work stable as advertized?
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Try channel 6 for wireless. It's better. Not sure about the rest though as I haven't tried remote play yet :good:
Cool, I will try that. What is different about wireless channel 6 though ?
I get pretty damn good remote play on my device/network here are my tips. (some people may argue that some of these are "irrelevant" but if your getting bad experiences, they are worth a shot?)
1. Plug your PS4 in to the router via Ethernet this improved my remote play buy a TON it went from barely playable to working perfectly. In all honesty the PS4 was shipped with such a crappy WiFi card , google "PS4 Wifi card" and the top results are all post about how they suck.
2. This one im not 100% sure about, however i know that my Download speeds on the connection test improve ALOT when I do this.
Dont connect using "easy connect" and for your DNS use a google dns like 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4. I went from download speeds of 5gigs down to 30+
However, Im pretty sure if your on the same network, the speed of your internet doesn't matter so if you have a good router you should be set to go. If you only have been trying it with your PS4 on wifi. Plug it in, I promise you will notice!
If your playing from outside the network, well you need a pretty decent upload speed on what your ps4 is hooked up to. You most likely will not have a good experience from a mobile network. I have FIOS at home and I play from my office which has a Wireless AC connection and FIOS and I can remote play like a dream but when I go to my friends house who has XFINITY and some ISP provided netgear router, the experience is less optimal, still playable to an extent but not nearly as smooth.
sorry for the wall of text! Hope this helps.

Having an open nat/port forwarding over hotspot?

Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible to have an open nat type or port forward over wifi hotspot/usb tethering? When I try playing Rainbow Six Siege (I'm on PC) it tells me I have a strict NAT Type (Type 1). I don't know if port forwarding and Nat type have anything to do with each other. Nat type determines how your device talks to others and port forwarding is for hosting games? any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Comet1966 said:
Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible to have an open nat type or port forward over wifi hotspot/usb tethering? When I try playing Rainbow Six Siege (I'm on PC) it tells me I have a strict NAT Type (Type 1). I don't know if port forwarding and Nat type have anything to do with each other. Nat type determines how your device talks to others and port forwarding is for hosting games? any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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You may want to try wifi tether router from the playstore, I purchased it awhile back and remember a lot of extra features within the app, might be exactly what your looking for.
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Jiv4n said:
You may want to try wifi tether router from the playstore, I purchased it awhile back and remember a lot of extra features within the app, might be exactly what your looking for.
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I have tried it with no luck. I followed someones tutorial on how to make it have an open NAT. It didn't work, thanks for the suggestion though.
It may be a pain carrying and extra device, but you could achieve this with a TL-WR802N nano router. Grab an external battery pack and you'll be good to go. It supports WISP.
I use one at home to switch between tether and wired connections easily. I used it mainly for my Karma Go, but after they reneged on how they were marketing I use it for the phone. My boss even emailed Karma asking if it was ok to hook up a router and their response was that they didn't have a way yet, but if he figures it out let them know.
I am also having the same issue trying to play rainbow six seige on PC with my s5 (rooted) over hot spot. Cannot seem to get an open NAT
I have tried a few rooted apps, including wifi tether router (this app even had a DMZ zone option, but no luck)
I have an app that allows port forwarding, but I do not understand the difference between source and destination ports.
I believe this could be achieved if I port forward the correct ports, but I'm currently stuck. Maybe someone here can help me with the port forwarding.
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It may be a pain carrying and extra device, but you could achieve this with a TL-WR802N nano router. Grab an external battery pack and you'll be good to go. It supports WISP.
I use one at home to switch between tether and wired connections easily. I used it mainly for my Karma Go, but after they reneged on how they were marketing I use it for the phone. My boss even emailed Karma asking if it was ok to hook up a router and their response was that they didn't have a way yet, but if he figures it out let them know.
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I just saw this. but I tried it out and yeah. Open nat type on every game now. Awesome
madsquabbles said:
It may be a pain carrying and extra device, but you could achieve this with a TL-WR802N nano router. Grab an external battery pack and you'll be good to go. It supports WISP.
I use one at home to switch between tether and wired connections easily. I used it mainly for my Karma Go, but after they reneged on how they were marketing I use it for the phone. My boss even emailed Karma asking if it was ok to hook up a router and their response was that they didn't have a way yet, but if he figures it out let them know.
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How does this work? Do you connect it to your Hotspot as a range extender and then connect your devices to the extender? I'm trying to get my NAT to change from Strict to Open.

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