Related
Made a boo boo and purchased the N9005 variant and I'm a straight talk user. I'm sure you can put two and two together and realize I'm only getting 3G service. Now I'm debating to keep the phone or purchase the N900A variant? Either be patient and wait for a tutorial release where At&t's LTE bands are readable or go purchase the N900A?!
PatienceWithin said:
Made a boo boo and purchased the N9005 variant and I'm a straight talk user. I'm sure you can put two and two together and realize I'm only getting 3G service. Now I'm debating to keep the phone or purchase the N900A variant? Either be patient and wait for a tutorial release where At&t's LTE bands are readable or go purchase the N900A?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't remember whether I said in your last thread or not about it, but I'll post again lol. Do you need/want 4G/LTE? - if you can live with 3G then keep it, Plus a few people testify that the Snapdragon model is the better one AND there's more in terms of development and ROMs.
radicalisto said:
Can't remember whether I said in your last thread or not about it, but I'll post again lol. Do you need/want 4G/LTE? - if you can live with 3G then keep it, Plus a few people testify that the Snapdragon model is the better one AND there's more in terms of development and ROMs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes actually I do need the 4G for the use I put into the N9005. Where I'm located. There is no data sent over 3G network. I went to send a text yesterday and I had to downsize it because of no data.
PatienceWithin said:
Yes actually I do need the 4G for the use I put into the N9005. Where I'm located. There is no data sent over 3G network. I went to send a text yesterday and I had to downsize it because of no data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In that case, you kinda answered your own question. Probably better to sell up and get that old N900(A) badboy :good:
You may get lucky and find someone who wants an N9005 and has an N900A, nothing is impossible these days.
radicalisto said:
In that case, you kinda answered your own question. Probably better to sell up and get that old N900(A) badboy :good:
You may get lucky and find someone who wants an N9005 and has an N900A, nothing is impossible these days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Selling it wouldn't be an issue. I'm just looking for an answer "If anyone is actually looking into tweeking the N9005 to read At&t's bands or not." Why I kind of posted this question if I should keep the phone or not. Hate to sell it, two weeks later. Someone found out how to add the two bands.
The bounty for changing the bands has been up a while, now the HW does support it, but there is a reason someone/people haven't changed them (yet) - plus there is a legal side to changing frequencies in countries etc
radicalisto said:
The bounty for changing the bands has been up a while, now the HW does support it, but there is a reason someone/people haven't changed them (yet) - plus there is a legal side to changing frequencies in countries etc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which is why I'm thinking with the whole legal spectrum of it. The tweek hasn't been released. :crying:
Could possibly just keep it for a rainy day and have both variants.
PatienceWithin said:
Which is why I'm thinking with the whole legal spectrum of it. The tweek hasn't been released. :crying:
Could possibly just keep it for a rainy day and have both variants.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Indeed you could, if you can afford to have both then do so, you can play around on the 9005 variant with ROMs etc or use as a media player or a backup phone.
radicalisto said:
Indeed you could, if you can afford to have both then do so, you can play around on the 9005 variant with ROMs etc or use as a media player or a backup phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Still have yet to break her in but noticed the N900 variant. Would that be classified as the unbranded version of the variants At&t and T-Mobile are running or?
PatienceWithin said:
Still have yet to break her in but noticed the N900 variant. Would that be classified as the unbranded version of the variants At&t and T-Mobile are running or?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes would be similar/same as unbranded
The difference is the A and V variants have a locked bootloader - whereas the 900/9005 don't iirc
radicalisto said:
Yes would be similar/same as unbranded
The difference is the A and V variants have a locked bootloader - whereas the 900/9005 don't iirc
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not to sound "stupid" but I am sounding stupid. Therefore that variant would read At&t 4G/LTE? Google isn't very friendly when trying to search this.
PatienceWithin said:
Not to sound "stupid" but I am sounding stupid. Therefore that variant would read At&t 4G/LTE? Google isn't very friendly when trying to search this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It should do yes, unless ATT have some stupid agreement with Samsung which I doubt.
Give ATT a ring, ask them if they support the N900 to be 100%
radicalisto said:
It should do yes, unless ATT have some stupid agreement with Samsung which I doubt.
Give ATT a ring, ask them if they support the N900 to be 100%
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To kill anyone's doubts. For future readers, it does support At&t 4G/LTE.
Thanks Rad for the help!
No problem
So it seems the CDMA s6 uses the qualcomm MDM9635 modem instead of the shannon 333. This is surely because of the fact CDMA patents are largely owned by qualcomm (something along the lines of that) . What I want to speculate on is the fact that both the sprint and U. S. Cellular version have more lte bands listed than the Verizon model. Most notably 12 and 17. These would be great to have especially if someone ever wanted to jump ship to T-Mobile or AT&T (I'm sure for that exact reason verizon probably asked for them to be disabled). I'm wondering if we ever received root, and that's a big if, we could theoretically unlock those bands also. All in all it would make this phone more globally and domestically appealing. What are you guys thoughts on this? Hopefully we can have some devs jump aboard once we achieve root to make this happen.
jgeorge15 said:
So it seems the CDMA s6 uses the qualcomm MDM9635 modem instead of the shannon 333. This is surely because of the fact CDMA patents are largely owned by qualcomm (something along the lines of that) . What I want to speculate on is the fact that both the sprint and U. S. Cellular version have more lte bands listed than the Verizon model. Most notably 12 and 17. These would be great to have especially if someone ever wanted to jump ship to T-Mobile or AT&T (I'm sure for that exact reason verizon probably asked for them to be disabled). I'm wondering if we ever received root, and that's a big if, we could theoretically unlock those bands also. All in all it would make this phone more globally and domestically appealing. What are you guys thoughts on this? Hopefully we can have some devs jump aboard once we achieve root to make this happen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just a guess but I don't think just having root would allow this as at bare minimum it sounds like you'd have to modify the RIL.
Just get a Canadian variant G920W8. No CDMA support, but full LTE interoperability with SHANNON333 modem supporting Band 12, 13, 17, 2, 4, 5, 29.
Hmmmm...try this maybe
jgeorge15 said:
So it seems the CDMA s6 uses the qualcomm MDM9635 modem instead of the shannon 333. This is surely because of the fact CDMA patents are largely owned by qualcomm (something along the lines of that) . What I want to speculate on is the fact that both the sprint and U. S. Cellular version have more lte bands listed than the Verizon model. Most notably 12 and 17. These would be great to have especially if someone ever wanted to jump ship to T-Mobile or AT&T (I'm sure for that exact reason verizon probably asked for them to be disabled). I'm wondering if we ever received root, and that's a big if, we could theoretically unlock those bands also. All in all it would make this phone more globally and domestically appealing. What are you guys thoughts on this? Hopefully we can have some devs jump aboard once we achieve root to make this happen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could try the Qualcom Unlocking Bands thread....http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
milan03 said:
Just get a Canadian variant G920W8. No CDMA support, but full LTE interoperability with SHANNON333 modem supporting Band 12, 13, 17, 2, 4, 5, 29.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If CDMA wasn't an issue I would have got the international SM-G925F because that has plenty of LTE Band support. But at least for the next few years verizon still has a CDMA network and where I'm at that's the only provider I get good service with.
sd_N said:
Could try the Qualcom Unlocking Bands thread....http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually did this with the one plus I had but I don't know if I want to try this with my s6. Don't have time to really fix things if anything goes wrong unfortunately or I would have
jgeorge15 said:
I actually did this with the one plus I had but I don't know if I want to try this with my s6. Don't have time to really fix things if anything goes wrong unfortunately or I would have
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried on my rooted G920V. Can not connect to QPST or DFS. Are you sure there is a MDM9635?
lostvangel said:
I tried on my rooted G920V. Can not connect to QPST or DFS. Are you sure there is a MDM9635?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well in all honesty the sprint galaxy s6 uses the mdm9635 as per a sprint rdf file on the phone. I was just making the assumption that the Verizon one would use the same one.
I'd love to hear if anyone else succeeds w/ this. I need more LTE bands than the crap list that Verizon supports on this damn modem
BobbySteel said:
I'd love to hear if anyone else succeeds w/ this. I need more LTE bands than the crap list that Verizon supports on this damn modem
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The hardware is definitely capable. It's just a matter of someone more experienced tampering around. It should be on a software side that the bands are being disabled. Unfortunately if there is code within the kernel itself that's blocking these bands we may never be able to utilize them.
BobbySteel said:
I'd love to hear if anyone else succeeds w/ this. I need more LTE bands than the crap list that Verizon supports on this damn modem
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon supports very few other LTE Bands for international users. Those in Asia do not have LTE coverage.
jgeorge15 said:
I actually did this with the one plus I had but I don't know if I want to try this with my s6. Don't have time to really fix things if anything goes wrong unfortunately or I would have
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you think this is possible on the verizon s6 galaxy? My phone has a custom rom but my kernel and bootloader are stock.
kmalh said:
Do you think this is possible on the verizon s6 galaxy? My phone has a custom rom but my kernel and bootloader are stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The thing is its stated you might need a custom kernel for these changes to stick. Seeing as our bootloader is locked most likely we will never get anything more than a custom rom. I don't really think any devs are looking into this. Modem work isn't really my cup of tea. Hope eventually someone comes up with something.
I have the AT&T version which is locked but I want to get an unlocked version of the GS6. Which one is the best to get? International? T-Mobile? I want the one that has the most support on the development side.
I think the G920F (s6Flat) or G925F (s6Edge) would be the best, because I've seen some kernels just for the international variant and no other. Plus, it's compatible with all if not, most roms. made for the S6. It' s (I think) the cheapest too. Although, I'm not too sure about network bands and compatibility with AT&T.
I have a g-925f, the edge unlocked. Works great on AT&T. Just keep in mind that you aren't going to get samsung pay on an international unlocked model. Learned that the hard way.
Jonny_Whitey said:
I have a g-925f, the edge unlocked. Works great on AT&T. Just keep in mind that you aren't going to get samsung pay on an international unlocked model. Learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't care about Samsung pay. I will get the regular 920F since it's got the most support.
Capt said:
I don't care about Samsung pay. I will get the regular 920F since it's got the most support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I'm right, most G920F roms, kernels, and recovery's should work the the G925F. So both have equal support.
Or should I get the nexus 6p?
I bought the S6 from B and H Photo online store. The phone is carrier and region unlocked which means it will work anywhere in the world. It came with no bloat except ANT radio which I disabled. It's a G920i from Australia and came with Australian wall charger but I called the store and they sent me a US travel charger for free. B and H is good for customer satisfaction.
I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
sjred_uk said:
I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
sofir786 said:
Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was afraid that would be the case.
Thanks for letting me know.
sofir786 said:
Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone does work ok here in the UK along with 4g. I don't expect to get. As good coverage though. Are you sure it wouldn't work?
sjred_uk said:
I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
flash exynos rom on snapdragon , great idea if you want a brick. No joke, it won't work for sure. and if you flash the Exynos firmware with odin , including bootloader , it would be an hard brick, won't turn on , no more recovery or download mode, just completely bricked. So just no. and wifi calling is nothing to do with the phone but with your carrier and or your current subscription. if your carrier doesn't support wifi calling you won't have that option, so other firmware or even force to show that option changes nothing as you would have the same carrier .
and of course a csc (firmware depend of the country) works only with the right SIM card , I mean samsung block the phone if you use an American SIM card on a European phone. European phone works only with European SIM card and European carrier
sjred_uk said:
The phone does work ok here in the UK along with 4g. I don't expect to get. As good coverage though. Are you sure it wouldn't work?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Trying to flash an EE UK firmware that's designed for exynos variant will fail, the 2 aren't compatible, so whatever you have with it you are u unfortunately stuck with
sofir786 said:
Trying to flash an EE UK firmware that's designed for exynos variant will fail, the 2 aren't compatible, so whatever you have with it you are u unfortunately stuck with
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK thanks very much for your help.
Regards
Simon
sjred_uk said:
OK thanks very much for your help.
Regards
Simon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Out of curiosity, what sim is in there atm?
sofir786 said:
Out of curiosity, what sim is in there atm?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's an unlocked phone no sim card with it. It says unlocked on the box. The model number is smg955u1
sjred_uk said:
It's an unlocked phone no sim card with it. It says unlocked on the box. The model number is smg955u1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry I just realised what you meant.
It's got my EE SIM in it.
sjred_uk said:
Sorry I just realised what you meant.
It's got my EE SIM in it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah okay cool, Have you checked if it's ever been rooted at all at any point?
sofir786 said:
Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude what?
http://m.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=United+Kingdom
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...-sm-g950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream#frequencies
Supports all 3 lte bands used by the UK, 800 1800 and 2600.
Supports all 3 GSM bands used by the UK.
Supports all 3 utsm bands used by the UK.
So in other words you were 100% incorrect
All of the high end phones have been quad band in the us for years.
I really hope this guy didn't just blindly listen to you and dump his phone for cheap.
---------- Post added at 04:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:51 AM ----------
sjred_uk said:
I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The other person could not be more incorrect your phone works fine in the UK, along with every other high end us phone for the last like 10 years
I hope you still have it and didn't dump it for cheap because someone decided to open their big mouth without actually checking that their gut reaction has any basis in reality.
I don't know if there is full CSC support for the UK carriers, but all u1 phones are direct from Samsung and sim unlocked at the factory so you will be able to pop any uk sim in there and be able to use data/sms/voice etc no problem. What provider do you use? I can check my /system/omc directory and see if it's preinstalled by the standard is CSC package.
It's also quite likely that if not you can install the local CSC package that comes with exynos phones on yours. Not only are the other posters 100% wrong about the SD/exynos phones habing incompatible operating systems*, but even if there was a shred of truth to it the CSC package is mostly config files and images and whatnot anyway, so there little execution going on
*It has nothing to do with exynos or snapdragon they are both arm64 lol. If anything it's because Samsung kneecapped them to make sure it wasn't possible for licensing/snapdragon bootloader security or some other stupid thing.
wildermjs8 said:
Dude what?
http://m.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=United+Kingdom
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...-sm-g950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream#frequencies
Supports all 3 lte bands used by the UK, 800 1800 and 2600.
Supports all 3 GSM bands used by the UK.
Supports all 3 utsm bands used by the UK.
So in other words you were 100% incorrect
All of the high end phones have been quad band in the us for years.
I really hope this guy didn't just blindly listen to you and dump his phone for cheap.
---------- Post added at 04:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:51 AM ----------
The other person could not be more incorrect your phone works fine in the UK, along with every other high end us phone for the last like 10 years
I hope you still have it and didn't dump it for cheap because someone decided to open their big mouth without actually checking that their gut reaction has any basis in reality.
I don't know if there is full CSC support for the UK carriers, but all u1 phones are direct from Samsung and sim unlocked at the factory so you will be able to pop any uk sim in there and be able to use data/sms/voice etc no problem. What provider do you use? I can check my /system/omc directory and see if it's preinstalled by the standard is CSC package.
It's also quite likely that if not you can install the local CSC package that comes with exynos phones on yours. Not only are the other posters 100% wrong about the SD/exynos phones habing incompatible operating systems*, but even if there was a shred of truth to it the CSC package is mostly config files and images and whatnot anyway, so there little execution going on
*It has nothing to do with exynos or snapdragon they are both arm64 lol. If anything it's because Samsung kneecapped them to make sure it wasn't possible for licensing/snapdragon bootloader security or some other stupid thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi
Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long and in depth reply.
I did reply to the guys post earlier stating that it the phone works absolutely fine on 4g LTE. I just thought he misunderstood me. Or vise versa. I've not dumped the phone because it works fine. Even if I can't get WiFi calling sorted I will still be keeping it. As long as I can still get updates ota I will be happy..
I bought a note 5 a few months ago not realising it was an AT and T model. That was a pain because it was stuck on lollipop and wouldn't accept any ota updates without an AT AND T sim card.
So I was just a bit wary of that happening again. But with this phone being unlocked I'm sure updates will be just the same as UK phones. (hopefully).
Just for the record my phone is running on E.E. carrier.
I've not checked if it's ever been rooted before.
How would I check?
Would a root checker app do this?
Thanks again
Simon.
sofir786 said:
Ah okay cool, Have you checked if it's ever been rooted at all at any point?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi
The phone is not rooted now but I'm not sure how to check if the phone has been rooted before in the past.
Thanks
sjred_uk said:
Hi
The phone is not rooted now but I'm not sure how to check if the phone has been rooted before in the past.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no way to tell if the phone has been system rooted which is all that you can do to the us s8
sjred_uk said:
I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought my Galaxy S8 from New York, after a while I realized that my phone is US unlocked version, now I live in UK and I don't get any updates for my phone at all since last year, I tried to flash it but it didn't work.
Has anyone considered using the Global or the Korean version of this phone on ATT network? I don't buy a phone if I can't have bootloader unlock and root access. Right now it looks like only Exynos versions of this phone will have this. Just wanted to know if anyone is using one on ATT and what their experience has been.
Kul_dood said:
Has anyone considered using the Global or the Korean version of this phone on ATT network? I don't buy a phone if I can't have bootloader unlock and root access. Right now it looks like only Exynos versions of this phone will have this. Just wanted to know if anyone is using one on ATT and what their experience has been.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a big discussion about this over on the S8+ forum. There are trade offs, but I think they have ironed out most of the big set backs.
ShrekOpher said:
There is a big discussion about this over on the S8+ forum. There are trade offs, but I think they have ironed out most of the big set backs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would you mind linking to that thread please?
I did a comparison of the bands and it seems the Korean version (SM-N950N) has all the same bands as the ATT version. I figure I just pop in my SIM card and go. Am I misssing anything?
Kul_dood said:
Would you mind linking to that thread please?
I did a comparison of the bands and it seems the Korean version (SM-N950N) has all the same bands as the ATT version. I figure I just pop in my SIM card and go. Am I misssing anything?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some of AT&T's network features will not work.
WiFi calling, VoLTE, etc.
There are some workarounds out there, but the results vary.
Kul_dood said:
Would you mind linking to that thread please?
I did a comparison of the bands and it seems the Korean version (SM-N950N) has all the same bands as the ATT version. I figure I just pop in my SIM card and go. Am I misssing anything?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think Band like 28 or 29 is missing. It's the carrier aggregation band. So you won't miss it unless you live in a big city.
I know there were other issues as well, I ended up getting the AT&T S8+ and now the AT&T Note 8. Too many weird things to deal with on the international versions.
I think it's missing G things like Samsung pay as well.
Also root is a bit tricky now too. You can use magisk to hide your root from "Safety Net" checking apps (Netflix, Samsung pay, Android pay, Pokémon Go etc.) but every time Google updates Safety Net or any of those apps update your access to them will be broken until magisk gets updated. Can take weeks sometimes.
Kul_dood said:
Would you mind linking to that thread please?
I did a comparison of the bands and it seems the Korean version (SM-N950N) has all the same bands as the ATT version. I figure I just pop in my SIM card and go. Am I misssing anything?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is a thread that is the Exynos on Tmobile related to the Note 8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/slow-lte-n950f-uk-clove-t-mobile-usa-t3688437