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Cellular strength and throughput

We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 2 XL's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.

Once device starts shipping and users can test, I'm curious to know if the cellular connectivity issue experienced on pixel xl has been solved on pixel 2 xl or not.

Plus one to this. My only real gripe with the current pixel XL. Hopefully the modem or antenna is stronger in the 2.

Any updates from people that have their device? Specifically looking to see if there is a signal strength improvement from the original xl?

After using this for a day I have some areas that I go through that were very weak with signal and I have Verizon. I just came from my LG G5 that would barely hold up going through these weak areas the pixel XL 2 is much better at holding a signal. I've noticed that where I have one bar with my LG G5 I have two bars with the pixel 2 XL. And in areas where I was losing signal and dropping my call with my G5 it holds onto my call and does not drop my call at all through these weak areas.
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Sounds promising. Hoping the Pixel 2 improves the Google Fi experience.

Looks to be about the same as my 6P and LG G6, getting around 35 down and 10 up at my office. Hardly a scientific answer but it's what I got

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Compared to my Nexus 6 which had pretty good RF performance my Pixel 2 XL is ~2-3 dBm lower on LTE, ~6 dBm lower on wifi.

Not bad

Typical for me in downtown Chicago

I'd say cell throughput on lte is pretty good!

Cell speed and Los Angeles is very good, using T-Mobile, but sometimes it will waste time on B12, which you can disable with a non-SE kernel. That will free up B12 off your 3x CA limit.
Averaging about 80-120Mbps around my neighborhood.
Edit: Tested over 140 yesterday.

Not good
This is my second one the Google tec talked me into it got it in the mail today. I gotta say the second one was worse Tha the first I'm in a poor signal area and I got limited text and phone but next to no internet. My Moto phones knock the socks off of it. Even my old Nexus 6. I'm on Verizon.

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This is my second one the Google tec talked me into it got it in the mail today. I gotta say the second one was worse Tha the first I'm in a poor signal area and I got limited text and phone but next to no internet. My Moto phones knock the socks off of it. Even my old Nexus 6. I'm on Verizon.
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i havent had any issues at all...i use all four carriers...

160mbps! T mo.
Getting 60mbps on my 6p was alot.... Then.

How is it at getting a good cellular signal? My OG Pixel is the worst and I don't want to be fooled again.

I received my Pixel 2 XL in the UK earlier this week and I am finding it is quite often losing it's HSDPA connection and falling back to Edge in areas where my trusty Nexus 5 was happily maintaining connection. They are both using the same SIM card on Virgin 3G (although I am waiting for them to switch me other to 4G in a couple of days) which runs off EE.
Anyone else experienced similar or know how to resolve.
Cheers
Baz

I get horrible signal -111 right under a Verizon tower.....yes I have Verizon lol

When you say right under do you mean right under or close, cause you can be to close.

HTC U ULTRA 64GB for 275€ in amazon... worth it?

I have just found it, looks like a bargain to me... I know it is not perferct, and definitely a no-no for the 700€ they asked when released, but for 275.... opinions?
Thanks.

I bought mine 3 weeks ago for 360 euro and am definitely happy with it. For 275 eur your can't go wrong in my opinion.

great phone ath this price

I am also considering this phone since in my country i can get it for 300 euros. Only concern I have is battery life and heating... Some reviewers reported heating while regular use and extensive heating while playing games. Russians posted a review where the temperature got up to 57C...

Well i am coming from snapdragon 808 based phone (lg v10) so this one is definitely much cooler. During normal benchmarks for a new phone (antutu 6, 3dmark) it scored well for snapdragon 821 based phone and remained cool. I personally do not play heavy games but for multimedia (including 4k stream from youtube) it does not get hot. Regarding battery life - comparing with my lg v10 which also have 3000 mah battery i get better battery life from the u ultra with the same apps. Standby drain is good and with light usage it can get up to 3 or maybe even 4 days. With my typical moderate to light usage (1 hour music listening, 30 minutes watching video, maybe around 2 hours browsing and viber chat per day) it easily handles 2 days usage so i am ok with that.

Thank you for your reply. What version do u have ( i mean color). Also, that battery life is too good to be true in my opinion since everyone bashed it battery. And the size ? is it a problem since i never used big phones.

I have the unlocked european version. Color is black. Size is similar to my old V10 and is not uncomfortable at least for me. It is good idea to get it in your hand before buying. Regarding the battery - i come from phone with bad battery life due to the combination of big screen and hot and power hungry cpu so u ultra is improvement for me. I personally rate battery life as average. If you come from phone with better battery life you can be disappointed but with quick charge enabled chargers, car adapters and even power banks these days it is not so much of a problem. My advice is to see the battery life rating in gsm arena review and compare it with the rating of your current phone to see if it will be better or worse.

Since my current phone is a Nexus 6, I don't think its size is going to be a problem.

That is the problem i cant see phone in person i can order it only online. Thank you for your replays.

I sold my s8 plus for it. I have the 128GB Saphire Edition any i love it. 6 to 7 sot mo lag great Camera and no heat at all..
For me it is absolut a go.

C.H.T.J. said:
I sold my s8 plus for it. I have the 128GB Saphire Edition any i love it. 6 to 7 sot mo lag great Camera and no heat at all..
For me it is absolut a go.
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Just ordererd it 64GB black, 265€ with a discount coupon. Can't wait it to arrive, I'll share my impressions.

Just received mine. Paid $272 for it. What a beautiful mobile it is, also smooth as butter. I'm in love with it
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Where did you get that $272 price?

tatkovladko said:
Where did you get that $272 price?
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Amazon, the prices vary sharply depending on the colour and storage capacity. Right now, 32GB black units cost 189€ (damn, it wasn't like that a month ago, I'd happily give up 32GB for a 90€ discount)
Whereas 64GB pinks cost 365€

I don't think there is a 32gb variant of u ultra, is it? As far as I remember only 64gb and 128gb for the sapphire glass edition.
So it might be the u play..?

Pocket_rocket said:
Amazon, the prices vary sharply depending on the colour and storage capacity. Right now, 32GB black units cost 189€ (damn, it wasn't like that a month ago, I'd happily give up 32GB for a 90€ discount)
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HTC U Juego means HTC U Play, sadly

ChavezD said:
I don't think there is a 32gb variant of u ultra, is it? As far as I remember only 64gb and 128gb for the sapphire glass edition.
So it might be the u play..?
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HTC U Juego means HTC U Play, sadly
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You guys are right. When you select 64GB, it is a U Ultra, but if you switch to 32, it is a U Play unit instead. I think this is a mistake (I have just reported it) that could lead to buy the wrong phone . Anyway, the prices vary from a colour to other. Currently, the cheapest is the white one, for 262€, when I purchased it a month ago, the black one was the cheapest.
https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B01N4PUNS7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

How is the battery guys and heating?
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How is the battery guys and heating?
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Battery life is pretty average. Not good, not bad. 6-7/10. But there is no heat or lag. Works fine

Definitely better than in MotoZ
Temps are ok unless quick charging, but that is generally normal. Sometimes small lags happen.
For this price is much better than any chinese phone, unless you can't handle this size.

5G is coming to the Midlands first. (UK)

It has just been announced that the 5G network will be coming to the West Midlands for first trials in the UK.
What is 5G ?
5G is about to be launched as the latest and fastest mobile phone network. It will be expected to be 1000x faster than 4G which is (depending on comparison of network quality type) roughly 50x quicker than 3G. (see link at bottom of post for indepth info)
Will 5G cook our brains and can I fry toast in front of the cellnet ?
There is a massive debate, conspiracy or not on this matter but the technical side of this, in laymans terms works something like this;
As frequencies get higher and bandwidth gets wider, more power is needed to send signals, which is where most of the scare story comes from. However, Also as frequencies get higher, aerials / antennae get smaller, thus it is much more possible to place lower powered antennae closer together. So to some degree, we don't need to take at least some of the risk said to be involved. Spooky eh ?
Look on social media for paranoia vs conspiracy on these matters.
What will 5G mean for the networks and customers ? RIP MP3 ?
The sooner 5G takes hold of the market, the more 4G and 3G will be freed up. As a result, data will inevitably get cheaper and cheaper and we will have a set of networks that can cope with unlimited connections for the masses. No doubt the "idiots" out there who want to download and host everything and blackmarket it will cause the network owners to look into how this is dealt with and let's hope they do a better job than last time.
However, 5G networks will be able to transfer full HD movies in less than 15-20 seconds. An mp3 should have downloaded completely, almost before it has been released and you have realised you want it.
There is a question about mp3s becoming irrelevant if battery life on devices can cope with lengthy screen usage making video the new mp3. Now you see those phones coming with 12,000maH and battery banks becoming a very serious commodity. Combine those batteries on our devices and 12 TB drives on home networks and you truly will be able to access your vast home catalogues anywhere in the world.
So what about 5G phones ?
Sadly, like 4G networks and 3G phones, 4G phones will not work on 5G networks.
Question, where is the phone industry on this ?
Just some thoughts and hopefully some knowledge from this tiny brain of mine. :good:
I do not work in the industry at all, but I do appreciate good quality tech, especially at budget prices.
5g.co.uk
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codQuore said:
It has just been announced that the 5G network will be coming to the West Midlands for first trials in the UK.
What is 5G ?
5G is about to be launched as the latest and fastest mobile phone network. It will be expected to be 1000x faster than 4G which is (depending on comparison of network quality type) roughly 50x quicker than 3G. (see link at bottom of post for indepth info)
Will 5G cook our brains and can I fry toast in front of the cellnet ?
There is a massive debate, conspiracy or not on this matter but the technical side of this, in laymans terms works something like this;
As frequencies get higher and bandwidth gets wider, more power is needed to send signals, which is where most of the scare story comes from. However, Also as frequencies get higher, aerials / antennae get smaller, thus it is much more possible to place lower powered antennae closer together. So to some degree, we don't need to take at least some of the risk said to be involved. Spooky eh ?
Look on social media for paranoia vs conspiracy on these matters.
What will 5G mean for the networks and customers ? RIP MP3 ?
The sooner 5G takes hold of the market, the more 4G and 3G will be freed up. As a result, data will inevitably get cheaper and cheaper and we will have a set of networks that can cope with unlimited connections for the masses. No doubt the "idiots" out there who want to download and host everything and blackmarket it will cause the network owners to look into how this is dealt with and let's hope they do a better job than last time.
However, 5G networks will be able to transfer full HD movies in less than 15-20 seconds. An mp3 should have downloaded completely, almost before it has been released and you have realised you want it.
There is a question about mp3s becoming irrelevant if battery life on devices can cope with lengthy screen usage making video the new mp3. Now you see those phones coming with 12,000maH and battery banks becoming a very serious commodity. Combine those batteries on our devices and 12 TB drives on home networks and you truly will be able to access your vast home catalogues anywhere in the world.
So what about 5G phones ?
Sadly, like 4G networks and 3G phones, 4G phones will not work on 5G networks.
Question, where is the phone industry on this ?
Just some thoughts and hopefully some knowledge from this tiny brain of mine. :good:
I do not work in the industry at all, but I do appreciate good quality tech, especially at budget prices.
5g.co.uk
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Cool! Rather, 5G technology has spread around the world.

5g will replace 4g in all other countries, including the UK shortly. 5G can provide wireless broadband, better broadcasting technology, higher automation and autonomy across everything from producing to automotive, and support for a more significant density of connected devices, support for new categories of connected devices and many more.

Great
Great news ! 5G generation!

5G Network
It is good news to have 5G in the midland..:good::good:

Unlocked or Carrier Specific. What is the difference

Seems right.. With the US models being bootloader locked, which prevents you from customizing your phone.. What is the advantage now of buying a complete unlocked phone over a carrier specific one? I mean if you buy a carrier one upfront no monthly payments, you could have them unlock the phones. I'm considering on purchasing a new phone next month. But not sure which to buy yet.. So I do not want to spent say $200 more for a unlocked device if there is not going to any real advantage over a carrier specific device.

Most phones cost the same unlocked or locked..but being unlocked you can go to any carrier you want with no contract or them keeping your phone hostage.

I have a AT&T Note 10+ and recently bought the unlocked version.
I thought there be a big difference. Not so at least with Samsung. Less the AT&T software my package disabler list was near identical for both.
Net difference just about zero.
The unlock version functions the same on the AT&T network. Simply slammed in the sim card and it was good to go. However I don't use wifi or video calling so no idea if that's the same.
If you go with a AT&T phone plan to buy once you reach the 1 or 2 years mark you could pay it off and save a couple hundred dollars which is what I did. Do whatever works best for you.
If you like the Notes a used N10+ is another option. They are still available new too. I'm not impressed with the Samsung flagships that followed the N10+ as they are inferior in a number of ways. Because of this I bought a new N10+ running on Android 10 and avoided being forced to use 11 or 12 which suck pretty bad, especially 12. So I have twins now.

passerbyeus said:
Most phones cost the same unlocked or locked..but being unlocked you can go to any carrier you want with no contract or them keeping your phone hostage.
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AT&T phones can be easily unlocked once paid off. Did it with this N10+ that's in my hand.

blackhawk said:
AT&T phones can be easily unlocked once paid off. Did it with this N10+ that's in my hand.
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That is why I'm considering just buying a phone locked phone. I do see sellers selling the unlocked version for far more than the carrier specific ones. Since I'm buying in cash I can have it unlocked right from the start.... I'm with t-mobile currently and have the A52 5G. This is the only phone in yrs I have financed... At the end of April, I'm paying it off, but still not sure which phone to purchase.. I have had various makers, but usually like the Samsung... Been looking at the Note 10+ and the S21 Ultra.. Not going to buy the newest unless it had a great deal.. But either way my phone and the wife's Iphone 13 pro max she wants, will be paid in full at the time of purchase...

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That is why I'm considering just buying a phone locked phone. I do see sellers selling the unlocked version for far more than the carrier specific ones. Since I'm buying in cash I can have it unlocked right from the start.... I'm with t-mobile currently and have the A52 5G. This is the only phone in yrs I have financed... At the end of April, I'm paying it off, but still not sure which phone to purchase.. I have had various makers, but usually like the Samsung... Been looking at the Note 10+ and the S21 Ultra.. Not going to buy the newest unless it had a great deal.. But either way my phone and the wife's Iphone 13 pro max she wants, will be paid in full at the time of purchase...
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My 4G unlimited data plan with AT&T is grandfathered and cheap. I would lose it going to 5G along with battery life for questionable speed gains.
My oldest N10+ is 2.5 yo and the only repair is a replacement battery, no big deal. It looks and runs like new in spite of very heavy usage. The display is still perfect, no dead pixels or degradation. It supports a V30 SD card up to 1tb which I'm upgrading to from a 512gb one. The beast is a work horse that gets 8-10 hours SOT once optimized*. It's display while 60hz has a better color rendering index than probably even the newest variable refresh rate displays and definitely better than the N20U. Great for pics and vids. A near perfect white point and gamma profile. Excellent color management that the variable refresh rate displays lack as they are extremely hard to calibrate.
It's form factor is better than all the newer Samsung flagships. Only 7mm thick and the camera assembly sits almost flush to the rear cover.
The cam and vid capabilities are very good, while laser AF be nice it's AF works well. The spen sits where it should if you're right handed, on the right not the left side. One downside is the longer latency of the N10+ spen then the newer models, but it has all the spen tricks including the bt remote shutter release. As far as processor and ram speed it's snappy and with 12gb of ram it doesn't run out of ram. Bonus if you get one running on Android 9 or 10, no cpu cycling sucking scoped storage to slow it down or get in your hair. The current OS load on this one will be 2 yo in June, still fast, stable with minimal maintenance. Part of my decision was the no learning curve and easy set up for a second one.
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It's just fun to use.
*my N10+'s are heavily optimized both with settings as well as with Package Disabler. A good case is mandatory, I'm using the Zizo Bolt. A great case that easy to hold, doesn't attract dirt and has sucked up close to a dozen 2-4 foot drops onto concrete with zero phone damage.
Stock N10+ customized using free Samsung icon packs, the Goodlock family of apps and free 3rd party apps like Digi Clock and Double Tap.
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Question The radios are not bad but not great

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The above him is from the Pixel 7 pro and the below is from the S22U at the same place at the same time
Same. The image above is the pixel 7 pro and the image below is the S22U at the same place at the same time

I've found that my S22Ultra sux arse radio wise.

I disagree- what phone have you gotten more than 1.3 GBS with rock solid signal strength?

Supposedly, the pixel 7 pro has a better radio. I just ran this test on my pixel 6 pro, and got these results. Hopefully my p7p is better. But my radio in p6p is decent. I can't complain anyway.

New all time high for download speed

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Wowza!

So far I haven't had any complaints about the radio other than before I installed the first OTA and it was dropping every so many minutes.

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Wowza!
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Yeah I must have been directly under the T-Mobile tower

I got this yesterday. Just switched to Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) with this phone. Previously on the Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon network) getting a little over 100 Mbps was a good day.
Reception on this phone with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) has been much better than my Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon). Unfortunately, since I switched to Mint Mobile right when I got this phone, I can't make a valid comparison to my Pixel 6 Pro.

I seem to have the opposite experience. I came from a galaxy s21 ultra and had 5g coverage on multiple different bands and wavelengths in my area. Routinely can get 200 to 400 megabits per second. Now I'm down to 70 to 80 everywhere, my phone is constantly switching from LTE to 5G, and I'm having a lot of signal dropping where i never did before

joshtb86 said:
I seem to have the opposite experience. I came from a galaxy s21 ultra and had 5g coverage on multiple different bands and wavelengths in my area. Routinely can get 200 to 400 megabits per second. Now I'm down to 70 to 80 everywhere, my phone is constantly switching from LTE to 5G, and I'm having a lot of signal dropping where i never did before
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And you took the day one OTA? Mine was being weird until I did that.

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And you took the day one OTA? Mine was being weird until I did that.
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Yup did the ota basically immediately so can't tell you what it was like before that

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Yup did the ota basically immediately so can't tell you what it was like before that
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Well that's unfortunate. Hopefully they release some modem fixes in November.

Lughnasadh said:
I got this yesterday. Just switched to Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) with this phone. Previously on the Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon network) getting a little over 100 Mbps was a good day.
Reception on this phone with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) has been much better than my Pixel 6 Pro with Tracfone (Verizon). Unfortunately, since I switched to Mint Mobile right when I got this phone, I can't make a valid comparison to my Pixel 6 Pro.
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Nice. I changed to Fi from StraightTalk (which doesn't work on my 7P) and get 20 down and 1 up at work and 11 down and 2 up at work. I'm in the middle of Verizon territory in ND. Good thing I have wifi calling at both places.

I currently have the 6P and have bad reception. I would like to ditch this device and go to the 7P, but I am conflicted. I see several post about not so great reception and others have no issue at all. I get dropped calls and the (!) in the signal bar. Notifications come several minutes or longer to receive. I wonder if this is based on location. I am in an area where LTE and 5G are decent on any other device but the one I have. I would hate to make the move to the 7P and have the same problems.

My results are a mixed bag. On one hand, the reception on my P7P is better b/c I'm in fewer situations where I see (!) in my signal bar compared to my P6P. On the other hand, I'm consistently only getting LTE connection (I'm on Verizon) where I would get 5G speeds with my iPhone 13 Pro. That being said, when I'm on LTE, it seems to be fast enough but I don't know if this is good enough for me to keep this device.

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I currently have the 6P and have bad reception. I would like to ditch this device and go to the 7P, but I am conflicted. I see several post about not so great reception and others have no issue at all. I get dropped calls and the (!) in the signal bar. Notifications come several minutes or longer to receive. I wonder if this is based on location. I am in an area where LTE and 5G are decent on any other device but the one I have. I would hate to make the move to the 7P and have the same problems.
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Do as I am doing, get the phone. You have 15 days to send it back. Pretty sure mine is going back. It is better, but it is not acceptable.

TonikJDK said:
Do as I am doing, get the phone. You have 15 days to send it back. Pretty sure mine is going back. It is better, but it is not acceptable.
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If it's not acceptable, then I'm not going to bother. I love the pixel experience, but not the poor connection quality. I may just scoop up a Motorola for the time being

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Well that's unfortunate. Hopefully they release some modem fixes in November.
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Not trying to be negative, but those of us with the same issues on the 6 Pro said that when it came out. We are still waiting.
Think about it, be careful and keep an eye on your return window. I wish I had with my 6 Pro.

TonikJDK said:
Not trying to be negative, but those of us with the same issues on the 6 Pro said that when it came out. We are still waiting.
Think about it, be careful and keep an eye on your return window. I wish I had with my 6 Pro.
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It's a different modem this time around, the 5300g. So far I've had zero issues with it after I took the first OTA. Also, no chance I'll return it because there's no acceptable alternative for me.