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Your actual "4G" data speeds

Ok.... So I got the Mytouch 4G, One of the main reasons for this (small reason) was because when I am at work, all I get is EDGE. Now... I still only get EDGE, And my top speeds at home on my 6th floor balcony are 2.2Mb/.8Mb, which are the same as my Fender mytouch 1.2. I am in West palm beach florida which is a 4g market.
Anyone else care to share their speeds? maybe someone around me lol. I just want to see if maybe there is something wrong, or if there really is no difference.

I'm in Indy here and I normally get around 2.5 - 3.5 mbps downstream. I am in an hspa+ area. Non HSPA+ devices will be just as fast as HSPA+ devices while in an hspa+ area except for the fact that non-HSPA has a ceiling of 7.2mbps.

My personal best is 6.1 Mbps but normally 3-4 Mbps on hspa+

Same as these guys 2-3megs. Saw 6.5 right next to a cell tower, but normally I never see that speed.
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I think there are a few posts about this. It looks like people are experiencing the same thing I experienced before the Orlando area was proper. Even before my myTouch 4G (prev. CliqXT, eww) I was getting 5 mbps and above. Getting about 8-10 mbps here consistently...
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I couldn't be happier with the speeds here in Orlando. Be patient, it wasn't always blazing fast around here.

I see an average of 3mb/s down, 1 up in the notoriously congested San Francisco area. My personal best is 5.11 down, 2.1 up. I only drop down to EDGE in a few of the tunnels under SF/Oakland, otherwise it's 3/4G all the time. Pretty happy. Verizon was good, T-Mob seems comparable so far w/ a bit more speed when on 4G (for about $30/month less on my bill). And don't get me started how many million times better this is than my horrible year with AT&T! Ahhh! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

I've seen 10 several time here on san antonio. Average 6-7
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Scottsdale AZ - average of 2-3 with best of 6.3 .6
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If there was poor coverage in your area in the first place with 3G/Edge, getting a 4G phone isn't going to make you have better coverage. It simply boosts the speed in the area, not the coverage area itself.. You need to have good coverage to take advantage of good speeds. The remedy to your problem would be if they added a tower closer to your home I think.

my best is 4 - 5 in walnut creek but usually its around 2 - 3.

My personal best is 6+ on speedtest.net, but I average about 2-3.

itmustbejj said:
I'm in Indy here and I normally get around 2.5 - 3.5 mbps downstream. I am in an hspa+ area. Non HSPA+ devices will be just as fast as HSPA+ devices while in an hspa+ area except for the fact that non-HSPA has a ceiling of 7.2mbps.
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This is incorrect. You see, even though the phone is "capable" of 7.2, it will NEVER reach that. That is a theoretical speed. You would have to be in absolute perfect conditions to reach those speeds. I don't even want to get into that, but lets just say that simply repositioning yourself around the tower alone can affect your data rates. The HSPA+ phones are more capable of higher speeds so they will overall have better speeds.
If your using a Nexus One (a non plus phone) then you will typically top out at 5Mbps, in fact, I know you willl NEVER get better than that. If your on the MT4G, you will typically top out at 10Mbps.
Lets not forget site load either. Now that we have HSPA+ networks, T-Mobile is selling more and more of their 3G and 4G phones and the networks are getting more loaded down therefore your data rates will not peak at 10Mbps during peak hours. Try your data tests during non peak hours (between 12am-5am) and check your results. My tower is at a Middle School. During the day I average 2.5-4Mbps but right now i hit 6.0-6.9Mbps because all the kiddies are home and most people are not on their phone at 11pm.

Wow.... Thanks for the replies guys. Ive heard the orlando speeds are awesome. Im still topping it out 2.8mbps at a server about 20min from me. We just got 4g in this area not to long ago, so updating of the cell towers I do think is in serious need.
Im also thinking the reason for only getting EDGE in my work, is because its a pretty old building, im sure its still lined with lead paint and asbestos lol... Blocking the signal, When I go out side away from it, it goes back up to H. Should probably speed test it when I get to work tomorrow before I go inside.

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This is incorrect. You see, even though the phone is "capable" of 7.2, it will NEVER reach that. That is a theoretical speed. You would have to be in absolute perfect conditions to reach those speeds. I don't even want to get into that, but lets just say that simply repositioning yourself around the tower alone can affect your data rates. The HSPA+ phones are more capable of higher speeds so they will overall have better speeds.
If your using a Nexus One (a non plus phone) then you will typically top out at 5Mbps, in fact, I know you willl NEVER get better than that. If your on the MT4G, you will typically top out at 10Mbps.
Lets not forget site load either. Now that we have HSPA+ networks, T-Mobile is selling more and more of their 3G and 4G phones and the networks are getting more loaded down therefore your data rates will not peak at 10Mbps during peak hours. Try your data tests during non peak hours (between 12am-5am) and check your results. My tower is at a Middle School. During the day I average 2.5-4Mbps but right now i hit 6.0-6.9Mbps because all the kiddies are home and most people are not on their phone at 11pm.
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That is a really good point. In west palm beach, theres... well millions of people unfortunately lol. And tmobile is huge here with stores about every 10- 20 miles from each other. So clogged pipes makes a lot of sense. I will try it a few times through the day. But its 1am here and still getting same speed so lol

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That is a really good point. In west palm beach, theres... well millions of people unfortunately lol. And tmobile is huge here with stores about every 10- 20 miles from each other. So clogged pipes makes a lot of sense. I will try it a few times through the day. But its 1am here and still getting same speed so lol
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Strange that at 1am your still not getting better speeds. Maybe your servicing site hasn't been optimized yet. Or its possible your in a pocket that doesn't work as well (which sucks) but remember I was saying that speeds will be effected at different positions around the tower.
When your talking about download speeds equal to or in excess of cable and dsl EVERYTHING in EVERY way affects the data rates.
I hope the speeds get better for you, but honestly, I don't know what to do with my 7Mbps I have now!

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Anyone else care to share their speeds?
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Varies, in the Birmingham area 10 Mbps was the highest down speed I've seen (1 Mbps up seems to be a cap, not sure why), 8 more typical when I got really high speed. At home I had been getting about 0.3 Mbps down, but I just checked it...wait, Y5 turned my wireless back on (I'm dumping it, it is a PITA and a bit buggy), so the 16.2 is from the cable modem (nice). Turning wireless off: 0.85 down, 0.54. Shucks.
I used speedtest.net's flash tester.

Broke my personal best (6.1Mbps) yesterday with a 6.5Mbps and 7.9Mbps on back to back runs.

Varies here in Fort Lauderdale FL. Best was 5 down. But usually 2 to 3 down. Sucks but I came from a unlocked iPhone with only edge speeds on it so I can't complain especially since I'm sure its only due to my area.
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I'm in Kansas City and cruise all over town,i have never seen above 1.3mb down. 85% of the time it is .6 down. WTF is up with that, as usual they act dumb when trying to get help and no call back two weeks after service ticket. We all need to sign up for the class action suit, my t-mobile bill equals a car payment. Shouldn't I be able to use the service? LoL
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Tethered over mobile hotspot.

drove 20min to try 4G (N. San Diego County)

im in Carlsbad, CA and drove out to San Marcos, CA really to go to FRY's. apparently they have 4G out there so got to play around with it a bit. web pages loaded faster, skype worked better... although, I thought it would be faster. here's a speedtest result compared to the 3G i'll probably be stuck with forever:
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Speedtest is not always correct and only testing them is not exactly damning evidence that LTE is slow in your area.

I live in downtown san diego and at night i can reach speeds of 30down 10up.
San Marcos and pretty much anywhere above the 52 will not get good speeds because you are not in the Real network converge area. You guys are still considered the extended coverage area. Soon San Diego will be fully covered though, just wait.
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I can tell you for a fact that SpeedTest and SpeakEasy are about as wrong as wrong can be. The results can be off by as much as 400% or more. This can be evidenced in practical use. I routinely get ridiculously slow speed test results that simply cannot be accurate because my download throughput could never be supported by a speed so slow. You're simply not going to get downloads of 300 megabytes inside of 2 minutes 30 seconds on a 10Mbit connection and I do that regularly. Actual speeds are more like 30 to 40 Mbit if you're getting 10 to 15 Mbit on a speed test.

I usually run speedtest a half dozen times and ignore the outliers to get a good impression of how it's working.

Understand that in a bandwidth test there are two seperate variables.
1: your connection to ISP
2: the server you are pulling/uploading to/from
Your ISP may be providing YOU with a total of 40/10mbps bandwidth, but if the server you are testing from is hosed and can only give you 5mbps upload, then your download bandwidth looks horrible. If you connect to a boss server that looks at your measly 40mbps and laughs, then you'll cap out your provided bandwidth and get a real result. It all comes down to the server side really for accuracy.
Unforunately alot of the Speedtest app's servers are loaded, quite often. A better test at least for me here in NJ, is http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ and connect to the NY, NY server. It usually gives me capped out bandwidth and an accurate assessment of my current true connection capabilities. It also works great on the phone through flash and on my Tbolt on 4G I was getting 36/5mbps on average.

Wait, the OP did total of two speed tests. Is this how you test the network performance? WTF really?

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If you get next to Cal State SM it gets pretty distinguishable as much faster than around Fry's, etc... also it seems to be much faster when on the 78. Kicks in at Rancho Santa Fe and runs thru Esco. One of the biggest problems with the LTE is when you are in a fringe spot, like the internal toggle in between 3G and 4G the TBolt is always trying to figure it out if it is not a solid 4G area... To be honest tho, I've spent the day in downtown and Mission Valley to play with it. Half the time 4G isn't working, quarter of the time my phone will freak out and go straight 1X leading to me restarting my phone every 5 mins , but that other quarter of the time it is good and the hotspot is rad. So basically, I'm sayin expect your phone to NOT perform like it is supposed to until they release Gingerbread (or you can root and try to find something that works better) I'm stock froyo, figured it gives me the best chance at having that whole "The phone after my dreamphone"..... *facepalm followed by extreme anger*
p.s.- I've done the speedtest a million times around SD and I'm averaging about what you posted so those numbers are probably right--> please Ignore The Trolls!

People need to realize that data speeds will not always be a certain speed in a certain location. Many factors play a part in what data speeds you get. Just because that's what you got in that area does NOT mean it can't be more or less. Now, I can say I have tried numerous speed tests in San Diego and LTE gets amazing data speeds. During the DAY I have seen 36Mbps download speeds. Like all networks it can vary. I have seen data speeds in different areas and different times from 11Mbps-36Mbps download. Verizon's 3G in these same locations in always under 2Mbps. LTE is way faster, way better. After getting data speeds faster than most people get with home WiFi I don't want to go back to those slower speeds.
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Thats over ten times faster, and you weren't impressed? Wow.

I've ran over 600 speedtests tethered to my PC and a few thousand tests on speedtest.net app on the phone in totally different areas of the New York City.
You will never be able to get the perfect picture of what the network performance is let alone by doing a handful of tests. Please be patient when testing and judging the network performance in certain markets.
Here is NYC today tethered:
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I live in san Marcos California and I've gotten up to 23mbps down and 10mbps up
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i was in 4g while driving thru scranton pa and i found that the more i tested on speed test the faster it got....i started at 6 and ended at 28 on the 5th test in a row....just my .02

WiFi strength, range, and throughput

Rate this thread to express how you think the Huawei Nexus 6P's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
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WiFi strength is good...nothing spectacular.

Good wifi.

Works pretty good. Pick it up outside in my car from my parking spot. Not strong but still connected.

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Works pretty good. Pick it up outside in my car from my parking spot. Not strong but still connected.
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Wifi is great here....... @svetius how are you doing Sir.........long time

I don't know if it's my router (I just bought it 2 days before my phone came in) but my download speed is not very good. I have a 50mbps down and 25mbps up, but when I run speedtest I get anywhere from 1-30 down and always 25-30 up (normal). My upload is always fantastic, but down varies greatly. I don't know if it's the router or if it's my phone. In all situations I am less than 10 feet from my router.
Can anyone run speed test on 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands and inform me if they see odd download speeds? By odd I mean jumping up and down a lot.

svetius said:
WiFi strength is good...nothing spectacular.
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Couldn't agree less, the wifi reception on this phone is worlds better than my 2014 Moto X, I'm getting 2-3x the bandwidth at the furthest distances in our house.

Substantially better range and throughput than my N6.

Find my wifi is good. No better or worse than all my other devices. Picks up where i expect it to and loose it where i expect it to. Again speed is on par with my other devices

Wifi on 6p is much better - get full 118Mbps download (cable limit) with Nexus 5 typically doing 80Mbps download at same time frame. Connected to router at 585Mbps but I have seen it a 7xxMbps rate to router but effective internet still cable limited.

rapatelrocky said:
Wifi on 6p is much better - get full 118Mbps download (cable limit) with Nexus 5 typically doing 80Mbps download at same time frame. Connected to router at 585Mbps but I have seen it a 7xxMbps rate to router but effective internet still cable limited.
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I also am getting faster WiFi performance by a good amount WHEN I do .. reason saying that is that the results are very variable. I would like to attach a screen print I saved but do not see how.

Great throughout with alright range, wifi drops at less range than my Note 3 and S4. This based off two N6P, first device I returned as the auto rotation was broke.
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My WiFi has been significantly better than my s4 so far with better throughput, latency, stability. My home connection is consistently above 500 Mbps.

First image 5ghz, Comcast 105-150mbps depending on time of day. Second image is 2.4ghz

WiFi is infinitely better than my previous phones, and 5ghz AC works better than on the iPhone 6s plus in the same spots. Signal strength on 5ghz AC is always 5-10db weaker than 2.4ghz. Plus, I get my full 90mbps everywhere in my house with 5ghz. 2.4 caps around 50-70 because of no free channels. Huawei did something right with the antennae, because I have no issues ever with signal/speed.

I'm getting lower pings and faster throughput on my 6P than my iMac 5K!
Of course, the position of my iMac may make a difference - but, regardless, that's bloody impressive. Huawei has always been pretty good with antenna design, and the larger size of the 6P presumably also helps?
In a test just now I got 9ms, 7.6 Mbps down, 1.1 Mbps up on my 6P (connection 526Mbps) and on my iMac 19ms, 6.8, 0.8 (connection 527Mbps*).
(* bit odd that one is 526 and the other 527 - maybe a rounding issue as I assume they're fixed increments?)

I'll second that WiFi speeds are noticeably faster than they were on my N6.
I haven't done any actual testing, but the primary thing I've noticed is that transfers to my local server are typically 20-30% faster.

enviii said:
I don't know if it's my router (I just bought it 2 days before my phone came in) but my download speed is not very good. I have a 50mbps down and 25mbps up, but when I run speedtest I get anywhere from 1-30 down and always 25-30 up (normal). My upload is always fantastic, but down varies greatly. I don't know if it's the router or if it's my phone. In all situations I am less than 10 feet from my router.
Can anyone run speed test on 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands and inform me if they see odd download speeds? By odd I mean jumping up and down a lot.
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On 5Ghz I got 72.2Mb down and 19.6Mb up on a 72/20 connection, so its running it flat out. This was through the speedtest.net app.

The signal on my 6p is significantly better than my Oneplus one. I tested both where wifi signal is lowest and tested both 2.4 and 5ghz bands. Pings are almost identical.
6p
5 ghz - 64.81 down / 12.19 up
2.4 ghz - 57.91 down /12.25 up
1+1
5 ghz - 30.70 down / 12.22 up
2.4 ghz - 17.30 / 12.16 up

Constantly drops Wifi. Then often forgets networks and even can't see any while scanning.

WiFi strength, range, and throughput

Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 2 XL's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
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WiFi strength isn't as good on this phone as it is with the original XL. I have both and notice a big difference. Not sure what's going on. I get better performance with WiFi off. Wth

Just got the 2XL and it has way more problems staying connected to my 5GHz network in places that my original XL had no issues.

WiFi is worse than the original Pixel. Mine keeps saying signal lost and has to reconnect.
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chrisn91 said:
WiFi is worse than the original Pixel. Mine keeps saying signal lost and has to reconnect.
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Me too. Worse than my 6p. Pretty disconcerting actually
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Haven't noticed any issues with signal strength. I do have my FiOS router on one end of the house and a 5GHz repeater on the other end. Haven't done speed tests but it was noticably faster restoring apps compared to my Nexus 5X.
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My cell signal seems similar to other phones but wifi is a bit faster than my s7 edge. Even though the measured speed seems similar to other phones I will say everything seems much much faster. I was installing apps literally almost as fast as I could push the buttons. Setting up this phone and installing all of my apps was significantly faster than any other phone I've used.

5GHz 80MHz has been great so far, 300Mbps easy.

Has anybody done any digging on this issue? Any thoughts on whether it's a hardware or software issue? I have a 2XL running 8.1 beta, I get constant slow browsing performance on WiFi, apps saying they're having connectivity issues, etc. Running multiple speed tests on my home connection I get an average of 11 down / 1.5 up. My girlfriend has a Pixel 2 (non-XL) running 8.0. She gets 85 down / 10 up on the same network and no performance issues.

I feel same
I have 40 mbps download plan where my N5 N6p iphone 8 plus and 6 plus on speedtest app pulls 38to 40 mbps my pixel-2-xl pulls max of 15 mbps
This is so weird
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whysyn said:
Has anybody done any digging on this issue? Any thoughts on whether it's a hardware or software issue? I have a 2XL running 8.1 beta, I get constant slow browsing performance on WiFi, apps saying they're having connectivity issues, etc. Running multiple speed tests on my home connection I get an average of 11 down / 1.5 up. My girlfriend has a Pixel 2 (non-XL) running 8.0. She gets 85 down / 10 up on the same network and no performance issues.
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Prattham said:
I feel same
I have 40 mbps download plan where my N5 N6p iphone 8 plus and 6 plus on speedtest app pulls 38to 40 mbps my pixel-2-xl pulls max of 15 mbps
This is so weird
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What routers do you guys have? I have a Frontier FiOS Arris one and a TP-link repeater working well with my phone. 50/50 and getting nearly that from both. Directly next to the Arris definitely gets it.

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What routers do you guys have? I have a Frontier FiOS Arris one and a TP-link repeater working well with my phone. 50/50 and getting nearly that from both. Directly next to the Arris definitely gets it.
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I have a d link running on 2.4ghz
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I have a Nighthawk R7000P. The funny thing like I mentioned is my girlfriend on a non-XL Pixel 2 get's 8x better throughput than I do, sitting right next to me. She doesn't have an app connectivity or lag problems either.

I have an Asus ac3200 with Xfinity 300/25 and I have no issues at all.
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I have an Asus ac3200 with Xfinity 300/25 and I have no issues at all.
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Man your upload is capped so low compared to your download.

whysyn said:
I have a Nighthawk R7000P. The funny thing like I mentioned is my girlfriend on a non-XL Pixel 2 get's 8x better throughput than I do, sitting right next to me. She doesn't have an app connectivity or lag problems either.
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Your nighthawk might be limiting your bandwidth.

I have 40 mbps plan for download but when I test on pixel 2 xl using speedtest app it says max is 15 or 16 mbps but when i try to download something from play store then it is drawing about 3.5 mbps which is what my other devices get
Why so?
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Prattham said:
I have 40 mbps plan for download but when I test on pixel 2 xl using speedtest app it says max is 15 or 16 mbps but when i try to download something from play store then it is drawing about 3.5 mbps which is what my other devices get
Why so?
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I have bunch of questions to get more details on your situation. First, how are you estimating your Play Store download speed? You're not mixing up mbps with Mbps right? Also, how far is your router from where you're testing your phone? Are there lots of walls or another floor in the way? Do you have a 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz router?
I have a 50/50 FiOS service and get it fine about 100 feet away from the router because I use 5 GHz, have a range extender, and it helps that my house is 1 floor.

Forgot to attach a speed test screenshot.

EeZeEpEe said:
I have bunch of questions to get more details on your situation. First, how are you estimating your Play Store download speed? You're not mixing up mbps with Mbps right? Also, how far is your router from where you're testing your phone? Are there lots of walls or another floor in the way? Do you have a 2.4 GHz or 5 GHz router?
I have a 50/50 FiOS service and get it fine about 100 feet away from the router because I use 5 GHz, have a range extender, and it helps that my house is 1 floor.
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I have a 2.4ghz one and i am sitting on top of it and testing my every other device draws about 38 mbps
And yes I'm not confusing them lol
In playstore I see the download progress and see how much it is downloading and can assume about 3mbps+
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Question Heating issues fixed after Jan update?

For the 7 pro? I have the US unlocked varient and it doesn't seem as warm as it once did. Jan update may have fixed it.

What build number is the Jan update?

My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.

31 C... after jan update - mb normal

dutch_in_seattle said:
My AT&T Pixel 7 Pro (not sure if it's unlocked) was updated yesterday (Jan 3). It currently has build number TQ1A.230105.002, with Android security update January 5, 2023.
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Thanks, was asking because I didn't get it, but then I realized I'm on the beta channel

My 7 Pro has never had a heating issue.
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What program is that?

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What program is that?
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Battery Guru.

Cheers had forgotten about this one

The heating issues for my device were fixed after the December feature drop

Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot

kenbrownstone said:
Wish they would fix battery..Only get 4 1/2 hours sot
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It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.

ekin_strops said:
It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
And if you wanted values, some battery meters showed as much as 1400 mAh peak drain while watching a youtube video at work on 4g (i have 5g blocked by google), just scrolling through Instagram gave me 890-1100mAh drain while heating my phone, where this value drops to 400-500mAh drain doing the same on Wifi. Idle messenger is like 320 mAh drain over Wifi, at least 900 over LTE. This seems good to you?

Ponury666 said:
That's not entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain, no 4G for call, even blocked 5G by google, blocked baseband frequencies based on location. Even people from supported "offcial" locations reported lack of 4g/5g while traveling to another country. Maybe the battery itself isn't a problem, but basic optimization and menagement is. My patterns did not change, nor did the apps while switching from a 5000mAh medium range phone to google flagship. Hell, I even gamed more on my previous Poco. Now I can't nt get 10h standby and messenger mixed use while at work, cause the battery drains to 5%. Nothing like that happens over Wifi or 3g (can still use messenger on 3g), the usage time goes up like 3 times. Measured. So don't tell us there isn't a problem.
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Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.

ekin_strops said:
Oh my...
You're one of those that think switching from a mid-range phone to a "high-end" one will suddenly provide them a better battery life.
You do realize that mid-range phones have "much" weaker SOC that consumes less power overall?
Very often the same case is with the display too, lower resolution display, and lower display brightness than flagship screens (very often even lower refresh rate display), and there is a bunch of other things that make a mid-range phone superior when it comes to longer battery life.
The fact that you even expected a better battery life by switching to a device that has a SOC that EATS power unlike a SOC in a mid-range explains everything.
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And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.

ekin_strops said:
It's just YOUR usage pattern and the apps you use. I'm getting double that, and many people much more than you.
Nothing is really broken with the "battery", it's just your own usage pattern.
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Bro I barely use the phone ...No Twitter no social media , a little utube and music ..I have one game ...No emails ...10 minutes of calling and 10 text a day

Ponury666 said:
And you would be exactly correct, weren't the fact that the battery drain and heating stops, once the phone switches to wifi performing the same tasks. I gave you the numbers, but you seem to not read them with understanding. Are you telling me that LTE overheating the phone and max 10 hours of mixed use on a charge doing messenger and instagram is equivalent to 20 hours of the same on Wifi? If that's the case, we don't actually need flagship phones, we can just go with a Snapdragon 732G or 870 mid/mid-high range chinase phones that can withstand everything during normal daily use.
Dude my Pixel drains 12-14% battery an hour while steaming music over LTE with screen off, while draining 3-4% an hour streaming Tidal on 3g.
Writing this post on LTE made my phone hot.
This isn't normal, wether you like it or not.
Edit: also, the Tensor G2 isn't exactly that hi-end of a chip, benchmarking it put like where? Snap 870? Oh and based on Samsung's OVERHEATING Exynos line. Which Google didn't quite mention untill recently. And don't come here with that "ooo, you're one of those people who..." attitude. I know my tech. I know when tech is good or tech is bad, flagship or not. And yes, I do expect better overall performance in any given case, including at least similar or close to battery life as on a higher mid -range, you know why? Cause people payed close to a 1000 bucks to get a top tier phone. And Google came lacking.
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Yes, the whole issue IS THE TENSOR G2. While it barely offers the CPU performance of the 865-70 (GPU is somewhat "decent"), it eats twice as much power. It's EXTREMELY inefficient and performs well below many other "flagship" SOCs while it consumes more power than those.
How much you pay for the phone doesn't automatically grant you a PREMIUM battery life. It may grant you a "premium" performance...
If you know the TECH that well, you would understand why buying a flagship device will never give you the "best" battery life, no matter how much you pay for the device. The reasons behind it is already mentioned in my previous reply. FACT.

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entirely true. "Not supported" countries get LTE/4G battery drain
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Sorry but this seems with no proof at all
I get the VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G things, which are indeed limited by Google
Not the "sabotage", even because on an unsupported MVNO the battery consumption was mostly the same as the host network

My P7P has run much, much cooler than my P6P ever did, it's never run hot.

It will only get hot for few minutes after the update. Your phone is indexing your file and optimising system app due to update. Those two process use a lot of CPU.
After it's done the phone should run normally. No Heat issue on mine. Unless i open the stupid youtube music which somehow use way too much cpu power