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The Mi3, Z1, G2, S4, Note 3, all pack the same S800 SoC of the N5 and all of them surpass it on benchmarks. The rest of the specs are mostly the same as well, like same screen resolution and RAM, the only exception being the Note with has 3GB but that one takes the cake and even wins against its own octacore version.
IMO it makes no sense, being made by google the N5 should be the best optimized of all 6 phone, and instead seems to be the least, any reasons?
Hi,
Mainly because a lack of Qualcomm libs optimizations: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537299, flash this and you will have the same scores. Why they are not in the N5: explanation in the FAQ.
Plus maybe a different thermal management compared to the other devices...
MGREX said:
The Mi3, Z1, G2, S4, Note 3, all pack the same S800 SoC of the N5 and all of them surpass it on benchmarks. The rest of the specs are mostly the same as well, like same screen resolution and RAM, the only exception being the Note with has 3GB but that one takes the cake and even wins against its own octacore version.
IMO it makes no sense, being made by google the N5 should be the best optimized of all 6 phone, and instead seems to be the least, any reasons?
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One contributing factor is that the manufactures rig their phones to detect specific benchmark software and make the CPU/GPU run at full optimization. The nexus line of phones do not practice in such practice.http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Mainly because a lack of Qualcomm libs optimizations: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537299, flash this and you will have the same scores. Why they are not in the N5: explanation in the FAQ.
Plus maybe a different thermal management compared to the other devices...
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Thanks, any idea why those were not included?
dslisfree said:
One contributing factor is that the manufactures rig their phones to detect specific benchmark software and make the CPU/GPU run at full optimization. The nexus line of phones do not practice in such practice.http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
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Hahaha man, I knew chinese phone companies were cheating all the time, but that actually explains why the Note 3 smokes everybody
Glad the Nexus is still holding, just hope the rumors about the end of the brand/line are not true
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Thanks, any idea why those were not included
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I provided a link to the FAQ...
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I provided a link to the FAQ...
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Whoops my bad :silly:
Who cares about benchmarks? They're such nonsense, seriously. N5 is fast, smooth and does everything I could ask a phone to do for me. What more do you ask for?
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Thanks, any idea why those were not included?
Hahaha man, I knew chinese phone companies were cheating all the time, but that actually explains why the Note 3 smokes everybody
Glad the Nexus is still holding, just hope the rumors about the end of the brand/line are not true
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Samsung is south Korean .
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ArtieQ said:
Who cares about benchmarks? They're such nonsense, seriously. N5 is fast, smooth and does everything I could ask a phone to do for me. What more do you ask for?
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Hi
Because a user can't have the right to know why the N5 scores lower in benches compared to other devices with the same hardware???
It's nonsense to me such a reply like yours.
Nobody is speaking about smoothness or not..., maybe YOU don't care about benches, but other users could care and I don't see a problem to that.
Always the same posts/replies like that again and again when there is the word "benchmark" is annoying. Well, it's the "good thought" to follow about benches...
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Your worrying about the wrong things. But to each his own. Benches are just big **** contests.
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Benchmarks don't reflect real use. Everyone knows that....and that's why most could care less about them.
But hey....knock yourselves out trying to improve yours.
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Example...Many people say their S4 lags, especially right out of the box.....yet it can score higher than an N5....according to this thread?
Laughable.
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The S4 is a very poor quality and performing device. I had one for a week and the lag kills me. Everyone knows benchmarks are useless
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Lucky_Slevin said:
The S4 is a very poor quality and performing device. I had one for a week and the lag kills me. Everyone knows benchmarks are useless
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I don't care about benchmarks too but regarding Samsung's latest devices the benchmarks have been (will be ) rigged. This contributes to the poor interest of benchmarks but we can't compare the Galaxy UI lags with the scores provided in the benchmarks.
If you don't care about benches, fine. But to come an crap all over those that find interest in them, that is troll like behavior.
If you do not subscribe or care, why the Frak did you open this thread an then spew nonsense into it on those participating?
Ridiculous is the useless negative replies in this thread!
WR
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The "negative " posts as they're being called are directly answering the title of the thread. Explaining why, in the posters opinion, those devices score better.
If answers that don't agree with your opinion upset anyone, don't ask the question to begin with.
So to summarize: why does the N5 score lower, when in real life application it obviously performs better? Cause benchmarks don't reflect real use, maybe they are biased...etc etc.
A relevant, opinion based answer.
Please don't call me a troll cause I have a reasonable opinion.
Calling people a troll btw, unless it is obvious they are just trying to cause trouble, is disrespectful and against xda rules. If you think they are trolling, report the post and let a moderator decide.
Thank you.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
Lets sue the OP for wasting a (small) part of our life (jk). Thread with little value or importance.
gee2012 said:
Lets sue the OP for wasting a (small) part of our life (jk). Thread with little value or importance.
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Its not a waste, and is a genuine question.
Talk about no value and I believe you hit it squarely on the head.
Again, if its not worthy to you, why crap on it?
WR
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No wonder people that help here, stop eventually.
Negative Nancy's nearly everywhere.
WR
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Its not a waste, and is a genuine question.
Talk about no value and I believe you hit it squarely on the head.
Again, if its not worthy to you, why crap on it?
WR
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No wonder people that help here, stop eventually.
Negative Nancy's nearly everywhere.
WR
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People that genuinly want to help will keep on doing so, folks that are after raising the thanks meter wil stop eventualy. Has nothing to do with `negativ` comments imo. there are no saints here. Sometimes you get fedup with these type of pointless threads.
My point still stands, to offer nothing constructive but negative is trolling like behavior.
WR
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WarRaven said:
My point still stands, to offer nothing constructive but negative is trolling like behavior.
WR
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My friend.....what have you done your last few posts, except complain about other posts?
And again.....you're generalizing the term negative (and attaching the word troll to it) because you disagree with some people.
Who's trolling here really?
If I say that most the respected actual contributers on xda (aka devs ) would agree that benchmarks do not reflect real life experience .......therefore, some may say they're meaningless......that makes me a troll? Cause you disagree?
Now a large part of anything on xda is based off opinions.....and opinions that don't coincide with yours should not be labeled trolling.
So really, have a more open mind. Almost every thread on xda has its share of debate. People disagree, that's life. Stop antagonizing people by telling them to leave the thread or calling them a troll. Or else you could find the devs coming down on you....not the "trolls".
Sorry for the OT......I'm done.
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Translation if exact:
Hi everyone is
concerned about the recent part of rice noodles care about the red rice phone 4 high version with Android 7.0, this proposal we have noticed very early, and the internal communication and coordination. The latest conclusion is that the red rice cell phone 4 version with no adaptation of Android 7.0 plan. Here's a detailed description of the situation with you.
Some people say that the underlying Android is not a very simple matter? In actual fact, each time the end-of-package version upgrade is a huge project, which involves various aspects of adaptation, adjustment, etc., the actual work is very complicated. Each Android version update, we will seriously evaluate, not to simply upgrade the Android version number and adaptation. In fact, many of MIUI system features experience even earlier than the Android version, such as rights management, wake up power-saving features such as MIUI is the first. We very much hope that through the MIUI system upgrade to bring you more fun and easy to use features.
After engineers, product managers and project management departments negotiate a number of comprehensive assessment and decision, red rice cell phone 4 high version with no current Android 7.x adaptation plan. But for everyone concerned about the split screen, portal, information assistant function, as well as MIUI 9 stable version of the release plan has some new progress, and here to share with you.
Split screen:
split screen team engineers are currently actively adapted based on Android 6.x models, is expected to go online in early January to 6.x trial version of the model to be tested until the test is completed, it will go online to the development version And follow-up stable version.
Portal:
Currently supports Android 5.x and above models.
Information Assistant:
Currently supports Android 5.x and above models, Android 4.4 version of the model support does not include "My expenses", "My Favorites" two cards other information assistant function.
MIUI 9 stable version:
Red rice cell phone 4 standard / high version of the MIUI 9 stable version has been tested in-house, is expected in mid-to-late open part of the rice for closed beta, to be tested after the push update to everyone upgrade, will push to upgrade, please everyone rest assured.
MIUI is committed to providing you with a better system experience. For the Android underlay, we also make a comprehensive evaluation based on the characteristics of different models to determine the fit plan. Thank you for your love of millet and MIUI team work understanding, and sometimes, do not say do not mean do not do, we must do a good job, this is MIUI
If you have a better idea, please leave a message with us Exchange ~
Source:
http://www.miui.com/thread-11634030-1-1.html
I guess its time to flush this mobile in toilet.
It was a nice sad story with Xiaomi and i wish this company will learn about valuable customers.
I still have faith in Xiaomi if they changed themselves.
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That was expected.But still noone gives a valid explanation why same hardwarre, different screen size phone will get android 7 and not RN4 prime.The whole situation is a joke.
kardinal969 said:
I guess its time to flush this mobile in toilet.
It was a nice sad story with Xiaomi and i wish this company will learn about valuable customers.
I still have faith in Xiaomi if they changed themselves.
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You can donate it to unterwelt instead of flushing it into toilet, that will help us to get oreo faster
T3sla said:
That was expected.But still noone gives a valid explanation why same hardwarre, different screen size phone will get android 7 and not RN4 prime.The whole situation is a joke.
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One possible explanation is that probably markw isn't actually a xiaomi's in-house product and they dumping it because ODM is failing to/not interested in/refusing to provide xiaomi with updated kernel/blobs. "It's too complex" explanation is too childish to be heard from technology corporation.
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One possible explanation is that probably markw isn't actually a xiaomi's in-house product and they dumping it because ODM is failing to/not interested in/refusing to provide xiaomi with updated kernel/blobs. "It's too complex" explanation is too childish to be heard from technology corporation.
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Not only childish but insulting too.You can't dump a phone you sell as prime/pro and people paid signifficant more money not only for better hardware but better support too.After mi2s and R4P i think i'm done with xiaomi.On top of that, it seems the new Redmi's have smaller batteries so i can't find a good reason to trust xiaomi for my next phone.
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Not only childish but insulting too.You can't dump a phone you sell as prime/pro and people paid signifficant more money not only for better hardware but better support too.After mi2s and R4P i think i'm done with xiaomi.On top of that, it seems the new Redmi's have smaller batteries so i can't find a good reason to trust xiaomi for my next phone.
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Yeah, their updated product line is pure disappointment. Bigger screens, smaller batteries, same SoCs. Meh.
Lets wait for their golden boy product, Redmi Note 5 that speculated to use snapdragon 636.
here is a post from en.miui.com: http://en.miui.com/thread-1001529-1-1.html
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Lets wait for their golden boy product, Redmi Note 5 that speculated to use snapdragon 636.
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Are they going to replace our markws with this at no price and will take legal obligations to provide base system updates for at least two major versions? No? Then thanks, but no, thanks. Personally, I'll keep using mine till noticeable battery degradation. Then I'll switch to other vendor.
dels07 said:
Lets wait for their golden boy product, Redmi Note 5 that speculated to use snapdragon 636.
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Yeah 636, the new holy grail for two more years i guess.So basically 10-15% performance bump, unknown support policy, significant smaller battery and no medium size screen.Oh right...maybe they'll make a prime version with sd 660, after 6-8 months of the first R5 release, wich will come with android 7 and stay with 7 just a few months before the R6 release.Nope...
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Are they going to replace our markws with this at no price and will take legal obligations to provide base system updates for at least two major versions? No? Then thanks, but no, thanks. Personally, I'll keep using mine till noticeable battery degradation. Then I'll switch to other vendor.
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That is exactly my plan too.
There is a petition for Redmi 4 Prime.
If you want you can help us with it (or just try)
https://www.change.org/p/xiaomi-mas...ium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
N1ck474 said:
There is a petition for Redmi 4 Prime.
If you want you can help us with it (or just try)
https://www.change.org/p/xiaomi-mas...ium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
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Xiaomi constantly ignores requests on their own forum, what makes you think this petition would be noticed? I would rather suggest mass recruitment requests for beta-testing Oreo (who needs Nougat, anyway?) in a (very little) hope these requests are processed by officials (unlike forum requests that are moderated by usual users, mods there aren't xiaomi employees, afaik) and there will be some kind of output.
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Xiaomi constantly ignores requests on their own forum, what makes you think this petition would be noticed? I would rather suggest mass recruitment requests for beta-testing Oreo (who needs Nougat, anyway?) in a (very little) hope these requests are processed by officials (unlike forum requests that are moderated by usual users, mods there aren't xiaomi employees, afaik) and there will be some kind of output.
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I haven't created this petition, it's just a try from MIUI Forum, if you want you can help, if you don't it's ok, i've just shared the link.
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I haven't created this petition, it's just a try from MIUI Forum, if you want you can help, if you don't it's ok, i've just shared the link.
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I know where it originates from. Also, I signed it, though I think it's not going to work. Peace.
@N1ck474 not going to work dude :| History shows they don't give a damn about petitions.I signed though...
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@N1ck474 not going to work dude :| History shows they don't give a damn about petitions.I signed though...
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I know, but we don't lose anything so...why not?
Sort of official statement (provided by one of xiaomi forum's supermods) related to thread subject. In short words - maybe later. Not this time.
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Sort of official statement (provided by one of xiaomi forum's supermods) related to thread subject. In short words - maybe later. Not this time.
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Haha... complex issues in compatibility??? Guys are a joke, they even erase a message from brigudav.There is not going to be a "later" for sure.
redmi 5 plus vs redmi 4 prime = same spec. = Nougat 7.1 vs MM 6
xiaomi and the magic miui, sorry but you finished for me.
Now that Xiaomi has failed to deliver a timely update for the MI A1 and they have totally failed to communicate any issues in regard to the February update, we can rightfully assume that this phone can no longer be called an Android One phone.
Also, if Xiaomi's MIUI forums and Twitter are of any indication, they don't care about the MI A1 a tiny bit and they keep touting the MIUI Android skin.
If you want to say something about rooting, alternative ROMs or adb, please, don't. Most people have bought into the Android One project/promises. They have been deceived.
It's far fetched to say that Xiaomi has failed as whole. They have delivered this far and yes, sometimes they publicly indicate that MIUI>STOCK Android by deleting the comparison poll. I think the whole issue is with Google taking multiple Android one projects and then ignoring/forgetting about older projects, and Xiaomi just aggravating the delay.
birdie said:
Now that Xiaomi has failed to deliver a timely update for the MI A1 and they have totally failed to communicate any issues in regard to the February update, we can rightfully assume that this phone can no longer be called an Android One phone.
Also, if Xiaomi's MIUI forums and Twitter are of any indication, they don't care about the MI A1 a tiny bit and they keep touting the MIUI Android skin.
If you want to say something about rooting, alternative ROMs or adb, please, don't. Most people have bought into the Android One project/promises. They have been deceived.
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Can we do something to make them realize wgat they're doing is wrong? They need to know what they're users feel not individually but being united somehow might help!!
You really shouldn't worry. One single security update is not gonna kill you, so to speak. I'm pretty sure they are doing a ton of work just to bring a better experience than it is now.
Don't forget their holidays. They haven't been able to work on the device for quite a while, so I'm sure they'll come up with March security update faster than February, if they will.
Wow. A Brand new thread on Xiaomi hate. Keep up the good work.
@[OP] I have request that you should change "we" in your statement "we can assume....a1 is not an android one phone." To "i/me and like minded people".
Why such a bizzare request?
1) "We" represents a much larger group.
2) Your assumption won't change the fact that A1 was/is/will be an android one phone. (Not a fan. But in general too tired of threads like this popping up.
3) just like this thread my post is pointless too.
4) i may have been insensitive earlier. I dont know your pain and suffering. In India you can go to consumer court and file a complaint on false advertisement. Maybe you have something like that in your country. Or you can just sue them for the deception, false advertisement, physical/mental/emotional suffering, etc. You may even get compensated. Good luck.
And if anyone wants to debate over it please drop me a PM.
Regards.
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0_RoXoR_0 said:
Can we do something to make them realize wgat they're doing is wrong? They need to know what they're users feel not individually but being united somehow might help!!
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United? Individually? What they're doing is wrong?
Really
Are you from some part of world where xiaomi is your oppressor like Admiral-General Aladeen and he's forcing you guys to use this phone at gun point ( safety is set to aladeen).
Trolling aside i really hope you are not living under dictatorship.
In free countries you can choose your phones. And there are hundreds of choices.
Long live freedom
Monthly updates for the Mi A1 were never promised by Xiaomi or Google. U misinterpreted "regular security software updates". Try to find a original Xiaomi or Google source saying montly, you will only find regular or frequent.
Example...
With frequent security updates and Google Play Protect, Android One phones are among the most secure. Google Play Protect automatically finds and disables threats while notifying you of anything you may need to look at further.
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So just stop expecting monthly updates, they were never promised officialy.
I agree. It has been two months since the last update, and the battery issues are still not resolved. Low quality 8.0 from December is still the latest official build and we have march already. 8.1 is out for like 4 months? Xiaomi succeeded with mi a1, yet they treat it like an unwanted child. Never seen a worse support, to be honest.
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I agree. It has been two months since the last update, and the battery issues are still not resolved. Low quality 8.0 from December is still the latest official build and we have march already. 8.1 is out for like 4 months? Xiaomi succeeded with mi a1, yet they treat it like an unwanted child. Never seen a worse support, to be honest.
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To be honest?
What was promised? Android 8.0, Android 8.1?
No, you were promised AndroidO (not a numer). You'll also get AndroidP.
And again, you were never promised monthly patches.
alkesh95 said:
Wow. A Brand new thread on Xiaomi hate. Keep up the good work.
@[OP] I have request that you should change "we" in your statement "we can assume....a1 is not an android one phone." To "i/me and like minded people".
Why such a bizzare request?
1) "We" represents a much larger group.
2) Your assumption won't change the fact that A1 was/is/will be an android one phone. (Not a fan. But in general too tired of threads like this popping up.
3) just like this thread my post is pointless too.
4) i may have been insensitive earlier. I dont know your pain and suffering. In India you can go to consumer court and file a complaint on false advertisement. Maybe you have something like that in your country. Or you can just sue them for the deception, false advertisement, physical/mental/emotional suffering, etc. You may even get compensated. Good luck.
And if anyone wants to debate over it please drop me a PM.
Regards.
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United? Individually? What they're doing is wrong?
Really
Are you from some part of world where xiaomi is your oppressor like Admiral-General Aladeen and he's forcing you guys to use this phone at gun point ( safety is set to aladeen).
Trolling aside i really hope you are not living under dictatorship.
In free countries you can choose your phones. And there are hundreds of choices.
Long live freedom
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Understand what I mean to say we are their customers n we need to make them realize about what their customers think about them all together idk y I've been facing so dumb people on xda nowadays who can't understand their customer rights, we are consumers n we have some consumer rights I hope u learned a bit of economics in school ofc if u ever went to rather than trolling add a lil stress to ur tiny brain with lame sense of humour n think about it....
Regards ?
Edit: united as in we people ask individually what's wrong and they shu us of with silly reasons like postponed, think lil bit bigger I don't find a single point of urs on target what dictatorship? We chose them to serve with their services n their products n if they don't do it we should take necessary measures
I don't even understand why do I need to explain such simole things so briefly as if u were a kindergarten kid who had no idea about it
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My post was right on point I wonder y these kids with low IQ wanna debate on things they don't understand or don't think before typing huge paragraphs with their lame sarcasm to prove their point which doesn't make any sense just to show how dumb they are..!
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I agree. It has been two months since the last update
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i received last update on 24/26 February, so is 1 month and some days, not 2 months.
also, there are user receiving yesterday the stable February update, seems.
why this kind of topic are full of people complaining exaggerating things like my grandma?
people, seriously...
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Understand what I mean to say we are their customers n we need to make them realize about what their customers think about them all together idk y I've been facing so dumb people on xda nowadays who can't understand their customer rights, we are consumers n we have some consumer rights I hope u learned a bit of economics in school ofc if u ever went to rather than trolling add a lil stress to ur tiny brain with lame sense of humour n think about it....
Regards ?
Edit: united as in we people ask individually what's wrong and they shu us of with silly reasons like postponed, think lil bit bigger I don't find a single point of urs on target what dictatorship? We chose them to serve with their services n their products n if they don't do it we should take necessary measures
I don't even understand why do I need to explain such simole things so briefly as if u were a kindergarten kid who had no idea about it
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My post was right on point I wonder y these kids with low IQ wanna debate on things they don't understand or don't think before typing huge paragraphs with their lame sarcasm to prove their point which doesn't make any sense just to show how dumb they are..!
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Get lost from xda n go cry inside mi's hq... maybe they can help...noobs
I got no problem with the MiA1, from whatever point..
I use it, I maximize it, I optimize it, for my daily mobile warrior.. MiA1 is fun, MiA1 is awesome and to me for me it delivers what it says... aside from the camera, which I installed the GCam
regular updates does not mean monthly update.. if its not broken (totally) why fix it?! :silly:
don't hate something too much, if you don't like your phone.. sell it then buy something else like those much more expensive phones and also has many flaws / bugs.. heey even the pixel or the S8 has flaws and bugs.. :victory:
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Get lost from xda n go cry inside mi's hq... maybe they can help...noobs
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Lol:laugh:
Yet another hate thread about xiaomi. This above me me is kinda right why not make a thread on mi forums so that admins and mods can read it.
Be happy that your phone is always up to date other oem dont care about updating their phone monthly.
Im sick of this kinda of thread making XDA like Mi Forums!
This should be closed to avoid arguing and hate.
ГАСООП said:
I agree. It has been two months since the last update, and the battery issues are still not resolved. Low quality 8.0 from December is still the latest official build and we have march already. 8.1 is out for like 4 months? Xiaomi succeeded with mi a1, yet they treat it like an unwanted child. Never seen a worse support, to be honest.
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You clearly haven't used android for a long time. I have seen far worse support.
It's all about priorities. Just like a booty call is priority when compared to other task. MIUI has much higher priority as they have invested in that since the beginning of Xiaomi. A1 is the bastard child of xiaomi with Google. That's why it gets left out.
0_RoXoR_0 said:
Understand what I mean to say we are their customers n we need to make them realize about what their customers think about them all together idk y I've been facing so dumb people on xda nowadays who can't understand their customer rights, we are consumers n we have some consumer rights I hope u learned a bit of economics in school ofc if u ever went to rather than trolling add a lil stress to ur tiny brain with lame sense of humour n think about it....
Regards ?
Edit: united as in we people ask individually what's wrong and they shu us of with silly reasons like postponed, think lil bit bigger I don't find a single point of urs on target what dictatorship? We chose them to serve with their services n their products n if they don't do it we should take necessary measures
I don't even understand why do I need to explain such simole things so briefly as if u were a kindergarten kid who had no idea about it
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My post was right on point I wonder y these kids with low IQ wanna debate on things they don't understand or don't think before typing huge paragraphs with their lame sarcasm to prove their point which doesn't make any sense just to show how dumb they are..!
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Screw infractions.
Do you even know what you are talking about. You bought that device on your own. You aren't stuck with it. You can sell/exchange. Let's assume you are stuck.
Economics you said right. So according to you it must walk in park to make cheap devices with acceptable hardware.
The moment you bought it you knew you were compromising. ( Only people who are allowed to deny this are those who has a1 as secondary/test device).
How many devices are there with oreo in same price range. F**k oreo. How many device got Jan update in same price range.(nougat)
Don't forget money is the most important factor.
Quality of a commodity is directly proportional to its cost.
Let that commodity be food you eat, roof under you live, even good toilet papers cost more money then normal ones and people use both types to do just one thing wipe the sh!t.
Let's get back to you being a great, kind, fearless, bravehearted, benevolent customer to Xiaomi.
If you go to fight Xiaomi even with like minded people. You will eat dirt majestically.
Why because the powerusers are small percentage of a larger user group.
And Xiaomi wants to sell these device to that larger group not you. If Xiaomi knew you personally they will never sell you their phones.
Do you even know why XDA exist?
Certainly not for *****ing against OEM.
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wawing_b said:
I got no problem with the MiA1, from whatever point..
I use it, I maximize it, I optimize it, for my daily mobile warrior.. MiA1 is fun, MiA1 is awesome and to me for me it delivers what it says... aside from the camera, which I installed the GCam
regular updates does not mean monthly update.. if its not broken (totally) why fix it?! :silly:
don't hate something too much, if you don't like your phone.. sell it then buy something else like those much more expensive phones and also has many flaws / bugs.. heey even the pixel or the S8 has flaws and bugs.. :victory:
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Please find more people like you and bring them here.
alkesh95 said:
You clearly haven't used android for a long time. I have seen far worse support.
It's all about priorities. Just like a booty call is priority when compared to other task. MIUI has much higher priority as they have invested in that since the beginning of Xiaomi. A1 is the bastard child of xiaomi with Google. That's why it gets left out.
Screw infractions.
Do you even know what you are talking about. You bought that device on your own. You aren't stuck with it. You can sell/exchange. Let's assume you are stuck.
Economics you said right. So according to you it must walk in park to make cheap devices with acceptable hardware.
The moment you bought it you knew you were compromising. ( Only people who are allowed to deny this are those who has a1 as secondary/test device).
How many devices are there with oreo in same price range. F**k oreo. How many device got Jan update in same price range.(nougat)
Don't forget money is the most important factor.
Quality of a commodity is directly proportional to its cost.
Let that commodity be food you eat, roof under you live, even good toilet papers cost more money then normal ones and people use both types to do just one thing wipe the sh!t.
Let's get back to you being a great, kind, fearless, bravehearted, benevolent customer to Xiaomi.
If you go to fight Xiaomi even with like minded people. You will eat dirt majestically.
Why because the powerusers are small percentage of a larger user group.
And Xiaomi wants to sell these device to that larger group not you. If Xiaomi knew you personally they will never sell you their phones.
Do you even know why XDA exist?
Certainly not for *****ing against OEM.
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Please find more people like you and bring them here.
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There is no point in debating with fools they always bring up something pointless and try to prove they are right
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apexashwin said:
Get lost from xda n go cry inside mi's hq... maybe they can help...noobs
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Who are u to tell me what to do fk off
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t0per666 said:
Lol:laugh:
Yet another hate thread about xiaomi. This above me me is kinda right why not make a thread on mi forums so that admins and mods can read it.
Be happy that your phone is always up to date other oem dont care about updating their phone monthly.
Im sick of this kinda of thread making XDA like Mi Forums!
This should be closed to avoid arguing and hate.
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Yeah I meant to ask y'all something like this but some fools wanna debate pointelessly ssly N get offended for no reason anywayd thnx for suggestions bro
Already saw thousands of posts on Mi forum about the same topic which are of no use. Save xda from this crap.
Oh this guy again, IDK what a little delay in OTA harms you, but seeing your thread history you are kinda of a cry baby, even with your LE phone.
Hmm
The original thread you made to do this was closed. Please do not open up any more, this is likely to end up in the same flame filled content. Furthermore, its against the rules to duplicate threads.
Thread closed
And deservedly so I say. Great phone.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/12/04/vivo-nex-crosses-2-million-sales-in-just-6-months/
Totally agree one of the greatest and most beautiful smartphone ever purchased.
Despite some 2-3 software related issues but I’m very pleased 5 months I’m owning the device.
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paatha13 said:
Totally agree one of the greatest and most beautiful smartphone ever purchased.
Despite some 2-3 software related issues but I’m very pleased 5 months I’m owning the device.
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Hey man I am happy to read this, I saw you early posts and stuff, you had some frustrations with the phone. Cool to see it turn to a success story ?
CapraSebi said:
Hey man I am happy to read this, I saw you early posts and stuff, you had some frustrations with the phone. Cool to see it turn to a success story [emoji16]
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Well when I’m not pleased with some software aspect issue does not mean that I’m not satisfied from device overall.
Every phone actually has positive and negative software or hardware related.
When there’s room from software improvements users are pointing to it and that’s happening to every device out there IMO.
That’s all
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The best phone i've seen in the market right now including iphone, pixel, samsung, huawei mate...
Xiaomi Redmi 8A the phone cheaper than Mi A2 Lite. Spotted on Geekbench with Android 10.
I guess Xiaomi didnt even started to develop Android 10 update for Mi A2 Lite. But theyre working hard for cheaper and Non-Android One device.
Well done Xiaomi!
Source:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15169331
I believe they have separate teams for AndroidOne and MIUI softwares, so this is not unexpected. Don't yell at me though, I know Xiaomi is late with their update. We're just gonna have to be a bit more patient.
marstonpear said:
I believe they have separate teams for AndroidOne and MIUI softwares, so this is not unexpected. Don't yell at me though, I know Xiaomi is late with their update. We're just gonna have to be a bit more patient.
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It would be.
Mi UI much harder to implement than Android One. They have resources for harder one but not easy one. There is dead silence about it on Xiaomi side.
Clearly theyre following a policy called 'sell and forget'
I don't think Mi A2 Lite will get Android 10. All the signs from Xiaomi do not give many hopes.
FRibeiro1400 said:
I don't think Mi A2 Lite will get Android 10. All the signs from Xiaomi do not give many hopes.
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Thanks for sharing your opinion, although you're wrong.
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perfect_ said:
It would be.
Mi UI much harder to implement than Android One. They have resources for harder one but not easy one. There is dead silence about it on Xiaomi side.
Clearly theyre following a policy called 'sell and forget'
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They have many MIUI devices, so MIUI team is probably way more crowded and better funded than AndroidOne team. This is not exactly a matter of easy/hard. I'm not defending Xiaomi here by the way, just saying.
marstonpear said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion, although you're wrong.
I don't know if I am wrong. It's a feeling I have because the signs sent do not look positive. Knowing it's up to the manufacturer to provide the update (to 10 because security patches they will provide while in the program) I wouldn't be surprised if there's no update to 10. At the end of the day, we know nothing, so you cannot say I am wrong and you right (or vice-versa). Fact is you do not know as well, right?
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Thanks for sharing your opinion, although you're wrong.
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They have many MIUI devices, so MIUI team is probably way more crowded and better funded than AndroidOne team. This is not exactly a matter of easy/hard. I'm not defending Xiaomi here by the way, just saying.
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Their job is easy after Project Treble and Mi A2 Lite supports it. Also there is no customized UI. This is exactly a matter of easy/hard.
Xiaomi promised Android 10 update for Mi A2 Lite and we still waiting. There is no excuse!
This is my last Xiaomi phone btw. I'll never ever gonna experience this type of things again.
I bought my phone because of the Aluminum chasis. Not for Android One. I dont like plastic/glass phones.
FRibeiro1400 said:
marstonpear said:
Thanks for sharing your opinion, although you're wrong.
I don't know if I am wrong. It's a feeling I have because the signs sent do not look positive. Knowing it's up to the manufacturer to provide the update (to 10 because security patches they will provide while in the program) I wouldn't be surprised if there's no update to 10. At the end of the day, we know nothing, so you cannot say I am wrong and you right (or vice-versa). Fact is you do not know as well, right?
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I know that Xiaomi has to provide us an upgrade to Android 10, whether it is late or early, because our phone hasn't received 2 years of guaranteed Android updates yet. These are Google's words, not Xiaomi's and I happen to trust Google :
https://in.pcmag.com/business/12774...ill-get-2-years-of-guaranteed-android-updates
perfect_ said:
Their job is easy after Project Treble and Mi A2 Lite supports it. Also there is no customized UI. This is exactly a matter of easy/hard.
Xiaomi promised Android 10 update for Mi A2 Lite and we still waiting. There is no excuse!
This is my last Xiaomi phone btw. I'll never ever gonna experience this type of things again.
I bought my phone because of the Aluminum chasis. Not for Android One. I dont like plastic/glass phones.
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This is also my first and last Xiaomi smartphone. I also expected more from Xiaomi and AndroidOne program, I hate to admit though, that Xiaomi hasn't broken any rules yet. They've given us an update every month, whether it was stable or not, or whether it was early or pretty late in the month. I'm sharing the same feelings with you guys, I am frustrated. But there's nothing we can do but wait. Cheers.
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