Screen on time - Lenovo Phab 2 Plus Real Life Review

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Lenovo Phab 2 Plus before depleting the battery.
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Poor if you're using it as a phone (4G turned on all the time).
Excellent if using wifi (like a tablet).
Outstanding if offline...f* offline.
Still how come the P1 and P2 5.5 inch have 5000ma and this 6.4 beast only 4000ma

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Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Meizu M2 / M2 Mini before depleting the battery.
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4.5 hour still after 2 year
murtaza1326 said:
4.5 hour still after 2 year
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Me too

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Honor 7X stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
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Using it from last 20days i feel no heating issue while on charging also
maximran said:
Using it from last 20days i feel no heating issue while on charging also
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Same here and Gaming
Mine heats up
Heats up a little but not bad at all. Never so much it's uncomfortable to hold.
If You Have Heat...
Surf3rDud3 said:
Mine heats up
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A Little Advice..
If you do indeed have heat while charging with the OEM charger or light gaming.. and you are still within your 15 return / replace policy ( at least that's what it is when you purchase from the Honor U.S.A. website ) you need to swap out your unit or get your refund.
Heat is ALWAYS an early precursor to a shorter than normal lifespan.
If you are ok with this, or plan to sell the 7X in lieu of something else later this year.. then it's not that big of a deal.
For those that plan to make this a 1 to 2 year device.. and you can still return / exchange it.. I would advise that you do so.
All phones heat up these days. Especially during charge or heavy use. All said honor 7x don't heat up much.
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All phones heat up these days. Especially during charge or heavy use. All said honor 7x don't heat up much.
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from lg g flex 2 who was famous for heating i passed to honor 7x and i cant notice any heat at al even when i charge and use. i love this phone

Battery

The Google page only shows one battery size for the two phones. Is that right?
It is kind of confusing on the page but the battery sizes are different.
Pixel 3: 2915mAh
Pixel 3 XL: 3430mAh
So disappointing for both on the battery.
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The Google page only shows one battery size for the two phones. Is that right?
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Maybe you saw a typo?
The Pixel 3 is a decent increase over the Pixel 2 but not quite the 3000mAh of the S9.
Don't get why the XL dropped from 3520mAh but I wouldn't cry over a 2.5% decrease. But would've been nice for something in between the Pixel 2 XL and the Note 9 capacity.
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I hate to be that guy, but can we wait for some real use scenarios before we jump to conclusions? I'm all for battery life, but mAh capacity means nothing without use.
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Maybe you saw a typo?
The Pixel 3 is a decent increase over the Pixel 2 but not quite the 3000mAh of the S9.
Don't get why the XL dropped from 3520mAh but I wouldn't cry over a 2.5% decrease. But would've been nice for something in between the Pixel 2 XL and the Note 9 capacity. View attachment 4615976
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The Pixel 3 battery is not a decent increase over the Pixel 2. It's only 8% which is nothing when you consider the fact that the Pixel 3 has a 13% larger screen and 12.5% more pixels. That 8% is easily used up (and more) by the increase in battery usage from the bigger display and more pixels. The battery life of the Pixel 2 was already pretty bad. Hardly any better than the Nexus 5X and original Pixel.
For the Pixel 3 XL yeah, it's only 2.5% smaller but like the smaller Pixel 3 the Pixel 3 XL has a bigger screen and higher resolution compared to its predecessor.
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I hate to be that guy, but can we wait for some real use scenarios before we jump to conclusions? I'm all for battery life, but mAh capacity means nothing without use.
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You don't really need real world scenarios of the Pixel 3 to get a fairly accurate idea of battery life. You can compare it to similar phones and get a pretty good idea. Look at the Nexus 5X, original Pixel and Pixel 2. All three were pretty close in screen size, were 1920x1080 and had 2700mAh batteries. All 3 got similar battery life. Both Pixel were a little better than the Nexus 5X due to OLED screens and a slightly smaller size but it really wasn't much different.
To get a general idea of battery life you just have to look at the resolution and battery size. It's kind of like cars. If a car company announces a V8 truck with only an 8 gallon gas tank you wouldn't have to wait for real world usage to know it's not going to go that far on a tank of gas. Phones are the same way. The Pixel 3 battery life will be about the same as the Pixel 2 at best and probably closer to the Nexus 5X(which had awful battery life).
True but remember new chips increase performance but also increase battery life. The 845 is, at least supposed to be, 30% more battery than the 835. See: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/tech-new...45-vs-snapdragon-835/articleshow/61959724.cms
Also the Pixel 3 has a bigger screen but is still 1080p and OLED which can be more battery efficient.
I had the Nexus 5X and definitely don't disagree with it's battery life. At least with what I got when I had my original and replacement. I don't get how other got 5+ hours SOT yet I could barely get 3-3.5 hours. Now with my Pixel 2 XL, I can get 5-6 hours easily 50% more SOT(even hit 8 hours while other get up to 10+) yet the screen is 15.3% bigger, is 1440p, the battery is only 30% bigger compared to the Nexus 5X. Real life usage matters because, as the saying goes, YMMV.
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The Pixel 3 battery is not a decent increase over the Pixel 2. It's only 8% which is nothing when you consider the fact that the Pixel 3 has a 13% larger screen and 12.5% more pixels. That 8% is easily used up (and more) by the increase in battery usage from the bigger display and more pixels. The battery life of the Pixel 2 was already pretty bad. Hardly any better than the Nexus 5X and original Pixel.
For the Pixel 3 XL yeah, it's only 2.5% smaller but like the smaller Pixel 3 the Pixel 3 XL has a bigger screen and higher resolution compared to its predecessor.
You don't really need real world scenarios of the Pixel 3 to get a fairly accurate idea of battery life. You can compare it to similar phones and get a pretty good idea. Look at the Nexus 5X, original Pixel and Pixel 2. All three were pretty close in screen size, were 1920x1080 and had 2700mAh batteries. All 3 got similar battery life. Both Pixel were a little better than the Nexus 5X due to OLED screens and a slightly smaller size but it really wasn't much different.
To get a general idea of battery life you just have to look at the resolution and battery size. It's kind of like cars. If a car company announces a V8 truck with only an 8 gallon gas tank you wouldn't have to wait for real world usage to know it's not going to go that far on a tank of gas. Phones are the same way. The Pixel 3 battery life will be about the same as the Pixel 2 at best and probably closer to the Nexus 5X(which had awful battery life).
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EeZeEpEe said:
True but remember new chips increase performance but also increase battery life. The 845 is, at least supposed to be, 30% more battery than the 835. See: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/tech-new...45-vs-snapdragon-835/articleshow/61959724.cms
Also the Pixel 3 has a bigger screen but is still 1080p and OLED which can be more battery efficient.
I had the Nexus 5X and definitely don't disagree with it's battery life. At least with what I got when I had my original and replacement. I don't get how other got 5+ hours SOT yet I could barely get 3-3.5 hours. Now with my Pixel 2 XL, I can get 5-6 hours easily 50% more SOT(even hit 8 hours while other get up to 10+) yet the screen is 15.3% bigger, is 1440p, the battery is only 30% bigger compared to the Nexus 5X. Real life usage matters because, as the saying goes, YMMV.
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Saying that the SD 845 is 30% more efficient than the SD 835 is very misleading. The chip being 30% more efficient doesn't have a very big impact on battery life. If would be like saying your car's air conditioner is 30% more efficient than the previous model so your mileage will be way better. The SoC power usage is nothing compared to the screen.
Yes, it is still 1080p on one side but the aspect ratio has changed. It's no longer 1920x1080. It is now 2160x1080. That's an increase of just over 1/4 million pixels or 12.5% higher than a 1920x1080 display.
I'm glad you agree on the Nexus 5X. The thing is both the Nexus 5X and Pixel 2 had a 1920x1080 screen and a 2700mAh battery and had very similar screen sizes(5" vs 5.2"). The Nexus 5X had a SD 808 and the Pixel 2 had the MUCH MUCH more efficient SD 835. However, the Pixel 2's battery life wasn't much better than the Nexus 5X. Most of the small improvement is because of the Pixel 2 using an AMOLED compared to the Nexus 5X that had a LCD. That shows that chip efficiency doesn't really matter that much so the 30% efficiency improvement of the SD 845 really doesn't matter much.
As far as the Pixel 2 XL I'd say a 30% bigger battery is pretty significant. The 8% increase in battery of the Pixel 3 over the Pixel 2 is much less significant.
And to complicate things even more batteries degrade over time and Android updates have a tendency to decrease battery life. As I've mentioned to you before my Pixel 2 XL battery drain has increased 50%(both standby and screen on time) just because of 3 monthly updates. With the Pixel 3 having a 13% bigger screen and 12.5% more pixels with only an 8% increase in battery compared to the Pixel 2 it's pretty clear the Pixel 3 will have worse battery life than the Pixel 2 right out of the box. A year from now it will probably be in Nexus 5X range battery life. And the Pixel 3 has wireless charging which just makes the battery degrade even faster. I really feel sorry for anyone that buys a Pixel 3 and leaves it on a wireless charger overnight every night. That could be as bad as my old Samsung Galaxy S2 which gives me nightmares.
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Saying that the SD 845 is 30% more efficient than the SD 835 is very misleading. The chip being 30% more efficient doesn't have a very big impact on battery life. If would be like saying your car's air conditioner is 30% more efficient than the previous model so your mileage will be way better. The SoC power usage is nothing compared to the screen.
Yes, it is still 1080p on one side but the aspect ratio has changed. It's no longer 1920x1080. It is now 2160x1080. That's an increase of just over 1/4 million pixels or 12.5% higher than a 1920x1080 display.
I'm glad you agree on the Nexus 5X. The thing is both the Nexus 5X and Pixel 2 had a 1920x1080 screen and a 2700mAh battery and had very similar screen sizes(5" vs 5.2"). The Nexus 5X had a SD 808 and the Pixel 2 had the MUCH MUCH more efficient SD 835. However, the Pixel 2's battery life wasn't much better than the Nexus 5X. Most of the small improvement is because of the Pixel 2 using an AMOLED compared to the Nexus 5X that had a LCD. That shows that chip efficiency doesn't really matter that much so the 30% efficiency improvement of the SD 845 really doesn't matter much.
As far as the Pixel 2 XL I'd say a 30% bigger battery is pretty significant. The 8% increase in battery of the Pixel 3 over the Pixel 2 is much less significant.
And to complicate things even more batteries degrade over time and Android updates have a tendency to decrease battery life. As I've mentioned to you before my Pixel 2 XL battery drain has increased 50%(both standby and screen on time) just because of 3 monthly updates. With the Pixel 3 having a 13% bigger screen and 12.5% more pixels with only an 8% increase in battery compared to the Pixel 2 it's pretty clear the Pixel 3 will have worse battery life than the Pixel 2 right out of the box. A year from now it will probably be in Nexus 5X range battery life. And the Pixel 3 has wireless charging which just makes the battery degrade even faster. I really feel sorry for anyone that buys a Pixel 3 and leaves it on a wireless charger overnight every night. That could be as bad as my old Samsung Galaxy S2 which gives me nightmares.
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This is a lot of speculation. Battery may very well last much more then previous gen.
How big is the S9? 3000 mAh and that has a 5.8 display. So this should be much better if that's how you look at things.
For what it's worth, Nexus 5X vs Pixel 2 GSM Arena battery tests. Coincidentally, 30% better. LOL. Basically I'm posting this because I hardly believe that the Pixel 2 battery was as bad or got as bad as the Nexus 5X. And why I doubt the Pixel 3 would be too.
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So to bring this back jimb1983 was wrong. The 3 gets much better battery life then the 2. Approaching what 2 XL can do.
Here is a review from gizmodo:
That said, in terms of usefulness, one of the standard Pixel 3's biggest upgrades is a larger 2,915 mAh battery that lasted 10 hours and 50 minutes on our rundown test, a big jump up from the paltry 8:59 the Pixel 2 managed last year. Unfortunately, the same can’t be said of the Pixel 3 XL whose 3,430 mAh battery is actually slightly smaller than what you get in a Pixel 2 XL, which resulted in the Pixel 3 XL’s longevity increasing by less than 10 minutes to 11 hours and 24 minutes.
9to5google:
The Pixel 3’s battery comes in at just under 3,000 mAh, while the larger Pixel 3 XL is 3430 mAh. I’m not one to religiously test screen-on-time performance, because I don’t find it to be a helpful indicator of real world use. But I didn’t have a single day with either of these devices where I felt the need to top up between nightly charges, and that’s using them extensively as review devices. The vast majority of people charge their phone once per night, so that’s my litmus test.
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That said, in terms of usefulness, one of the standard Pixel 3's biggest upgrades is a larger 2,915 mAh battery that lasted 10 hours and 50 minutes on our rundown test, a big jump up from the paltry 8:59 the Pixel 2 managed last year.
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That's a good 20% increase from only an 8% battery increase size. Sounds possible to me.
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People need to stop looking at the mAh numbers to know battery life. The only thing that matters is real life battery life endurance.
My pixel 2, that in theory has average battery life, usually puts me at 5-6 hours of SOT. It is, with a massive lead, the best phone I've had in this size range in terms of battery life. It all has to do with the very careful optimizations Google does when it comes to ramping up the CPU and everywhere else. Also, idle battery life is finally starting to work well on Android, and it will work better on November 1st when all updated apps are forced to obey background limit restrictions. I'm excited to see what Pixel 3 has to offer.
milan187 said:
This is a lot of speculation. Battery may very well last much more then previous gen.
How big is the S9? 3000 mAh and that has a 5.8 display. So this should be much better if that's how you look at things.
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3000mAh isn't very big for a 5.8" 2960x1440 screen. The battery life of the S9 isn't very good.
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milan187 said:
So to bring this back jimb1983 was wrong. The 3 gets much better battery life then the 2. Approaching what 2 XL can do.
Here is a review from gizmodo:
That said, in terms of usefulness, one of the standard Pixel 3's biggest upgrades is a larger 2,915 mAh battery that lasted 10 hours and 50 minutes on our rundown test, a big jump up from the paltry 8:59 the Pixel 2 managed last year. Unfortunately, the same can’t be said of the Pixel 3 XL whose 3,430 mAh battery is actually slightly smaller than what you get in a Pixel 2 XL, which resulted in the Pixel 3 XL’s longevity increasing by less than 10 minutes to 11 hours and 24 minutes.
9to5google:
The Pixel 3’s battery comes in at just under 3,000 mAh, while the larger Pixel 3 XL is 3430 mAh. I’m not one to religiously test screen-on-time performance, because I don’t find it to be a helpful indicator of real world use. But I didn’t have a single day with either of these devices where I felt the need to top up between nightly charges, and that’s using them extensively as review devices. The vast majority of people charge their phone once per night, so that’s my litmus test.
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Sorry but you're wrong. It's just simple math and common sense. The screen is by far the biggest battery drain on any phone. That's just a fact. A 5.5" 2160x1080 screen is going to take a lot more power than a 5" 1920x1080 screen. A battery increase of only 8% isn't enough to make up for that huge increase in battery drain from the more power hungry screen.
So someone from 9to5Google was able to get an entire day on a Pixel 3. What was the usage? I was able to get a full day of low endurance usage from my Nexus 5X but that phone had awful battery life. Anything more than like browsing on wifi and it didn't get a full day. Again, it depends on how you are using it. I just went to a music festival this last weekend. My Pixel 2 XL got through a full day of heavy use but didn't have much to spare. The Pixel 2 wouldn't have made it under that usage and the Pixel 3 would have died earlier.
So, I will try to sum it up, in a few words. Depends on usage? Some people sit there and play games a lot; some occasionally browse the web, check news feeds; some browse social media all day; again, depends on usage. You can't judge a phone on mAh. Never understand why battery life was determined on a spec. "EVERYBODY" uses their phone differently.
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EeZeEpEe said:
For what it's worth, Nexus 5X vs Pixel 2 GSM Arena battery tests. Coincidentally, 30% better. LOL. Basically I'm posting this because I hardly believe that the Pixel 2 battery was as bad or got as bad as the Nexus 5X. And why I doubt the Pixel 3 would be too.
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GSM Arena's battery life tests are a freaking joke. I stopped paying attention to them a long time ago. 8.5 hours of web browsing? Hahahaha. Maybe 6.5-7 at best on wifi. And no way was the Pixel 2 that much better. Look at battery life threads here on XDA for the 2 phones.
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GSM Arena's battery life tests are a freaking joke. I stopped paying attention to them a long time ago. 8.5 hours of web browsing? Hahahaha. Maybe 6.5-7 at best on wifi. And no way was the Pixel 2 that much better. Look at battery life threads here on XDA for the 2 phones.
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Like I said, take the test for what they're worth. That's fine they don't worth much to you but they do show better battery with the Pixel 2 over the Nexus 5X.
I was part of the Nexus 5X battery thread and just looked at some Pixel 2 threads (Seems to be less active that Pixel 2 XL ones). I know how bad the 5X was for me but somehow others got 4-5+ hours SOT "easily". I didn't get close to that with two units. With the Pixel 2 threads, I didn't get the impression that it has terrible battery life. People said they get 4-5+ hours SOT and don't need to charge midday.
Also, you never explained how a 30% increase in battery got me 50% better SOT with my Pixel 2 XL which has more pixels to push on a larger, brighter, screen than my 5X? Yes I'm saying this with some sarcasm because it is possible for 8% battery increase to give an improvement. Might not be much but if people in the Pixel 2 thread say they got 4-5 hours SOT then with would be something like 4.5-5.5 hours.
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Daniel Mader is pretty happy with it. Lasting him a while day with heavy usage for him. He said 4-5 hours of SOT. Which is decent.
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netwokz said:
So, I will try to sum it up, in a few words. Depends on usage? Some people sit there and play games a lot; some occasionally browse the web, check news feeds; some browse social media all day; again, depends on usage. You can't judge a phone on mAh. Never understand why battery life was determined on a spec. "EVERYBODY" uses their phone differently.
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It's still something to go by though. Would you get a phone that had 500-750 less mAh than your current phone and not think it would impact you?
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netwokz said:
So, I will try to sum it up, in a few words. Depends on usage? Some people sit there and play games a lot; some occasionally browse the web, check news feeds; some browse social media all day; again, depends on usage. You can't judge a phone on mAh. Never understand why battery life was determined on a spec. "EVERYBODY" uses their phone differently.
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Could not agree more!
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Daniel Mader is pretty happy with it. Lasting him a while day with heavy usage for him. He said 4-5 hours of SOT. Which is decent.
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I got almost 5 hours SOT last night playing with my new toy on its first charge. Pretty heavy usage today since 5am with several calls, numerous notifications, music playing non-stop in the background and I'm at 71% mid-day. Way better than my S8 and at least on par with 2XL. This is only it's second battery cycle and none of the app optimizations have kicked in yet. I'm very optimistic!
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It's still something to go by though. Would you get a phone that had 500-750 less mAh than your current phone and not think it would impact you?
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Depends! Contrary to what's been posted here, a radio trying to hold a faint signal or constantly trying to reconnect can run down a battery much, much faster than a screen. Pegging the processor can also chew up your battery in a heart-beat. That said, there are tons of optimizations that can be introduced in hardware, firmware, and even software that can make a smaller battery outlast a larger one!
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Contrary to what's been posted here, a radio trying to hold a faint signal or constantly trying to reconnect can run down a battery much, much faster than a screen. Pegging the processor can also chew up your battery in a heart-beat!
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Right those two right there affects small and large battery capacity phones. Might as well get as large as battery as you can to begin with.
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Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Samsung Galaxy A70 before depleting the battery.
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All 4g
My best battery life
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My best battery life
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thank u for posting! seems a great battery phone
Only using 4g all the while...
This phone is a beast

Question How has the pixel 6a been so far?

Hello everyone
First time posting here. Umm basically my friend has an iPhone 6 and wants to get the pixel 6a. He has 2 questions, repairability and performance long term.
Will the pixel omegle xender 6a become unusable after 2 years? As I have seen certain users complaining about their 1-2 year old pixel become extremely slow. My friend will be using it for 5 years
Thanks.
The key to a long battery life is mostly all about the charging and temp. management. If you root, you can GREATLY extend batt. longevity by setting it to stop charging @ 80%, try not to go below 20% b4 u charge...and cap. ur temp @ 40-45C afaik. Theoretically it should double ur lifespan. I do 90% cuz I usually upgrade every 2-ish years and even that buys u a nace chunk of time. As for the 6a...luv it thus far.
And this...
How to maximize battery life: Charging habits and other tips
If you've ever wondered what the best way to charge your battery is, here are some scientifically proven tips for maximizing battery life.
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5 years is a lot to expect from a daily used cell phone. There are only so many charging cycles a battery has in it. Heat management (as stated above) is the biggest determining factor for battery longevity and heat management on these (P6 series) is extremely difficult. I would probably skip this device if 5 years is the goal.
panirwane said:
Hello everyone
First time posting here. Umm basically my friend has an iPhone 6 and wants to get the pixel 6a. He has 2 questions, repairability and performance long term.
Will the pixel 6a become unusable after 2 years? As I have seen certain users complaining about their 1-2 year old pixel become extremely slow. My friend will be using it for 5 years
Thanks
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No phone in the price range (or in any price range, frankly) is going to be operating at the same speed after 5 years of use. I'd recommend him to buy a 6/6Pro, or the Pixel 7.
Also, Zaxx mentioned rooting and such - but I guess that can't be expected from an iPhone user (/s).

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