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so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
another thing. stock fw is pretty good but i miss some features, for example long press volume buttons when screen is off to switch songs (without headphones) and unlink notifications/ringtones volume and change volume steps. do you know if i can achieve all this with xposed for example and gravity box? will these features be compatible on huawei?
last thing, i don't use any gapps/services. in the past i used to create flahsable zips for stock firmwares (sony, Samsung etc) to remove all Google stuff, will this work with huawei as well i suppose? or maybe it will prevent phone to boot? dunno how is huawei linked to google stuff.. and if the Google icon in settings will disappear removing google stuff..
tia for any helps guys!
FcukBloat said:
so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
another thing. stock fw is pretty good but i miss some features, for example long press volume buttons when screen is off to switch songs (without headphones) and unlink notifications/ringtones volume and change volume steps. do you know if i can achieve all this with xposed for example and gravity box? will these features be compatible on huawei?
last thing, i don't use any gapps/services. in the past i used to create flahsable zips for stock firmwares (sony, Samsung etc) to remove all Google stuff, will this work with huawei as well i suppose? or maybe it will prevent phone to boot? dunno how is huawei linked to google stuff.. and if the Google icon in settings will disappear removing google stuff..
tia for any helps guys!
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I believe Honor 8 will impress you in terms of photography. As for your desired features, Xposed modules will most likely grant those. For Google stuff, you won't have problems of you delete the right apps.
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thanks for the answer my friend!
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thanks for the answer my friend!
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You are welcome my friend.
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Low light camera is actually very good. Samsung GS7 is the best in this area but H8 comes close.
Overall you'll see a huge quality bump.
You can customize button press, yes.
If you root you can take almost every gaps from H8.
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Low light camera is actually very good. Samsung GS7 is the best in this area but H8 comes close.
Overall you'll see a huge quality bump.
You can customize button press, yes.
If you root you can take almost every gaps from H8.
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Note 3 and 4 rocked as well.
FcukBloat said:
so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
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I can confirm that it makes good (I would not say great it is for the top Samsung devices) pictores in low light. That is the environment where the second camera comes to handy and makes pictures with a bit more light and less noise. The only thing which you have to keep it mind is that you have to hol the phone still since it does not have OIS.
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I can confirm that it makes good (I would not say great it is for the top Samsung devices) pictores in low light. That is the environment where the second camera comes to handy and makes pictures with a bit more light and less noise. The only thing which you have to keep it mind is that you have to hol the phone still since it does not have OIS.
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That's, for me the biggest gripe, the lack of any stabilization, either optical or electronic. I can live without 4K.
i have pretty still hands but my primary need is to take pictures of my baby inside home.. so without that stabilisation thing you think all my pictures will be bad probably? (when baby is moving, so most of the times..)
the huawei gx8 my gf owns has OIS... and the honor 8 doesn't.. how is that possible? gx8 is older and wasn't even a flagship..!! her gx8 indeed takes nice pictures also inside home in the evening or outside with low light.. so is that supposed to take better pictures than the honor8..? my god..
tia!
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i have pretty still hands but my primary need is to take pictures of my baby inside home.. so without that stabilisation thing you think all my pictures will be bad probably? (when baby is moving, so most of the times..)
the huawei gx8 my gf owns has OIS... and the honor 8 doesn't.. how is that possible? gx8 is older and wasn't even a flagship..!! her gx8 indeed takes nice pictures also inside home in the evening or outside with low light.. so is that supposed to take better pictures than the honor8..? my god..
tia!
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You misunderstood me
OIS comes handy when you take a video or a >1/30 picture. In normal light conditions it actually does not have any affect on the picture quality. Usually when there is less light (actually during night) the camera software tries to compensate with taking the picture longer. That is when you can enjoy the benefits of the OIS. But if you hold your phone still there is no much a difference between a camera with OIS and without it only if you zoom in. And even with the dual camera you can take better pictures (the second camera catches more light)
So that is it. And the gx8 could have the OIS because it was a single camera. For two camera you have to create an OIS which moves the two camera simultaneously. The Huawei could just finish the development at the Mate 9.
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thanks chief! so i guess I'll experience it myself soon, am probably ordering one honor 8 today as my mi5 is gonna take ages to get back after repair in China.. and i need a replacement phone soon.
then if it takes better pictures than the mi5 and if development will arrive, will keep it, otherwise will sell it when i get my mi5 back
thanks again!
FcukBloat said:
thanks chief! so i guess I'll experience it myself soon, am probably ordering one honor 8 today as my mi5 is gonna take ages to get back after repair in China.. and i need a replacement phone soon.
then if it takes better pictures than the mi5 and if development will arrive, will keep it, otherwise will sell it when i get my mi5 back
thanks again!
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Your welcome and enjoy the phone (and if there are some great pictures you took you are welcome to share them here in the forum).
Can confirm, absolutely love this phone for photography.
In fact I love this phone hands down, hope you enjoy it was much as I do!
Rate this thread to express how well you can see the OnePlus 5's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I find I fairly often have to adjust it to its brightest (when the automatic adjustment hasn't) in full sun.
No issues here, screen is superb.
Very few issues with this phone, camera when compared to my last phone.
What I would like to have was a better access to the brightness bar. Instead of two swipe downs from the status bar, something more easy and pratical to just quick change the brightness.
Some AOSP roms had swiping on the status bar to change the brightness.
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What I would like to have was a better access to the brightness bar. Instead of two swipe downs from the status bar, something more easy and pratical to just quick change the brightness.
Some AOSP roms had swiping on the status bar to change the brightness.
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You can swipe down with two fingers.
Personally visibility on sun is not that good as I had on OnePlus One or atleast I can't read nothing not direct sun. :/
I asked on other threads about screen legibility, and many owners told me that it's perfect readable under direct sunlight, even more than Mate 9.
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I asked on other threads about screen legibility, and many owners told me that it's perfect readable under direct sunlight, even more than Mate 9.
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I got the Mate 9 Pro and One Plus 5, and honestly my Mate 9 Pro is better under direct sunlight than my OP 5.
If I compare the OP 5 with my Xiaomi Mi Mix, the OP 5 is better under direct sunlight than Mi Mix. I also got the S8 Plus and that is better than the OP 5 under direct sunlight, but not for much.
I still love this phone.
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I got the Mate 9 Pro and One Plus 5, and honestly my Mate 9 Pro is better under direct sunlight than my OP 5.
If I compare the OP 5 with my Xiaomi Mi Mix, the OP 5 is better under direct sunlight than Mi Mix. I also got the S8 Plus and that is better than the OP 5 under direct sunlight, but not for much.
I still love this phone.
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I'm in doubt between these two phones. Actually, the Mate 9 non-pro of 6gb/128gb. Could you help me with your impressions?
Thanks in advance.
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The phone is already difficult to hold with one hand..
For me, it's decent but not great. Better than the Asus Zenfone 2 I came from, but I could definitely have some more brightness under direct Indian sunlight.
I find it pretty hard to see the screen but....I'm 54. You younguns still have good eyes. LOL (As you get older your vision needs more contrast/brightness in general.)
But, it's not just about brightness. It's about glare/reflectivity. If there are a lot of things other than the sun, like all manner of things in the world around us projecting their shiny bits at my phone, then it's mostly unreadable.
I'm going to try a screen protector that is not so reflective.
Csetoue said:
I'm in doubt between these two phones. Actually, the Mate 9 non-pro of 6gb/128gb. Could you help me with your impressions?
Thanks in advance.
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Well, I don't have the mate 9 I have the mate 9 Pro. Honestly I like both, the Mate 9 Pro is a beautiful phone, nice camera, beautiful design. The OP 5 is a nice phone, super fast, camera not impressive, I have the jelly effect, but not bad enough for me to return my phone.
At the end you have to weight your options, do you want good looking phone with good pictures and great design, good battery life, go for the Mate 9. If you want a super fast phone, with good pictures depending on the light and depending on your shaking hands, great battery life and good development support go for the OP 5.
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Csetoue said:
I'm in doubt between these two phones. Actually, the Mate 9 non-pro of 6gb/128gb. Could you help me with your impressions?
Thanks in advance.
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I had the Mate 9 Pro and replaced it with the Oneplus 5.
They both have their strengths, it comes down to what you are looking for.
Something that surprised me though is that I feel the display of the Oneplus 5 is actually better. Even though it's 1080 and the Huawei is 2k.
Considering the price difference, the Oneplus is the better phone. It's also faster and has a better battery life.
The Huawei has infrared port, smarter implementations in the software such as knuckle gestures, screen recording and so on.
In the camera department, the Huawei has a much better front camera because of the auto focus.
The rear camera is also better in the Huawei, but Oneplus gained in a little with the latest update. The Huawei camera is more consistent, whereas the Oneplus is hit and miss sometimes.
And lastly the Huawei has a better design. More stylish.
One of the best performing phones in daylight as it's oled, no problems here at all. Might need to adjust brightness at best.
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The phone is already difficult to hold with one hand..
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You must be yoking. First you're told how to use two fingers rather then one finger two times. Now you can't hold it.
Max brightness is way too low. Wish my OP3 were alive so I could compare them directly, it looks like 5's brightness is lower.
For me, brightness could be a little bit better.
Swipe left and right in the status bar for brightness would be very nice.
I have downloaded this on my Netflix App Stranger Things 3 Ep1. I was using Xs Max prior to this. So when watching this episode I realised its too dark even in daylight scene. So I compared it to iPhone 8 Plus & Xs Max at the same scene & there was Night & Day Difference
No Matter whichever mode I selected the scene looked crap on Op7 pro ,Video Enhancer seemed to have no effect whatsoever.
No my question is ,Is That due to Hdr or screen is very much inferior? Or is it just the calibration done wrong by Oneplus.
If I root & flash custom kernel Will I be able to make it better?
Images attached are in full brightness on all the phones without any edits.
Even Lcd is better than Op7 Pro
Vs 8 plus its Nature Mode & Vs Xs Max its Srgb
I think its only yours. My colors are extremly colorful and sharp.
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I think its only yours. My colors are extremly colorful and sharp.
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In general screen is vibrant & sharp but In videos when compared its not as bright as others
This is the screenshot taken of Comparison between the both from Pocket Now .See the colours, It's dull in Op7 Pro
The One Plus looks for realistic to me. The other phones seem blown out.
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The One Plus looks for realistic to me. The other phones seem blown out.
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Can we tweak this with custom kernel or custom rom like Havoc or Lineage OS
The 7 pro should get brighter then the 8 plus. Compare hdr videos on YouTube.
I noticed the note 9 gets brighter with more clarity in direct sunlight compared to the 7 pro. But the 7 pro istill gets plenty bright and overall I prefer its larger 90hz display. It's possible there could be some variation in displays between units. Only way to test yourself is compare it with another pro.
To me it simply looks like the 7 pro is dimmer, which is normal, and the calibration is different but that mostly depends on how you set it on both. If you're going from an XS Max to a 7 pro DO NOT expect a similar quality screen, apple has way stricter QC and have the best calibrated screens, probably cherry picked as well, it's just a phone that costs nearly twice as much as the other so no surprise. I don't mean the 7 pro is bad, I think it's better than the s10 plus if we leave brightness out of the equation, you just shouldn't expect it to be on par with the more expensive iphones, which are demonstrated to be the best on the market.
For Me Brightness is not an issue, It's just that the screen in the videos seem dull or less vibrant when compared at same brightness levels.It looks like its calibrated in such a way that it suppress colours.
Is it possible to change that with a custom kernel or roms like havoc have their own calibration?
I would have bought S10+ if they launched sd variant here,Exynos is just ridiculous
I have the OP 7 Pro and a friend with an iPhone XS Max and his gets brighter but he likes the looks (color) and sharpness better on the 7 Pro. The pro is more true color and you can punch up the saturation more if you like. I think I have my 7 Pro display set on advanced>Display P3 and the slider bar about 55-60% if you used the Cold at 0% and Warm at 100% so it's slightly toward the warm side from the half way mark of the slider. This gives the 7 Pro display a bit more of a richer color.
Forget about the 90hz, the 7 Pro is just full on ridiculously better then any other phone but the one that's 120hz (Asus or ROG phone I think) especially since you can just force 90hz all apps on the fly (JOnePlus Tool app in Play store) and really see very little battery drain differences.
There is a HBM (high brightness) app you can use. Not sure if you need to be rooted or not. No issues here. Screen is beautiful.
RISHI RAJ said:
I have downloaded this on my Netflix App Stranger Things 3 Ep1. I was using Xs Max prior to this. So when watching this episode I realised its too dark even in daylight scene. So I compared it to iPhone 8 Plus & Xs Max at the same scene & there was Night & Day Difference
No Matter whichever mode I selected the scene looked crap on Op7 pro ,Video Enhancer seemed to have no effect whatsoever.
No my question is ,Is That due to Hdr or screen is very much inferior? Or is it just the calibration done wrong by Oneplus.
If I root & flash custom kernel Will I be able to make it better?
Images attached are in full brightness on all the phones without any edits.
Even Lcd is better than Op7 Pro
Vs 8 plus its Nature Mode & Vs Xs Max its Srgb
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It's a netflix HDR problem, even in 4k TVs.
Try a non HDR movie or series.
I was disappointed as well, but seems like it's got nothing to do with OnePlus.
RISHI RAJ said:
I have downloaded this on my Netflix App Stranger Things 3 Ep1. I was using Xs Max prior to this. So when watching this episode I realised its too dark even in daylight scene. So I compared it to iPhone 8 Plus & Xs Max at the same scene & there was Night & Day Difference
No Matter whichever mode I selected the scene looked crap on Op7 pro ,Video Enhancer seemed to have no effect whatsoever.
No my question is ,Is That due to Hdr or screen is very much inferior? Or is it just the calibration done wrong by Oneplus.
If I root & flash custom kernel Will I be able to make it better?
Images attached are in full brightness on all the phones without any edits.
Even Lcd is better than Op7 Pro
Vs 8 plus its Nature Mode & Vs Xs Max its Srgb
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I was watching the same show on Netflix today and I thought it was bad to. It was daylight out, but was very hard to see. Way to dark. I'm rooted so I don't think that matters. Maybe it's just that recording or stream.
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I was watching the same show on Netflix today and I thought it was bad to. It was daylight out, but was very hard to see. Way to dark. I'm rooted so I don't think that matters. Maybe it's just that recording or stream.
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Can we tweak with a custom kernel that supports it? I'm not rooted but will root if this is possible
You've probably already tried this but try playing around with the different picture settings (Screen calibration).
Also maybe try toggling the video enhancer option as well.
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You've probably already tried this but try playing around with the different picture settings (Screen calibration).
Also maybe try toggling the video enhancer option as well.
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Or one simply *reads* the first post prior to answering :good:
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Or one simply *reads* the first post prior to answering :good:
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No need to be snarky about it.
I read *the* OP a couple days ago and didn't get a chance to respond until recently. I forgot some details of *the* troubleshooting steps and posted my response.
Replies like yours are why users end up feeling less inclined to try and help.
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I read your OP a couple days ago and didn't get a chance to respond until recently. I forgot some details of your troubleshooting steps and posted my response.
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Not my OP :good:
Helping without reading/refreshing is rather pointless
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Not my OP :good:
Helping without reading/refreshing is rather pointless
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Fixed
Regardless, I'll admit it's my mistake but still no need to be snarky about it.
I think with the alternative kernel is possible only to active the bright mode that push the nits at the max. I think is not possible to modify the contrast ecc... Like the s10+ video mode
Hello, I have different questions on this device and I would be really thankfull if someone can answer at some of them.
I come from xperia xz2 compact which overall is great but app side looks outdate. No gesture system and sony apps are the same of two years ago.
I know the Pixel is bigger but I don't see any real alternative now. So here come my questions...
It's my first OLED. Is it true that they not last as long as LCD? I hope to use this phone for 2 years at last.
Does this pixel get all the updates and features of newer pixels? All base apps get updated?
Can I disable some of the google apps like I do on other phones?
Can I remove the google search on home or the pixel launcher is not giving me choice?
Does the kernel get higher over time or like other phones it get stuck on the release one?
Is there anything weird about pixel that you don't usually get on other phones?
Yeah I know that the cpu is a downgrade. But maybe I care more to get fresh software.
Thank you so much if you spend time to give me some hint.
xperianotfun said:
Hello, I have different questions on this device and I would be really thankfull if someone can answer at some of them.
I come from xperia xz2 compact which overall is great but app side looks outdate. No gesture system and sony apps are the same of two years ago.
I know the Pixel is bigger but I don't see any real alternative now. So here come my questions...
It's my first OLED. Is it true that they not last as long as LCD? I hope to use this phone for 2 years at last.
Does this pixel get all the updates and features of newer pixels? All base apps get updated?
Can I disable some of the google apps like I do on other phones?
Can I remove the google search on home or the pixel launcher is not giving me choice?
Does the kernel get higher over time or like other phones it get stuck on the release one?
Is there anything weird about pixel that you don't usually get on other phones?
Yeah I know that the cpu is a downgrade. But maybe I care more to get fresh software.
Thank you so much if you spend time to give me some hint.
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I've been using this smartphone for 6 months now and my previous one was a Sony Xperia XZ2 , so it's basically the same situation as yours.
I always loved Sony smartphones and I keep doing it, but Pixels are on a totally different level, I would suggest the upgrade.
Anyway, to answer to your questions:
-It's my first OLED too, but I doubt it will last less than 2 years
-Yes it does, unless they are exclusive of newer models (Pixel 4). Since the launch of Pixel 4 they already ported to the 3a Astrophotography, Live Captions, Styles personalizations, etc.. But Google said that they are not going to bring for example other things like the contrast slider for photo shoots, which remains a Pixel 4 exclusive
-Yes
-The google search bar is integrated into the launcher, you should change launcher in order to get rid of it
-I didn't check the version over the updates, but at the moment is 4.9.185
-Nothing weird, IMHO is a powerful device with a great price
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I've been using this smartphone for 6 months now and my previous one was a Sony Xperia XZ2 , so it's basically the same situation as yours.
I always loved Sony smartphones and I keep doing it, but Pixels are on a totally different level, I would suggest the upgrade.
Anyway, to answer to your questions:
-It's my first OLED too, but I doubt it will last less than 2 years
-Yes it does, unless they are exclusive of newer models (Pixel 4). Since the launch of Pixel 4 they already ported to the 3a Astrophotography, Live Captions, Styles personalizations, etc.. But Google said that they are not going to bring for example other things like the contrast slider for photo shoots, which remains a Pixel 4 exclusive
-Yes
-The google search bar is integrated into the launcher, you should change launcher in order to get rid of it
-I didn't check the version over the updates, but at the moment is 4.9.185
-Nothing weird, IMHO is a powerful device with a great price
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Thank you for you time. :angel:
That kernel version is the initial android 10 kernel. So they maybe update only on new android big versions.
Would you say that the screen quality is good compared compared to xz2? Can colors be natural? I'm using professional colors on mine.
You basically come from my same device. So it's nice to see that you see the pixel as an upgrade.
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Thank you for you time. :angel:
That kernel version is the initial android 10 kernel. So they maybe update only on new android big versions.
Would you say that the screen quality is good compared compared to xz2? Can colors be natural? I'm using professional colors on mine.
You basically come from my same device. So it's nice to see that you see the pixel as an upgrade.
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Well, to be honest I consider the two displays almost on the same level, cause the xz2's LCD was way better than any other LCD I've seen around.
The 3a OLED is very good for its price, but under strong sunlight it may struggle to be visible.
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Would you say that the screen quality is good compared compared to xz2? Can colors be natural? I'm using professional colors on mine.
You basically come from my same device. So it's nice to see that you see the pixel as an upgrade.
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Regarding the display, it's really is not very bright, but custom kernels (e.g. ElementalX, I think) can provide a high brightness mode for direct sunlight.
If you want a really long in-depth review, xda's Dylan Raga has written a display review, but there's also a quick overview as Pros and Cons.
For other users' opinions, there is always the Real Life Review forum section to check out, it also has a display section.
Personally I also use the Natural profile. It seems bland at first compared to Adaptive (default setting), because it's not slightly oversaturated, but given Natural is more accurate, I'm quite happy without the additional color pop.
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Pixels are on a totally different level, I would suggest the upgrade.
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May I ask you why you find Pixel so better?
sysuicrash0511 said:
Personally I also use the Natural profile. It seems bland at first compared to Adaptive (default setting), because it's not slightly oversaturated, but given Natural is more accurate, I'm quite happy without the additional color pop.
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Thanks. That article is really intersting. But what is scaring me now about OLED is that often people get headache since the screen flickers.
Based on this review: https://www.notebookcheck.net/PWM-Ranking-Notebooks-Smartphones-and-Tablets-with-PWM.163979.0.html
Over 500 Hz should not be an issue but under 250 Hz it could. This pixel is just 270 Hz...
My phone is 2381 Hz and the phone I had before it had no flickering at all.
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Camera (and flash, which was ridiculous on the xperia) and audio are two of the main reasons.
Also battery is a huge improvement to me, cause I use to cover about 5 hours of SOT with the XZ2, now I get up to 7.
The only thing I miss is Dynamic Vibration, it was such a nice feature
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Thanks. That article is really intersting. But what is scaring me now about OLED is that often people get headache since the screen flickers.
Based on this review: https://www.notebookcheck.net/PWM-Ranking-Notebooks-Smartphones-and-Tablets-with-PWM.163979.0.html
Over 500 Hz should not be an issue but under 250 Hz it could. This pixel is just 270 Hz...
My phone is 2381 Hz and the phone I had before it had no flickering at all.
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This is news to me, so I did some research.
In case it's also news to someone else, these frequencies aren't related to display refresh rate, which flagship nowadays increase above 60hz.
From what I understand (as a layman) it's basically modulating the current or voltage to an average by switching the supply on and off within that frequency, effectively controlling brightness.
I can't say I did experience headaches or eye strain, so I might not be the best person to answer this, but I usually use my phones' display quite dim. Shouldn't the frequency decrease and make flickering more noticeable (more waves and longer intervals being off)? Maybe I'm getting it wrong though.
What also caught my attention in your linked table is how many other popular phones sit around these lower frequencies, and only one iPhone ranks slightly higher than the 3a. There are LCDs as well, maybe it's not limited to OLED. But there surely is someone more knowledgeable than me.
Just a quick review. The screen is not even comparable with the xz2c. It feels cheap. But the worst part is the view angle. If you are not in front of the screen the colors really change a lot. And you tend to see the colors changing while you use the phone. ?
You get used to it though. Is just weird if you compare them.
If the screen is all black there is some fading lighter on some side.
On really low light I notice that as example, the keyboard have a shade color instead of being unique.
Night light is less warm.
I don't get stressed by eyes or mind looking at it.
The pixel launcher doesn't allow me to even disable the "ok google" voice detection. I'm considering to swap it. But not sure what will happen with the app switcher.
(if you don't use google at all you can disable the google app and this will disable voice detection while the search bar will be still there as just a picture doing nothing)
Everything else is fine. The phone feels really great in hand and is lighter. Charging is faster.
I'm noticing how feature that are missing versus pixel 4 are not all relevant to hardward or whatever. And some of them are nonsense. Like live wallpapers. So I'm not sure how much really updated the Pixel will stay in time versus another phone except security patches.
I just got used to the screen. And now looks just fine. Except the angle view but I don't care enough. Also the touch is so responsive.
I think this phone is amzing. Is all around balanced, the experience is fluid and clean. So handy and light. Also doesn't attract dust at all. Fast charge.
I'm enjoing display ambient always on, I never thought that could be a good thing but it's really nice.
I just forgot I'm using this phone, it just doesn't distract me.
I would not say photos are so much better in general but they are just a lot better in not perfect light condition.
Checked my screen for a few minutes. There is indeed a *slight* variation in colors when viewing at an angle, which is noticeable only on white backgrounds (and I am in dark mode
Screen should last much longer than 2 years: especially in the EU where legal warranty is 2y.
jerome.jh said:
Checked my screen for a few minutes. There is indeed a *slight* variation in colors when viewing at an angle, which is noticeable only on white backgrounds (and I am in dark mode
Screen should last much longer than 2 years: especially in the EU where legal warranty is 2y.
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Yeah it's not that much. It was just the first sight. If you come from lcd for like your life, oled is really weird. But you get used to it really easy and after that it's great.
I hope it last. This phone is perfect for basic use.
I just messed with the Pixel 7 pro at Best Buy before mine arrives tomorrow and I am a little alarmed at how bad the screen looks. I normalized the colors and settings on both the Pixel and my S22 Ultra and the Samsung is brighter, more readable, less dim, if that makes sense, than the Pixel. Even at low brightness when I was messing with things the Samsung had readable text. When I lowered the brightness on the Pixel it started to look just hazy and muddy. Both devices 1440p. The Pixel's auto brightness kept failing. It stuck with what I moved the slider to even after toggling the option. A reboot seemed to fix it temporaily.
Anyone who came from an S22 phone and has a Pixel now, what are your thoughts on the screen?
In terms of specs, Samsung is using a "Dynamic AMOLED 2x" panel, according to Phonearena, and the Pixel is using "LTPO AMOLED".
A side question, can you manually set your colors for text, background, etc? Or do you HAVE TO use the material you nonsense and let it pick for you? If so, anyone know if the Pixel 6 has mods available to make it more manual without using exposed?
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I just messed with the Pixel 7 pro at Best Buy before mine arrives tomorrow and I am a little alarmed at how bad the screen looks. I normalized the colors and settings on both the Pixel and my S22 Ultra and the Samsung is brighter, more readable, less dim, if that makes sense, than the Pixel. Even at low brightness when I was messing with things the Samsung had readable text. When I lowered the brightness on the Pixel it started to look just hazy and muddy. Both devices 1440p. The Pixel's auto brightness kept failing. It stuck with what I moved the slider to even after toggling the option. A reboot seemed to fix it temporaily.
Anyone who came from an S22 phone and has a Pixel now, what are your thoughts on the screen?
In terms of specs, Samsung is using a "Dynamic AMOLED 2x" panel, according to Phonearena, and the Pixel is using "LTPO AMOLED".
A side question, can you manually set your colors for text, background, etc? Or do you HAVE TO use the material you nonsense and let it pick for you? If so, anyone know if the Pixel 6 has mods available to make it more manual without using exposed?
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I had a S22 for a week or so and the wife and I had a 21 Ultra for over a year and a half. Neither of us have had any readability issues with our Pixels. She has a 6 Pro and I have the 7 Pro now. The only thing I didn't care for is the hollow feeling and sound when tapping. The auto brightness is a bit more responsive on the Samsung but it works fine here. Other than that we are very happy with the switch. My advice is to try it out for yourself and ignore the kool-aid floating around. I was concerned at first too.
My pixel 7 pro arrived today. Screen is crap. Yellow tint to everything. Colour temperature doesnt seem right. Its as you say, looks muddy, drab. I'm coming from a oneplus 7 pro which has a fantastic screen. Its been reported but google havent acknowledged a problem yet.
Its really dissapointing... Has anyone else compared their pixel to another OLED phone?
Pixel 7 & 7 Pro display colors appear washed out on some units
A section of Google Pixel 7 and 7 Pro users are reporting that display colors appear washed out and whites have yellow tint.
piunikaweb.com
discophil said:
My pixel 7 pro arrived today. Screen is crap. Yellow tint to everything. Colour temperature doesnt seem right. Its as you say, looks muddy, drab. I'm coming from a oneplus 7 pro which has a fantastic screen. Its been reported but google havent acknowledged a problem yet.
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Any pictures of this yellow tint or are you just repeating what you read elsewhere?
Or did you enable night mode lol
Screen is superior to the S22 Ultra according to DXOMark and sits behind only the iPhone 14 Pro Max.
Google Pixel 7 Pro Display test - DXOMARK
We put the Google Pixel 7 Pro through our rigorous DXOMARK Display test suite to measure its performance across six criteria. In this test summary, we will break down how it fared in a variety of tests and several common use cases. Overview Key display specifications: 6.7 inches OLED (~89.6%...
www.dxomark.com
Certainly better than any screen on any phone I've ever owned but to each their own.
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Any pictures of this yellow tint or are you just repeating what you read elsewhere?
Or did you enable night mode lol
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LOL no, i dont have night mode enabled.
I know these things are subjective and what's technically correct might not be what people prefer. For instance a warmer colour temperature I think is what might actually be correct and accurate for a cinema/movies, but for general display use people I think usually prefer a cooler white over a warmer one. Like if i look at a sheet of A4 paper in daylight, it looks white as white, not with a yellow tint.
Its very difficult to photograph the difference. Human eyes are more sensitive the the difference in colour temp. However...
The one way i can think of to show the difference between a cooler (normal for most phones?) display such as my oneplue 7 pro is to take a photo of ONLY the oneplus's full white screen. I can then use photo as a custom white balance on my DSLR. So that the oneplus screen is what the camera will use as true white. Then we can see a direct comparrison against the Pixel 7 pro and see that its got a warmer/yellow colour temp/tint. I also adjusted the brightness of each phone to be the same by using the DSLR to measure the brightness.
See photo below. Untouched image on the top (oneplus on the left, pixel on the right). Then a saturation boosted image below that.
I think all google needs to do is add back the option to manually set a cooler colour temperature and also add an option to boost the saturation. I know this likely isnt "accurate"... but people like pretty colours lol and have probably got used to oversaturated OLED displays.
I personally love the display on this phone. No complaints about it.
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LOL no, i dont have night mode enabled.
I know these things are subjective and what's technically correct might not be what people prefer. For instance a warmer colour temperature I think is what might actually be correct and accurate for a cinema/movies, but for general display use people I think usually prefer a cooler white over a warmer one. Like if i look at a sheet of A4 paper in daylight, it looks white as white, not with a yellow tint.
Its very difficult to photograph the difference. Human eyes are more sensitive the the difference in colour temp. However...
The one way i can think of to show the difference between a cooler (normal for most phones?) display such as my oneplue 7 pro is to take a photo of ONLY the oneplus's full white screen. I can then use photo as a custom white balance on my DSLR. So that the oneplus screen is what the camera will use as true white. Then we can see a direct comparrison against the Pixel 7 pro and see that its got a warmer/yellow colour temp/tint. I also adjusted the brightness of each phone to be the same by using the DSLR to measure the brightness.
See photo below. Untouched image on the top (oneplus on the left, pixel on the right). Then a saturation boosted image below that.
I think all google needs to do is add back the option to manually set a cooler colour temperature and also add an option to boost the saturation. I know this likely isnt "accurate"... but people like pretty colours lol and have probably got used to oversaturated OLED displays.
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I have my Pixel now and this is correct. The screen is like dim and drab compared to the galaxy at the same brightness level in exactly the same place. I have everything set up the same on both. 50% brightness on the Pixel doesn't look close to normal compared to 30% on the Galaxy, or what my Oneplus 8 Pro was either.
This is pretty disappointing. Still going to give it a chance for a week before I decide but this is noticeably worse.
The kicker with this is that Google provide almost zero customization, even compared to Oneplus. I am totally ok relying on mods and root, which I will be doing, but it needs to be at least possible.
Actually! This should give us the proper answer! I just read on the below link that 'A colour temperature of 6500 K is standard for ordinary PC use and for the sRGB standard'
https://www.eizo.co.uk/knowledge/monitor-expertise/color-temperature-on-an-lcd-monitor/
I've set the colour temperature on my DSLR manually to 6500K. So anything that is 6500k should look white on the photo. Again, photo below comparrison from oneplus 7 pro and pixel 7 pro with the saturation boosted image on the bottom.
The pixel is defo yellower vs 6500k standard. The oneplus is bit too blue vs 6500k. Either way... yes. the pixel has a yellow tint vs what it probably should be (given no user settings for us to be able to change the colour temp settings.
Comparing the Pixel 7 Pro side by side with the Pixel 6 Pro and S22 Ultra. The S22 Ultra is brighter and more saturated which I think looks better. The 6 Pro and 7 Pro screen both have a duller "natural" look with the 6 Pro slightly red and the 7 Pro slightly yellow, though white looks acceptable on all three. The brightness on the S22 Ultra at 40% is similar to the 7 Pro at 60% and the 6 Pro at 80%.
We need to petition Google to bring back the Saturated mode they had on previous pixels.
Unless one has a particular need for absolute color fidelity, it all comes down to what pleases. Hence discussions like this can seem pointless. For those who care about the technical analyses, however, here's a link to DxOMark's Google Pixel 7 Pro Display test. The P7P scored 153 points for Display Color. (High at 163 points was the Sony Xperia 5 IV.)
Color measurements for the Google Pixel 7 Pro are close to those of the reference target, and thanks to its color fidelity, the new device provides realistic and pleasant color rendering. The Pixel 7 Pro adapts its color gamut to image content and is uniform in color. Unlike the Apple device, however, the Pixel 7 Pro does not adapt its white point to the lighting environment.
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Curiously, however, the DxOMark table of all smartphone display scores lists the iPhone 14 Pro Max first with 149 points, immediately followed by the P7P with 149 points. The Samsung S22 Ultra is tied for tenth, with the iPhone 13, at 136 points. For some reason, DxOMark didn't score the OnePlus 7 Pro's display. DxOMark did rank its selfie camera (22nd at 113 points vs. 145 for the iPhone 14 Pro, 142 for the P7P, and 133 for the S22 Ultra).
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Unless one has a particular need for absolute color fidelity, it all comes down to what pleases. Hence discussions like this can seem pointless. For those who care about the technical analyses, however, here's a link to DxOMark's Google Pixel 7 Pro Display test. The P7P scored 153 points for Display Color. (High at 163 points was the Sony Xperia 5 IV.)
Curiously, however, the DxOMark table of all smartphone display scores lists the iPhone 14 Pro Max first with 149 points, immediately followed by the P7P with 149 points. The Samsung S22 Ultra is tied for tenth, with the iPhone 13, at 136 points. For some reason, DxOMark didn't score the OnePlus 7 Pro's display. DxOMark did rank its selfie camera (22nd at 113 points vs. 145 for the iPhone 14 Pro, 142 for the P7P, and 133 for the S22 Ultra).
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All I want is a setting to manually adjust the colour temperature.
Its a stupidly simple thing to implement and I think it might already be there, just disabled from us being able to change it?
If you go to settings, make sure developer options is enabled. Then search settings for 'Color temperature' You can see theres an option for 'cool colour temperature' that shows up in the search results. But if you click it, it takes you nowhere. So its there in the dev options, its just hidden so we cant actually get to it and enable it.
Also on the on the DxOMark tests, this bit is interesting >
discophil said:
All I want is a setting to manually adjust the colour temperature.
Its a stupidly simple thing to implement and I think it might already be there, just disabled from us being able to change it?
If you go to settings, make sure developer options is enabled. Then search settings for 'Color temperature' You can see theres an option for 'cool colour temperature' that shows up in the search results. But if you click it, it takes you nowhere. So its there in the dev options, its just hidden so we cant actually get to it and enable it.
Also on the on the DxOMark tests, this bit is interesting >
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The quotation in my post includes the sentence you underlined.
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The quotation in my post includes the sentence you underlined.
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lol. So it does! When I click reply to your post , this is what I see. I was reading this as I was replying to you and that bit in the middle is missing on the reply screen. So I didnt see it.
discophil said:
All I want is a setting to manually adjust the colour temperature.
Its a stupidly simple thing to implement and I think it might already be there, just disabled from us being able to change it?
If you go to settings, make sure developer options is enabled. Then search settings for 'Color temperature' You can see theres an option for 'cool colour temperature' that shows up in the search results. But if you click it, it takes you nowhere. So its there in the dev options, its just hidden so we cant actually get to it and enable it.
Also on the on the DxOMark tests, this bit is interesting >
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I bet you someone can figure out how to access that color temp menu. Let's see if someone comes across this and figures that out. Do dialer codes work on this phone? On the s22 they don't.
Beefheart said:
No, I don't work for Google.
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Will do thanks.
No worries.
discophil said:
lol. So it does! When I click reply to your post , this is what I see. I was reading this as I was replying to you and that bit in the middle is missing on the reply screen. So I didnt see it.
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EtherealRemnant said:
I personally love the display on this phone. No complaints about it.
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How much has Google paid you?
Beefheart said:
How much has Google paid you?
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Shoot I wish they would! My husband wants a new computer lol
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Shoot I wish they would! My husband wants a new computer lol
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He's making fun of me, very classy.