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[Q] Are bluetooth 2.0 headphones being effected by the 3.0 status of the Sensation?

I have a set of Rockfish stereo headphones. they have been clear in calls and listening to music. Connected them to the sensation and now everybody that I talks to says that they hear an echo on their end when we are talking. This did not happen with my 2.0 version on the hd2. Is anybody else having a problem with migrating their previous 2.0 headphones to the sensations 3.0 bluetooth format?
If not, does anyone know how I can remedy this (if there is one)? Thanks in advance.

My Sony DRBT100CX's are 2.1 and work great.

steve austin said:
I have a set of Rockfish stereo headphones. they have been clear in calls and listening to music. Connected them to the sensation and now everybody that I talks to says that they hear an echo on their end when we are talking. This did not happen with my 2.0 version on the hd2. Is anybody else having a problem with migrating their previous 2.0 headphones to the sensations 3.0 bluetooth format?
If not, does anyone know how I can remedy this (if there is one)? Thanks in advance.
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Bluetooth version has nothing to do with Sense version.... different animals altogether.

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NRGZ28 said:
Bluetooth version has nothing to do with Sense version.... different animals altogether.
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well i can't figure out why everybody on the other end is now getting an echo when i speak. this never happened with the hd2.

NRGZ28 said:
Bluetooth version has nothing to do with Sense version.... different animals altogether.
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I think he's saying Bluetooth 3.0 not Sense 3.0........
He is asking if anyone coming from Bluetooth 2.0 is having problems with their headsets on bluetooth 3.0

Ye. I have the same issue. The Phone will sync to bluetooth in my car but everyone states they get echo feedback. I have posted email to HTC, see what they come up with.

nice catch.
KillaHurtz said:
I think he's saying Bluetooth 3.0 not Sense 3.0........
He is asking if anyone coming from Bluetooth 2.0 is having problems with their headsets on bluetooth 3.0
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Thank you for pointing that out to me. I should have caught that he was unclear about my point.
yes, BLUETOOTH 3.0 & 2.0 compatibility. Not Sense 3.0

rickscheibe said:
Ye. I have the same issue. The Phone will sync to bluetooth in my car but everyone states they get echo feedback. I have posted email to HTC, see what they come up with.
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i thought it was just me. i will call tomorrow and see how much of the run around they give me.

steve austin said:
i thought it was just me. i will call tomorrow and see how much of the run around they give me.
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Hi,
I have a similar problem.i have a Sennheiser bluetooth earpiece. It works well on my Hd2, but on some Sense 3.0 ROMS , it would sound bubbly almost underwater.I have found the same thing with the Sensation.
So maybe it does have something to do with Sense 3.0.

I have the same problem. When using my bluetooth speakerphone in the car, the other caller complains of echos and bad background noise. I have no problems when I use it with my Vibrant. This sucks.

I have the same issue with my carkit. Lots of complaints from receivers:
Bluetooth carkit quality

I've been having issues with BT as well. Echos as you describe on calls but also i can only connect to media upon initial pair. I have jambox, jawbone and a stereo headset that all are A2DP but only connect to phone audio when i connect to them. They will do media the when first paired. I have to keep unpairing and pairing to get media. Was like that on all 3 sensations i've had. TMO US needs an update in a bad bad way.... This is the buggiest phone i've ever had

nugzo said:
I've been having issues with BT as well. Echos as you describe on calls but also i can only connect to media upon initial pair. I have jambox, jawbone and a stereo headset that all are A2DP but only connect to phone audio when i connect to them. They will do media the when first paired. I have to keep unpairing and pairing to get media. Was like that on all 3 sensations i've had. TMO US needs an update in a bad bad way.... This is the buggiest phone i've ever had
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Totally agree. May take mine back.

Sony mw600 headphones, Kenwood DDX-812 and my pc all pair fine for me.
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Same issue. Jabra BT2015 (Bluetooth version 2.0) was working fine with my HD2, but with the Sensation, callers complain of excessive background noises.
Thaught it was my phone, but tried yesterday with an another Sensation in the shop & was the same. Too high noise. So I thaught it must be the headset.

I have used my IOGEAR Solar Bluetooth Car Kit with my MyTouch 3G and with my Vibrant and never had complaints from callers. My fiance won't even talk to me when I use it with my Sensation. She complains about an echoing noise and horribly loud background noises.

Bluetooth issue - no audio on carkit
My bluetooth pairs with my car kit, can answer and hangup with car kit, but no audio goes through car kit.
It did work when i first got my sensation.
I got root (temp) and deleted some "bloatware" (maybe something i shouldn't have), then I upgraded to latest software. Now i have above problem.
anyone know is upgrade may have caused problem - or do i need to replace driver???? if so anyone got the file?

Bluetooth issue - no audio on carkit
My bluetooth pairs with my car kit, can answer and hangup with car kit, but no audio goes through car kit.
It did work when i first got my sensation.
I got root (temp) and deleted some "bloatware" (maybe something i shouldn't have), then I upgraded to latest software. Now i have above problem.
anyone know is upgrade may have caused problem - or do i need to replace driver???? if so anyone got the file?

bumping this for the people who might have missed this thread

I have the Jawbone Icon and while I don't have an echo incoming sounds are hallow and tinny with a bit of crackle. Sounds like crap. Although the people I speak to say I sound great. On my SGS2 people say I sound great however they say I don't sound as good.

Bluetooth problems

I've been having bluetooth problems with this phone since day 1 & I'm wondering if it's just my phone or if anyone else is having the same experience. No matter what rom or headset I use, I get a craptastic connection. I don't have any problems pairing devices, but I can't get 10 feet away from the phone without it disconnecting and I can't even turn my head without the audio cutting out. It also randomly disconnects for no reason & sometimes won't reconnect until I reboot. This has happened with every rom I've tried & every headset too. I've bought & returned multiple headsets thinking it was just my Blueant, but it happens with every one.
Could I have a faulty unit or does the bluetooth on this phone really suck this bad? I listen to podcasts & music all day long at work so I need to have a decent connection. Opinions needed please.

I think it may be a bad phone.
I have and used the following bluetooth devices:
Plantronics 590A
Jawbone Icon and Era
BlueAnt S4 which I use in the car. And auto connects before I sit down to drive when I have it on.
Sony Ericsson MW600
And Jabra Pro 9470 (office phone setup that connects to my phone via bt)
All connects without a problem. Have you done a titanium backup and perform a factory reset? And after the reset use titanium backup to restore app and data only and leave the system settings alone. You can restore the wifi stuff if you like. From there that's like a fresh install. Hope that works for you.

Yeah I've done many, many wipes & fresh installs & nothing helps. I don't have any problems connecting, I just have problems STAYING connected & listening to audio. It cuts out constantly without me even touching the phone. I've never had such shoddy bluetooth on any other device.
*sigh* Looks like I may be doing an exchange...

kabuk1 said:
Yeah I've done many, many wipes & fresh installs & nothing helps. I don't have any problems connecting, I just have problems STAYING connected & listening to audio. It cuts out constantly without me even touching the phone. I've never had such shoddy bluetooth on any other device.
*sigh* Looks like I may be doing an exchange...
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Well before leaving the store...if you are going to a brick and mortar to do the exchange, bring the bt headset with you and try it out there and try to replicate the problem with a new phone.
I do not have range problems but I don't usually have my phone more than 5 ft way from me when talking on it via bt.

I have a replacement on the way for bluetooth problems,people complained of a horrid background noise and the range was maybe 8 feet before major static would kick in

Macklessdaddy said:
I have a replacement on the way for bluetooth problems,people complained of a horrid background noise and the range was maybe 8 feet before major static would kick in
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My BT sounds like crap! People say it sounds like I'm in a wind tunnel or they can't hear me that well, when they speak to me it cuts in and out.
This is when I connect to my Parrot BT in my truck. I know its not the Parrot system because my HD2 works fine with it.

rosedog said:
My BT sounds like crap! People say it sounds like I'm in a wind tunnel or they can't hear me that well, when they speak to me it cuts in and out.
This is when I connect to my Parrot BT in my truck. I know its not the Parrot system because my HD2 works fine with it.
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I have a Dual car stereo & now that I think about it, everyone says they can't hear me even though I installed the mic on the side column & it's no more than a foot from my face at any time. Aargh this is so annoying. Freaking $600 phone & my damn $25 RAZR from Big Lots has better bluetooth.
If I bring it to the store, would they exchange it for me? I ordered it directly from T-Mobile, I didn't get it in a store.

kabuk1 said:
I have a Dual car stereo & now that I think about it, everyone says they can't hear me even though I installed the mic on the side column & it's no more than a foot from my face at any time. Aargh this is so annoying. Freaking $600 phone & my damn $25 RAZR from Big Lots has better bluetooth.
If I bring it to the store, would they exchange it for me? I ordered it directly from T-Mobile, I didn't get it in a store.
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No you will have to call T-Mobile and do a warranty exchange. I have no problems with BT on my phone at all.

http://androidforums.com/htc-sensation-4g/375199-white-noise-bluetooth-htc-sensation-4g.html
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/133/p/12494/52795.aspx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184936
a few threads about bluetooth problems

So whats the deal? Has anyone been able to fix the BT problems with this phone yet?
Can we flash a different BT.apk file or something?
Somebody by now should have some answers I would think.
My parrot system in my truck suck ass with this phone. Always cutting in and out.
Streaming audio is fine its the talking to people I'm have problems with.

rosedog said:
So whats the deal? Has anyone been able to fix the BT problems with this phone yet?
Can we flash a different BT.apk file or something?
Somebody by now should have some answers I would think.
My parrot system in my truck suck ass with this phone. Always cutting in and out.
Streaming audio is fine its the talking to people I'm have problems with.
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I use this with my blueant s4 without an issue and experience no cutting in and out. However, I have been running MIUI and now running sense-o-maniac 3.5 and I have no issues.

kpjimmy said:
I use this with my blueant s4 without an issue and experience no cutting in and out. However, I have been running MIUI and now running sense-o-maniac 3.5 and I have no issues.
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You've been running what and what?
MIUI / Sense-o-maniac 3.5?
I'm running the latest ARHD w/sense 3.5

horrid bluetooth sound quality
it seems a lot of people have been having issues with the bluetooth sound quality. i have mine paired with a motorola HF850 car kit, which has bluetooth v1.1, or something like that. i wonder if the problem is with backward compatibility, as people seem not to have as many issues with newer devices. would flashing a different radio potentiall help this problem? is it possible to downgrade the bluetooth version with a custom ROM? any other thoughts on ways to address this issue?

Bluetooth Audio Clicks

Hello,
Please help who know how to solve this problem...
I have A2DP to AUX adapter in my car and before N5 I had S3 and it worked fine and I did try MackBook Air works fine too
but my new Nexus 5 make some bad clicks with audio streaming and even when no audio - clicks still clicking...
I did try my friends N5 and it make clicks also...
so looks like problem in N5s....
anyone have/had this problem? any way to solve it?
Thanks!

Try another car.

PhilipTD said:
Try another car.
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anything about problem? car is the best! and other phones works fine - just N5s

EvgeniX said:
anything about problem? car is the best! and other phones works fine - just N5s
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I'm not entirely sure, but, I think that the next logical troubleshooting step is to test your phone on another car's audio system in order to eliminate the possibility that the issue is restricted to your phone's connection to your car.

PhilipTD said:
I'm not entirely sure, but, I think that the next logical troubleshooting step is to test your phone on another car's audio system in order to eliminate the possibility that the issue is restricted to your phone's connection to your car.
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My bluetooth not in car it just dongle... and I have 2 of them and they works fine with Mac and PC other phones not kitkat but not with my 2 N5s. ..
But also I find out clicks only when I do something on the phone if I leave audio and leave phone after 5-10 min all clicks stops... now its even more strange...
So now it looks like or N5s or kitkat...
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Poor Bluetooth audio quality

I just got the tmobile variant s6 and immediately went to test the Bluetooth audio stream on my 2015 gs350. I noticed a crackle in the audio. It is minimal but quite noticeable at high volume. This is disappointing as my Sony Z3 had excellent BT audio quality on my gs. Anyone else notice this?

neles86 said:
I just got the tmobile variant s6 and immediately went to test the Bluetooth audio stream on my 2015 gs350. I noticed a crackle in the audio. It is minimal but quite noticeable at high volume. This is disappointing as my Sony Z3 had excellent BT audio quality on my gs. Anyone else notice this?
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I do not seem to have that issue over my car's bluetooth. T-mobile also.

I'm getting good audio quality via my Sony SBH80 aptx BT headset. Perhaps you can play on the Sound Alive equalizer.

Just wanted to let you know that I am having this same problem. When streaming music in high quality from Google Play, the treble is all crackly and distorted. It's really disappointing. I'm going to do some testing today against my old m8 and using non-streaming music. But never had this issue before.

It's probably the fact you are streaming audio. Try some high quality downloaded music, like from Spotify. I've no issues at all.

I am also having the same issue with the Verizon version of the S6. It sounds terrible over my car Bluetooth when streaming but sounds good through my bluetooth Bose headphones. I didn't have any trouble with my car Bluetooth with my iPhone 6. I really hope Samsung gets this sorted out with a software update.

I too am having issues with streaming bluetooth. I think that my issue with it is amplified, because I normally listen to music only on my Magnavox Turntable, and the sound from that console is unbeatable by any electronic streaming or mini-speaker. My son bought me a bluetooth speaker for my birthday last year, which was very nice of him, but the sound just does not compare to the 1970's technology.
Maybe I'm just old.

Do you happen to have any bluetooth le devices, like a fitbit, attached at the same time? I tried disconnecting my garmin vivosmart and there's a dramatic improvement.

evanl81 said:
Just wanted to let you know that I am having this same problem. When streaming music in high quality from Google Play, the treble is all crackly and distorted. It's really disappointing. I'm going to do some testing today against my old m8 and using non-streaming music. But never had this issue before.
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Same here. Lowering the treble help a tiny bit but what's music without treble . I've tried disconnecting my pebble watch but no dice. I really don't want to go back to aux.

In my car, before I disconnected the Garmin, I found that adjusting the toggles in Play Music - edging the first dial two toward Treble and the other dial three toward Instrument helped a bit.

I noticed the crackling on treble as well. As evanl81 suggested, I disconnected my Moto 360 (switched it to airplane mode), toggled the phone's bluetooth to have a fresh connection to the car, and the crackling is gone by at least 90%!
Very disappointing. Didn't have this problem with my Nexus 5. I'd very much prefer to not have to disconnect my watch every time I get in the car

palmboy5 said:
I noticed the crackling on treble as well. As evanl81 suggested, I disconnected my Moto 360 (switched it to airplane mode), toggled the phone's bluetooth to have a fresh connection to the car, and the crackling is gone by at least 90%!
Very disappointing. Didn't have this problem with my Nexus 5. I'd very much prefer to not have to disconnect my watch every time I get in the car
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That would be a problem. I'm starting to think that we are wirelessly connected to too many things!!

So it looks like my pebble watch was the problem. Seems i can't have other BT devices connected while connected to my car. Once I put my pebble in airplane mode, then off/on the BT radio and all is good! Sucks but at least it's a workaround.

I'm trying to use AutoInput and Tasker to automate the disconnection and reconnection of my watch when connected to the car bluetooth right now, still working out the kinks though. :\ Endless little things and inconsistent behavior.
It would be fantastic if this gets fixed by Samsung at some point!

stureiney said:
That would be a problem. I'm starting to think that we are wirelessly connected to too many things!!
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No, I have a Nexus 4 with 5.0 and now with 5.1 and its connect to LG g watch, a parrot ck3100 and auki bluetooth reciber and the quality is perfect. With S6 I only connected to my LG g watch and auki and the audio quiality is a ****.

i don't know about bad audio quality for bt but i get audio cut outs and choppiness when using my jaybird bluebuds. it gets really annoying. i noticed it happens in wide open spaces too like when i'm outside but not near any walls or enclosed areas. if i'm indoors, it works perfectly fine. i remember reading about the way bt works and the signal needs to bounce off other surfaces or something like that in order to work properly. i had this same issue way back in my OG Droid days and there was a build.prop edit to boost the signal by giving bt higher priority.
anyone else have this problem? i'm on VZW variant btw.
other than this issue, bt audio sounds perfect. i also use Viper to give the audio volume a major boost.

I'm having the same issue on my car audio.
It was perfect with the Nexus 5, very disappointed to have this with the S6.

I just got my sg6 have a samsung gear live and bluebuds x I get crackling sounding high end, very annoying, coming from an HTC one m7 with the same setup and had zero problems, really hope they are able to fix this!
OK so I enabled the tube amp setting and nothing else, it seems to have made a huge difference. I can now listen to music without cringing. Hope this helps.

Ok, I made a few findings about the issue. I also have a moto 360 connected to the S6 and the crackling is so high that is imposible to hear music with a minimum of quality.So i tried with the watch off or in airplane mode and the crackling is still there but sometimes it dissapears after connect and disconnect the bt devices but not always. Now, the elephant in the room:
I have a Samsung Hs3000 bt stereo headset and the music quality is superb even with te moto 360 connected. The magic is that this particular device has aptx codec included. So if you have an aptx bt device the quality its going to be there. For no aptx devices i'm trying an experiment: i remember from the nexus 7 2013 and other android phones that bluetooth audio quality was bad since kitkat and the problem was bluetooth compression was too high. There are two files that control this behaviour: audio.a2dp.default.so and bluetooth.default.so. If we could edit this two files maybe we could fix this. If someone can help me and tell me what program can i use to edit this files on my computer i'll try to fix it myself.
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Just wanted to follow up on this thread - I recently switched to the Note 5 (which I love) and also got a Huawei Watch. When the watch is connected to the phone and the phone is connected to bluetooth, the sound quality is really horrendous. So I'm guessing it's something with the BT smart implementation in Samsung phones or something? It's really annoying. I too tried to work out some stuff with AutoInput, but it's a huge pain. The only real workarounds are to put the watch in Airplane Mode or just disconnect through the Android Wear app. And unfortunately there are no shortcuts through AutoWear. Oh well.

Bluetooth Audio issues

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am having the oddest issue with my phone. The u11 is 99% amazing, to me. I really like everything about it......
-except-
When paired to my 2013 Dodge Dart (don't ask. big mistake) the music audio plays slow. I don't mean the speed of reaction as far as switching tracks or how long it takes to play the next song... I mean it sounds like the audio is pitched down by about 20%.
Things I know/Have Tried from a troubleshooting perspective..
The phone bluetooth audio works fine.
The audio, when connected to the aux jack, works fine.
The audio, when connected to OTHER bluetooth devices such as my HK Aura plays fine.
My phone and car are updated to the latest firmware.
I realize that the conclusion is going to be "it's your car dude".... but since it's not so easy to get rid of the car... and I don't really want to swap this phone out for a Galaxy......
Is anyone else experiencing this? Has anyone had this and sourced a solution?
Thanks.

I've used my U11 in my 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan (don't ask. big family) and it performed flawlessly.
I imagine they are on similar systems, mine is just the standard UConnect head unit. This happens will all media streaming?

riggsandroid said:
I've used my U11 in my 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan (don't ask. big family) and it performed flawlessly.
I imagine they are on similar systems, mine is just the standard UConnect head unit. This happens will all media streaming?
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Yes standard head unit. strictly an LED display with knobs.
Yes. It's across the board.
Google Play
Pandora
Tidal
Netflix (it's trippy to watch the video move at regular speed while the vocals are not only behind, but pitched down!)
I've also tried varying bit rates on my personal MP3s.
I have a hunch that this has to do with the audio in the phone being 24bit and the radio converting to 16 bit, but I have nothing to base that on...

Basic suggestion - unpair and re-pair to see if that resets something.

I've connected my u11 to two different cars so far (an Infiniti and a Land Rover), and haven't had that issue.
I've also connected to a plethora of BT speakers, with no issue....

It is probably your car. To be honest, I think it's a UConnect issue that doesn't play nice with HTC phones. My HTC 10 had basically same issue I'm having now where music sounds like garbage, distorted. The U11 is even worse! I believe my head unit is the RHB model in a 2011 Ram. But 2 phones now with same issues, can't be coincidence.
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Basic suggestion - unpair and re-pair to see if that resets something.
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The classic, of course.
I did pair and unpair a few times even going so far as to to completely reset the car radio from any pairings.
no luck, but thank you for the suggestion.

mbaseball3 said:
It is probably your car. To be honest, I think it's a UConnect issue that doesn't play nice with HTC phones. My HTC 10 had basically same issue I'm having now where music sounds like garbage, distorted. The U11 is even worse! I believe my head unit is the RHB model in a 2011 Ram. But 2 phones now with same issues, can't be coincidence.
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yeah, based on everything else I've done. It is most likely the car. Unfortunately I use that feature way too much to over look it...
Thanks for the input.

I have yet to test my wife's Samsung s8 to see if the issue carries. Not a good test though since the s8 has Bluetooth 5.0 but it's all I've got ha!
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I have a similar issue, my U11 stutters and warbles and is generally unlistenable when using my tunelink (for android). However, when playing music through my Bluetooth headphones it plays perfectly, when playing through my Bluetooth speaker it plays perfectly and finally when playing through my Bluetooth headset it plays perfectly. Tried on my sisters car stereo and it plays perfectly. Its just the tunelink that has a problem. Tried a S8 and it plays perfectly through the tunelink, as does my 10 and my M8.
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Have bought another adapter to test and this also connects and plays perfectly with my U11. I guess it's just a compatibility thing with the tunelink.

Hey I have the same problem in my U11 and 2012 Dodge Challenger (ask, I love this Car!!)
The only solution I have found is if a restart the app on the phone then the playback is good. but I do wish i could just connect it and it would the playback would run fine like my old HTC M9.

Just to add to the thread. My u11 is slow to connect to my 2014 pilot and 2012 infiniti. Why it does connect it always disconnects. I'm on us unlocked 1.16 firmware.
I've read there is issues with Android 7.1.1 and 7.1.2 is better but searching the internet it does not seem the issue is too wide spread.
Edit. Testing with Wi-Fi on, not connected. So far so good

I have similar issues. I have a Subaru Outback (2015) and while my previous phone (Nexus 5) and my kids' iPhones all sound fine, the U11 sounds terrible when connected via BT. It is very grainy, like a sample rate mismatch. Same result in all audio apps. The U11 sounds find when connected to my Bose BT headphones. It's just some weird incompatibility with the car. Extremely frustrating. Its 2017 people!!