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[Q] Huge battery drain from keep awake

Hey,
After coming home from school today, I noticed that my battery went from 95% to 50% with hardly any use. The battery kept training steadily and now its already to 15%. The signal is pretty ****ty at my school and I usually turn off wifi. I've never seen it drop this far, and according to my battery use android os has used 70%(more or less). Keep awake has been on for 9 hours out of 13. I haven't noticed any out of the ordinary apps or anything. I'll attach a few screens and would appreciate some help. (i9020a, over a year old if that helps any)
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maxidodies said:
Hey,
After coming home from school today, I noticed that my battery went from 95% to 50% with hardly any use. The battery kept training steadily and now its already to 15%. The signal is pretty ****ty at my school and I usually turn off wifi. I've never seen it drop this far, and according to my battery use android os has used 70%(more or less). Keep awake has been on for 9 hours out of 13. I haven't noticed any out of the ordinary apps or anything. I'll attach a few screens and would appreciate some help. (i9020a, over a year old if that helps any)
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what rom are you using ??? i'm having almost the same problem in this day with all the jelly bean rom ... now i'm testing on ice cream slim4.2 and i colud have fixed the problem but i still want to test more .... i used it for about 10 hour with almost 4.5 hour screen on viewing powerpoint files with no sim but almost always in wi fi and i downloaded 3 torrent files ... and it still has 31 % left ... i think it is very good ... i'm using conservative 1000-200 but i don't think it's governor related ... it just didn't go in deep sleep, don't know why ... i also switched to the previos radio (i'm on a 9023)
try to clean all your process by the built in app... sync off... make an all night charge and install cpu spy to see what frequencies is use and if it use deep sleep ... if it doesn't there is your problem ( still don't know how to solve it just try and try, i restored backup , do factory reset wipe and nothing did work... now a miracle ... i'll post my results im my thread when i'll finish all my test in some days ... )

kriout said:
what rom are you using ??? i'm having almost the same problem in this day with all the jelly bean rom ... now i'm testing on ice cream slim4.2 and i colud have fixed the problem but i still want to test more .... i used it for about 10 hour with almost 4.5 hour screen on viewing powerpoint files with no sim but almost always in wi fi and i downloaded 3 torrent files ... and it still has 31 % left ... i think it is very good ... i'm using conservative 1000-200 but i don't think it's governor related ... it just didn't go in deep sleep, don't know why ... i also switched to the previos radio (i'm on a 9023)
try to clean all your process by the built in app... sync off... make an all night charge and install cpu spy to see what frequencies is use and if it use deep sleep ... if it doesn't there is your problem ( still don't know how to solve it just try and try, i restored backup , do factory reset wipe and nothing did work... now a miracle ... i'll post my results im my thread when i'll finish all my test in some days ... )
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Some people reported that copying everything from your SD card to a computer then formatting your SD and copying back everything seemed to fix it. Format the SD from your computer though, not from the phone. And run an error check just in case.

we should use Fat32 right ??

kriout said:
we should use Fat32 right ??
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Absolutely.

maxidodies said:
Hey,
After coming home from school today, I noticed that my battery went from 95% to 50% with hardly any use. The battery kept training steadily and now its already to 15%. The signal is pretty ****ty at my school and I usually turn off wifi. I've never seen it drop this far, and according to my battery use android os has used 70%(more or less). Keep awake has been on for 9 hours out of 13. I haven't noticed any out of the ordinary apps or anything. I'll attach a few screens and would appreciate some help. (i9020a, over a year old if that helps any)
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In almost many cases, the battery drains due to ROM. The framework with one of the xml file values is found to be mostly the reason if ROM is the culprit for such drain...Some devs keep these values on higher side in Framework to reduce the response time..
You should change the ROM to something like ParanoidAndroid 2.0, which has been proved to be a battery saver. I have also experienced that this ROM really saves battery after ICS 4.0.4 Stock...
You can follow other things like;
1) Change the Settings -> Developer options -> Background process limit to At most 4 processes.
2) Keep location services off since these services take off a lot of processor/battery. You can switch them ON whenever required.
3) Reduce the minimum CPU Frequency to 100 MHz (Be Cautious! - This is development thing)
4) Use minimum screens on Home and also minimize the number of widgets.
5) Keep NFC Off and Set the Network mode to Manual.
6) De-activate keyboard vibration in Language & Input settings.
The above things will make a big difference to the time of usage without charging....

darkmentor25 said:
In almost many cases, the battery drains due to ROM. The framework with one of the xml file values is found to be mostly the reason if ROM is the culprit for such drain...Some devs keep these values on higher side in Framework to reduce the response time..
You should change the ROM to something like ParanoidAndroid 2.0, which has been proved to be a battery saver. I have also experienced that this ROM really saves battery after ICS 4.0.4 Stock...
You can follow other things like;
1) Change the Settings -> Developer options -> Background process limit to At most 4 processes.
2) Keep location services off since these services take off a lot of processor/battery. You can switch them ON whenever required.
3) Reduce the minimum CPU Frequency to 100 MHz (Be Cautious! - This is development thing)
4) Use minimum screens on Home and also minimize the number of widgets.
5) Keep NFC Off and Set the Network mode to Manual.
6) De-activate keyboard vibration in Language & Input settings.
The above things will make a big difference to the time of usage without charging....
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i'll try paranoid in a future ...
today for the first part of the day i had my usually drain issues ... i tried a bit, rebooted etc but nothing seem to work ... it just didn't want to go in deep sleep mode and the android os was always working, i think it could be app related, i closed more then once all the app running and cached, then i uninstalled opera mini and deleted airdroid data and after that it apparently started to work again without battery drain and i came home with 10 per cent left and 5 hour screen on ... my next step is to format the sd ... i don't think those two app could make this bug ...
anyone has some suggestion to make deep sleep work ???

Poor battery life - help needed

Hello,
I sold my Note 2 last week and got a Nexus 5. I paid the equivalent of $500 here in my country for the phone because I love the Nexus experience and developer support.
However, the battery life on my phone has been nothing but outright poor. I haven't really kept it on stock because I flashed CM11 as soon as I got it but I tried the CM kernel and with poor battery, switched to franco. However, it has all been downhill for me. Is stock any better?
I'm posting screenshots of the amount of drain I'm getting. Heck, I didn't even use my phone today of the fear of losing battery and it's still the same.
Google Play Services was eating a lot of battery but after a restart, it just stopped and I haven't had it since last night.
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Bump! I'm having the same issue. I went to bed last night and left the phone at 90% and I turned off WiFi and LTE and 3G. Made sure all apps were closed. And woke up 6 hours later and my battery was at 75% please help us guys.
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WiFi is on! There is a stupid option in by google....it keeps scanning for WiFi even after your WiFi is turned off....Kinda of a bummer really...Also turn off the Hotword recognition("Ok google" crap).
hit thanks if helped

Over here on the htc one verizon we were having similar problems flashing 4.4 to 4.3 to gpe to sense that it just screwed the battery and would drain awful just like your pic
The fix came to flashing a stock ruu image which helped greatly, then just flashed back our rom of choice
But i dont know really, just giving some insight for you nexus owners!
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After I rooted my phone and installed all the root-specific tools (still on stock rom) my idle battery drain is under 1% per hour, with wifi permanently on (even during sleep).
What I've found is very effective is, make sure you force close certain apps that cause idle-drain.
Certain apps also continue giving large idle-drain even after FCing them, and a hard reboot is the only way to solve this.
Youtube is the only major culprit though, and usually shows up as "phone idle" or one of the other OS-specific ones.

@DryEagle
Are you running a custom kernel or stock? Any other root tools that you may utilize as you speak of them?

whisky_ said:
@DryEagle
Are you running a custom kernel or stock? Any other root tools that you may utilize as you speak of them?
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i have:
stock rom (still on 4.4)
stock kernel
used cf-auto-root
xposed framework, with: bootmanager, gravitybox, crt effect disabler, batterystats permission (the last 2-3 shouldn't affect anything)
titanium backup, here's all the stock stuff i've freeze'd away:
calculator, keyboard, email, cloud print, exchange, face unlock, gmail, non-english inputs (hindi, japanese, korean etc), google movies, google music, google newsstand, google +, hp print service, keep, stock launcher, stock news+weather, picasa, talkback, tags, google wallet
nova launcher
hd widgets
sd maid (though i only use it like once a week to clear out crap)
adaway
i think that's everything really

to me it appears your phone was not going into deep sleep in the first post. Did you go into all of the sub menus and look for "device keep awake" time? I only ask because I keep my wifi on most of the time and with average use I can manage 2 days and 5-6 hours of screen on time. Catacylsm ROM and Franco kernel. 4.4.1, I've been seeing too many reports of issues when going to 4.2.2 so I've held off.

No issues here with stock CM as i lost 1% after a full charge and unplugged at 12am. Woke up this morning at 7am and still had 99%. Had LTE on (not connected), WIFI and bluetooth and NFC off. Ok Google is not running when the screen is off so that shouldn't matter. I don't have a ton of widgets and crap but Sunbeam Live Wallpaper is my normal. This is the norm for me on stock as well.
So no idea what's going on with your device but i don't have those issues with battery life.

whisky_ said:
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However, the battery life on my phone has been nothing but outright poor. I haven't really kept it on stock because I flashed CM11 as soon as I got it but I tried the CM kernel and with poor battery, switched to franco. However, it has all been downhill for me. Is stock any better?
[...]
Google Play Services was eating a lot of battery but after a restart, it just stopped and I haven't had it since last night.
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Could it have happened, that you got the buggy franco r22? There was an issue with deep sleep states, which ate a lot of battery. Update to r23 and everything should be fine for you again. If this does not fix your problem, you could try to post some Better Battery Stats - Screenshots.

@DerItaliener
It may have been because of franco R22. But the drain was insane.
@DryEagle
Thank you very much.
I am happy to report that I flashed the Google factory 4.4.2 image and flashed TWRP and rooted my phone. Installed Whatsapp & Viber and charged it to 98%. I am happy to report that I woke up to 95% of battery in the morning so a total 3% lost with WiFi turned on over night.
I'm a happy man. However, I do miss the CM specific features. Also, stock seems to be much more fluid and faster. Maybe because of being odexed?

whisky_ said:
@DerItaliener
It may have been because of franco R22. But the drain was insane.
@DryEagle
Thank you very much.
I am happy to report that I flashed the Google factory 4.4.2 image and flashed TWRP and rooted my phone. Installed Whatsapp & Viber and charged it to 98%. I am happy to report that I woke up to 95% of battery in the morning so a total 3% lost with WiFi turned on over night.
I'm a happy man. However, I do miss the CM specific features. Also, stock seems to be much more fluid and faster. Maybe because of being odexed?
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Have you got xposed and gravitybox and the other stuff going? That adds in a whole heap of features to stock that are otherwise only available with a custom rom. Very highly recommend.

Draning about 1% every two minutes, with regular use browsing and listening to music would that be a drain issue?
Also the screen have consumed 31% in one hour! I think that an issue #?

menaaboud said:
Draning about 1% every two minutes, with regular use browsing and listening to music would that be a drain issue?
Also the screen have consumed 31% in one hour! I think that an issue #?
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8 month necro, nice.
See the sticky thread for battery help.

[Q] New owner of my OPO and experiencing battery issues :(

Hi all, I've just purchased a OPO 64GB and have been using it for 2 days. So far, I'm not liking it.
I've tested the official 12S ROM and while everything was fine, the battery drain is just unbearable. I understand the issue is main due to the GPS v7.3.29 systemupdate wakelock, but CM already has the fix applied and I've even applied this as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...mod-google-play-services-update-wake-t3078082
I've also tried reverting GPS to an older version but it didn't help. The battery drains regardless of GPS and I don't even have any of my apps installed other than BetterBatteryStats! Why don't I have apps installed? My habbit is to test out the raw stats of any brand new phone I purchase so I have some sort of benchmark to compare against.
So I thought, OK maybe CM 12s has issues, I'll try another ROM. I've tried Smoki's ROM and still has battery drain. I'm now testing BlissPop, again the same. Keep in mind, I don't have anything installed other than BetterBatteryStats. Currently on BlissPop (latest version), I'm seeing a 1 hour wakelock on Android system while the SOT is only 5 minutes. That's rather ridiculous.
I've done a lot of research and have seen good reviews on the Exodus rom, however that's currently 5.0.x I believe and I kinda want to move forward to 5.1 roms. I realize that most 5.1 roms are probably still in early stages (although some rom chefs tagged them as "Stable" so who knows), but still it seems like most roms have more or less the same common issues. From what I've researched, many people tried out various combinations of roms + kernels and had more or less the same result.
I've also seen many people reporting getting only 2~3 hours or probably 5 hours of SOT and not many able to achieve past 6~7 hours. Of course, I'll be installing Greenify, Disable Services and Servicely to tweak it a bit, but just disappointed that even on stock settings, most roms I've tested have more or less the same result. Just wondering if there's anything I can do to fix it because from what I've researched, the only thing that can be done is just keep trying new roms and kernels and that's just a waste of time and experimenting constantly doesn't guarantee results.
I realize I'm ranting a bit here, but having come from my Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy S5, the battery life on my OPO is just way too unbearable.
PS: I've updated my firmware to the latest and factory reset and wiped everything (except internal storage). I've been in the scene for ages so I know what I'm doing, yet this phone just drains battery like crazy and BBS doesn't pick up anything abnormal.

Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2832525
It'll stop your GPS drain dead in its tracks.
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Hi timmaaa, thanks for the reply.
I've actually came across your thread a long time ago and have already applied the suggested tweaks. However GPS isn't really the issue here, it's not showing much drain under BBS.
I did notice the com.cyanogenmo.lockclock.cLock partial wakelock and it seems to be caused by the clock app? I've disabled all the weather settings for cLock and that didn't help. Currently I've frozen it with Titanium Backup and the time on my status bar still works. Weird thing is, BBS still shows the partial wakelock time counting up. I am using BBS (paid version) v2.0. I know that there's a new beta version that's compatible with Android 5.1 so maybe the current BBS I'm using isn't working fully with 5.1 yet, so may be displaying incorrect/outdated data despite the apps being frozen.
I'll also start to apply some tweaks for Disable Services, but yeah the drain even on idle is just disappointing. It's a good phone and I appreciate all the chefs for making their custom roms, but just so frustrated after having purchased a new phone. I've done my research on it and thought I could deal with the battery issue but wasn't expecting it to be this bad. Or maybe I'm just used to my Galaxy S5 having 9 hours of SOT....

chaoscreater said:
Hi timmaaa, thanks for the reply.
I've actually came across your thread a long time ago and have already applied the suggested tweaks. However GPS isn't really the issue here, it's not showing much drain under BBS.
I did notice the com.cyanogenmo.lockclock.cLock partial wakelock and it seems to be caused by the clock app? I've disabled all the weather settings for cLock and that didn't help. Currently I've frozen it with Titanium Backup and the time on my status bar still works. Weird thing is, BBS still shows the partial wakelock time counting up. I am using BBS (paid version) v2.0. I know that there's a new beta version that's compatible with Android 5.1 so maybe the current BBS I'm using isn't working fully with 5.1 yet, so may be displaying incorrect/outdated data despite the apps being frozen.
I'll also start to apply some tweaks for Disable Services, but yeah the drain even on idle is just disappointing. It's a good phone and I appreciate all the chefs for making their custom roms, but just so frustrated after having purchased a new phone. I've done my research on it and thought I could deal with the battery issue but wasn't expecting it to be this bad. Or maybe I'm just used to my Galaxy S5 having 9 hours of SOT....
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I use BBS 2.0 as well so that isn't the issue. I've heard of the cLock app causing issues before but I can't remember if there's a solution or not. Exodus is indeed very good for battery life, but still waiting on the 5.1 update for that one. Nameless ROM is also quite light on the battery, they're not on XDA but you'll find a link to their G+ community in my signature if you want to try it out.
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Lockclock
Set location to manually
And update to never
Make sure you turn off daydream and ambient display in the display settings

Thanks for the rely waterdaan. Already tried what you suggested and currently it's frozen by Titanium Backup. Still had wakelocks though. It only disappeared after several reboots and now I'm getting Google Play Store *alarm* partial wakelocks instead.

Pull out your SIM Card or switch to Airplane mode. If it's gone then, it's your carrier's fault.

Update:
My phone has been in deep sleep over the past 13 hours. I haven't plugged in my SIM card in yet and it's been on airplane mode this entire time. Data roaming options are disabled and it's on 2G right now, data turned off. BBS now shows that it holds an alarm count of 75 for the connectivityservice_pkt_cnt_sample wakelock.
I've tried the suggestion in post #5 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/connectivityservice-wakelock-wifi-off-t2899450
Didn't help though. Under partial wakelock, everything looks fine except Google Play Store *alarm* is holding a wakelock of 8 hours 30s with a count of 2. I don't understand this because the Awake and Screen On time is very close, Deep Sleep is close to 13 hours, the BBS graph looked normal to me, yet somehow Google Play Store is holding a wakelock??? By the way, I've also frozen Google Play Store so I'm not sure why it's holding a wakelock. I was getting the same thing prior to it being frozen.
Not sure if I need to apply the fastdormancy tweak to address the connectivityservice wakelock issue, I guess I'll need to test it out.
Update 2:
Unrelated to fast dormancy. Have updated to OxygenOS modem (00241):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...dio-updated-modem-radio-files-oxygen-t3072516
Still getting the damn connectivityservice alarm wakelocks though. Will probably switch to Exodus and try it out or switch to 44S and see how that goes...

Fastboot flash cm 11s 44s. Greenify donation package/xposed + amplify. Root it then download root uninstaller and remove all bloat such as Google plus etc. In privacy guard turn off wake up and keep awake and location in apps such as Facebook, messenger, play store and Google play services. Do this and report back and you will be amazed, well I was. I had maximum of 2/3h SoT literally 2 days ago . I've done all above yesterday and boom over 8h of SoT! You can find my thread if you don't believe where I ask for tips on what to do and why my battery was so terrible on lollipop. I'll attach few screenshots
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wow that's pretty damn good!
What settings do you use for amplify and greenify? I have both paid versions and have been using it for ages but to be honest I don't think they help improve my battery much. I've applied most of the settings suggested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
I don't use facebook, google plus etc. I keep everything at stock and have very little apps to be honest. Kinda wanna stick to lollipop but if kitkat gives better results, I guess I can give it a try.
I used to love flashing roms but now just don't have the time. I'm also getting frustrated and sick of it too because it takes so much time and effort to test it and troubleshoot for wakelocks etc. I just want something that works out of the box without having to worry so much about fixing things....

Sorry for the late reply. Hmm, with amplify I block all the wakelocks and alarms I can that won't affect my phones functionality, if I'm not sure what one does I let it turn on every 240seconds but I make sure to test it before leaving it. For greenify, I hibernated everything except of whatsapp and apps like adaway or android system apps etc as to lollipop, I was never able to reach more than 5h SoT so yeah I was pretty pissed because I'm one of them people that if I see someone reach 8h SoT, I myself must get 9h SoT haha. Lollipop was supposed to give better battery life but I don't see it as of now. Also kitkat seems to be more stable for me haha . In addition you could play with profiles so for example if you're only texting you can change the performance profile to power saving. You can set it up so that it's in your notification toggles. I have also heard that lollipop doesn't turn off 3g on deep sleep or something like that thus draining more battery that kitkat but who knows you can always play in multirom and see what suits you best.

Inaccurate battery monitor?

Nexus 5, 16GB, MRA58N (stock, not rooted)
Anyone else notice that sometimes the power percentages shown for each process in the battery monitor do not add up to the total battery drain?
I am finding that sometimes they add up to within 1% of the total shown.... and sometimes they are WAY off with as much as 30% of the displayed battery drain unaccounted for.
Since I don''t have access to the battery terminals, I can't determine independently whether the percentages shown are simply inaccurate, or whether there are missing processes (ie., processes not shown at all in the battery monitor).
Paul

Further on this..... here is a screen shot from today. It was pretty accurate until I left the house for several hours. At that point (and accompanied by less than stellar cell signal levels), the battery drain increased significantly as expected with lower signal levels but that did not seem to show up on the usage stats.
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I know this does not show all the entries, but the rest of them were between 1% and 2% and the total added up to about 30%, not the 70% drain shown in the graph.
Paul

This has been happening since the first Lollipop release. Not only on the N5, but also the N7 2013. There isn't a known fix, but for what it's worth, I think it's radio related.
Some days I seriously consider going back to KitKat, I miss 0.2% drain per hour overnight I could consistently achieve with it. And I didn't have to reboot twice a day to stop the stupid drain. It was just better. I think Lollipop was rushed, and it's been a ****show ever since. The other day, I even went so far as to download SlimKat v9 stable, still available on their website.

Ah, good to know it isn't just me. Your suspicion that it is the radio makes some sense.... when it happens to me it is usually after transitioning from WiFi to cell data and with a sub-optimal signal level.
Did you say 0.2%/hour on KK??????? Please elaborate! Best I could ever do was about 1.2%/hour and that was after a LOT of optimization. But that was on my 2013 Moto X. I replaced the Moto X with the N5 when Motorola abandoned us on 5.1, which made my Moto X very unstable.
Is 0.2%/hour possible with KK on a stock non-rooted N5 with no apps updating in the background but with BT, cell and WiFi on and sitting idle on WiFi? What revision level? Or does that require root and Greenify? If anything close to that level can be had on stock I think I'll try flashing it. I had no other issues with KK, I don't mind setting my phone up again and there is nothing except doze that I will miss on MM (so far).
Paul

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Ah, good to know it isn't just me. Your suspicion that it is the radio makes some sense.... when it happens to me it is usually after transitioning from WiFi to cell data and with a sub-optimal signal level.
Did you say 0.2%/hour on KK??????? Please elaborate! Best I could ever do was about 1.2%/hour and that was after a LOT of optimization. But that was on my 2013 Moto X. I replaced the Moto X with the N5 when Motorola abandoned us on 5.1, which made my Moto X very unstable.
Is 0.2%/hour possible with KK on a stock non-rooted N5 with no apps updating in the background but with BT, cell and WiFi on and sitting idle on WiFi? What revision level? Or does that require root and Greenify? If anything close to that level can be had on stock I think I'll try flashing it. I had no other issues with KK, I don't mind setting my phone up again and there is nothing except doze that I will miss on MM (so far).
Paul
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Actually 0,00%/h can be achieved on LP and probably on MM too.
A couple threads to give you clues (and proofs ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884

Ouch! Reducing my standby drain has been a mild obsession with me but the steps on those sites are way beyond what I'm willing to devote to it
Just for grins I flashed KK 4.4.4. Too early to tell for sure, but while my standby drain is not quite as good as I can get in MM with Doze active, it does seem to be more consistent and the various battery percentages in the monitor did add up to the total reported drain. Lets see if this continues. If so I may just leave it on KK for a while. Now if I could only find a way to get rid of the "System Update Available" notification.....
Sooooo nice to have a phone that allows easy flashing of any firmware I want!
Paul

It just dawned on me what you all (I think) have been talking about.... the cell or WiFi standby current suddenly is significantly more than the nominal level that is used to calculate the battery percentages. Right? I have always assumed the battery percentages were MEASURED, which is why I was puzzled by the fact that they didn't always add up correctly. But from what I read, they are CALCULATED based on an ASSUMED nominal consumption (unlike my laptop, which actually measures and integrates charge current delivered and discharge current withdrawn). So what I have been reporting in this thread is probably the same "cell standby" issue everyone has been talking about..... and that I didn't think I was experiencing
OK, I get it (I think). Now that I am happily reverted to 4.4.4, I think I'll wait a couple days and see if people start reporting that it is fixed in 6.0.1.
Paul

@Primokorn
Thank you for these links. I was aware of the existence of Amplify, but had never used it. I tried it, and while it did help curb the wakelocks and alarms, I don't think they are the problem. BBS never reports any runaway wakelocks when I mysteriously lose 20% overnight on Lollipop and Marshmallow.
@pgoelz
I apologize, I meant to reply earlier but got busy. Back when KK was new, the only thing I used was Greenify. I used device only location, on 2.4GHz wifi, sync on, with little to no cell signal. I don't think you really need Greenify though, it's kind of outlived it's usefulness You just need to avoid garbage apps like Facebook.
Anyhow, I flashed SlimKat v9 stable, ParanoidAndroid KK pico gapps, and franco.kernel v63. Pretty much what I used to run back in the KK days. I did eventually switch to code_blue kernel, but the last KK version sometimes caused apps to freeze. I wouldn't use stock ROM and kernel on KitKat. But if you really want to, there are ways to disable the OTA popup. You can use Xposed and Gravity Box, or I think there are also some files you can delete. But you don't really need GravityBox with SlimKat.
I was also on the KK KTU84Q bootloader and radio, but my signal wasn't good enough, so I flashed the 6.0.1 radio released earlier today. Currently running the above ROM/kernel with MM 6.0.1 radio.
Now all I can do is install BBS and wait.
6.0.1 is an update that adds emojis, some weird tablet layout, and a few security fixes. Nothing else.

Thanks for the heads up re: 6.0.1. I think I'll stay on KK for the moment. Battery life isn't as good as it is on MM when doze is dozing and cell isn't draining, but it seems more consistent and predictable. I'll wait for 6.1 to be released. Maybe I'll take a side trip to CM land in the mean time.....
Paul

pgoelz said:
Thanks for the heads up re: 6.0.1. I think I'll stay on KK for the moment. Battery life isn't as good as it is on MM when doze is dozing and cell isn't draining, but it seems more consistent and predictable. I'll wait for 6.1 to be released. Maybe I'll take a side trip to CM land in the mean time.....
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My first night running it got me 0.3% drain per hour. Are you running social media or chat apps? Also, I would recommend giving my setup a try if you're feeling patient.

No, I don't run social media or chat apps. With the exception of calendar and contact sync, any other installed app (mainly Email) is set to manually sync and where possible do NOTHING unless I am actively using it. My concept of a smart phone is that I want a smart phone when I am looking at it and a dumb phone (phone calls and texts only) when I am not. I'm trying to get back to the week of standby I used to get on my last flip phone
Marshmallow and doze get me there and would be even better if we could disable the motion sensing part. But whatever issue is causing my sporadic battery drain (that does not show up in the battery percentages but DOES sow up in the graph) negates that.
I do not plan on staying on KK long term so I'm not sure it is worth the effort to go through your setup but I may get bored at some point and give it a try. Hopefully, the battery drain issue will get fixed soon and I can go back to MM. Or maybe CM13 will be the answer... I have read suggestions that it might allow some customization of the doze functions.
Paul

8 Hrs of MASSIVE SoT on RR O 32Bit with Loony Kernel

THE SoT STATED HERE IS ACHIEVED ON MODERATE USAGE LIKE YOUTUBE, WHATSAPP, SOME BROWSING ETC.
YOU SHOULD GET 6 HRS OF MINIMUM SoT & MAXIMUM SoT IS 8 HRS.
NOTE : SoT DEPENDS UPON YOUR USAGE. IF YOU ARE A HEAVY GAMER, THE SoT WILL NOT BE 6 HRS. THIS THREAD IS FOR "MODERATE" USERS ONLY, NOT HEAVY USERS.
I know its hard to believe but trust me I'm getting 8 hrs of SoT on moto g4. After trying so many tweaks I could get only 6 hrs of SoT but I suffered lags and lack of performance. But with the tweak I'm going to share with you is way better than any other tweaks because you will not face any lags, you will have best performance with best battery backup.
Here's how to get 8 hrs of massive long lasting battery backup :
1. Download and flash the RR Oreo 32bit with Gapps & magisk.
2. Download Loony kernel 32 bit (lk-6-dts) and flash it.
3. Download the AKT Zip from https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/akt-advanced-kernel-tweaks-athene-t3801166
4. Flash the AKT zip in twrp and reboot.
5. Enable Terminal app from Developer Options.
6. Open Terminal app and type su then press enter.
7. Grant root access.
8. Now type AKT & type 1 press enter, again press 1 & enter, now type 8 & press enter.
9. Download Spectrum app from Playstore.
10. Open the spectrum app, grant root access and select Performance. ( Yes, performance profile! I tried the Battery profile but I don't know why the performance profile is giving more SoT as compared to battery profile.)
11. Reboot.
12. Charge your device from 4% to 98% (Don't unplug the charger & don't use your phone untill it reaches 98%)
Enjoy massive SoT of 8 hrs on moto g4!

what about ur signal quality ? could you give us screen shots ?

THere's even a 32 bit version of RR? Neat.

hataw said:
what about ur signal quality ? could you give us screen shots ?
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The signal quality and the performance of the phone is excellent! You won't notice any lag ! I will add screenshots later.

pissgoat said:
THere's even a 32 bit version of RR? Neat.
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Yes & Its buttery smooth !

What about stand-by battery? I'm currerntly getting 2% idle drain per hour with any nougat or marshmallow rom. I remember that idle battery backup in oreo was bad.

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What about stand-by battery? I'm currerntly getting 2% idle drain per hour with any nougat or marshmallow rom. I remember that idle battery backup in oreo was bad.
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There is no high idle drain problem.

Sounds great. Will wait for more feedback before I decide to go from stock to RR Oreo custom Rom.

I'm gonna test it today and see what SoT i get with youtube vanced, instagram, telegram and geometry dash.

"8hrs screen on time" is not achieved by following some step by step guide. Screen on time depends on one's usage. It is not necessary that other's will get the same sot as op by following some steps. Different users, different usage patterns, different preferences. No custom kernel guarantees xx amount of sot, they are made to let people enjoy features that might not be present in stock kernels. Although it is fine that op is sharing his preferred settings for any kernel but it might be not applicable for everyone.
For instance I am a light to sometimes moderate user. I easily get through a day (12-14hrs, who uses his/her phone 24hrs!?) with a single charge (mostly wifi than mobile data) and hardly ever looked at my screen on time. Device stays in battery mode when idle and balanced mode when I am using/interacting with it, I don't play games. Experiences vary for users as per their usage and things need not be same for a light user and a gamer. So better understand your individual usage, use the device accordingly and you'll be satisfied with the results.

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"8hrs screen on time" is not achieved by following some step by step guide. Screen on time depends on one's usage. It is not necessary that other's will get the same sot as op by following some steps. Different users, different usage patterns, different preferences. No custom kernel guarantees xx amount of sot, they are made to let people enjoy features that might not be present in stock kernels. Although it is fine that op is sharing his preferred settings for any kernel but it might be not applicable for everyone.
For instance I am a light to sometimes moderate user. I easily get through a day (12-14hrs, who uses his/her phone 24hrs!?) with a single charge (mostly wifi than mobile data) and hardly ever looked at my screen on time. Device stays in battery mode when idle and balanced mode when I am using/interacting with it, I don't play games. Experiences vary for users as per their usage and things need not be same for a light user and a gamer. So better understand your individual usage, use the device accordingly and you'll be satisfied with the results.
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I already mentioned that the SoT depends upon one's usage. If you try these steps, you will surely notice change in the SoT.

I had about 1.5 hours of SOT
Didn't really work for me
edit: my battery was total trash and replaced it, trying it out right now
edit 2: still getting 3 hrs sot. my issue was that my phone locked it self sometimes just vibrating without doing anything, having to restart. only happens when i flash akt

lCrD512 said:
"8hrs screen on time" is not achieved by following some step by step guide. Screen on time depends on one's usage. It is not necessary that other's will get the same sot as op by following some steps. Different users, different usage patterns, different preferences. No custom kernel guarantees xx amount of sot, they are made to let people enjoy features that might not be present in stock kernels. Although it is fine that op is sharing his preferred settings for any kernel but it might be not applicable for everyone.
For instance I am a light to sometimes moderate user. I easily get through a day (12-14hrs, who uses his/her phone 24hrs!?) with a single charge (mostly wifi than mobile data) and hardly ever looked at my screen on time. Device stays in battery mode when idle and balanced mode when I am using/interacting with it, I don't play games. Experiences vary for users as per their usage and things need not be same for a light user and a gamer. So better understand your individual usage, use the device accordingly and you'll be satisfied with the results.
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By the way, have you tried steps of the thread?

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By the way, have you tried steps of the thread?
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Nope, I have my own presets that work fine for me, I am not recommending a gaming profile for long battery backups lol. Neither any other tweaks with my kernel atleast as it already comes with various profile support through spectrum.

SoT depends of everyones usage, I really noticed a difference, even leaving my phone overnight without charging. I'm not near 8 hours or 5 hours but it's better than my config.

I'm getting 7 hrs 30 mins of SoT after trying your steps. Thank you !!!

Here are my results (brightness 40-50%, leaving phone overnight with WiFi and GPS):
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Not bad. Usually with my settings I get around 3 hours SoT with the phone overnight or with very intensive gaming.
Also I don't know why the phone isn't entering deep sleep mode while i'm not using it.

I went ahead and gave it a try. The RR Oreo 32bit Rom is faster than the Stock Nougat. It seems very stable and I think I am going to stick with it. I think the mods added to the RR rom did make a difference like the Loony kernel, AKT and Spectrum app performance profile. I have been playing around with the settings and customization for now and will get back with how it is the battery performing.
@DhirajKale789, Do you know if there is ported camera for the G4 Oreo 32bit or what other options are there? I tried Cameringo, Camera MX and Footej and the capture is already closer to the the objects. As if it was already pre-zoomed and with the Moto Camera or the default you can get more in the picture. The only one that doesnt start zoomed in is Open Camera.

Danny1976 said:
I went ahead and gave it a try. The RR Oreo 32bit Rom is faster than the Stock Nougat. It seems very stable and I think I am going to stick with it. I think the mods added to the RR rom did make a difference like the Loony kernel, AKT and Spectrum app performance profile. I have been playing around with the settings and customization for now and will get back with how it is the battery performing.
@DhirajKale789, Do you know if there is ported camera for the G4 Oreo 32bit or what other options are there? I tried Cameringo, Camera MX and Footej and the capture is already closer to the the objects. As if it was already pre-zoomed and with the Moto Camera or the default you can get more in the picture. The only one that doesnt start zoomed in is Open Camera.
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I use the OnePlus 5 camera with watermark port. It works fine and records video.

Hallo. what about heating with looney kernel? i am getting so hot with stock rom and with RR 32 bit resurected kernel. and all roms i get heating issues while gaming coc or cr even