Hi all, I've just purchased a OPO 64GB and have been using it for 2 days. So far, I'm not liking it.
I've tested the official 12S ROM and while everything was fine, the battery drain is just unbearable. I understand the issue is main due to the GPS v7.3.29 systemupdate wakelock, but CM already has the fix applied and I've even applied this as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...mod-google-play-services-update-wake-t3078082
I've also tried reverting GPS to an older version but it didn't help. The battery drains regardless of GPS and I don't even have any of my apps installed other than BetterBatteryStats! Why don't I have apps installed? My habbit is to test out the raw stats of any brand new phone I purchase so I have some sort of benchmark to compare against.
So I thought, OK maybe CM 12s has issues, I'll try another ROM. I've tried Smoki's ROM and still has battery drain. I'm now testing BlissPop, again the same. Keep in mind, I don't have anything installed other than BetterBatteryStats. Currently on BlissPop (latest version), I'm seeing a 1 hour wakelock on Android system while the SOT is only 5 minutes. That's rather ridiculous.
I've done a lot of research and have seen good reviews on the Exodus rom, however that's currently 5.0.x I believe and I kinda want to move forward to 5.1 roms. I realize that most 5.1 roms are probably still in early stages (although some rom chefs tagged them as "Stable" so who knows), but still it seems like most roms have more or less the same common issues. From what I've researched, many people tried out various combinations of roms + kernels and had more or less the same result.
I've also seen many people reporting getting only 2~3 hours or probably 5 hours of SOT and not many able to achieve past 6~7 hours. Of course, I'll be installing Greenify, Disable Services and Servicely to tweak it a bit, but just disappointed that even on stock settings, most roms I've tested have more or less the same result. Just wondering if there's anything I can do to fix it because from what I've researched, the only thing that can be done is just keep trying new roms and kernels and that's just a waste of time and experimenting constantly doesn't guarantee results.
I realize I'm ranting a bit here, but having come from my Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy S5, the battery life on my OPO is just way too unbearable.
PS: I've updated my firmware to the latest and factory reset and wiped everything (except internal storage). I've been in the scene for ages so I know what I'm doing, yet this phone just drains battery like crazy and BBS doesn't pick up anything abnormal.
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2832525
It'll stop your GPS drain dead in its tracks.
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Hi timmaaa, thanks for the reply.
I've actually came across your thread a long time ago and have already applied the suggested tweaks. However GPS isn't really the issue here, it's not showing much drain under BBS.
I did notice the com.cyanogenmo.lockclock.cLock partial wakelock and it seems to be caused by the clock app? I've disabled all the weather settings for cLock and that didn't help. Currently I've frozen it with Titanium Backup and the time on my status bar still works. Weird thing is, BBS still shows the partial wakelock time counting up. I am using BBS (paid version) v2.0. I know that there's a new beta version that's compatible with Android 5.1 so maybe the current BBS I'm using isn't working fully with 5.1 yet, so may be displaying incorrect/outdated data despite the apps being frozen.
I'll also start to apply some tweaks for Disable Services, but yeah the drain even on idle is just disappointing. It's a good phone and I appreciate all the chefs for making their custom roms, but just so frustrated after having purchased a new phone. I've done my research on it and thought I could deal with the battery issue but wasn't expecting it to be this bad. Or maybe I'm just used to my Galaxy S5 having 9 hours of SOT....
chaoscreater said:
Hi timmaaa, thanks for the reply.
I've actually came across your thread a long time ago and have already applied the suggested tweaks. However GPS isn't really the issue here, it's not showing much drain under BBS.
I did notice the com.cyanogenmo.lockclock.cLock partial wakelock and it seems to be caused by the clock app? I've disabled all the weather settings for cLock and that didn't help. Currently I've frozen it with Titanium Backup and the time on my status bar still works. Weird thing is, BBS still shows the partial wakelock time counting up. I am using BBS (paid version) v2.0. I know that there's a new beta version that's compatible with Android 5.1 so maybe the current BBS I'm using isn't working fully with 5.1 yet, so may be displaying incorrect/outdated data despite the apps being frozen.
I'll also start to apply some tweaks for Disable Services, but yeah the drain even on idle is just disappointing. It's a good phone and I appreciate all the chefs for making their custom roms, but just so frustrated after having purchased a new phone. I've done my research on it and thought I could deal with the battery issue but wasn't expecting it to be this bad. Or maybe I'm just used to my Galaxy S5 having 9 hours of SOT....
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I use BBS 2.0 as well so that isn't the issue. I've heard of the cLock app causing issues before but I can't remember if there's a solution or not. Exodus is indeed very good for battery life, but still waiting on the 5.1 update for that one. Nameless ROM is also quite light on the battery, they're not on XDA but you'll find a link to their G+ community in my signature if you want to try it out.
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Lockclock
Set location to manually
And update to never
Make sure you turn off daydream and ambient display in the display settings
Thanks for the rely waterdaan. Already tried what you suggested and currently it's frozen by Titanium Backup. Still had wakelocks though. It only disappeared after several reboots and now I'm getting Google Play Store *alarm* partial wakelocks instead.
Pull out your SIM Card or switch to Airplane mode. If it's gone then, it's your carrier's fault.
Update:
My phone has been in deep sleep over the past 13 hours. I haven't plugged in my SIM card in yet and it's been on airplane mode this entire time. Data roaming options are disabled and it's on 2G right now, data turned off. BBS now shows that it holds an alarm count of 75 for the connectivityservice_pkt_cnt_sample wakelock.
I've tried the suggestion in post #5 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/connectivityservice-wakelock-wifi-off-t2899450
Didn't help though. Under partial wakelock, everything looks fine except Google Play Store *alarm* is holding a wakelock of 8 hours 30s with a count of 2. I don't understand this because the Awake and Screen On time is very close, Deep Sleep is close to 13 hours, the BBS graph looked normal to me, yet somehow Google Play Store is holding a wakelock??? By the way, I've also frozen Google Play Store so I'm not sure why it's holding a wakelock. I was getting the same thing prior to it being frozen.
Not sure if I need to apply the fastdormancy tweak to address the connectivityservice wakelock issue, I guess I'll need to test it out.
Update 2:
Unrelated to fast dormancy. Have updated to OxygenOS modem (00241):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...dio-updated-modem-radio-files-oxygen-t3072516
Still getting the damn connectivityservice alarm wakelocks though. Will probably switch to Exodus and try it out or switch to 44S and see how that goes...
Fastboot flash cm 11s 44s. Greenify donation package/xposed + amplify. Root it then download root uninstaller and remove all bloat such as Google plus etc. In privacy guard turn off wake up and keep awake and location in apps such as Facebook, messenger, play store and Google play services. Do this and report back and you will be amazed, well I was. I had maximum of 2/3h SoT literally 2 days ago . I've done all above yesterday and boom over 8h of SoT! You can find my thread if you don't believe where I ask for tips on what to do and why my battery was so terrible on lollipop. I'll attach few screenshots
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wow that's pretty damn good!
What settings do you use for amplify and greenify? I have both paid versions and have been using it for ages but to be honest I don't think they help improve my battery much. I've applied most of the settings suggested here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
I don't use facebook, google plus etc. I keep everything at stock and have very little apps to be honest. Kinda wanna stick to lollipop but if kitkat gives better results, I guess I can give it a try.
I used to love flashing roms but now just don't have the time. I'm also getting frustrated and sick of it too because it takes so much time and effort to test it and troubleshoot for wakelocks etc. I just want something that works out of the box without having to worry so much about fixing things....
Sorry for the late reply. Hmm, with amplify I block all the wakelocks and alarms I can that won't affect my phones functionality, if I'm not sure what one does I let it turn on every 240seconds but I make sure to test it before leaving it. For greenify, I hibernated everything except of whatsapp and apps like adaway or android system apps etc as to lollipop, I was never able to reach more than 5h SoT so yeah I was pretty pissed because I'm one of them people that if I see someone reach 8h SoT, I myself must get 9h SoT haha. Lollipop was supposed to give better battery life but I don't see it as of now. Also kitkat seems to be more stable for me haha . In addition you could play with profiles so for example if you're only texting you can change the performance profile to power saving. You can set it up so that it's in your notification toggles. I have also heard that lollipop doesn't turn off 3g on deep sleep or something like that thus draining more battery that kitkat but who knows you can always play in multirom and see what suits you best.
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Hello,
I sold my Note 2 last week and got a Nexus 5. I paid the equivalent of $500 here in my country for the phone because I love the Nexus experience and developer support.
However, the battery life on my phone has been nothing but outright poor. I haven't really kept it on stock because I flashed CM11 as soon as I got it but I tried the CM kernel and with poor battery, switched to franco. However, it has all been downhill for me. Is stock any better?
I'm posting screenshots of the amount of drain I'm getting. Heck, I didn't even use my phone today of the fear of losing battery and it's still the same.
Google Play Services was eating a lot of battery but after a restart, it just stopped and I haven't had it since last night.
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Bump! I'm having the same issue. I went to bed last night and left the phone at 90% and I turned off WiFi and LTE and 3G. Made sure all apps were closed. And woke up 6 hours later and my battery was at 75% please help us guys.
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WiFi is on! There is a stupid option in by google....it keeps scanning for WiFi even after your WiFi is turned off....Kinda of a bummer really...Also turn off the Hotword recognition("Ok google" crap).
hit thanks if helped
Over here on the htc one verizon we were having similar problems flashing 4.4 to 4.3 to gpe to sense that it just screwed the battery and would drain awful just like your pic
The fix came to flashing a stock ruu image which helped greatly, then just flashed back our rom of choice
But i dont know really, just giving some insight for you nexus owners!
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After I rooted my phone and installed all the root-specific tools (still on stock rom) my idle battery drain is under 1% per hour, with wifi permanently on (even during sleep).
What I've found is very effective is, make sure you force close certain apps that cause idle-drain.
Certain apps also continue giving large idle-drain even after FCing them, and a hard reboot is the only way to solve this.
Youtube is the only major culprit though, and usually shows up as "phone idle" or one of the other OS-specific ones.
@DryEagle
Are you running a custom kernel or stock? Any other root tools that you may utilize as you speak of them?
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@DryEagle
Are you running a custom kernel or stock? Any other root tools that you may utilize as you speak of them?
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i have:
stock rom (still on 4.4)
stock kernel
used cf-auto-root
xposed framework, with: bootmanager, gravitybox, crt effect disabler, batterystats permission (the last 2-3 shouldn't affect anything)
titanium backup, here's all the stock stuff i've freeze'd away:
calculator, keyboard, email, cloud print, exchange, face unlock, gmail, non-english inputs (hindi, japanese, korean etc), google movies, google music, google newsstand, google +, hp print service, keep, stock launcher, stock news+weather, picasa, talkback, tags, google wallet
nova launcher
hd widgets
sd maid (though i only use it like once a week to clear out crap)
adaway
i think that's everything really
to me it appears your phone was not going into deep sleep in the first post. Did you go into all of the sub menus and look for "device keep awake" time? I only ask because I keep my wifi on most of the time and with average use I can manage 2 days and 5-6 hours of screen on time. Catacylsm ROM and Franco kernel. 4.4.1, I've been seeing too many reports of issues when going to 4.2.2 so I've held off.
No issues here with stock CM as i lost 1% after a full charge and unplugged at 12am. Woke up this morning at 7am and still had 99%. Had LTE on (not connected), WIFI and bluetooth and NFC off. Ok Google is not running when the screen is off so that shouldn't matter. I don't have a ton of widgets and crap but Sunbeam Live Wallpaper is my normal. This is the norm for me on stock as well.
So no idea what's going on with your device but i don't have those issues with battery life.
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However, the battery life on my phone has been nothing but outright poor. I haven't really kept it on stock because I flashed CM11 as soon as I got it but I tried the CM kernel and with poor battery, switched to franco. However, it has all been downhill for me. Is stock any better?
[...]
Google Play Services was eating a lot of battery but after a restart, it just stopped and I haven't had it since last night.
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Could it have happened, that you got the buggy franco r22? There was an issue with deep sleep states, which ate a lot of battery. Update to r23 and everything should be fine for you again. If this does not fix your problem, you could try to post some Better Battery Stats - Screenshots.
@DerItaliener
It may have been because of franco R22. But the drain was insane.
@DryEagle
Thank you very much.
I am happy to report that I flashed the Google factory 4.4.2 image and flashed TWRP and rooted my phone. Installed Whatsapp & Viber and charged it to 98%. I am happy to report that I woke up to 95% of battery in the morning so a total 3% lost with WiFi turned on over night.
I'm a happy man. However, I do miss the CM specific features. Also, stock seems to be much more fluid and faster. Maybe because of being odexed?
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@DerItaliener
It may have been because of franco R22. But the drain was insane.
@DryEagle
Thank you very much.
I am happy to report that I flashed the Google factory 4.4.2 image and flashed TWRP and rooted my phone. Installed Whatsapp & Viber and charged it to 98%. I am happy to report that I woke up to 95% of battery in the morning so a total 3% lost with WiFi turned on over night.
I'm a happy man. However, I do miss the CM specific features. Also, stock seems to be much more fluid and faster. Maybe because of being odexed?
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Have you got xposed and gravitybox and the other stuff going? That adds in a whole heap of features to stock that are otherwise only available with a custom rom. Very highly recommend.
Draning about 1% every two minutes, with regular use browsing and listening to music would that be a drain issue?
Also the screen have consumed 31% in one hour! I think that an issue #?
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Draning about 1% every two minutes, with regular use browsing and listening to music would that be a drain issue?
Also the screen have consumed 31% in one hour! I think that an issue #?
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8 month necro, nice.
See the sticky thread for battery help.
Hi,
I have searched the forum for this and even though there are a number of cases they all seem different from this one. Instead of confusing matters more I decided to open a separate thread.
My Moto G (European version, en. DE, Android 4.4.2) so far had always been running for 7-10 days on a charge. Mobile data is off, GPS is off, data is off, WiFi is on only occasionally, no calls at all.
This has changed. My use is the same but the battery now drains at around 1.5-2% per hour, effectively cutting running time in half.
The only thing I (consciously) changed was to install SwiftKey. I have read that there have been issued like this with a previous version of it but that seems to have been fixed since 4.4 or so. Either way my other android device handles SwiftKey well so I am really not sure what might be causing this.
Of course I removed SwiftKey but that did not fix the problem.
The OS reports this battery usage: idle 35%, display 27%, cell standby 23%, Android system 5%, Android OS 3%.
Also I have no idea what kind of background update might have been made without me knowing it.
Do you have any idea what might be causing this? Is anyone of you experiencing the same issue?
What kind of battery do you have?
fertchen said:
Hi,
I have searched the forum for this and even though there are a number of cases they all seem different from this one. Instead of confusing matters more I decided to open a separate thread.
My Moto G (European version, en. DE, Android 4.4.2) so far had always been running for 7-10 days on a charge. Mobile data is off, GPS is off, data is off, WiFi is on only occasionally, no calls at all.
This has changed. My use is the same but the battery now drains at around 1.5-2% per hour, effectively cutting running time in half.
The only thing I (consciously) changed was to install SwiftKey. I have read that there have been issued like this with a previous version of it but that seems to have been fixed since 4.4 or so. Either way my other android device handles SwiftKey well so I am really not sure what might be causing this.
Of course I removed SwiftKey but that did not fix the problem.
The OS reports this battery usage: idle 35%, display 27%, cell standby 23%, Android system 5%, Android OS 3%.
Also I have no idea what kind of background update might have been made without me knowing it.
Do you have any idea what might be causing this? Is anyone of you experiencing the same issue?
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Just curious to find out what kind of battery do you have and where did you purchase it? It may be the new installation but hard to tell.
mugenbatteriesOwner said:
Just curious to find out what kind of battery do you have and where did you purchase it? It may be the new installation but hard to tell.
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What kind of battery I do not know - I did not change anything on this phone and as far as I know the battery can not be removed. I bought the phone in early January 2014, it was one of the cost to be delivered and still had the previous android version (4.3?) back then.
fertchen said:
What kind of battery I do not know - I did not change anything on this phone and as far as I know the battery can not be removed. I bought the phone in early January 2014, it was one of the cost to be delivered and still had the previous android version (4.3?) back then.
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Go to developer Options in settings and if you do not have this option then go to About Phone and tap 5 times on Build Date or number (should be last one) then go to "PROCESS STATS" which is under "ENABLE BLUETOOTH HCI SNOOP LOG" and when you are at process stats click on the three dots on top right and change the duration for 1 day and then you might be able to find the application that is running in the background constantly, mine is Facebook lol and Facebook Messenger....
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Go to developer Options in settings and if you do not have this option then go to About Phone and tap 5 times on Build Date or number (should be last one) then go to "PROCESS STATS" which is under "ENABLE BLUETOOTH HCI SNOOP LOG" and when you are at process stats click on the three dots on top right and change the duration for 1 day and then you might be able to find the application that is running in the background constantly, mine is Facebook lol and Facebook Messenger....
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this is mine lol
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this is mine lol
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From that i cant see anything but im sure that you are facing a wakelock from the qcamera2factory, you usually get this wakelock from apps such as Skype and Snapchat, force close these types of applications and hopefully you will get your great Battery life back. Those apps didnt allow me device to enter deep sleep so i was loosing a lot of battery life and to check if you have this wakelock you need root because of kitkat permissions but if you dont want to root then just force close those applications and wait a few days and test it out.
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From that i cant see anything but im sure that you are facing a wakelock from the qcamera2factory, you usually get this wakelock from apps such as Skype and Snapchat, force close these types of applications and hopefully you will get your great Battery life back. Those apps didnt allow me device to enter deep sleep so i was loosing a lot of battery life and to check if you have this wakelock you need root because of kitkat permissions but if you dont want to root then just force close those applications and wait a few days and test it out.
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what's qcamera2factory ? yeah I am rooted, I hibernate my apps with greenify whenever I can. what app can you suggest for viewing battery stats and wakelocks ?
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what's qcamera2factory ? yeah I am rooted, I hibernate my apps with greenify whenever I can. what app can you suggest for viewing battery stats and wakelocks ?
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Just search wakelock detector on Play store and it should be the first application there. The qcamera2factory is a wakelock inside of the "Media Server" wakelock. Check how long your device has been on for and how much screen on time you have and compare to how long you have had deep sleep, if you have like 10 hours of on time and 1 hour of screen on time you should have about 9 hours of Deep sleep, if it is anything weird like 1 hour or 2 hours then you have something preventing your phone from deep sleeping.
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Just search wakelock detector on Play store and it should be the first application there. The qcamera2factory is a wakelock inside of the "Media Server" wakelock. Check how long your device has been on for and how much screen on time you have and compare to how long you have had deep sleep, if you have like 10 hours of on time and 1 hour of screen on time you should have about 9 hours of Deep sleep, if it is anything weird like 1 hour or 2 hours then you have something preventing your phone from deep sleeping.
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OK I'll search for that app . what happens if I'm on my phone all the time n don't switch off screen. does that count ?
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OK I'll search for that app . what happens if I'm on my phone all the time n don't switch off screen. does that count ?
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lol if you are on your phone all the time then you will see somethinh like this xD 10 hours on time - 9 hours screen on time and 1 hour deep sleep. lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector is this it ?
Hmm... No app like that (Skype etc.) is running on my phone. Could it be the camera app itself? Never had any issues with that before though.
My phone is not rooted. I just want to use it in place and not think about it too much. Researching which is the best path to root for Moto G was to mich for me back when I bought it and I have been happy with it or if the box - so far...
here was my stats after one night. kernel wakelock
CPU wake lock
in kitkat, wakelock policy was changed and you cant clearly see any system wakelock without root (i have tried many apps like wakelock detector and there is nothing to see in compare with Jelly Bean 4.3)
i had this annoying battery idle drain - it happened randomly, sometimes battery ran 7 days with light usage of phone but sometimes 30-40% was gone in 24 hours = 1-2%/h
i didnt have any apps installed like Skype, Facebook, or any other "keep awake" app - i also set up my gps, wifi settings, nothing helped
i also switched to ART runtime..again, didnt help
i decided to switch back to factory Jelly Bean 4.3 - you CAN flash stock ROM without unlocking bootloader (im locked without root) and now im running 4.3 with battery drain 0,1-0,4%/h in idle...battery life is now amazing - final battery drain is always ~0,6%/h (light usage)
im charging my phone from 30% to 80% and now it enough for 3 days ! for my 6h night it is only 1-3%
in background i have 3 apps running for battery monitoring (battery hd, batterydrain [analyser], gsam battery monitor) and few schedule apps...i disabled unnecessary apps like motocare and few other google/motorola apps
yes, im missing better alarm (kitkat), better RAM (now i have 60-100MB less...but if 380MB free or 460MB free...it doesnt matter for me) and some other little things that everything i can handle for MUCH MORE BETTER battery :good:
Mine drains 10% when it's in plane mode per hour...
But others days can last longer for at least 8-9 hours of screen time.
Is your phone running hot? I've had a problem with some custom kernels that caused my phone to run hot and drain fast without any visible signs.
this is after some time. im concerned by the second one on the list because it has Wheelock's at the end of name and it has x1441
I just rooted the thing and installed Greenify and GSam Battery Monitor. Now I'm down to 0,3-0,4%/h. That is fine for me.
It is a bit sad that it had to come to this but that is how the world works these days, I guess. Isn't it amazing how mch technology we can fit in these small packages?
0,3-0,4%/h is amazing !
im on 0,34%/h as final result now (BatteryDrain [Analyser])
yesterday i ended 5 days cycle on 53% battery i charged to 82% then with very light usage i need to charge after 5 full days (120 hours) on 29% (= no idle battery drain)
this idle battery drain is not hardware related, its issued by (stupid) KitKat - i really dont believe that it will be fixed in any next release (4.4.x or 5)
im enjoying JellyBean 4.3 much more than KitKat - all you need is flash stock system image WITHOUT unlocking bootloader/root/losing your warranty
Nexus 5, 16GB, MRA58N (stock, not rooted)
Anyone else notice that sometimes the power percentages shown for each process in the battery monitor do not add up to the total battery drain?
I am finding that sometimes they add up to within 1% of the total shown.... and sometimes they are WAY off with as much as 30% of the displayed battery drain unaccounted for.
Since I don''t have access to the battery terminals, I can't determine independently whether the percentages shown are simply inaccurate, or whether there are missing processes (ie., processes not shown at all in the battery monitor).
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Further on this..... here is a screen shot from today. It was pretty accurate until I left the house for several hours. At that point (and accompanied by less than stellar cell signal levels), the battery drain increased significantly as expected with lower signal levels but that did not seem to show up on the usage stats.
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I know this does not show all the entries, but the rest of them were between 1% and 2% and the total added up to about 30%, not the 70% drain shown in the graph.
Paul
This has been happening since the first Lollipop release. Not only on the N5, but also the N7 2013. There isn't a known fix, but for what it's worth, I think it's radio related.
Some days I seriously consider going back to KitKat, I miss 0.2% drain per hour overnight I could consistently achieve with it. And I didn't have to reboot twice a day to stop the stupid drain. It was just better. I think Lollipop was rushed, and it's been a ****show ever since. The other day, I even went so far as to download SlimKat v9 stable, still available on their website.
Ah, good to know it isn't just me. Your suspicion that it is the radio makes some sense.... when it happens to me it is usually after transitioning from WiFi to cell data and with a sub-optimal signal level.
Did you say 0.2%/hour on KK??????? Please elaborate! Best I could ever do was about 1.2%/hour and that was after a LOT of optimization. But that was on my 2013 Moto X. I replaced the Moto X with the N5 when Motorola abandoned us on 5.1, which made my Moto X very unstable.
Is 0.2%/hour possible with KK on a stock non-rooted N5 with no apps updating in the background but with BT, cell and WiFi on and sitting idle on WiFi? What revision level? Or does that require root and Greenify? If anything close to that level can be had on stock I think I'll try flashing it. I had no other issues with KK, I don't mind setting my phone up again and there is nothing except doze that I will miss on MM (so far).
Paul
pgoelz said:
Ah, good to know it isn't just me. Your suspicion that it is the radio makes some sense.... when it happens to me it is usually after transitioning from WiFi to cell data and with a sub-optimal signal level.
Did you say 0.2%/hour on KK??????? Please elaborate! Best I could ever do was about 1.2%/hour and that was after a LOT of optimization. But that was on my 2013 Moto X. I replaced the Moto X with the N5 when Motorola abandoned us on 5.1, which made my Moto X very unstable.
Is 0.2%/hour possible with KK on a stock non-rooted N5 with no apps updating in the background but with BT, cell and WiFi on and sitting idle on WiFi? What revision level? Or does that require root and Greenify? If anything close to that level can be had on stock I think I'll try flashing it. I had no other issues with KK, I don't mind setting my phone up again and there is nothing except doze that I will miss on MM (so far).
Paul
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Actually 0,00%/h can be achieved on LP and probably on MM too.
A couple threads to give you clues (and proofs ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
Ouch! Reducing my standby drain has been a mild obsession with me but the steps on those sites are way beyond what I'm willing to devote to it
Just for grins I flashed KK 4.4.4. Too early to tell for sure, but while my standby drain is not quite as good as I can get in MM with Doze active, it does seem to be more consistent and the various battery percentages in the monitor did add up to the total reported drain. Lets see if this continues. If so I may just leave it on KK for a while. Now if I could only find a way to get rid of the "System Update Available" notification.....
Sooooo nice to have a phone that allows easy flashing of any firmware I want!
Paul
It just dawned on me what you all (I think) have been talking about.... the cell or WiFi standby current suddenly is significantly more than the nominal level that is used to calculate the battery percentages. Right? I have always assumed the battery percentages were MEASURED, which is why I was puzzled by the fact that they didn't always add up correctly. But from what I read, they are CALCULATED based on an ASSUMED nominal consumption (unlike my laptop, which actually measures and integrates charge current delivered and discharge current withdrawn). So what I have been reporting in this thread is probably the same "cell standby" issue everyone has been talking about..... and that I didn't think I was experiencing
OK, I get it (I think). Now that I am happily reverted to 4.4.4, I think I'll wait a couple days and see if people start reporting that it is fixed in 6.0.1.
Paul
@Primokorn
Thank you for these links. I was aware of the existence of Amplify, but had never used it. I tried it, and while it did help curb the wakelocks and alarms, I don't think they are the problem. BBS never reports any runaway wakelocks when I mysteriously lose 20% overnight on Lollipop and Marshmallow.
@pgoelz
I apologize, I meant to reply earlier but got busy. Back when KK was new, the only thing I used was Greenify. I used device only location, on 2.4GHz wifi, sync on, with little to no cell signal. I don't think you really need Greenify though, it's kind of outlived it's usefulness You just need to avoid garbage apps like Facebook.
Anyhow, I flashed SlimKat v9 stable, ParanoidAndroid KK pico gapps, and franco.kernel v63. Pretty much what I used to run back in the KK days. I did eventually switch to code_blue kernel, but the last KK version sometimes caused apps to freeze. I wouldn't use stock ROM and kernel on KitKat. But if you really want to, there are ways to disable the OTA popup. You can use Xposed and Gravity Box, or I think there are also some files you can delete. But you don't really need GravityBox with SlimKat.
I was also on the KK KTU84Q bootloader and radio, but my signal wasn't good enough, so I flashed the 6.0.1 radio released earlier today. Currently running the above ROM/kernel with MM 6.0.1 radio.
Now all I can do is install BBS and wait.
6.0.1 is an update that adds emojis, some weird tablet layout, and a few security fixes. Nothing else.
Thanks for the heads up re: 6.0.1. I think I'll stay on KK for the moment. Battery life isn't as good as it is on MM when doze is dozing and cell isn't draining, but it seems more consistent and predictable. I'll wait for 6.1 to be released. Maybe I'll take a side trip to CM land in the mean time.....
Paul
pgoelz said:
Thanks for the heads up re: 6.0.1. I think I'll stay on KK for the moment. Battery life isn't as good as it is on MM when doze is dozing and cell isn't draining, but it seems more consistent and predictable. I'll wait for 6.1 to be released. Maybe I'll take a side trip to CM land in the mean time.....
Paul
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My first night running it got me 0.3% drain per hour. Are you running social media or chat apps? Also, I would recommend giving my setup a try if you're feeling patient.
No, I don't run social media or chat apps. With the exception of calendar and contact sync, any other installed app (mainly Email) is set to manually sync and where possible do NOTHING unless I am actively using it. My concept of a smart phone is that I want a smart phone when I am looking at it and a dumb phone (phone calls and texts only) when I am not. I'm trying to get back to the week of standby I used to get on my last flip phone
Marshmallow and doze get me there and would be even better if we could disable the motion sensing part. But whatever issue is causing my sporadic battery drain (that does not show up in the battery percentages but DOES sow up in the graph) negates that.
I do not plan on staying on KK long term so I'm not sure it is worth the effort to go through your setup but I may get bored at some point and give it a try. Hopefully, the battery drain issue will get fixed soon and I can go back to MM. Or maybe CM13 will be the answer... I have read suggestions that it might allow some customization of the doze functions.
Paul
Want to increase your battery life? Install Greenify and activate "Aggressive Doze"
I have the Verizon S7E so there isn't much we can do AT ALL to increase battery life because we will likely be stuck without root forever.
That being said, I've been looking around and a lot of people have been saying that the S7 line isn't "dozing". I remembered that the Greenify app has something called "Aggressive Doze (experimental)" in its settings.
So I tried to force the Doze with Greenify. It worked.
1. Download Greenify
2. Open Greenify and click the 3 dots at the top right of the app.
3. Click Settings
4. The 2nd option should be "Aggressive Doze (experimental)" and disabled
5. Click on it and then enable it
(Optional) - I enabled the notification at the bottom so it tells me when and how long each time that it dozes for. This is nice because it gives me the sense that it's ACTUALLY working because otherwise I would have no idea. You can turn it off later too.
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I have noticed quite a bit of improved battery life on my Verizon S7 Edge. I only lost 2% battery over my 8 hour sleep last night.
I don't have a stats page at the moment. Let me charge it to full and post in 2-3 days because that's how good it is right now.
I've uninstalled greenify 'cause some devices on MM had problems with it. After reading this I'm thinking to install it again and do it your way.
Did you have any deepsleep issues or redraws on touchwiz while on the aggressive mod ??
Thanks.
fethi2 said:
I've uninstalled greenify 'cause some devices on MM had problems with it. After reading this I'm thinking to install it again and do it your way.
Did you have any deepsleep issues or redraws on touchwiz while on the aggressive mod ??
Thanks.
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I've had zero issues so far. If you can handle the occasional delayed notification (because this is Doze) from Facebook/Twitter/etc then you'll be fine.
Greenify even let's you Whitelist apps that you don't want dozing in case you need instant notifications for the specified app.
I thought greenify requires root?
I was getting delayed alarms from Google's clock app. Had to uninstall Greenify.
Mrinal Roy said:
I thought greenify requires root?
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No, not entirely. The paid app lets you greenify some system apps without root. I currently don't use it with Marshmallow.
entropism said:
I was getting delayed alarms from Google's clock app. Had to uninstall Greenify.
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Whitelist it. And any other app that might experience delays. It does say "experimental" after all.
Might want to remove it from the hibernate list too if it's giving you issues.
I have the Google clock app and both of my alarms were working fine this morning so others mileage may vary.
Syn Ack said:
Whitelist it. And any other app that might experience delays. It does say "experimental" after all.
Might want to remove it from the hibernate list too if it's giving you issues.
I have the Google clock app and both of my alarms were working fine this morning so others mileage may vary.
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It was whitelisted by default. Yeah, it was the oddest thing... My alarm would go off like 8 minutes late, and the screen would show "-8:34 Remaining"
Yeah, Gmail is whitelisted. Took 45 minutes to get a notification that the email came in.
entropism said:
It was whitelisted by default. Yeah, it was the oddest thing... My alarm would go off like 8 minutes late, and the screen would show "-8:34 Remaining"
Yeah, Gmail is whitelisted. Took 45 minutes to get a notification that the email came in.
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That's a bummer. I guess they should mention YMMV in the app too lol.
So far working great for me, no issues. Hopefully that will keep up.
Works fine for me too. No delayed alarms or texts.
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Wondering
I had Greenify with Aggressive Doze on my Verizon Note 5. It seemed to help quite a bit. For me to enable it on the Note 5 though, I had to push an ADB command via USB to set it up...Is that not the case with the S7 Edge?
https://greenify.uservoice.com/know...o-grant-permissions-required-by-some-features
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Are you also hibernating apps, or only using aggressive doze?
geoff5093 said:
Are you also hibernating apps, or only using aggressive doze?
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Just setting it up at this point...So presently I am not hibernating any apps
I dont use greenify or anything for that matter. I get from 10-12 SOT. Normal use. Snapdragon version. I believe since we cant root our device, knowing how to the debloat with disable package pro will give u battery battery life than messing with doze.
eduardmc said:
I dont use greenify or anything for that matter. I get from 10-12 SOT. Normal use. Snapdragon version. I believe since we cant root our device, knowing how to the debloat with disable package pro will give u battery battery life than messing with doze.
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I did the debloat, it helped a bit. Aggressive doze helped more.
Also I don't believe you one bit with anything over 10 hours SOT. Unless of course you put on a 10 hour movie with super low brightness and left the phone sitting.
It was causing my music to stop playing in the background so I turned it off
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Experimenting with Greenify's aggressive doze setting. So far I had to tweak a couple settings since it was blocking my calendar schedule. I even had S planner white listed as well. What I did to correct it was actually white list Greenify and that made it work. Gonna play with it a few days and see how it goes.
aggressive doze works well for me
hibernation makes my phone unstable in some cases, so I left aggressive doze only, phone works fast and battery life is noticeable better.
how do I know whether the doze mode is working or not ?
what is the app that I can use to monitor doze mode ?
Aggressive doze did NOT work well for me... At first it changed my estimated battery usage time left (with full battery) down to 9 hours, then things stopped working. I whitelisted Greenify, and I had other apps whitelisted before using it, so I didn't have to change them, and they all worked fine prior to aggressive doze. Battery life ended up being fine for the most part, but GPS would never find me at all (whitelisted location, no change), my-places stopped working (whitelisted it, no change), the phone was very unresponsive, even after unlocking, just didn't go well lol... Uninstalled it this morning, my GPS still either won't lock, or thinks I'm somewhere a few blocks away, turned on high accuracy which fixed that. I'm constantly seeing finding location, and location found on my notifications. Maaannn, I was hoping for just a little better battery life, and instead turned into a huge pain! Beware guys and gals!
I've been googling this issue for 3 months now. The battery drain while the phone is asleep is outrageous from day 1 of owning it. Most nights Accubattery shows a loss of 2 to 5% per hour while screen is off, and usually like 93% of the screen off time is in deep sleep. The drain should be 0.5% at most.
I confirmed that battery saving mode cures the issue. I have now confirmed that simply turning off wifi cures the issue. I'm practically certain that Wifi is the cause. BUT WHY?
I have tried flashing the NoLimits xXx Magisk mod, and have tried other custom ROMs and this issue persists. I have even completely reflashed back to stock using the unbrick procedure with the MSMDownloadTool.exe. We can rule out all possible custom tweaks. This phone is stock and it's doing this.
I've tried a variety of settings people have mentioned like turning off printer service, and a couple settings in Dev Options like App Wifi Multi Broadcast Filter. I've enabled the same filter on my router. No luck.
My router is a Linksys EA7300. What can I do besides replace my router? Its a powerful router but is very locked down, settings wise, with no custom firmwares like WRT. I'm pretty much stuck with it. It has no advanced options to dig through...
Edit: Well I swapped routers entirely and I can already tell this is draining just as fast when connected to it. Its just the Wifi driver entirely to blame.
Here's last night.
https://i.imgur.com/gHNoyzv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OahPtJq.jpg
Mozgus said:
I've been googling this issue for 2 months now. The battery drain while the phone is asleep is outrageous from day 1 of owning it. Most nights Accubattery shows a loss of 2 to 5% per hour while screen is off, and usually like 93% of the screen off time is in deep sleep. The drain should be 0.5% at most.
I confirmed that battery saving mode cures the issue. I have now confirmed that simply turning off wifi cures the issue. I'm practically certain that Wifi is the cause. BUT WHY?
I have tried flashing the NoLimits xXx Magisk mod, and have tried other custom ROMs and this issue persists. I have even completely reflashed back to stock using the unbrick procedure with the MSMDownloadTool.exe. We can rule out all possible custom tweaks. This phone is stock and it's doing this.
I've tried a variety of settings people have mentioned like turning off printer service, and a couple settings in Dev Options like App Wifi Multi Broadcast Filter. I've enabled the same filter on my router. No luck.
My router is a Linksys EA7300. What can I do besides replace my router? Its a powerful router but is very locked down, settings wise, with no custom firmwares like WRT. I'm pretty much stuck with it. It has no advanced options to dig through...
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Check if wifi and bluetooth scanning is on under location settings. If so, disable them at once
avid_droid said:
Do you have Google pay? I was on 10.3.1 and had Google pay activated so location history was always on to have it work. That totally killed my battery, I'm talking insane amounts of drain. I'm back to TMobile 10.0.2 and turned that off and have most of my apps optimized. Also I installed GMS doze through magisk and I'm getting decent battery life. My WiFi is on 24/7,data always enabled, allow location to some apps while using and everything is fine.
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I never use Google Pay and I always disable that app. I cant even use it if I wanted because it requires a secured lockscreen, which I dont want. Do I need to do more than just disable the app? Also the NoLimits xXx Magisk mod included that GMS doze function and that didnt cure the issue.
amirage said:
Check if wifi and bluetooth scanning is on under location settings. If so, disable them at once
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Those are always off. I see no use for them to be on. GPS always works fine without them.
Mozgus said:
I never use Google Pay and I always disable that app. I cant even use it if I wanted because it requires a secured lockscreen, which I dont want. Do I need to do more than just disable the app? Also the NoLimits xXx Magisk mod included that GMS doze function and that didnt cure the issue.
Those are always off. I see no use for them to be on. GPS always works fine without them.
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If you are rooted, I'd suggest downloading betterbatterystats app. This would show the exact app that's the culprit.
amirage said:
If you are rooted, I'd suggest downloading betterbatterystats app. This would show the exact app that's the culprit.
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Already did that for a couple nights. It did not. No apps were guilty of anything, just like every other battery monitor said. App usages were like 1 or 2% and in no way added up to 40% loss overnight.
Mozgus said:
Already did that for a couple nights. It did not. No apps were guilty of anything, just like every other battery monitor said. App usages were like 1 or 2% and in no way added up to 40% loss overnight.
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Did you check partial wakelocks/ kernel wakelocks section in the app? It may not always be an app that may cause this...it could be a sensor or so. If everything is normal, I'd suggest installing a custom kernel of your choice and check for drains over 3 days..
amirage said:
Did you check partial wakelocks/ kernel wakelocks section in the app? It may not always be an app that may cause this...it could be a sensor or so. If everything is normal, I'd suggest installing a custom kernel of your choice and check for drains over 3 days..
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Yes at the time I looked at every line of data it gave. Some wakelock entries had 400-1000 instances in 8 hours of sleeping, but I was googling them as keywords and was finding absolutely nothing useful. As usual, I was the only human being on earth with a technical issue. I always seem to be patient zero for this kind of crap.
I guess I need to wipe my phone yet again, abandon stock and abandon bootloader lock. That will take my whole weekend up again. I just want a damn device I paid $550 to actually work.
I truly miss my first android. Ran 2.0. Flashing roms was easy. Everything just worked.
Edit: I completely switched routers and the result is the same after an hour. 5% drained in an hour literally just doing nothing.
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Yes at the time I looked at every line of data it gave. Some wakelock entries had 400-1000 instances in 8 hours of sleeping, but I was googling them as keywords and was finding absolutely nothing useful. As usual, I was the only human being on earth with a technical issue. I always seem to be patient zero for this kind of crap.
I guess I need to wipe my phone yet again, abandon stock and abandon bootloader lock. That will take my whole weekend up again. I just want a damn device I paid $550 to actually work.
I truly miss my first android. Ran 2.0. Flashing roms was easy. Everything just worked.
Edit: I completely switched routers and the result is the same after an hour. 5% drained in an hour literally just doing nothing.
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Dude Flash 9.5.13 for the time being! And See What Happens!
What OOS Version are you on?
aaryan45 said:
Dude Flash 9.5.13 for the time being! And See What Happens!
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Any indication that this would be worth doing? I dunno about downgrading firmware. Can that also be done by just flashing with MSMDownloadTool?
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
What OOS Version are you on?
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10.3.1. Newest Global/US
I added pictures to show what I am talking about. Here's last night.
https://i.imgur.com/gHNoyzv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OahPtJq.jpg
Mozgus said:
Yes at the time I looked at every line of data it gave. Some wakelock entries had 400-1000 instances in 8 hours of sleeping, but I was googling them as keywords and was finding absolutely nothing useful. As usual, I was the only human being on earth with a technical issue. I always seem to be patient zero for this kind of crap.
I guess I need to wipe my phone yet again, abandon stock and abandon bootloader lock. That will take my whole weekend up again. I just want a damn device I paid $550 to actually work.
I truly miss my first android. Ran 2.0. Flashing roms was easy. Everything just worked.
Edit: I completely switched routers and the result is the same after an hour. 5% drained in an hour literally just doing nothing.
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It seems there's some sensor that's running rogue in your phone which is why your settings is the top draining app. Are you rooted? If aren't, I'd suggest rooting and then installing betterbatterystats (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats) and checking what app/ setting is screwing with your battery. For all you know, you may have a broken sensor/ hardware. If so, the best solution is to RMA your device
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Mozgus said:
Any indication that this would be worth doing? I dunno about downgrading firmware. Can that also be done by just flashing with MSMDownloadTool?
10.3.1. Newest Global/US
I added pictures to show what I am talking about. Here's last night.
https://i.imgur.com/gHNoyzv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OahPtJq.jpg
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Can you stop VoWifi? I feel this is the issue
Mozgus said:
Any indication that this would be worth doing? I dunno about downgrading firmware. Can that also be done by just flashing with MSMDownloadTool?
10.3.1. Newest Global/US
I added pictures to show what I am talking about. Here's last night.
https://i.imgur.com/gHNoyzv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OahPtJq.jpg
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I went back from the 10.3.1/10.0.4 Update because of to much drain and heating and it is so much better now with the 10.3.0/10.0.3 Update
Hirs_E_Fruit said:
I went back from the 10.3.1/10.0.4 Update because of to much drain and heating and it is so much better now with the 10.3.0/10.0.3 Update
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Um, I've had this issue from day one of owning the phone on Android 9.0. So that answers that. I will not be downgrading.
amirage said:
Can you stop VoWifi? I feel this is the issue
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Ok...I will try turning off voice over wifi. I cant imagine how that would be a drain when I'm not making calls while I sleep though...
Edit: Tried it. Still drained 2% per hour, which is about the best I've ever gotten with wifi on, so it probably didnt have an impact. I tend to have 1 night or so a week where it decides to drain 2%/h instead of 4%/h. This was likely another one of those nights.
Do you use Tasker?
In my case the Tasker's location triggered profile, caused the battery drain.
eyalsa said:
Do you use Tasker?
In my case the Tasker's location triggered profile, caused the battery drain.
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I've never used Tasker. Also I have gone through all permissions for all apps and made sure nothing has access to such things that arent absolutely needed.
OnePlus support got back to me and had me try Safe Mode. Didn't know this existed. Hold your power button then hold Power Off selection until a safe mode popup shows. So I did that, turned off airplane mode, turned on wifi. Let it sit and it would seem it drained only 1% over 3 hours, which is great, so I am stumped once again. I wonder if there is some setting in my google account that is the culprit here. Maybe I should reset the phone again, get past the setup pages, but NOT log into a google account, and see how the battery does on wifi then.
Mozgus said:
OnePlus support got back to me and had me try Safe Mode. Didn't know this existed. Hold your power button then hold Power Off selection until a safe mode popup shows. So I did that, turned off airplane mode, turned on wifi. Let it sit and it would seem it drained only 1% over 3 hours, which is great, so I am stumped once again. I wonder if there is some setting in my google account that is the culprit here. Maybe I should reset the phone again, get past the setup pages, but NOT log into a google account, and see how the battery does on wifi then.
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If it's something to do with your google account, you should google play services as the top draining app. I really think you need to betterbatterystats (BBS) to really see what's screwing with your battery. AccubatteryPro doesn't really give as detailed picture as BBS.
Mozgus said:
I've been googling this issue for 3 months now. The battery drain while the phone is asleep is outrageous from day 1 of owning it. Most nights Accubattery shows a loss of 2 to 5% per hour while screen is off, and usually like 93% of the screen off time is in deep sleep. The drain should be 0.5% at most.
I confirmed that battery saving mode cures the issue. I have now confirmed that simply turning off wifi cures the issue. I'm practically certain that Wifi is the cause. BUT WHY?
I have tried flashing the NoLimits xXx Magisk mod, and have tried other custom ROMs and this issue persists. I have even completely reflashed back to stock using the unbrick procedure with the MSMDownloadTool.exe. We can rule out all possible custom tweaks. This phone is stock and it's doing this.
I've tried a variety of settings people have mentioned like turning off printer service, and a couple settings in Dev Options like App Wifi Multi Broadcast Filter. I've enabled the same filter on my router. No luck.
My router is a Linksys EA7300. What can I do besides replace my router? Its a powerful router but is very locked down, settings wise, with no custom firmwares like WRT. I'm pretty much stuck with it. It has no advanced options to dig through...
Edit: Well I swapped routers entirely and I can already tell this is draining just as fast when connected to it. Its just the Wifi driver entirely to blame.
Here's last night.
https://i.imgur.com/gHNoyzv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OahPtJq.jpg
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I have the exact issue I have tried all the things you have and what had been suggested and more but nothing seems to work
Take a look at this, after this tip my idle drain got a major improvement.just remember to restart after you apply the tip.Read the whole thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
reza6d said:
Take a look at this, after this tip my idle drain got a major improvement.just remember to restart after you apply the tip.Read the whole thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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Tried that weeks ago. Also enabled the same setting on my router itself. No difference.