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I have searched and search and all I have found in DHD and Inspire forums is that the HTC site says it does and some say "It does." These answers do not greatly expound upon the degree of noise cancellation or when it is used. Can anyone give specifics as in does it use it for music calls what? and are there any settings that an app could enable as I have found nothing in the stock settings menu on any ROM I have used.
Thanks guys!
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I have searched and search and all I have found in DHD and Inspire forums is that the HTC site says it does and some say "It does." These answers do not greatly expound upon the degree of noise cancellation or when it is used. Can anyone give specifics as in does it use it for music calls what? and are there any settings that an app could enable as I have found nothing in the stock settings menu on any ROM I have used.
Thanks guys!
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This is how it's supposed to work: there are 2 microphones on the Inspire - one near your mouth (bottom of phone) and one away from your mouth (top back of phone near the LED flash). When you're talking on a phone call, naturally the mic at the bottom of the phone is the one recording your voice because it is much closer to your mouth than the other mic (we are talking about a normal phone call here, not a speakerphone call). The other microphone (at the top of the phone) listens for noise that is not associated with the person talking. An example of this would be road noise in a moving car. The phone has an algorithm that generates a realtime fingerprint of the noise, and then it produces a sound wave that is 180 degrees out of phase with that sound. This "anti-sound' is combined into the audio stream that reaches the person on the other end of the phone call. The net effect is this out-of-phase sound will cancel out or reduce the original sound, so that the person at the other end of the phone call hears a reduced level of background noise. This process works best with a constant noise source - such as road noise or the constant engine noise your hear on an airliner. Dogs barking or kids screaming in the background often do not get filtered effectively, because the phone doesn't have time to generate the out-of-phase sound for stuff that changes frequency and pitch rapidly.
Now in real world usage, I haven't seen a lot of discussion in the Inspire section of people testing this feature to see if it really works. This line in the build.prop file is supposed to enable/disable the noise cancellation feature:
media.a1026.enableA1026=1 (1=enabled, 0=disabled)
and this line may be involved as well:
htc.audio.hac.enable=1
There is some evidence that setting one of both of these lines to "1" can cause battery drain in some ROMs which is why CM7 leaves them at 0. I don't run any Sense ROMs so I don't know what they've got these settings at.
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This is how it's supposed to work: there are 2 microphones on the Inspire - one near your mouth (bottom of phone) and one away from your mouth (top back of phone near the LED flash). When you're talking on a phone call, naturally the mic at the bottom of the phone is the one recording your voice because it is much closer to your mouth than the other mic (we are talking about a normal phone call here, not a speakerphone call). The other microphone (at the top of the phone) listens for noise that is not associated with the person talking. An example of this would be road noise in a moving car. The phone has an algorithm that generates a realtime fingerprint of the noise, and then it produces a sound wave that is 180 degrees out of phase with that sound. This "anti-sound' is combined into the audio stream that reaches the person on the other end of the phone call. The net effect is this out-of-phase sound will cancel out or reduce the original sound, so that the person at the other end of the phone call hears a reduced level of background noise. This process works best with a constant noise source - such as road noise or the constant engine noise your hear on an airliner. Dogs barking or kids screaming in the background often do not get filtered effectively, because the phone doesn't have time to generate the out-of-phase sound for stuff that changes frequency and pitch rapidly.
Now in real world usage, I haven't seen a lot of discussion in the Inspire section of people testing this feature to see if it really works. This line in the build.prop file is supposed to enable/disable the noise cancellation feature:
media.a1026.enableA1026=1 (1=enabled, 0=disabled)
and this line may be involved as well:
htc.audio.hac.enable=1
There is some evidence that setting one of both of these lines to "1" can cause battery drain in some ROMs which is why CM7 leaves them at 0. I don't run any Sense ROMs so I don't know what they've got these settings at.
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Thanks for the reply! I understood the concepts of noise cancellation and the like but was unaware of where the settings were! and also... Does this cancellation happen during music playback or just calls?
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Thanks for the reply! I understood the concepts of noise cancellation and the like but was unaware of where the settings were! and also... Does this cancellation happen during music playback or just calls?
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No it doesn't affect music playback. It only works on the input (microphone) side.
So there is no way to enable it for noise cancellation while listening to music or anything of the like? I know battery drain would greatly increase, but that's what external batteries are for!
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So there is no way to enable it for noise cancellation while listening to music or anything of the like? I know battery drain would greatly increase, but that's what external batteries are for!
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What kind of noise are you hearing in your music?
None associated with the music. I was referring to blocking the outside noises some as it does in calls. Like road noise from a car, etc. I didn't know if that was possible or not with this phone.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App
None associated with the music. I was referring to blocking the outside noises some as it does in calls. Like road noise from a car, etc. I didn't know if that was possible or not with this phone.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App
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Oh I see. No this is not possible with the phone. I haven't seen this feature on any phone. You'll have to get noise cancelling headphones.
Thank you very much my good sir!
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Hi all,
Just love the Sensation - but some of the enhancements I have found also have a sting in the tail. Anyone give me any pointers for these?
When riding my motorcycle, I have the Sensation plugged in to crash helmet headset. Found "Not Another Call Manager" to give me phone auto-answer. Normally I have my music on, and when a call comes in it gets auto-answered. Every thing fine - yes, really fine.
Small problem is that when I get kitted up, I turn on the music and slip the phone in my breast pocket. Sometimes as I slip it in, the phone decides to redial the last number, alternatives are music switching off or selecting the next track.
I understand the music oddities - swipe left/right gets you next track and also pause is available - just odd that it does this with the screen turned off. But I don't understand where the phone comes in - I can't find anywhere that you can just swipe the screen in any particular direction to get last number re-dial.
I have now bought a leather wallet to put the sensation in whilst riding, but it didn't stop a "pocket call" first thing this morning, even through the sensitivity seems to be greatly reduced.
All comments, help and guidance welcomed
MrSums
Check in the settings to see if something is enabled that would change the track if you shake the phone.
That seems to be the most likely culprit.
Mrsums said:
Hi all,
Just love the Sensation - but some of the enhancements I have found also have a sting in the tail. Anyone give me any pointers for these?
When riding my motorcycle, I have the Sensation plugged in to crash helmet headset. Found "Not Another Call Manager" to give me phone auto-answer. Normally I have my music on, and when a call comes in it gets auto-answered. Every thing fine - yes, really fine.
Small problem is that when I get kitted up, I turn on the music and slip the phone in my breast pocket. Sometimes as I slip it in, the phone decides to redial the last number, alternatives are music switching off or selecting the next track.
I understand the music oddities - swipe left/right gets you next track and also pause is available - just odd that it does this with the screen turned off. But I don't understand where the phone comes in - I can't find anywhere that you can just swipe the screen in any particular direction to get last number re-dial.
I have now bought a leather wallet to put the sensation in whilst riding, but it didn't stop a "pocket call" first thing this morning, even through the sensitivity seems to be greatly reduced.
All comments, help and guidance welcomed
MrSums
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i have the exact same problem when riding my bike. the issue is that the phone will pickup the headset connection and freak the **** out and start auto dialing. Mine is worse, it will call and hang up > 3 secs of music > call and hang up > 3 seconds of the next track > loop like this till I pull over and unplug my headset.
The issue is with the headphone jack and somehow its sensing commands as if you have a remote plugged into the line.
i haven't found a way to stop it. Somedays i get by with no problems, while others I will have to pull over 2-3 times on the way to my destination
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i have the exact same problem when riding my bike. the issue is that the phone will pickup the headset connection and freak the **** out and start auto dialing. Mine is worse, it will call and hang up > 3 secs of music > call and hang up > 3 seconds of the next track > loop like this till I pull over and unplug my headset.
The issue is with the headphone jack and somehow its sensing commands as if you have a remote plugged into the line.
i haven't found a way to stop it. Somedays i get by with no problems, while others I will have to pull over 2-3 times on the way to my destination
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Great call! I have had this a few times too, but didn't realise it was the jack connector - I thought it was the act of slipping it into the pocket. Makes a lot of sense as when I use my bluetooth headset (not configured for the bike) everything works perfectly. May have to consider going BT on the bike.
However, once I am up and running I don't think it happens at all.
I have this problem but I don't ride a motorbike - I just get it when I'm walking along with the phone in my trouser pocket.
Hoping someone might have a tweak to make this work... When I use my phone in my car I like to use a voice action app (AVX) or sometimes good ol' Google Voice Search. with my old Dinc, it was great at picking up my voice even with the radio on and the a/c blasting.
However, on the S3, the mic seems to pick up the ambient noise (even if it's just the a/c on low or the car running) and doesn't do so well at picking up my voice. Sometimes it will get my voice command but will take forever to execute it because even after i stop talking it keeps listening because it's picking up the ambient sounds. Other times, it only picks up the ambient sounds and doesn't get my voice at all.
Since driving is probably the one time when a voice action app is actually needed, I'm hoping there's a setting or something that can help this. Or perhaps it's just one of those flaws in an otherwise great phone? Like I said my 2 1/2 year old Dinc did a great job of picking up my voice so it's sad to see such a cutting edge phone doing such a horrible job at it.
The weird thing is the phone has no problem hearing my voice commands over the ringtone (reject/answer) or over my music playing (stop, next, etc) so it seems like maybe the noise cancellation feature just isn't starting up like it should when a voice actions app like voice search is listening...
Anyone else notice this? Anyone have any ideas or tweaks to improve it?
Thanks for the help!
Has anyone successfully used the Moto Hint with the 2014 Moto X?
I have a 2014 VZW Moto X and just got my Moto Hint this past Tuesday. When I tap the talk button on the Hint or say my launch phrase, Moto Voice launches but doesn't pick up any of my commands.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Mike
Turns out the Hint has a problem with the microphones, caveat emptor, I'm returning mine.
MIne works fine. Did you check Playstore to ensure you have latest version of Motovoice installed? Have to wait for beep after saying custom trigger phrase (or pushing button) prior to speaking.
Thanks gadgetg.
When I go to Play Store I see no option to update or uninstall, my moto voice version is 6.1.10.1, I'm not sure if that's the latest version or not.
I don't know if I have a defective unit or what, but no one can hear me unless I shout really loudly when using the Hint. In addition, both the phone and the Hint play music when I'm using Pandora...doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose of the Hint?
Mine streams pandora fine to Hint and no issues with Motovoice. Maybe A2DP didn't pair right?
I'd recommend following from user guide:
1. Put Hint in ear and it will connect to phone. Then press and hold MFB on Hint for 10 seconds (should hear an initial beep and after ~10 seconds two beeps). This will put you in settings menu. Press MFB after option 1 to reset device.
2. Once reset, replace Hint in case
3. In phone's setting menu, Remove Moto Hint from bluetooth menu
4. Open Motovoice and retrain phrase in a very quiet environment
5. Then remove Hint from case and repair to phone -- accept all queries. In bluetooth settings menu when you click on Moto Hint both the Phone Audio and Media Audio should be checked.
6. Press MFB and select Motovoice as default if asked.
7. Lastly, make sure the two microphones in Hint are pointing to your mouth and not your eyes when in your ear. You may have to have someone take a picture to make sure . I did this. You may have to consciously rotate the back of Hint up a bit so it sits right in ear. I noticed this in user guide. Still comfortable, but improves microphone response immensely.
If that doesn't work, sounds like something is wrong with the Hint as mine works great.
Thanks gadget. I reset the Hint before but I did not retrain the phrase. I'll try that and will report my findings.
gadget. Thanks again for your help. I can't believe it buy it was the positioning of the microphones, they have to follow a straight line to your mouth; any deviation and my device would not work.
Now the question is how to get the Hint talking to me. I asked it a math equation and it launched calculator, but didn't read off the answer. Is there a way I can get the phone/Hint to read off the responses to my queries?
Thanks again, you're a life saver!
Mike,
Try using the phrase "How tall is the Eiffel Tower". After google looks up answer it will tell you the response. If you aren't hearing anything during the response then turn up the volume on the phone WHILE IT IS PLAYING BACK the response "The Eiffel Tower is 986 feet tall" and you will hear it. Not all questions have an answer, but I know this one does so try it... Or "What's the weather in Miami..." is another good one.
Also, note that you can use your trigger phrase (or MFB) to activate Motovoice and then say "Talk to Me" and then all incoming texts will be read out to you through the hint for the time period it is active.
Check out more detailed review I came across tonight here: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/03/moto-hint-overview-and-tour/
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3ffevpNHw
Hope this is helpful
I had a similar problem. I called Moto. After the 4th call finally talked to someone who spoke English.....
Anyway... I had to reset my phone, not the hint to factory settings, and now it works as advertised and I love it. Do not love having to factory reset though
Well looks like I need to return mine . No one can hear me when I talk through my Hint, it's as if the first split seconds of my voice is cut off. The microphone positioning is correct and I'd rather not reset my phone for this. I'll stick with my old LG HBS700 as it can do virtually everything the Hint does, just not always listening.
I'm starting to think I'm going to return mine. It just seems no matter how hard I try, it just isn't consistent. Even when I check a thousand times to see if the microphone is aimed correctly.
I have no problems with calls or the call volume. My issue is with the volume while streaming is very low. It has to be over 50% to be able to hear and close to 100% if it's noisy. It also sounds a bit tinny but I'm guessing that's just because of how small the speaker is.
I paired the hint with my Moto X 2013 and no matter what I've tried it doesn's activate with 'OK Google Now'. If I press the hint I get a prompt to say a command but I thought this was supposed to listen all the time without intervention?
Marlon41 said:
I paired the hint with my Moto X 2013 and no matter what I've tried it doesn's activate with 'OK Google Now'. If I press the hint I get a prompt to say a command but I thought this was supposed to listen all the time without intervention?
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On the actual Motorola support forums they're saying that always listening mode only works with 2014 phones right now. They say they hope to bring it to other models but have no time-line.
I got my hint today and it looks like it's going back tomorrow. I'd like to turn off most of the settings because I don't have a Motorola phone but it won't enter the settings mode by touch and hold for 8 - 10 seconds or anywhere around that.
Additionally, although in call volume is good, the streaming volume is far to low even with the phone cranked up to full volume and although my expectations for in call audio quality for the distant party were relatively low, it doesn't seem adequate to carry on much of a conversation.
I'm using hint with x 2013, is there a way to make all the prompts the same as moto voice? The hint prompts are very low compared to the moto voice prompts.
A quick blow on top mic fixed mine.
Anyone have experience with the version 2 Moto Hint? They're going for quite cheap right now and I'm hoping Motorola fixed all of the issues from the first gen.
I posted this over on the Motorola forums, but the general chatter around the Hint has gone pretty quiet on the internet which is a shame...
A US friend recently bought me a 2nd gen Moto Hint on his visit to the UK and I've got to say that the microphone
performance is really erratic. I did loads of testing and searching on the internet in case the problems were:
a) Related to the Nexus 5 I was using
b) Related to a faulty unit
c) Related to me not using the correct "gel" or positioning it in my ear correctly.
After a LOT of digging and reading the few reviews out there, I found that in quite a high proportion of the reviews I did eventually find, people mentioned about how others heard them; that people speaking into the Hint came across as quite faint and distant - exactly the problems I was getting.
A bit more digging and testing later, and I managed to eliminate both a) & b) from the equation... using a really crude test
involving a Bluetooth recorder app, I uncovered the following (Hope this helps!):
Option1.
Believe it or not, I can get consistent clear audio recorded - and subsequently call quality where others can hear me
very clearly if I... Take the Hint out of my ear and BLOW HARD into the front mic before quickly putting it back on!! I know it sounds crazy, but every time I do this, the Hint's mic works flawlessly for me (I should add, there is no debris or or anything else blocking the hole to actually be cleared and my ears are clean )
And this trick works whatever the orientation of the Hint in your ear is.. it can be positioned so the mic is level with your eyes, pointing a bit further down towards your mouth, whatever... this to me, completely dispells any previous info about rotational position in your ear being critical to mic's pick up (no consumer device suitable for everyday use should be that sensitive to position IMHO)
FYI, an audio engineer friend of mine thinks the sudden burst of white noise caused by blowing into the mic, might re-set the noise cancelling audio sampling start up processes but without pulling the thing apart and reverse engineering its code, they're at a complete loss to comprehensively explain why this should work..
FYI 2, The same audio engineer friend thinks the noise cancelling algorithms are broken in some way which is the root cause of the mic pick up being so poor out of the box, and could be fixed with a software update. They've got an older Moto Elite Sliver with Mics positioned no closer to the mouth than the Hint and the mic audio quality in comparison is damned good without having to resort to tricks..
Option 2. A bit more fiddly but also do-able, is to hold your hand up around your ear "Secret Service Agent/FBI Agent" style. Don't actually touch the hint, just have a couple of fingers brushing against the top of your ear with your palm and wrist towards your mouth to help channel the audio from your mouth into the Hint's mic. YMMV and in someways, having to do this to get enough audio to the mic kinda defeats the purpose of having such a small Bluetooth earpiece - may as well hold your phone up to your ear instead!
Anyway, I hope my findings help someone who's had problems, might've left it in a drawer etc.
denenatse said:
A quick blow on top mic fixed mine.
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LoL, actually missed your post. Can you confirm if you also have to do a quick blow on the mics regularly/semi regularly, to ensure voice pick up?
When you call granny, does she keep saying "Huh?! Wut?!" or does the conversation flow pretty well? Rate this thread to express how you feel about the Xiaomi Redmi Note 7's call quality. A higher rating indicates that calls are clear and crisp, and that regardless of background noise, you can hear the other party clearly (and with ample volume) and they can hear you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Works great, even on speaker.
Earspeaker has loud, full sound. Speaker phone is loud and clear as well with good mid-range.
Very good sound for a mid-range phone
The Call Quality is way below abysmal at best!
Hello gents
Just a quick review to report some findings for MIUI_LAVENDEREEAGlobal_V11.0.4.0.PFGEUXM_:
It takes only a quick phone call to realise that:
The ring volume, the notifications volume and the in-call volume are extremely low.
Trying to boost the volume for the in-call volume does ABSOLUTELY nothing at all to improve the situation.
Assuming you are in a PERFECTLY QUIET, NOISE INSULATED OFFICE ROOM, then, yes you can have a conversation with the other person on the other.
However, the moment you set foot outside that becomes impossible.
You can reproduce the bug by following these steps:
Step one: Dial a contact's number (that is to say call someone using THE PHONE and not any of the VOIP apps)
Step two: start the conversation
Step three: step outside on a noisy street and experience your awfully low volume for in call
Step four: have the other person call you or text you on a moderately noisy street ,and then on a busy, noisy street (like those in UK) where noise levels exceeds 60-70 decibels on a daily basis.
Step five: Finally realise how inadequately low the volume is indeed.
Step six: Realize you have bought a pretty much useless device which is pretty much unusable when you are trying to use it a s PHONE and not to catch bloody Pokémons or play Angry Birds.
Expected results when receiving a phone call: Have a clear and loud ring volume at minimum 85dB -100 dB which is the necessary value to hear the incoming call ring when the phone call take place on the street.
Expected results when making a phone call: Have a clear and loud volume for STREAM_VOICE_CALL the at minimum 85dB -100 dB which is the necessary value to hear the other person when the phone call take place on the street
Actual results: The values for STREAM_VOICE_CALL ,STREAM_RING,STREAM_NOTIFICATION (That is to say the phone call volume ,the phone ring, and the notification volume) are WAY BELOW the EU-wide safety limit on volume levels of 85dB .
Citties are noisier than the quiet office rooms. For example in London where I live the noise levels exceed 60 decibels ON A DAILY BASIS.
Therefore the current settings are wrong.
I tried each and every OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL roms out-there and they are all plagued by the same problem.
These settings can be found across Chinese ,Indian, European, Global and basically, every other roms produced by Xiaomi.
It is clear the developers have not done their job properly and they have not tested the phone IN REAL LIFE CONDITIONS as they should have been doing it.
Coming from my old Sony Xperia SP where the ring volume , the notification volumes and the incall volume was good enough you could use the phone on the street this was a shock for me.
All those reviews rating the Xiaomi as good they are either biased or the guys did a sloppy job in reviewing the phone.
Kind Regards
Wow sorry to hear your experience with it is this bad.
Definitely return your phone or have it serviced.
Sounds defective
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Hello gents
Just a quick review to report some findings for MIUI_LAVENDEREEAGlobal_V11.0.4.0.PFGEUXM_:
It takes only a quick phone call to realise that:
The ring volume, the notifications volume and the in-call volume are extremely low.
Trying to boost the volume for the in-call volume does ABSOLUTELY nothing at all to improve the situation.
Assuming you are in a PERFECTLY QUIET, NOISE INSULATED OFFICE ROOM, then, yes you can have a conversation with the other person on the other.
However, the moment you set foot outside that becomes impossible.
You can reproduce the bug by following these steps:
Step one: Dial a contact's number (that is to say call someone using THE PHONE and not any of the VOIP apps)
Step two: start the conversation
Step three: step outside on a noisy street and experience your awfully low volume for in call
Step four: have the other person call you or text you on a moderately noisy street ,and then on a busy, noisy street (like those in UK) where noise levels exceeds 60-70 decibels on a daily basis.
Step five: Finally realise how inadequately low the volume is indeed.
Step six: Realize you have bought a pretty much useless device which is pretty much unusable when you are trying to use it a s PHONE and not to catch bloody Pokémons or play Angry Birds.
Expected results when receiving a phone call: Have a clear and loud ring volume at minimum 85dB -100 dB which is the necessary value to hear the incoming call ring when the phone call take place on the street.
Expected results when making a phone call: Have a clear and loud volume for STREAM_VOICE_CALL the at minimum 85dB -100 dB which is the necessary value to hear the other person when the phone call take place on the street
Actual results: The values for STREAM_VOICE_CALL ,STREAM_RING,STREAM_NOTIFICATION (That is to say the phone call volume ,the phone ring, and the notification volume) are WAY BELOW the EU-wide safety limit on volume levels of 85dB .
Citties are noisier than the quiet office rooms. For example in London where I live the noise levels exceed 60 decibels ON A DAILY BASIS.
Therefore the current settings are wrong.
I tried each and every OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL roms out-there and they are all plagued by the same problem.
These settings can be found across Chinese ,Indian, European, Global and basically, every other roms produced by Xiaomi.
It is clear the developers have not done their job properly and they have not tested the phone IN REAL LIFE CONDITIONS as they should have been doing it.
Coming from my old Sony Xperia SP where the ring volume , the notification volumes and the incall volume was good enough you could use the phone on the street this was a shock for me.
All those reviews rating the Xiaomi as good they are either biased or the guys did a sloppy job in reviewing the phone.
Kind Regards
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That's the thing buddy, it's not. It's brand new ,3 months old. The phone itself is amazing... The hardware , decent, price, incredibly cheap by UK standards... When I flash a custom image the incall volume is acceptable. It's just the sloppy job done by the MIUI develeopers.
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Wow sorry to hear your experience with it is this bad.
Definitely return your phone or have it serviced.
Sounds defective
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That's the thing buddy, it's not. It's brand new ,3 months old. The phone itself is amazing... The hardware , decent, price, incredibly cheap by UK standards... When I flash a custom image the incall volume is acceptable. It's just the sloppy job done by the MIUI develeopers.
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Lol. I've having the complete opposite experience. Phone calls and volume in general are pretty good on stock, then signal strength and notifications vol went ape **** on custom Q roms (just the minimal protect rom worked perfectly) and kind of tricky on other P roms.
There's something weird about redmi kernels, not the OS at itself. But it sound like you have a damaged phone. Try to return it or send it to service. ?
sound and speaker is perfect on this phone, some roms have issues but stock miui is perfect.
Unfortunately,i don't have anymore a granny but for all other, the ringtone ,the notifications and speaker are loud and clear
What rom version are you on? EEA, Global, India, China? Xiaomi EU (which is based on the Chinese version) ?
The ringtone the notifications and the in-call volume are all low. The call quality on all these roms is abysmal.
Unless you install a custom ringtone and notification sound designed to be loud the default ones are ridiculously low.
Not only that but the "Volume Booster" does nothing at all to boost the volume.
Somebody messed up big time.
I have tried to mod the mixer path files. Not much difference but it does make it slightly louder. Not as loud as it should have been after manually altering the volume curves for the attenuation (the max value was set to 15000 Millibels which should have popped up the volumes to 150 dB) . All the other settings done in the mixer path files barely had an impact (not surprisingly since Xiaomi hardcoded capped values for incall , notification and ring streams in the source code of the libraries and kernel i think)
The EU laws allows a maximum of 85dB , but these guys they took it on themselves to lower the values WAAAAAY BELOW that.
When you are watching a movie , listening to audio-video content like YouTube and so on, the speakers are OK.
When it comes to using the phone AS A PHONE making phone calls and receiving phone calls and text messages using the phone and messaging function (NOT VIA THE VOIP apps) the phone is absolute crap.
Let me put it this way:
My Nokia Nokia 3210 has such a loud incall volume that if i pop up the volume to the max , people standing 3 meters away from me can hear the other person talking to me.
When it comes to ring tone for the incoming calls and the notification sound for the incoming messages, I can hear that bugger from 30 meters away.
There is no way in the hell you can not hear a Nokia 3210 running on 1999 primitive technology.
Xiaomi really dropped the ball on this one and their devs effed up big time.
They could not be bothered to test the phone in REAL LIFE CONDITIONS and as a result, in noisy cities like London whilst out on the street you end up not hearing incoming phone calls , text messages and so on.
If left with the default settings and default ringtones you might as well be hearing impaired because it makes no difference whatsoever.
Let me put it this way so young guys can understand what i mean:
A Nokia 3210 running on 1999 technology with a basic, primitive operating systems and PRIMITIVE HARDWARE for speakers and with only a tiny fraction of the Xiaomi's processing power HAS BETTER incall quality than Xiaomi's phones .
Is not a hardware problem but a deliberate handicapping move designed to limit the performance of it audio output.
And they took it way too far. Now the phone is so handicapped that you can only use it to catch pokemons or watch youtube videos.
When it comes about making and receiving phone calls, that is to say , using the phone as a phone... You are better off with a Nokia 3210.
So yeah, there's that.
An amazing phone with amazing hardware ruined by poor coding and devs laziness (or their inability of understanding that in these times and age there are still people out there who would like to use the phone as a phone )
Regards
fjojofr said:
Unfortunately,i don't have anymore a granny but for all other, the ringtone ,the notifications and speaker are loud and clear
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sometimes the network goes away.sound cuts when talking on the phone
Just six months old and my call volume has gone down so low that, any call that comes, I have to use the speaker! It's very inconvenient using this method! I did a factory-reset, but to no avail.
kooyeb said:
Just six months old and my call volume has gone down so low that, any call that comes, I have to use the speaker! It's very inconvenient using this method! I did a factory-reset, but to no avail.
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Your ear speaker may be defective.
Take it to the Xiaomi service center for warranty service.
If you're skilled in phone repair, Witrigs sells them for $3.50
Than try Redmi 4X it's more bigger crap than Redmi Note 7
Than try Redmi 4X it's more bigger crap than Redmi Note 7 (talking about call notification and messages also buzzer is crappy
gorillanobka said:
What rom version are you on? EEA, Global, India, China? Xiaomi EU (which is based on the Chinese version) ?
The ringtone the notifications and the in-call volume are all low. The call quality on all these roms is abysmal.
Unless you install a custom ringtone and notification sound designed to be loud the default ones are ridiculously low.
Not only that but the "Volume Booster" does nothing at all to boost the volume.
Somebody messed up big time.
I have tried to mod the mixer path files. Not much difference but it does make it slightly louder. Not as loud as it should have been after manually altering the volume curves for the attenuation (the max value was set to 15000 Millibels which should have popped up the volumes to 150 dB) . All the other settings done in the mixer path files barely had an impact (not surprisingly since Xiaomi hardcoded capped values for incall , notification and ring streams in the source code of the libraries and kernel i think)
The EU laws allows a maximum of 85dB , but these guys they took it on themselves to lower the values WAAAAAY BELOW that.
When you are watching a movie , listening to audio-video content like YouTube and so on, the speakers are OK.
When it comes to using the phone AS A PHONE making phone calls and receiving phone calls and text messages using the phone and messaging function (NOT VIA THE VOIP apps) the phone is absolute crap.
Let me put it this way:
My Nokia Nokia 3210 has such a loud incall volume that if i pop up the volume to the max , people standing 3 meters away from me can hear the other person talking to me.
When it comes to ring tone for the incoming calls and the notification sound for the incoming messages, I can hear that bugger from 30 meters away.
There is no way in the hell you can not hear a Nokia 3210 running on 1999 primitive technology.
Xiaomi really dropped the ball on this one and their devs effed up big time.
They could not be bothered to test the phone in REAL LIFE CONDITIONS and as a result, in noisy cities like London whilst out on the street you end up not hearing incoming phone calls , text messages and so on.
If left with the default settings and default ringtones you might as well be hearing impaired because it makes no difference whatsoever.
Let me put it this way so young guys can understand what i mean:
A Nokia 3210 running on 1999 technology with a basic, primitive operating systems and PRIMITIVE HARDWARE for speakers and with only a tiny fraction of the Xiaomi's processing power HAS BETTER incall quality than Xiaomi's phones .
Is not a hardware problem but a deliberate handicapping move designed to limit the performance of it audio output.
And they took it way too far. Now the phone is so handicapped that you can only use it to catch pokemons or watch youtube videos.
When it comes about making and receiving phone calls, that is to say , using the phone as a phone... You are better off with a Nokia 3210.
So yeah, there's that.
An amazing phone with amazing hardware ruined by poor coding and devs laziness (or their inability of understanding that in these times and age there are still people out there who would like to use the phone as a phone )
Regards
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Great call quality and the speakers are very good I already using this phone and its awesome Highly recommended
alguns usuarios reclamam que é muito baixa
How i can only boost earpiece in-call volume manual with edit vendor/etc/mixer_paths.xml, what i need to do ?
Or another solution?
On lineage os 17.1 in-call volume is very low.