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If any one is interested, i know a couple of you may be very intersted !!
I found this link someone posted on need rom, from 4PDA site, for the s650, these roms are custom based from CN roms which include MIUI , LEWA and AOSP !!
EDIT 10 / 5 / 14: New roms have been added and updates to LEWA and MIUI, also a couple of ROW based roms in there too !!
EDIT 15 / 5 / 14: All roms confirmed to be working fully with dual sim !!
All seem to be good and working , i am still testing and have got stuck on AOSP, I love it !! It is smooth and fast,and for first release on all these roms extremely good with a very promising future !!!!
They are all in development stage still but, in particular the AOSP is particularly stable, the only fault seems to be notification light not working for missed calls and messages !!! MINIMAL PROBLEM !!!
If only i could join these forums to thank the guys for their hard work !!
Problem is the verification code to join, needs to be in Russian, so i can't !!!
Here is the link, ENJOY !!!!!
ALL LINKS FOR ROMS ARE OPEN TO GUEST USERS !!
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=567114
So far my impression of the AOSP is very good, the only slightly annoying thing is that after a long call the screen does not wake automatically, you must press the power button, otherwise really good !!!!
Just started testing LEWA and so far looks good, a couple of things to note:
After first boot leave it to settle for a few minutes and then reboot, if you don't a lot of the toggles in settings do not work !!!
Dual sim settings in main setting menu do not seem to work, i tried the sim in both sim 1 and sim 2 slots and they work as they should but i don't know about 2 sims together !! (TESTER NEEDED FOR THIS )
Will continue testing and move on to MIUI later , so more posts / issues and request for testers on dual sim use will follow !!
OK, so apart from the already mentioned issue with dual sim management, the LEWA rom is actually very good, everything seems to work and the interface is very clean and easy to use, with smooth graphics !
The MIUI rom also has the issue with dual sim management, it is not obvious if it works or not, the feature in settings only shows the card in use ( TESTER NEEDED TO TRY 2 SIMS ), otherwise works very well, the things i don't like so much are, trying to figure out the root manager ( seems to be on all MIUI roms ) and the annoying WI-FI only pop up everytime you try to download or if it thinks it is too big for data, which happens to be everything over about 2 mb !!!
The AOSP rom, seems to be working great except for notification LED not working and poor battery life, it seems that the dual sim function is OK, the warning is in notification drawer that no sim in slot 2 and each slot works individually ( TESTER NEEDED FOR 2 SIMS TOGETHER ) i am really hoping battery life will be fixed somewhere in development but it does seem to be a problem with AOSP roms specifically , so i am not optimistic !!
The AOSP is exactly as expected, pure android look and feel, very fast, light on the system and without all the overwhelming features of some roms, i do like it but battery drain is a real minus for me !!!
If you like MIUI roms and are used to the features, it is great if not i would try the LEWA rom for something similar to VIBEUI !! Go with the AOSP if you want simple, stock android, light on the system and very easy to use !!!!
thanks for the info. I do not have a backup phone so please let us know if dual sim is functional for the AOSP. I really hate the default ROW ROM.
It appears to be, the warning is there to the tell me that no card is insim2 slot and both slots work separately , I just have not tried both together !!! Worst case is going back to ROW if it doesn't work, bear in mind these are only first release customs so they should become more functional with development !!
The downside with AOSP is battery life, seems to drain twice as fast but seems to be a typical AOSP thing !!!
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It appears to be, the warning is there to the tell me that no card is insim2 slot and both slots work separately , I just have not tried both together !!! Worst case is going back to ROW if it doesn't work, bear in mind these are only first release customs so they should become more functional with development !!
The downside with AOSP is battery life, seems to drain twice as fast but seems to be a typical AOSP thing !!!
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Batter battery drain is a show stopper for me. My current Rom is fine with battery. I just want to run plain vanilla ROM. My gf doesn't need the extra crap they installed. I wish there was a Linux or Mac way of rooting. I don't run Windows, but if I have to dual boot, I guess I don't have a choice.
If there is flash tool for mac or linux you can actually load TWRP using flash tool and root through TWRP !??
Just make sure if you are with ROW download ROW recovery and CN for CN roms !!
Once you have chosen the scatter file in flash tool, tick DA DL ALL box at the top !
Click on the RECOVERY line, this will open up a window so that you can choose which recovery.
Choose the TWRP recovery you downloaded and then proceed with the flash procedure as normal.
Once finished reboot the phone.
Now power down
Now power on holding volume up and down together, release power button only on vibrate, this will boot recovery
You should see TWRP reovery, go to wipes / advanced wipe wipe cache and dalvik
Now go back to main menu and choose reboot, you should see a prompt that SUPERUSER IS NOT INSTALLED, JUST SLIDE THE BAR TO INSTALL
Now once the phone is rebooted you will see superuser icon on screen, click it and it will tell you to update, easiest is via play store ( make sure you added account ) , it will tell you upgrade success and tell you to update binary, do this too and now you are rooted
Awesome, hope the will be more progress on the AOSP rom.
Yeah, me too, i have been using it for a couple of days and it really is good, the battery does even out a bit after a couple of charges but not nearly as good as the battery life on stock Jelly bean rom, getting about 15-20%% less life !!
I have mentioned somewhere before that during 6 hours intense use on internet, testing GPS, bluetooth and downloading 2 rom zip files at 600mb each, on stock 4.2.2 rom still had about 50% left on battery but on this AOSP rom during exactly the same use it went down to 31% !!
Waiting for a 4.4.2 AOSP
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The 4.4.2. stock rom is still in development, so my guess is they are waiting for a more stable version to use for custom, it does take time and i honestly think there will be something by about July / August, provided everything goes well !!
Everything stable and working fine after a week using 1417 dev
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Is there an AOSP ROW?
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Hi bluerichblue. I know you've been around the block with the current released ROMs. I found out that ROW is required for other because of the different languages. I only need EN so I can install any ROM correct?
The original ROM I got for this unit had some anti-malware / AV installed which resulted the unit lagging. Especially when it lists the text messages and opening texts. I restore to the S650_S119_131014 form needrom and it had the stripped down ROM that only has a few 3rd party apps and GAPPS included. The S650_S119_131014 is very light weight and the battery lasts longer than a day for heavy texting and and ligh calls. I was impressed! The only problem I have with the S650_S119_131014 ROM is that it has some Chinese characters in the text app and a few other minor Chinese characters on a few other places. It's not a show stopper though.
have you encountered other custom ROMs that have all English in it?
Yes you can install any rom, if you are using flash tool it is a straight forward flash, if you use TWRP you must make sure that you have the corresponding recovery installed, that means if you want to go from CN to ROW you need ROW TWRP installed even on the CN rom !!
Also the same in reverse, if you want to go from ROW to CN you need to install CN recovery even on ROW rom to flash !!
The reason is the partitions are different, on ROW roms you will have about 5gb allocated to apps space but on CN only 2.8gb !!
The ROW roms have been tweaked so the Chinese is not there and the AOSP is proper English !!
Hope this helps !!!
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Is there an AOSP ROW?
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There have been some new roms added to the given link over the past few days, there is a ROW AOSP but i haven't tested it, if you want to try please let us know how it is !!
There have also been updates to LEWA and MIUI roms on the same page !!
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There have been some new roms added to the given link over the past few days, there is a ROW AOSP but i haven't tested it, if you want to try please let us know how it is !!
There have also been updates to LEWA and MIUI roms on the same page !!
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Are you talking about AOSP OS 4.2.2 R-V0.11.2 ROW - old? I'm assuming there is no AOSP version that matches the latest official *VibeUI* rom right?
Yes the version of AOSP you saw is correct but so far no AOSP for the latest KitKat version,
The latest release for VibeUI is a stable CN version so i am guessing they will start on ROW versions now and hopefully some of the Russian developers will pick it up and start developing custom KitKat for us but saying that Mediatek roms are known for having different dependencies which are meant to be a pain to work with and with the partitions in KitKat being different, could be a while before we get something !!
bluerichblue
I used TWRP v 2.6.3.0
Failed flashing Lenovui_sofina_row_s650-s127 and s650_s930_row.
What TWRP version is consider ROW TWRP Will you link me.
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bluerichblue
I used TWRP v 2.6.3.0
Failed flashing Lenovui_sofina_row_s650-s127 and s650_s930_row.
What TWRP version is consider ROW TWRP Will you link me.
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You need to use the ROW TWRP even if you are on a CN rom , as the partitions are different and the recoveries are set for specific partition !!
Go here and scroll down a bit you will see 2 lines for recoveries :
http://lenovo-forums.ru/topic/3499-...-lenovo-vibe-x-mini-s650/?hl=s650#entry166471
Lenovo S650 TWRP NEW VERSION
General information for users of CN based roms who have updated to KitKat 4.4.2 roms !!
There is a new version of TWRP recovery 2.7.0, found here:
http://lenovo-forums.ru/topic/3499-расширенные-recovery-для-lenovo-vibe-x-mini-s650/
THIS IS FOR CN, KITKAT BASED ROMS ONLY, NOW WORKING MOUNT STORAGE IN RECOVERY MODE AND BACKUP FOR KITKAT ROMS NOW FULLY WORKING !!!
Latest AOSP runs good. Have some problems with google account sync.
This is a list of Nougat ROMs for this device and it's clones.
The list will be in the following format:
ROM : Version : Device : Tested/Untested
LineageOS : 14.1 : MMXC5 / E481 : Untested
Resurrection Remix : 5.8.4 : MMXC5 / E481 : Tested
crDROID : v3.5 : MMXC5 / E481 : Tested
AOSGPX : 7.1.2 : MMXC5 / E481 : Untested
There are also ROMs for the Elephone P8000, however the first time I tried one I got into a bootloop. It could just have been that I didn't wipe my caches, or it could have been a fault in the ROM; nonetheless I haven't tried any others from that device.
I couldn't find any for other devices, let me know if you see others.
Here is the factory firmware, as according to this post (Direct Download).
Also, the stock recovery: Original Post | Direct Download.
Im currently running crDroid and I couldn't be happier. Runs far better than the original firmware and the useless marshmallow update.
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Im currently running crDroid and I couldn't be happier. Runs far better than the original firmware and the useless marshmallow update.
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Have you encountered any bugs with crDroid? Did screen on time and standby increase by any good margin because doze and other os optimizations? With stock I get 7hrs SOT with LTE half the day. 5hrs if Skype calls and such.
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Have you encountered any bugs with crDroid? Did screen on time and standby increase by any good margin because doze and other os optimizations? With stock I get 7hrs SOT with LTE half the day. 5hrs if Skype calls and such.
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Only bug so far is the kill app button not working (long press the back button) and sometimes after reboot sim cards not being detected. Usually it corrects itself after a few minutes. If not, I'll just re-flash the fix
Battery gets drained pretty fast compared to lollipop, but then again I used lollipop with xposed, greenify and amplify.
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Only bug so far is the kill app button... and sometimes after reboot sim cards not being detected...
Battery gets drained pretty fast compared to lollipop, but then again I used lollipop with xposed, greenify and amplify.
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Happy to hear only minor bugs. I'm waiting on black Friday SD card to ship and then I'll be able to test too.
On lollipop all I needed to use was power nap to kill unwanted wake locks. I'll definitely try to get it to work because batter life is important to me. Only reason I'm upgrading is because of older exploits that stock didn't get updates for. Other than that stock with xposed is extremely stable for me.(30-60 days between reboots)
Do you know if crDroid is using stock lollipop kernel or is it a ported kernel? That would effect battery life greatly I suppose.
review of roms
Review time. Installed and tested these roms by wiping dalvik cache, system, data, cache and internal storage. Flashed ROM then gapps then "front camera flash" patch lastly flashed sim patch. Afterwards I wiped cache and dalvik cache again before rebooting. Once I had access to settings I disabled display live/night mode/blue filter for all ROMs.
All the roms tested used about 1GB of ram (and stock ROM being around <600MB.).
Resurrection Remix : 5.8.4 : Looks to me a part of this rom was made by another group of people that were not given credit.. Default browser loads the homepage of the other group. The system FM radio app was asking for root permission(denied it). Also it had email services running before I added any accounts can't remember this being the norm. Other than that this ROM ran the best in terms of speed and ui. Uninstalled because of security concerns.
LineageOS : 14.1 : This ROM has about the same speed as resurrection which is good but the ui stuttered/not smooth. Uninstalled because ported by same user as resurrection.
crDROID : v3.5 : This one ran the worse. It was slow and stuttered throughout the ui. Missed some customizations that Resurrection had so not sure why any one would want to use this instead.
AOSGPX : Didn't bother installing because last I heard they copied and pasted code from crDRoid.
At the end of the day I reverted back to stock because of security concerns. As well as having more ram available for apps. If I had more than one phone phone I would wireshark/test connections of the ROMs to confirm but I do not have. Hopfully this helps someone.
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Review time. Installed and tested these roms by wiping dalvik cache, system, data, cache and internal storage. Flashed ROM then gapps then "front camera flash" patch lastly flashed sim patch. Afterwards I wiped cache and dalvik cache again before rebooting. Once I had access to settings I disabled display live/night mode/blue filter for all ROMs.
All the roms tested used about 1GB of ram (and stock ROM being around <600MB.).
Resurrection Remix : 5.8.4 : Looks to me this was made by some Russians. Default browser loads RU homepage. The system FM radio app was asking for root permission(denied it). Also it had email services running before I added any accounts can't remember this being the norm. Other than that this ROM ran the best in terms of speed and ui. Uninstalled because of security concerns.
LineageOS : 14.1 : This ROM has about the same speed as resurrection which is good but the ui stuttered/not smooth. Uninstalled because ported by same user as resurrection.
crDROID : v3.5 : This one ran the worse. It was slow and stuttered throughout the ui. Missed some customizations that Resurrection had so not sure why any one would want to use this instead.
AOSGPX : Didn't bother installing because last I heard they copied and pasted code from crDRoid.
At the end of the day I reverted back to stock because of security concerns. As well as having more ram available for apps. If I had more than one phone phone I would wireshark/test connections of the ROMs to confirm but I do not have. Hopfully this helps someone.
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Just wondering with the ROM testing, did you disable the LiveDisplay nonsense? It drops my FPS to about 10, and is enabled by default.
Sorry, didn't read your whole post. I didn't find UI stuttering unless I enabled weird kernel stuff, or had L Speed installed.
Does anyone happen to know if any of these ROMs fix the problem that the official MM caused which was that all camera apps created a very dark image and took extremely dark photos?
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Does anyone happen to know if any of these ROMs fix the problem that the official MM caused which was that all camera apps created a very dark image and took extremely dark photos?
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Im using crDroid and yes, it fixes it. That is one of the main reasons why I decided to keep it and got rid of Marshmallow.
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Im using crDroid and yes, it fixes it. That is one of the main reasons why I decided to keep it and got rid of Marshmallow.
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Hmm... sounds good. Any issues with that ROM? Slow downs, wonky USB port, minijack works ok, etc?
tinpanalley said:
Hmm... sounds good. Any issues with that ROM? Slow downs, wonky USB port, minijack works ok, etc?
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sucktastic battery life (not like the original firmware was good to begin with) no compass (gmaps will point north regardless of your orientation) as soon as you install the google app (okay google!) the device will run a bit slower.
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sucktastic battery life (not like the original firmware was good to begin with) no compass (gmaps will point north regardless of your orientation) as soon as you install the google app (okay google!) the device will run a bit slower.
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Oh, ok... well in that case, that doesn't exactly help things. I'm gonna go back to Lollipop rooted to take out the bloatware. Can you recommend a way of doing that that is known to work well?
tinpanalley said:
Oh, ok... well in that case, that doesn't exactly help things. I'm gonna go back to Lollipop rooted to take out the bloatware. Can you recommend a way of doing that that is known to work well?
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SP flash tool, scatter file and the original firmware (not a flashable zip). It's all in the original BLOX thread, buried somewhere there. Flash TWRP recovery using adb fastboot and flash super su with twrp recovery for root access.
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SP flash tool, scatter file and the original firmware (not a flashable zip). It's all in the original BLOX thread, buried somewhere there. Flash TWRP recovery using adb fastboot and flash super su with twrp recovery for root access.
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Wow, thorough, thanks. Don't know what half those things are but I'll look them up. I guess there's no way to go straight back to Lollipop without flashing a stock ROM. I mean, by rooting it now maybe and then downgrading or something?
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Wow, thorough, thanks. Don't know what half those things are but I'll look them up. I guess there's no way to go straight back to Lollipop without flashing a stock ROM. I mean, by rooting it now maybe and then downgrading or something?
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You could flash a lollipop twrp backup, if anyone uploaded one or if you made one before. But if you don't have it, only way is by sp flash tool and original firmware (which is not a recovery flashable zip).
Been using the Crdroid rom for a few weeks now. Havn't had any lag or extreme battery issues. Im interested in trying the resurrection remix rom since it was tested to be the fastest, tho them security issues are kinda holding me back. One thing im lookin for is front camera flash and back aswell. on Crdroid u cannot toggle it in the camera app, tho the flash works.
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Been using the Crdroid rom for a few weeks now. Havn't had any lag or extreme battery issues. Im interested in trying the resurrection remix rom since it was tested to be the fastest, tho them security issues are kinda holding me back. One thing im lookin for is front camera flash and back aswell. on Crdroid u cannot toggle it in the camera app, tho the flash works.
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What are these security issues people are mentioning? Isn't a ROM a ROM? I don't get it.
Also, if crDroid works fine, you could just try any other camera app. There are several that are quite good. I wish there were videos of crDroid.
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What are these security issues people are mentioning? Isn't a ROM a ROM? I don't get it.
Also, if crDroid works fine, you could just try any other camera app. There are several that are quite good. I wish there were videos of crDroid.
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I mean with what's going on with Kaspersky being investigated for allowing certain trogens to work undetected and Kaspersky is own by Russians and since when does fm radio need root access.
Just a bit sketchy you know... But it could be just over-thinking it.
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I mean with what's going on with Kaspersky being investigated for allowing certain trogens to work undetected and Kaspersky is own by Russians and since when does fm radio need root access.
Just a bit sketchy you know... But it could be just over-thinking it.
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I'd just not use the radio. [emoji4]
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I'd just not use the radio. [emoji4]
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But the thing is you don't know what else has been tampered with.
I'm not really a very advanced user, but always had rooted devices and two that I flashed Custom Roms. This is my first Samsung, finding Touchwiz to be very different from what I used before.
I bought the S7 (930F) and had the news that it was going to be updated to Oreo, so I decided waiting for the update before tinkering with it.. But the update never came. Finally this month Samsung released the update for my region, so I would like to know which would be the best way for me to start finally using my phone that I bought for over 2 months!
My phone is still with Nougat, is it better for me to get the OTA or to flash the Firmware I downloaded from Sammobile? Any of these methods better than the other in preventing errors? I always found in PCs that a fresh clean install was better than an update, but with mobiles I don't have the experience to say.
My main objective is to experiment before doing a debloat as I'm still not sure what might be useful for me on Samsung's bloat (you are welcome to point me what is useful and what is not).
I did see that some of the Customs ROMS have different camera apps and some people were complaining about this, I particularly liked the S7 camera app and the Pro option, that's what holds me back in flashing a Custom ROM atm.
I would like to Root and I find Unlocked Bootloader to be useful to have Xposed Framework and other things that I can do having it.
As I'm a relative newbie, what would you guys recommend me doing? Please help
tl;dr: I want to have Oreo, be able to debloat, want to root and unlock bootloader, not sure about Custom Rom.
Lineage if you want basic and simple (sort of like stock Android). Resurrection Remix if you're a customisation nut (not a slam... I use RR).
If you wonna full samsung u need flash base firmawre custom roms only 8.0 android
If you dnt need samsung integration (pulsometr doesnt work) you can flash 8.1 roms try cosmic os or Lineage 15
As the title says, here's a list of some GSI's i have tested so far... but first for some story.
Bought the phone in summer, it's quite nice but has its own issues like no kernel source BUT since we can unlock the device and actually play around, oh boy it has been fun.
On the course of few hours and many downloads later I have a small list of GSI's that worked!
Every GSI I have mentioned REQUIRE device specific patch(es)!!!
For that you have to root.
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BlissROM - It boots and functions quite fast
Cons: no included Gapps
Flashing any system editing patch results in "Phone is booting" homescreen.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/treblerom/files/BLESS/2020.09.21/
3.5 jack, VoLTE, Bluetooth, ComboFix patches are required, flash with Magisk manager
DO NOT USE FixLagSmooth
HavocOS 3.7 and 3.6 - Work and can be daily driven
3.6 requires FixLagSmooth patch
MUST root and apply all linked patches (don't use FixLagSmooth on 3.7, you can but no need)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...rom-how-to-install-android-10-gsi-mi-t4126223
AOSP Android 10 based - Also does work and requires patching
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi...rom-how-to-install-android-10-gsi-mi-t4126223
HydrogenOS Android 10 - Works
Has few bugs
No Google services
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/gsi/HydrogenOS/
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Android 11 GSI - Reported to be functional by HumptyPotato47, thanks mate!
No Gapps as of now NikGapps exist for Android 11, search XDA for it!
Requires more testing...
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v300.f
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OxygenOS 10 GSI - Seems to work.. sorta
First boot after exiting fastboot causes the phone to reboot
Second boot will loop
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/gsi/OxygenOS/
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You tell me
...I did find a very nice list of GSI ROMs to try out more, here's the link:
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Generic-System-Image-(GSI)-list
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If you test one then don't hesitate with replying which one, about the experience, bugs and how you installed it.
My method of installing was this:
1. Make sure to have the new adb commandline that supports fastbootd mode
2. Drop the GSI .img file in /adb directory for ease
3. Make sure you're running MIUI with unlocked bootloader and USB debugging enabled
3.5 MAKE SURE you get a GSI ROM with Gapps as existing TWRP isn't fully functional
4. GSI you should have must be AB partition!!!
Once all set then follow the next commands
>adb reboot bootloader
>fastboot -w
>fastboot reboot fastboot
>fastboot erase system
>fastboot flash system "GSI-ROM-name-without-quotes".img
>fastboot reboot bootloader
>fastboot reboot
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Once all that is complete it should boot, if not then that specific GSI does not work.
Also a thing worth mentioning! Whenever I boot this phone to fastbootd Windows keeps forgetting what driver it was which requires
few extra clicks in device manager to set it up for fastbootd use. Including an image with simple to follow instructions if you have the same issue.
>fastboot boot twrp.img
Once in TWRP you should be able to access internal storage with your computer, drag Magisk.zip over and flash. Don't forget to wipe cache!
If it boots normally then root was successful, now apply the linked patch and reboot once again. Since we are playing with GSI:
Head to Settings
Find Phh Treble Settings
Misc features
Check Disable audio effect. -- DISABLE IT AFTER PATCHING!!!
IMPORTANT!!! I only tested Havoc and Bliss for a long period, IF one of my mentioned GSI's or others require more patches then I have linked headphone jack and Bluetooth audio patches too.
Combo fix should do the trick thought so your mileage may vary.
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IF you find more working GSI's then tell us and I will make sure to add them to the main post so it won't get clogged under other comments!
Update on 05.10.2020 GMT+3
Bliss ROM GSI
As only a day or two have passed I already encountered few issues.
> You cannot remove screenshot sounds, even when fully muted
> Data drain is something interesting I've noticed, consumption compared to MIUI is higher.
> When using the gesture navigation it is a bit buggy when using quick side swipe for multitasking.
Positive notes!
> It is stupid fast
> Battery life is good
> GCam is amazing
> 99% of the customization options work perfectly
> Fast charging modes and such work perfectly
Neutral stuff...
> No FOD, thanks for closed source
> whenever you take a picture or a screenshot and have Blutetooth audio connected, it pauses and plays out loud via speaker. No music leaks out
this phone is born dead, no developer cares about it.
alsartawi said:
this phone is born dead, no developer cares about it.
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Sad truth but won't stop others from working on it. Eventually we might get a kernel source
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Sad truth but won't stop others from working on it. Eventually we might get a kernel source
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i would pay to see a stable custom rom for this phone, i really loved it.
alsartawi said:
i would pay to see a stable custom rom for this phone, I really loved it.
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Havoc OS and Bliss ROM are both quite stable, albeit with Bliss you don't get Gapps which is a huge bummer to most users.
Personally I just installed MicroG services and use Aurora store with anonymous "account".
When I tried to flash Gapps with TWRP I ended up soft bricking ROM so it was required to restore stock and try again. Of course there's no need if you can still use fastbootd.
Kevin Soosaar said:
Havoc OS and Bliss ROM are both quite stable, albeit with Bliss you don't get Gapps which is a huge bummer to most users.
Personally I just installed MicroG services and use Aurora store with anonymous "account".
When I tried to flash Gapps with TWRP I ended up soft bricking ROM so it was required to restore stock and try again. Of course there's no need if you can still use fastbootd.
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does FOD works on Havoc OS?
edit: sorry i just read that it's not working.
alsartawi said:
does FOD works on Havoc OS?
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FOD is not working as the driver sources are not public, reverse engineering is not possible too afaik. Everything else works.
Should i send this phone back to Amazon?
Seriously, last night i bought it, thinking about to install some custom rom, but if there are no developers caring of it, i might returb the phone to the seller...
IMO MIUI EU is better then GSI roms. Everything works. Got rid of most chinese crap. You can use Magisk.
Have nice features (MIUI in general). The only thing i dont like -mine turns on WIFI byitself dotn know how it happens... but it happens when i sleep. china collecting logs?
https://www.scmp.com/abacus/tech/ar...earch-and-browsing-data-china-researcher-says
afigienas said:
IMO MIUI EU is better then GSI roms. Everything works. Got rid of most chinese crap. You can use Magisk.
Have nice features (MIUI in general). The only thing i dont like -mine turns on WIFI byitself dotn know how it happens... but it happens when i sleep. china collecting logs?
https://www.scmp.com/abacus/tech/ar...earch-and-browsing-data-china-researcher-says
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Literally the main reason I made this post is to help others who are interested to use GSI ROM's on their devices. I do agree that MIUI has some decent features and I did use Xiaomu.eu before but it was so buggy. In the end I love customizing the device however I like it so MIUI is just not for me. Either way I might try to negotiate with Amazon to get a refund as touch and Bluetooth problems still persist. Fun fact, on Bliss the edge detection is pretty good and not as aggressive or straight out bad.
Simon_19 said:
Seriously, last night i bought it, thinking about to install some custom rom, but if there are no developers caring of it, i might returb the phone to the seller...
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Actually there are plenty of people ready to build ROMs for Toco (Mi Note 10 Lite) and Tucana (Mi Note 10) but there just isn't any kernel source available. Making things worse is the cancelled release of Toco in India and we know that they are one of the biggest Android ROM builders next to Russians. No one there is gonna import a device like this because better phones for money exist. If you don't like it then yeah I recommend returning otherwise give GSI a try for now and see what happens.
You won't lose warranty as there is no E-fuse like on Samsung phones so locking bootloader and flashing back to stock is enough.
Is anyone try oos gsi ?
HumptyPotato47 said:
Android 11 GSI of phh is working fine. It is very smooth. But i switched back to miui because i can't find any android 11 gapps.
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can you give the link of the rom?
HumptyPotato47 said:
Android 11 GSI of phh is working fine. It is very smooth. But i switched back to miui because i can't find any android 11 gapps.
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Hi, there are gapps for Android 11, look for NikGapps here in XDA
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Actually there are plenty of people ready to build ROMs for Toco (Mi Note 10 Lite) and Tucana (Mi Note 10) but there just isn't any kernel source available. Making things worse is the cancelled release of Toco in India and we know that they are one of the biggest Android ROM builders next to Russians. No one there is gonna import a device like this because better phones for money exist. If you don't like it then yeah I recommend returning otherwise give GSI a try for now and see what happens.
You won't lose warranty as there is no E-fuse like on Samsung phones so locking bootloader and flashing back to stock is enough.
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who said its cancelled?
Dr. DoubtReaper said:
who said its cancelled?
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The mentioned Mi Note 10 Lite for India was supposed to be called Mi 10i or something like that. It quickly disappeared and is not happening.
Of course I might be wrong by this date but looking for now there is no 10i, only speculation videos and threads.
Mi Note 10 Lite for India would've been code named "tocoin", same hardware and everything else so just a rebadge in old Xiaomi fashion... :laugh:
anyone tried new version of blissROM? feedback?
GaryFisher88 said:
anyone tried new version of blissROM? feedback?
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Not sure if the one I linked is up do date, give it a try yourself as my device went in for warranty repairs.
Hello, I am currently using Xiaomi.eu based on MIUI 12 and I would like to know how to flash HAVOC OS GSI. Should I flash back to Global Rom then flash the GSI as indicated? Answer is greatly appreciated.
First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
- Regards,
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You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
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You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
- Regards,
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.