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I know this will be completely relative to the amount of notifications you have pushed to the sw2 but....what kind of impact are you seeing in regards to your phone's battery life?
Basically, does reduction in phone screen-on time and foreground cpu processes negate the impact of the bt and smartwatch connect running in the background of your phone?
Thanks!
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randaddy said:
I know this will be completely relative to the amount of notifications you have pushed to the sw2 but....what kind of impact are you seeing in regards to your phone's battery life?
Basically, does reduction in phone screen-on time and foreground cpu processes negate the impact of the bt and smartwatch connect running in the background of your phone?
Thanks!
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Difficult to quantify accurately without a with and without comparison on a strictly like for like basis but I haven't noticed any significant impact on my phone's battery life. I was worried that maintaining a constant bluetooth link and keeping SmartConnect and the SW's notification elements constantly running in the backgroung (ie, not Greenified) would be a big drain but I've not seen any of this. If anything, not having to constantly get my phone out and turn the screen on everytime it receives some form of message may well be saving my phone's battery - it's certainly been much more convenient for me.
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Difficult to quantify accurately without a with and without comparison on a strictly like for like basis but I haven't noticed any significant impact on my phone's battery life. I was worried that maintaining a constant bluetooth link and keeping SmartConnect and the SW's notification elements constantly running in the backgroung (ie, not Greenified) would be a big drain but I've not seen any of this. If anything, not having to constantly get my phone out and turn the screen on everytime it receives some form of message may well be saving my phone's battery - it's certainly been much more convenient for me.
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Same. I was worried also about BT, but nothing happened Once i saw Smartwatch Map2 consuming battery, but it is gone too. I found some feedbacks about that app consuming battery, but that's another story and always can be uninstalled...
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Thanks! This is exactly what I was hoping to hear.
The SW2 happened to be on sale at Best Buy today, needless to say I'm now part of the club! =)
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Welcome mate! Enjoy your new toy
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I'm pretty satisfied too, it doesn't seem to drain too much the phone battery! The only thing i noticed was the gmail extension for smartwatch, in the first days it seemed to have a little bit more of battery drain compared to the other extensions, so i removed it. With Watchit you can see the notifications of gmail also, so no problems at all welcome to the SW community
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Wore my watch and used my Samsung GS3 (rooted 4.1.2, BoneStock 3.4) and it chewed up battery way faster than normal. Previously my rooted phone could get two days between charges with light usage and definitely through a full day with moderator heavy use. Only extensive GPS use would wear it own under a day. Using SW2 seems to draw just under the GPS draw. I only have the stock Sony extensions for Gmail, messaging, slide show, music, calendar. I read that the Gmail extension draws a lot battery but I can't use other notification apps like Watch It so I push all my email to my Gmail account to get notifications on my watch.
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I have a Note 3 and had this watch since xmas and i can say with all the test i made, with battery monitors, checking wakelocks, trying 2 identical days with and without the watch tethered, there is no significant impact of this watch on the battery life of my Note 3, there is less than 2% difference between the days i have the watch connected and those i dont. That could be considered as a margin of error. Or maybe one day a had a couple more notifications that the other, anyways, there is no significant impact.
my phone battery is bad but I haven't noticed that the battery drain more with the smartwatch 2,
before using the smartwatch 2 I had always running BT on the background (so I can step in to the car and connect with the radio ),
In fact yesterday i uses my smartwatch 2 allot in in place of my phone and my phone fell down when i was home normally it will shut down hours before!
So I think it doesn't effect allot of you'r phone batery.
It's currently chewing up a good 20% plus of my battery consumption. Well, "com.sonyericsson.extras.liveware.extension.userLabel" is chewing up 20% plus. I think that's the long winded name for "Smart Connect", that or the "SmartWatch 2" app.
"com.sonyericsson.extras.liveware.extension.userLabel" under 'included packages' states:
Facebook - Smart Extras
Weather Widget - Smart Extras
Find Phone - Smart Extras
Twitter - Smart Extras
Missed Call - Smart Extras
I'm assuming that however I have those Smart Extras setup determines how much impact it has on the battery i.e. Weather Widget - Smart Extras updating the weather every 15 minutes will eat up more battery then setting it to every 1 hour.
Question: If you install something like "Watchify", and you use that to handle notifications for what is being currently handled by the Smart Extras in the list above, is it safe to remove "Smart Connect"?
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Question: If you install something like "Watchify", and you use that to handle notifications for what is being currently handled by the Smart Extras in the list above, is it safe to remove "Smart Connect"?
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If you remove Smart Connect I believe your watch will loose connection with your phone. At least that's what I found.
Try it for yourself though, easy enough to put back on.
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If you remove Smart Connect I believe your watch will loose connection with your phone. At least that's what I found.
Try it for yourself though, easy enough to put back on.
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Yes I think you're right. Delving deeper in to third party apps it would seem they all use Smart Connect as a kind of vehicle between watch and phone.
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Yes I think you're right. Delving deeper in to third party apps it would seem they all use Smart Connect as a kind of vehicle between watch and phone.
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Wow. As I mentioned earlier, Smart Connect was hogging a good 20%+ battery. I have been monitoring it all day and I've been out at work on my mobile data during that time. Now I've been back home on WiFi only a couple of hours, Smart Connect has dropped right down to 5% battery usage! Would definitely seem as though while its using the mobile data to forward notifications it hits the battery harder then it does over WiFi.
That sort of makes sense as under normal circumstances mobile data, as it's constantly trying to find best signal, always hits the battery harder then WiFi which is generally pretty stable. So factor in Smart Connect and it makes sense.
I really need to see what my phones battery life would be like had I not been charging it on and off throughout the day. I'll try and start at 100% tomorrow morning and just let it run till I'm home and see what percentage it drops and how much of that drop was Smart Connect.
My phone is the Note II. Going forward battery capacity will be high on my priority prerequisite list for my next mobile phone.
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I use 2x battery, to just turn on auto-sync/wifi/3g every 15 minutes, rather than having permanent push. Saves tonnes of power if you can content yourself with that.
It also has a SmartWatch extension which is nice.
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I use 2x battery, to just turn on auto-sync/wifi/3g every 15 minutes, rather than having permanent push. Saves tonnes of power if you can content yourself with that.
It also has a SmartWatch extension which is nice.
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Yes, I also use 2x battery, and I can confirm this. In my opinion the best battery saver out there. And works nicely with the SW2.
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nice trick that 2x battery, data always chews a lot of battery, but with the z ultra, that screen is a killer, alltough i put it on 20% brightness and still see ok, but since i got the SW2 it does drain faster, idk why is that, before i had this toy i could go a solid day listening to grooveshark and googling contantly, now i had to buy a magnetic dock to keep it going.Oh what we do for our gadgets )
I decided to document battery usage on my gear2 after initially running into some trouble with the battery. I bought 2 brand new gear2's and when they arrived, I connected one to my note 3, which has a custom rom, and the other to a s5, with a stock rom. I noticed right away that the gear connected to the note 3 was draning battery much faster. This is what I set out to troubleshoot.
First of all let me explain the issues I had between the note 3 and the gear2 that was causing the battery drain; these are likely due to my rom being custom. When I first attempted to pair the gear to the phone, it would say device not supported. To even get the gear paired I had to use titanium back to remove anything that was related to the gear manager or gear in general. I then reinstalled the latest gear manager apk from the samsung store. This did not go smoothly and I had to find some missing apks as well because the app kept crashing. I didn't document exactly how I got it working because I was just trying any and everything to get it working. I know for sure that I was missing samsungservice apk and that was causing the app to crash at one point.
Once I got it paired up, I noticed when I would boot the phone "sensor service stopped" would show up. Also, when I would open s health multiple "health service" and related services would say that they stopped. I had to remove each one of those services with titaniuim backup and then reinstall the latest s health and let s health reinstall the services I removed. Sounds complicated and most likely no one will even run into these issues, but I posted this just in case. Also, I left "sensor service" uninstalled and it doesn't appear that s health reinstalled it and everything is functioning without it as of right now.
As long as gear manager is functioning correctly and there are no error messages from s health and everything is updated, there should be no abnormal battery drain. The following are some scenarios that I documented to show what normal battery drain should look like.
First thing I did was charge the gear up to 100% and let it sit overnight, for 8 hours while I slept. I disabled bluetooth so it wasn't connected to the phone, I also went to recent apps and made sure all programs were closed and that all sensors were disabled; sleep, pedometer etc.. After 8 hours of this I lost a grand total of: 1%. I woke up with 99% battery after 8 hours.
Next night I charged to 100%, connected to the phone via bluetooth, and closed all apps again and made sure no sensors were active and turned of notifications. After 8 hours of sleeping I had lost 4%. I woke up at 96% battery remaining. So the idle drain of just the gear by itself while connectd to the phone via bluetooth is half a percent an hour. Not bad at all.
Next I wanted to test how Tizen behaved with its apps. I read that some were getting better battery life by closing all apps down when not in use. I wanted to test this. So I did the same exact thing from the previous night except I opened every possible app as well. So bluetooth connected, no sensors active, no notications, but I opened every possbile app to load them up in the recent apps (memory). My findings were exactly the same as when I closed all apps the night prior. I lost 4% after 8 hours. So don't close out any apps, it does nothing on Tizen.
I next wanted to test the heart rate monitor as it was the single reason I bought the watch to begin with. Results were impressive. I turned the continual heart rate monitor on, running mode under exercise, and monitored my heart rate for 30 minutes (the amount of time I usually run in the gym). I lost 2% in 30 minutes. Not bad at all!
Next I tested one of the newer features of the gear 2 which was its ability to store its own music and play it back via bluetooth. I hooked up some bluetooth headphones and played continual music for 30 minutes straight. I lost 6% in 30 minutes. Thats 12% an hour. A little more than I'm comfortable with and it doesn't even sync with google music. It works very well, but just drains battery too much. Much better to use the media controller and have the phone play all the music.
For the final test I wanted to do a day of what normal usage might be like. I had bluetooth connected all day, notifications enabled, motion enabled (wrist motion to turn screen on), brightness at 2, I sent/responded to 10 text messages, received 25 or more notifications, 4 short phone calls, didnt use any monitors at all (heart rate, sleep, pedometer). I didn't play any music either. Ended up with 72% battery at the end of the day. At that rate I could have gone for 3 and a half days without charging. NOT BAD AT ALL! My gear 1 would come nowhere near that number.
Anyway I hope this may be beneficial to people struggling with battery life or considering a gear2 purchase because Of battery life. I know for me personally, battery life is the reason I returned the gear 1.
Nice testing and information but I don't see any conclusions about why the one connected to your Note 3 had worse battery life other than its custom ROM. Did you try swapping watches to the other phone and running the same tests? Did you restore the Note 3 to stock and get those results?
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Nice testing and information but I don't see any conclusions about why the one connected to your Note 3 had worse battery life other than its custom ROM. Did you try swapping watches to the other phone and running the same tests? Did you restore the Note 3 to stock and get those results?
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Sorry I wasn't clear. I was getting drain when I first was able to get the gear connected to the note 3. The gear manager app and s health were both showing different errors and crashing though, so that was the reason for the drain. Once I fixed s health and gear manager the drain was on par with the other gear. If those 2 apps are screwed up and crashing or showing errors it will keep sending/requesting info from the gear or something which kills battery.
thanks a lot for your info
i really hope we gonna have a good app to see what is eating our battery...
really strange that in tizen they don't have it ...
I downloaded the recent upgrade on my gear 2 and the battery life significantly reduced from 3 days to <24 hours! I switched off bluetooth and somehow it improved to 1.5 days. Something with the latest is caused my Note 2 to constantly ping the gear2 watch.
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I downloaded the recent upgrade on my gear 2 and the battery life significantly reduced from 3 days to <24 hours! I switched off bluetooth and somehow it improved to 1.5 days. Something with the latest is caused my Note 2 to constantly ping the gear2 watch.
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Which software version are you talking about exactly?
2.0.14042803 to be exact. Thanks.
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2.0.14042803 to be exact. Thanks.
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Just read me what it says in "about gear" on the watch itself. What it says for software version.
R380XXU0BNDD and I have just upgraded gear manager to 2.1.14. Thanks in advance!
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R380XXU0BNDD and I have just upgraded gear manager to 2.1.14. Thanks in advance!
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I have the same gear manager but I am still on the stock ND8 and am not having any issues. Maybe try to flash back to ND8 if possible. There may be an imcompatibility somewhere. NDD is made for devices of other countries, so who knows.
I am based in the Philippines. Just today I got another upgrade on my gear 2 to BNE5 and still the unusual draining continues. Must be the GM app?
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I am based in the Philippines. Just today I got another upgrade on my gear 2 to BNE5 and still the unusual draining continues. Must be the GM app?
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Clear data on the manager app and start from scratch. If that doesn't work we may have to uninstall the app completely and start over. That's what I had to do.
Guys, have a look at this thread. Could be applicable to Samsung devices as well...
Thank's
lightdelegate said:
thanks a lot for your info
i really hope we gonna have a good app to see what is eating our battery...
really strange that in tizen they don't have it ...
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I also appreciate the info
Uninstalled GM app from phone and reset gear 2 and reinstall with just stock apps. Battery is still draining and worse, S health cannot retrieve profile from samsung server.
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Fixed! Deleted and reinstalled google account somehow cleaned my phone book! Now battery is draining 1% per hour!
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Hi Guys,
I bought a Gear S3, it was preowned, so I fear that there might be some issues with its battery, including having a faulty battery completely. Can you please guide me/confirm the following battery behaviors to be true on your Gears OR do I in fact have a bad watch and it needs to be returned?
1. When watch is off the cradle, not connected to the phone (disconnected through the Gear app), but NOT in Airplane mode, it goes from 100% battery to 0 and dead within 24 hours. Normal?
2. 100% charge, wrist gesture on, Samsung pay, no LTE, just bluetooth, used for about 12 hours, message notifications, maybe 3 - 4 hours of AOD. The day ends with about 50% charge. Normal?
3. Off the cradle, in Airplane mode, started with 100% battery, not used for 12 hours, just on the desk, ~95% battery left. Normal?
4. Slightly off topic question: When a Chromecast video is playing, watch detects it, knows the title of the video, but Play/Pause, Skip doesn't work. Normal?
Appreciate your prompt input, I need to open an RMA before the end of this week. Thank you!
Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Haha thanks Johnny! So those are all normal scenarios in your experience?
Also, any comment the controlling the Chromecast issue? ?
This is normal
I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!
The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!
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I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thanks for your response bud... Can you test on your side and confirm for me?
Hi guys,
after a long time, I am back with Android. I was with the "dark" side for a while, aka Apple. At least with the phone I want to be with Android again. I got myself the Mate 20 X & since I miss my Apple Watch, i got myself the Samsung Gear S3 as well. The battery on the Mate 20 x is great, but the Watch will do its best to drain that faster. Especially since it seems the connection between the phone & the watch looses a lot more connection than I ever had with the Apple Watch and an iPhone.
The Samsung Gear app already seems to be the biggest battery drain on the entire phone. For those of you also using this watch, what is the best way to do all that. Sure, I could simply decide to not use the watch connected to the phone and just use it as daily sports & watch, only syncing manually once a day. Of course that would make the watch less smart, but I suppose that would also mean having more battery life on the phone. Or is it the actual Samsung apps that are the battery problem alone ?
Any help you can give me i would appreciate.
Wolf
I use a galaxy s7 duo, and the gear app doesn't even show up in the list of apps using the battery. It may well be hidden in the 'android os' on samsung phones, however.
It's difficult for me to tell if the phone has started using more battery since I bought the S3 watch because about the same time I went fully wireless, and that is killing my phone battery anyway, so I have to charge every day.
Thats why i went for something larger in terms of battery, which is the Huawei Mate 20 X. I just dont want the watch to kill of that benefit. The phones reminds me quite often, that the Samsung Gear or more to be precise the Gear S Plugin drains more power than anything else on the phone. To remove that stuff from running in the background would of course kill the connection from the watch to the phone , which would suck.
But overall i have to say, that the connection between the Gear S3 and the phone gets interrupted a lot. Coming from my previous iPhone & the Apple watch, i hardly ever had any issues with that. Not to mention that the range between the two devices was better with the iPhone & Apple watch, than it is now with the Gear S3 and the phone.
My connection is always stable.
And battery drain from my watch is barely noticable.
It shows 1% in the table after 1 cycle but thats because i set up my watch today after flashing another rom on my phone.
What did you choose when you set up your watch?
Stay connected or did you skipped it?
I skipped it and for me its all good.
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What did you choose when you set up your watch?
Stay connected or did you skipped it?
I skipped it and for me its all good.
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What do you mean ? Watch settings or Gear App settings ?
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What do you mean ? Watch settings or Gear App settings ?
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when you set up your watch with the gear app.
reinstall gear apps and connect the watch with a new phone.
them you can restore your watch backup and choose if it should be always connected.
that probably drains much battery
Hello. How to set the battery indicator on samsung galaxy watch 4 a samsung s22 plus phone?
Not sure what you are asking for. Are you wanting to see the battery level on the watch? See it on the phone? See it on both?
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Not sure what you are asking for. Are you wanting to see the battery level on the watch? See it on the phone? See it on both?
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I want to see the battery level of the watch and the phone on the watch.
Press and hold the watch face and scroll down. If you bought it you should see an option to show both the phone and watch battery. Make sure you unrestrict any battery optimizations on the pixel phone app so you can get an accurate read on the battery