Can V4A control the 3.5mm adapter? - HTC U11 Questions & Answers

So it looks like the bundled 3.5mm adapter is not as good as the 10 not M9, it will need the help of V4A or Arise, though given it's a USB C port, can you use V4A with this adapter??

Yes you can. I use it this way before I get my Bluetooth headphones.

Cool! Can you improve the 3.5mm output with it?
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Yes, v4a will detect your headphones on the headphones profile, just like it normally does.

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[Q] Line In Recording

Is it possible to use the 3.5mm jack on the Nexus 5 as an input source for recording?
Like connecting it to a guitar.
Thanks in advance.
I don't know, but would be curious to know the answer.
Do you have a piece of hardware that you could test it with?
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tried but didn't work...
could be a TRS TRRS problem... not sure...
related?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100322
the n5 is out of my hands right now, can someone test this...? thx in advance.
loyukfai said:
Is it possible to use the 3.5mm jack on the Nexus 5 as an input source for recording?
Like connecting it to a guitar.
Thanks in advance.
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I believe the only way is via USB...but you have to use an app as Android does not build in USB recording as does Windows. I use this app along with a USB interface and a microphone on this phone and my tablet. Works great and the dev is a great guy. He also makes a DAW (there's a free version) for recording and editing.
that's... too bad then. thanks for info but.
btw, any suggestion for usb audio in? or usb mic? thx.
anyone? " _ "
I use a pair of wired ear buds that have a built in microphone for calls. I'm running CM11 not stock but I just tested and "Sound Recorder" is more than happy to receive its input via the headset jack. I would believe it's just a matter of finding the right converter plug for your guitar.
thionylx said:
I use a pair of wired ear buds that have a built in microphone for calls. I'm running CM11 not stock but I just tested and "Sound Recorder" is more than happy to receive its input via the headset jack. I would believe it's just a matter of finding the right converter plug for your guitar.
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I have used ASR for recording, works fine over the headset jack. It is a mono source of course. It won't work with a standard 3.5mm plug of course, you have to have the signal on the microphone portion - which is ground (silence) for the standard plugs.
I used the adapter that came with Dragon Naturally Speaking. It has two 3.5mm stereo plugs to one 3.5mm stereo+mic plug. If you use a 3.5mm stereo cable into the mic side of this adapter it works fine.
You could probably rig up something from Radio Shack, but I didn't have to because this worked, and I don't need the adapter for my computer so it was just sitting in the cord box...
thanks to everyone who replied, truly.
it seems that there are 2 solutions...
1) usb sound w/dedicated app
2) cable that turns L/R input from TRS tip to M input on TRRS tip
the 3.5mm/trrs/(left/right/ground/mic) socket on the phone should work as tdcrone mentioned above. as long as a 3.5mm stereo+mic adapter available, or a custom cable that turns the original L or R input into M on the output end.
this is by far the simpler solution, **if such cable or adapter is available**, the caveat emptor is that the record will be mono, and there could be mic gain issues...?
otoh, the usb solution works, at the cost of having to get an adapter and apps for android costs.
@Vegasden: i see that both USB audio recorder pro and audio evolution mobile daw seem to work with usb recorder, and the latter one is just marginally more expensive?
edit: sorry, just realise that one also needs to buy usb audio recorder pro if she/he wants to use audio evolution mobile daw to do usb record
Is me again.
Do you think these will work? They claim to support iPhone only...
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irig/
http://www.cherubtechnology.com/product_detail.php?id=96
Cheers.
This (http://www.cherubtechnology.com/product_detail.php?id=96) works, tested okay.
Cheers.

USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter

My issue
Hi everyone, I have a Nexus 6P and want to route my audio through a USB type C converter to 3.5mm headphone Jack. I have purchased one online, but it doesn't seem to be working. I have seen that the Moto Z has this adapter and I assumed one I found online would be compatible with my 6P. The reason I want to do this is because I prefer for the AUX jack to come out the bottom of my phone.
What I have tired
Changed 'Select USB Configuration' to all the different options and tried playing music.
Tried 'audio routing' apps from the app store
What I would like to know
Is this because I need to change a setting in my phone to route music out of the USB C?
Do I need to get some kind of DAC to allow support for this?
Has anyone else tried this with their phone?
Thanks
broj0nes
Subscribed. Interested in the solution.
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If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
eregev said:
If you don't mind my asking, why bother?
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One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
brotherj0nes said:
One reason is that to me it makes more sense to put your phone upside down into you pocket. I've always done this at least. So when listening to music I have to put it the other way round. I have also heard the USB C port offers better sound quality.
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Re:sound quality, you'd possibly see a quality increase if you use an external Digital to Analogue Converter or fully usb-c headphones. BUT, if you're using a little dongle (if it's possible), then the phone is still managing the analogue conversion and, thus, a very similar quality of audio output. Now I don't know of the 6p's ability to pipe it straight out iPhone 7 style through a dongle, but short of buying a DAC and going whole-hog on an audio upgrade, I'd just flip your phone the other way in your pocket and go the standard route.
Just my $.02
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
sgandy2989 said:
I have been looking for a solution to this too and I seem to have found one. I poked around on Amazon and I think I finally found adapters that work, here's the link https://goo.gl/QT2ith This the only one with positive reviews so when it comes in on the 30th I'll let all of you know.
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Looks quite similar to the one that I got. Hopefully it works for you! Let me know how it goes
I read recently that the current implementation of audio over USB-C isn't very efficient or battery friendly. There's a new spec being ratified to provide audio like the iphone can. Hopefully that's a firmware change and not a hardware one.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/17/12519936/intel-usb-type-c-headphone-jack-replacement-idf-2016
I don't think it's possible on the 6P, not without using a USB DAC anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the adapter you have is for a USB 3/3.1 interface. While the 6P has USB-C it is USB 2.
I'm able to get audio out of my USB C port, but it's with a USB headset. Haven't tried it with a 3.5mm headphone adapter, but havd no reason to try it either.
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
Mgrev said:
This is weird. Because i have a pair of Sennheiser Urbanites (Wireless edition), and i can use bluetooth, aux, and usb (like for a computer) audio. I once tried to turn off the headsets (bluetooth off, aux and usb still works if connected), and turned off bluetooth on my phone. Then i used my USB type C to USB type A Female adapter (from the google store), and connected the usb-cable from the headsets into the type c adapter. it did output audio through the usb-cable.
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Bluetooth headphones usually have their own DAC, so the audio for all but the Aux is still being sent through the DAC first, which is supported by older USB standards.
The new USB 3.1 Audio standard can pass through analogue audio from the internal DAC, which is what I believe phones such as the Moto Z utilise. Otherwise the adapter would require it's own DAC, which would make it far larger and more expensive.
Not sure if you will find a good solution at the moment since they just created a standard for audio over usb c http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160927006252/en/USB-IF-Announces-USB-Audio-Device-Class-3.0
Did the amazon converter end up working for you?
My experience so far.
Hi, I ordered some usb c to 3.5mm & out of the box so far they aren't working. I tried Neutron and tried to force the audio to usb but unsuccessfully with phone not recognizing the USB connection.
On the other hand the type C to usb-a adapter worked beautifully using mixplorer. If I get working, will update. Thanks.

Improve headphone jack?

Hi!
I find that the original port jack delivers a sound of poor quality. The power of output is very low.
My question is: Do you think that using the USB type C port with an adaptator could improve the sound quality in my headphones?
Thank you
Buy a external dac or LG product
Did you try the v4a module in magisk with the profile given in this section of xda?
I was wondering if using an extarnal DAC (adaptator usb C to jack) could improve the quality
What is V4a module? is it necessary to be rooted?
thetoan said:
I was wondering if using an extarnal DAC (adaptator usb C to jack) could improve the quality
What is V4a module? is it necessary to be rooted?
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Yea, magisk/root is needed for the viper4android module to get the sound tweaks. I dont know what type of headset you got but it its bluetooth then make sure its APT X supported to get the best sound out of the non rooted phone.
These usb c to 3.5 with biuld in DAC are nice but you need to have a premium headset to enjoy from those.... these adapters are like 15 bucks and can do 16 and 24bit output.
RiTCHiE007 said:
Yea, magisk/root is needed for the viper4android module to get the sound tweaks. I dont know what type of headset you got but it its bluetooth then make sure its APT X supported to get the best sound out of the non rooted phone.
These usb c to 3.5 with biuld in DAC are nice but you need to have a premium headset to enjoy from those.... these adapters are like 15 bucks and can do 16 and 24bit output.
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Thank you!
I really want to improve the quality on the headphone jack.
Do you think that if I use an adaptator on the usb C port it will work?
thetoan said:
Thank you!
I really want to improve the quality on the headphone jack.
Do you think that if I use an adaptator on the usb C port it will work?
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yup ofcourse it will and it will be the same as the pixel 2 dongle. Just make sure you buy the correct one with a high res DAC in the cable and not these 2 dollar cheap one's that only convert digital to analog.
thetoan said:
Hi!
I find that the original port jack delivers a sound of poor quality. The power of output is very low.
My question is: Do you think that using the USB type C port with an adaptator could improve the sound quality in my headphones?
Thank you
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You will need a dongle that has a decent amplifier in order to get louder sound than stock without crazy distortion. Decent amplifiers are not cheap. Finding a dongle with a good dac/amp combo is probably the best way to accomplish this
Stick in something into the headphone jack, go to settings, audio and vibration, audio tuner
Play around till it fits your taste.

Moto G6 Better (WOW) Sound (found by mistake)

Hi. The audio is okay on the phone. Good with earphones but okay when I use the headphone jack to my car stereo input. Why not bluetooth? Its because direct connect provides the best sound. NOW HEAR THIS. I plugged in my essential phones usb head jack adapter (essential phone has no headphone jack but they do provide a USB C headphone jack dongle) and its like a WOW. I couldn't believe how much the quality of the audio improved. I am talking about tremendous improvement. Like a different phone WOW. Now whether it was due to essential having a dac chip in the dongle (I think it does) I have no clue. I was shocked because normally the question would be why does a dac chip USB C headphone cable work on a phone with a headphone jack? Did Moto decide at the last design phase was to include a built in jack? The dac cables only supposed to work on phone like the essential or the google pixel 2 etc if I am correct.. Well i am da.... sure glad it works on the Moto G6. How you proceed with what you get/prefer to purchase is up to you. I don't know what the end result will be because I truly don't know. The one I have from essential worked miracle wonders. I only suspect it will work with other USB C dongles with a dac chip. Man, i am digging this phones audio improvement. I am like WOW.
Check it out with something like Viper installed and disable Dolby for a little while to see if that also improves the sound. I use an aux cord to play music in my car as well the Viper HiFi Magisk module on top of tweaking some of my head unit settings, and it puts out some of the best sound for music. Can get my old 2004 Carolla to sound like it has a 10-11" sub in it just from the stock stereos and a Pioneer head unit ;p
Not really that big of a surprise, considering that my old Moto E4 would use a pair of USB-A headphones plugged into a OTG adapter. Feel free to call me out, but isn't the USB-C headphone dongle just getting talked to by the phone like a USB sound card?
Most newer (and some older) phones are all capable of USB audio routing. Just take a look in developer options to see some settings.

USB DAC/Soundcard

My J5's 3.5mm jack is broken.
Can I utilize the USB port as an alternative for Audio output with the help of any USB Soundcard/DACs?
BladeRunnerA2C said:
My J5's 3.5mm jack is broken.
Can I utilize the USB port as an alternative for Audio output with the help of any USB Soundcard/DACs?
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Tried some USB audio hardware with OTG and they work, although very low volume and when you want cheap option, it's a lottery to get a stereo one, as it tend to get mono output the time it gets lower volume. Consumes more battery too than using Bluetooth.
Better to get Bluetooth modules like from KZ's or TRN's and mod the module yourself. Or get a universal 3.5mm Bluetooth module.
I have mod my BT earphones and converted it to universal module that can power with 3 AA batteries years ago when I still have my J500H with broken jack.
Take note that both BT and USB will make FM never work if you still listen to FM.

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