Is there any specific technical reason why the Xperia XZ Premium does not offer Dolby Vision support? I am aware that at first Dolby's format required TV sets and media devices to be specifically designed with a Dolby Vision hardware chip, but modern media players SoC's should be able to decode and output Dolby Vision entirely via software.
So might DV still be on the cards from a technical standpoint or Dolby's licensing fees will prevent it from happening? Thanks for any clarification.
I think it will just be licensing fees and the fact that Sony is supporting the open format HDR10 on their TVs, Playstation, etc.
alexp999 said:
I think it will just be licensing fees and the fact that Sony is supporting the open format HDR10 on their TVs, Playstation, etc.
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As far as I know, Sony models that have the 4K HDR Processor X1 Extreme (such as the X930/X940E, Z9D, and A1E OLED series) will be getting Dolby Vision. (Unfortunately the X900E series uses the 4K HDR Processor X1 - non Extreme - and it will be left out in the cold.)
So would it still be technically possible to implement DV in the XZP if Sony and Dolby settled their licensing differences?
Why you want dolby vision? XZP has HDR 10, its probably the same as dolby vision.
HDR 10 sets the dynamic data once at the beginning of the video. Dolby Vision updates the data per frame (supposedly).
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It's okay to say "you're stupid" but I still wanna confirm that it will never ever happen to our XZ even with mod apk files/libs from XZS / XZP because super slow motion requires special hardware which is made exclusively for XZS / XZP? True?
Correct, it requires hardware to do it that we don't have.
There are indeed ported apk files/libs from XZs, but they only enable the interface and the basic slow motion recording functions, usually at 120fps instead of 960, so they work but there's still the hardware limitation, in any case it's good to be able to record in 120fps on older smartphones as well.
If the 960 is not up then 240
Snapdragon 845-855 have supported hdr recording, so I wonder if this feature can at least be enabled on phones with very capable hardware..
Hdr is enabled by default in the camera app. It can be turned off however.
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Hdr is enabled by default in the camera app. It can be turned off however.
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No. He meand HDR10 for videos... not pictures with HDR
Hdr10 is not very relevant right now. Future proof in a nutshell. The one plus already records in HDR, though I'm not sure which one in particular. The oneplus 7 pro is only officially certified to VIEW hdr10 content. I saw nothing about the phone being capable of producing it.
I haven't figure out to activate the HDR to watch videos
Does anybody knows how to do it?
@jetfire245 I'm not sure what you're talking about with future-proof. Maybe you're thinking of HDR10+ which only Samsung, and some international Phillips, TVs have? HDR10 has been around for at least 5 years.
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I've been thinking about buying an external DAC for some time to improve the sound coming out of the P30 with headphones. I had several options via Bluetooth in "receiver mode": for example the FIIO BTR3 or the Shanling M0. (I'm not sure that any of these devices will work via USB C with the P30, maybe they will.)
My question is, since the P30 has analog audio output unlike the P30 Pro, in addition to Dolby Atmos, I understand that it must have an internal DAC. Today I was testing it with a high quality FLAC and the truth is that it don't hear anything wrong with the audio output, but no matter how much I look I don't find waht internal DAC carries the P30, all specs are very generic, like "Hi-Fi Dac", but nothing concrete.
Does anyone know what DAC carries? And the most important thing: will I improve the sound with some of these external DACS of low range or they are not worth it?
Thank you, regards.
The only info I have seen so far is on GSMArena, where they report "32-bit/384kHz audio". I don't think anyone has published what DAC was actually used (assuming it's not built in the Kirin 980 itself).
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The only info I have seen so far is on GSMArena, where they report "32-bit/384kHz audio". I don't think anyone has published what DAC was actually used (assuming it's not built in the Kirin 980 itself).
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No, I'm pretty sure that Kirin 980 doesn't have an integrated DAC, not even the 970 had it, so the P20, P20 Pro and P30 Pro don't have analog output. If the P30 does, it's because it has its own DAC. The 960 did have a DAC and it is specified in the documentation.
"32-bit/384kHz audio", although it won't give us information about audio quality, it is very good numbers in terms of ability to handle files with that density. It's strange...
I'll keep investigating. I think it should have a good DAC, but I'm surprised that if it did, Huawei's marketing department wouldn't have taken advantage of this, instead, it seems like a secret subject.
Thanks.
I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
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I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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Thanks for the clarification. I haven't used the USB audio player yet. I'm really enjoying Amazon Music HD. Some of the remastered u
UHD songs are good but some of the more recent UHD content like Chainsmokers' albums sound phenomenal. I'll check out the audio player to see how it works.
So, Qualcomm said that Snapdragon 845 to 865 is capable to record HDR/HDR10/HDR10+/DOLBY VISION videos, our phone have the last and more powerful one.
The question is, we have this feature or not? I can't seem to find it anywhere on the system or camera app, the only mention to hdr is in the specsheet from oficial site.
The last samsung phones from s9 up have this, so processing power is not the factor.
If it can't do this is a hardware limitation or xiaomi reserved it for the ultra high priced flagships?
Maybe someone can figure it out.
This is the official video from Qualcomm, they said is recorded with S10s and N10s.
Researched a little more and find that SD865 can do other dozen of things that we dont have, like 4K 120fps record, 720p 960fps without limit and more... So, software limitation? Hardware? Poco forced by xiaomi limitation?
I am looking for the same. The dynamic range is too low in the stock camera, I want more than one frame to be taken and combined in the video to obtain a better dynamic range. The Snapdragon 865 is capable of doing that and I can't find a way to do it. I also remember seeing it in a Galaxy S9 +, it seems that Xiaomi limits us functions to give them to superior phones (Mi 10 Ultra i think?). I have not tried the ANX camera yet.
EDIT: Mi 10 ultra has "Dual ISO Fusion Super Dynamic technology", basically HDR recording.
There are some mods to enable hdr10 in miui like this but these mods are very old. I don't want or need the hdr10+, I'm just looking for Dual ISO recording, just like the mi 10 ultra.
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I am looking for the same. The dynamic range is too low in the stock camera, I want more than one frame to be taken and combined in the video to obtain a better dynamic range. The Snapdragon 865 is capable of doing that and I can't find a way to do it. I also remember seeing it in a Galaxy S9 +, it seems that Xiaomi limits us functions to give them to superior phones (Mi 10 Ultra i think?). I have not tried the ANX camera yet.
EDIT: Mi 10 ultra has "Dual ISO Fusion Super Dynamic technology", basically HDR recording.
There are some mods to enable hdr10 in miui like this but these mods are very old. I don't want or need the hdr10+, I'm just looking for Dual ISO recording, just like the mi 10 ultra.
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Some users said that IS the camera module/sensor that don't support so high Bandwidth, something with dram. They say that the camera module almost fryes when recording 8k vídeo...
But i don't think that It can handle 8k30 but not 1080pHDR or 720p960fps more than 1-2 seconds....
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Some users said that IS the camera module/sensor that don't support so high Bandwidth, something with dram. They say that the camera module almost fryes when recording 8k vídeo...
But i don't think that It can handle 8k30 but not 1080pHDR or 720p960fps more than 1-2 seconds....
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So the IMX586 sensor can and the version that supposedly followed it, the IMX686 can't? They could also have implemented it by software, making it shoot at 1080p 120 and interleave frames with different iso to form an hdr image at 1080p 30.
I think that Xiaomi's problem is that they have so many devices that they don't have time to develop each one well. (G translate)
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So the IMX586 sensor can and the version that supposedly followed it, the IMX686 can't? They could also have implemented it by software, making it shoot at 1080p 120 and interleave frames with different iso to form an hdr image at 1080p 30.
I think that Xiaomi's problem is that they have so many devices that they don't have time to develop each one well. (G translate)
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The imx586 can do hdr video? Which phone?
Maybe is software limitation by xiaomi to try sell their high end phones (mi10/pro/ultra)
Tino are you BR as well?
pocof2 can record hdr10 also with eis enabled. from 1080p-8k. but not with stock camera.
to get it working you must use the hvec codec("omx.qcom.video.encoder.hvec")
profile level: "hvec profile main10 hdr10 hvechightierlevel6"
then you can set the key org.quic.camera2.streamconfigs.HDRVideoMode to 1 for hlg or 2 for pq.
after that the poco records 10 bit.