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I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?
I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "
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Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol
As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.
Feeling Happy . Good News
Below The List It Shows : The next version of Android: 5.0 Lollipop
http://www.samsung.com/fi/info/update.html#mobile
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_bring_lollipop_to_s4_note_2_and_others-news-10566.php
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
Coming December 2015!
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I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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Was it easy to do on your AT&T S4??? Was everything working Wifi and connect to ATT Ok???
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Coming December 2015!
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Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
Punisher420 said:
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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StoneyJSG said:
Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
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Amen on SLOW AT&T UPDATES
Everything worked perfect first try
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Everything worked perfect first try
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You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
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You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
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Me as well, I ran @iB4STiD rom's for a long time then was forced into an update which locked my phone up so now I'm safestrapped for life. Really don't mind nj4 just want Lollipop. I have it on my Nexus 7 and with the update to 5.0.2 it's running smooth and quick.
Ask the important questions, man!
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
VladimirMan93 said:
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
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I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
VladimirMan93 said:
I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
Albie_Stark said:
It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
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I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
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I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
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OMG!! I supouse that.... but it is ok for me, my phone was manufactured on 11-28-14,I bought it on december 12 if you want to see the whole story look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/bought-i9505-china-i337-bootloader-t2985230
@VladimirMan93 the answer to our pain
BehrendsTech said:
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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Or at the very least stop the store worker from updating it when you first activate it. When I bought mine she took it out of the box, turned it on and immediately accepted the update notification and installed it after it downloaded when she put the screen protector on..
@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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I would have had I known that AT&T locked their bootloaders. This is the first phone that I have owned that had one, and until I tried to mess around with it I had no idea that one could lock a bootloader.
Sadly, I won't be able to get the Lollipop update unless I want my phone locked down forever because I am one of the few people that is still on the MDL firmware which can use the LOKI bootloader bypass to boot custom ROMs.
So I just picked up a refurbished Sprint v20. It is currently at zv3 so i'll be able to use Dirty Santa. My issue is do I? I know there's no going back since there isnt a factory image for Sprint.
If you've unlocked, are you happy you did so?
Very happy. but im biased since i made it...
Well, I didn't need much convincing. Thanks! Very smooth process, it's really nice to actually have TWRP on a lg phone again. Haven't had that since my LG G2.
yea it was a no brainer for me coming from a sgs7e , i hated the fact i could not do nanddroids or flash custom roms, i love my v20.
Bootloader possibly unlocked
So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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So I just called Sprint and reemed them on how there bootloader practices are illegal and that this is an open source phone. Not an Iphone. My device is paid off ect. They supposedly are fully unlocking it as we speak. In the mid of a six hour phase I guess. I was told not to reboot during six hours. On ZVD firmware btw. If this does happen to get fully unlocked including bootloader ect., can I finally root my phone? I really hope so. I am running out of options.
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I wouldn't hold my breath, at most they may unlock the sim, the bootloader I doubt it
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Good luck, first time I've ever heard sprint voluntarily unlock a bootloader
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Well at around 4/5pm est. I am going to check. When I reboot it should tell me if unlocked right? If its not, then I will call again. I specifically told them bootloader and reasked. She said yes and that I will able to do whatever I want to with it. My network was already unlocked as well before I even called.
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Any news?
Any news?
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Any news?
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Sadly I did not notice any difference. I got an Android update message a few times. That happens daily though. I will call them tomorrow. Had a few unforseen events happen that strained original plans. Either way this is bull****. They should not be allowed to lock an open source down. I am trying to get this taken care of. Hard fighting corruption.
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Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
Phoenix591 said:
Open source doesn't mean you have to have an unlocked bootloader. Open source just means you must be provided with a copy of the source code of the open source components (some parts are closed source), which LG has complied by allowing anyone access through this site.
Personally I'd be surprised if it's even technically feasible for them to unlock your bootloader.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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Ok...well anyway not being able to root is still garbage. Especially on a device that is paid off. I only pay for service.
Love also how - the variant is rootable and this one is not game. So should I be mad a Sprint or LG? Whos fault is it?Rooting is perfectly legal. Seems blocking it is just as legal in this case.
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You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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cnjax said:
You can blame Sprint, and Instead of spending so much time being angry and posting your frustration on here, why not just get another phone that you can root?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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Because this has the flagships that I want. Except root. Cant even find a rootable one to buy unless I get a non sprint phone. I am also not posting out of anger, but for irritation of companies thinking that thay can do what ever and we have to take it.
Was wondering tho, if I am network unlocked, cant I take to a different carrier and their firmware would replace Sprints ZVD one (cdma I know) , and then be able to root via that phone/firmware method?
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If it wasn't for antirollback (all other firmware, except the h918 which has a different key so no other variant can flash it, is antirollback 0) you could, but the way it is you'd brick if you forced it on there.
Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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Ok then. Well thank you for info everyone. Im just going to be a lump on a log for awhile.
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You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
pro_granade said:
There is a way to go back, I made a thread detailing the method to restore with a stock aboot image.
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What one?
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clsA said:
You should have gotten the Essential phone on one of their many deals ($140 with Sprint)($225 on Amazon)
Its really the only phone I found that replaced my AT&T v20 and I'm enjoying Android Pie allot (we got the Sept security update yesterday)
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It does not have the dual cam, and removable battery like the v20. I have my reasons. Believe me . Only issue is Sprint not being able to root...supposedly. Pro_Granade kinda has my hopes up atm lol
I know, I know, WHY DID I BUY THE VERIZON PIXEL 2? Well, i actually got it as a gift from my parents, they got the BestBuy 100$ off so they thought it was a good deal. I personally had a Nexus 6P but my battery was completely dying and i bought it from newegg so i cant rma it. I got it today and i love it, but its so weird without the ability to use still like greenify, adblock, titanium backup, etc. So is there a guess of when there will be a bootloader unlock if there will be one?
Was there ever an unlock for the Verizon Pixel? Therein lies your answer.
mtoomey79 said:
Was there ever an unlock for the Verizon Pixel? Therein lies your answer.
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Not sure if joking/sarcasm, but there was an unlock for the Pixel but it was discovered by accident. Definitely no guarantee for it this time around.
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Not sure if joking/sarcasm, but there was an unlock for the Pixel but it was discovered by accident. Definitely no guarantee for it this time around.
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There is a guarantee. It won't happen.
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There is a guarantee. It won't happen.
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That's a silly assumption...
I guess we can only hope the same thing happens. Im going to keep it for updating for as long as I can.
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I guess we can only hope the same thing happens. Im going to keep it for updating for as long as I can.
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What do you mean? Why would you not update? You will never get root on that device so either sell it or live with it. Not updating will only make your device less secure. Besides, you'll need to update to the November patch in order to fix the Krack wifi exploit. This is not a silly assumption, this is fact. I'd be more than happy to eat my words at some point but for now the sugar is in the back of the cabinet.
All we need is a bounty thread at this point. You know that's next right? This way everyone complaining about Verizon can go to one place to rant and not all over the boards.
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I know, I know, WHY DID I BUY THE VERIZON PIXEL 2? Well, i actually got it as a gift from my parents, they got the BestBuy 100$ off so they thought it was a good deal. I personally had a Nexus 6P but my battery was completely dying and i bought it from newegg so i cant rma it. I got it today and i love it, but its so weird without the ability to use still like greenify, adblock, titanium backup, etc. So is there a guess of when there will be a bootloader unlock if there will be one?
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Your choice is, buy a google version then sell the Vz one.
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Your choice is, buy a google version then sell the Vz one.
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Agreed. But if he got it as a gift then his options might be limited if it was not bought outright. I'd just say live with it, most people aren't rooting any longer anyway. There is no root yet although that might be coming when images are released. Bootloader unlock, however, on the Verizon Pixels is not going to happen anytime soon, if ever. And to the OP, @Etheralrealm you don't need TiB if you're not flashing roms really. Greenify is a waste with this device and Adaway has some VPN alternatives. I'd just enjoy the device and forget about messing with it.
Yeah, it was bought on a payment plan so my options with selling it are kind of limited.
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Agreed. But if he got it as a gift then his options might be limited if it was not bought outright. I'd just say live with it, most people aren't rooting any longer anyway. There is no root yet although that might be coming when images are released. Bootloader unlock, however, on the Verizon Pixels is not going to happen anytime soon, if ever. And to the OP, @Etheralrealm you don't need TiB if you're not flashing roms really. Greenify is a waste with this device and Adaway has some VPN alternatives. I'd just enjoy the device and forget about messing with it.
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I brought it back to Verizon and since it was only a few days they actually were willing to reverse my purchase. I ordered a 6P battery kit and it is working great again, hope it lasts!
Just got my ZFlip3 today and was wondering what's the best way to root it. OEM unlock isn't an option in my developer options but i can still get into download mode by holding volume buttons connected to USB. Total noob here, is there any hope for my us region phone?
Samsung has not supported unlocking the bootloader on US models since the Galaxy S7 if I remember correctly
luigi90210 said:
Samsung has not supported unlocking the bootloader on US models since the Galaxy S7 if I remember correctly
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I keep hearing that, but my Note 20 Ultra had OEM Unlock
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I keep hearing that, but my Note 20 Ultra had OEM Unlock
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so there's hope for me? ;-;
(side note, this phone was a birthday present, i prolly should've told my dad to never buy it from at&t lol)
duckspacito said:
so there's hope for me? ;-;
(side note, this phone was a birthday present, i prolly should've told my dad to never buy it from at&t lol)
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It was there when I got it, though.
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so there's hope for me? ;-;
(side note, this phone was a birthday present, i prolly should've told my dad to never buy it from at&t lol)
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No. The only way to unlock bootloaders from the US models in recent history has been a hacked, remote bootloader unlock that they're charging $150 for.
Edit: And the process isn't out for the flip or fold, to my knowledge.
I'm willing to bet Twistedumbrella simply doesn't have a US model.
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No. The only way to unlock bootloaders from the US models in recent history has been a hacked, remote bootloader unlock that they're charging $150 for.
Edit: And the process isn't out for the flip or fold, to my knowledge.
I'm willing to bet Twistedumbrella simply doesn't have a US model.
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How much? Although, it would be less of a bet than a donation knowing you've already lost. It was a Note 20 Ultra unlocked US model purchased from Samsung.
twistedumbrella said:
How much? Although, it would be less of a bet than a donation knowing you've already lost. It was a Note 20 Ultra unlocked US model purchased from Samsung.
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Then you're the only person in the country to get one. CONGRATS!
Needless to say, you're one out of a million people in the US who got it, and it's not available to anyone on the Flip3. You're just spreading false info. And honestly, until there's proof, I 100% don't believe you about your Note.
Edit: You know, you keep saying your phone had "OEM unlock" but you never actually said you unlocked the bootloader. You do realize that earlier Samsung phones had an OEM unlock option that just did nothing, correct?
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Then you're the only person in the country to get one. CONGRATS!
Needless to say, you're one out of a million people in the US who got it, and it's not available to anyone on the Flip3. You're just spreading false info. And honestly, until there's proof, I 100% don't believe you about your Note.
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It is just one more reason I wish I hadn't traded it in on this phone. I honestly didn't even know it wasn't supposed to be there until I got this one and it wasn't, but the glass also wasn't supposed to peel away from the panel. The guy who had to replace it said the same thing about being one in a million.
Don't worry. I wasn't going to hold you to the bet, even if I had a screenshot.
twistedumbrella said:
I keep hearing that, but my Note 20 Ultra had OEM Unlock
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I call nonsense unless you got a non USA model with the Exynos SOC.
All USA phones have the snapdragon SOC and have for about 5 years.
The snapdragon version has no publicly known method to unlock the bootloader and it definitely doesn't have the button in dev mode.
I wouldn't mind you using screen record and making a video showing us that you have a snapdragon soc AND an unlock bootloader button.
d0x360 said:
I call nonsense unless you got a non USA model with the Exynos SOC.
All USA phones have the snapdragon SOC and have for about 5 years.
The snapdragon version has no publicly known method to unlock the bootloader and it definitely doesn't have the button in dev mode.
I wouldn't mind you using screen record and making a video showing us that you have a snapdragon soc AND an unlock bootloader button.
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twistedumbrella said:
It is just one more reason I wish I hadn't traded it in on this phone. I honestly didn't even know it wasn't supposed to be there until I got this one and it wasn't, but the glass also wasn't supposed to peel away from the panel. The guy who had to replace it said the same thing about being one in a million.
Don't worry. I wasn't going to hold you to the bet, even if I had a screenshot.
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Believe me or not. It honestly won't change anything.
twistedumbrella said:
Believe me or not. It honestly won't change anything.
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It's hard to believe considering there seems to be no other case of a snapdragon edition having the option. Unlock carrier yes. Bootloader... No.
It just doesn't make sense that you would get a phone that was running the Exynos version of the firmware on a snapdragon device and the device still worked...
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It's hard to believe considering there seems to be no other case of a snapdragon edition having the option. Unlock carrier yes. Bootloader... No.
It just doesn't make sense that you would get a phone that was running the Exynos version of the firmware on a snapdragon device and the device still worked...
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Couldn't tell you. Had it not been for the screen coming apart, I would probably still have it and not even know anything was unusual. The irony of being the one device I chose not to root.
twistedumbrella said:
Couldn't tell you. Had it not been for the screen coming apart, I would probably still have it and not even know anything was unusual. The irony of being the one device I chose not to root.
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It's certainly an interesting mystery. Id love to get my hands on it and try to figure out how it works in the hope that it would lead to a way to unlock the bootloader on current models.
Perhaps the setting is technically there but hidden by a flag and something happened on your device to flip that flag...
You certainly have me very curious despite my skepticism. I'm gonna go digging... I'm also going to start messaging eBay sellers in hope of finding another snapdragon device with the option available.
Then maybe we could enjoy root without the insane method that requires $150. Hell I'd settle for just having TWRP again.
Sorry I'm a little late to the conversation but here's your unlocked snapdragon. Google is your friend.
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It's hard to believe considering there seems to be no other case of a snapdragon edition having the option. Unlock carrier yes. Bootloader... No.
It just doesn't make sense that you would get a phone that was running the Exynos version of the firmware on a snapdragon device and the device still worked...
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Haz3 said:
Sorry I'm a little late to the conversation but here's your unlocked snapdragon. Google is your friend.
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Yeah uhm... Plenty of people have spoken to our "friend" Google and haven't found anything.
2 screenshots? Screenshots can be faked. How about before you take a light jab at someone you actually prove them (and everyone else) wrong and post the actual method to unlock the bootloader and get root.
Don't worry we will wait... Of course we won't be holding out breath.
Search the Note 20 Ultra Forum. I don't have the actual method. All I can tell you is I have a Note 20 Ultra 5g from Google Fi, unlocked and rooted. I bought the phone from Google Fi locked. Yes I paid for it but so what, I got the device for half price on a promotion.
Does anything in my post history dictate that I would make some **** up like this? I don't need to impress anybody but spreading misinformation isn't cool. It's entirely possible to get a Snapdragon bootloader unlocked.
Edit: to say the first result is the service I used. Sampwnd
Haz3 said:
Search the Note 20 Ultra Forum. I don't have the actual method. All I can tell you is I have a Note 20 Ultra 5g from Google Fi, unlocked and rooted. I bought the phone from Google Fi locked. Yes I paid for it but so what, I got the device for half price on a promotion.
Does anything in my post history dictate that I would make some **** up like this? I don't need to impress anybody but spreading misinformation isn't cool. It's entirely possible to get a Snapdragon bootloader unlocked.View attachment 5464933
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Maybe it was possible to get THAT phone's boot loader unlocked but it's not on any other USA Samsung phone.
Just look at the forums for every USA Samsung phone since the note 8 or 9. Nothing. If it were possible then there would be plenty of roms, kernels etc for USA phones.
So apparently the note 20 ultra fi version can be unlocked... But that doesn't help anyone else.
Wait a min... You aren't talking about that send us your phone crap are you?
d0x360 said:
Wait a min... You aren't talking about that send us your phone crap are you?
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Nope