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I just got this a few days ago and I notice its lacking a lot. There is no development for it? No lollipop update either? Is there even root for it? What's going on? Should I swap it out for an s6 while im still within my 15 days of activation?
Not a lot of development for any note edge. Sorry. Sprint and att are the only 2 of the big 4 in the us updated. I havent tried to re root but i read it is the same process and doable. My bud has the t mobile and still waiting on the 5.0 update for his edge. Just wasnt a very well advertised phone. With the s6 edge doing so good the next note edge should take off a lot better and will have much more development. It is what it is man
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The s6 edge was way over advertised, and opposite for the note. Which sucks because I don't think the s6 is beer in any way, shape, or form.
Id say stick with the Edge it has more features than the s6 in my opinion and development for the edge will pick up
I can't wait lol
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Id say stick with the Edge it has more features than the s6 in my opinion and development for the edge will pick up
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Boy i sure hope so. I agree the note edge is superior from the s6 edge. S6 has a nice build and all and the built in wireless charging is a big plus for it. I just hope the next note versions dont go losing the removable back and micro sd slot. They got to get the wireless charging built in i would hope.
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Wireless charging is easy to acquire though, the s6 will never have an s pen, removable battery, or sd slot.
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I just got this a few days ago and I notice its lacking a lot. There is no development for it? No lollipop update either? Is there even root for it? What's going on? Should I swap it out for an s6 while im still within my 15 days of activation?
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I think you are better off getting the s6. The note 5 will released in in 5 months, and the resell value of the s6 will be greater than the note edge. Also once Samsung pay drops that will be a huge deal, better fingerprint scanner, camera, and screen. Yes you lose removable battery but I've swapped out my note 2,3,4 & edge battery probably a total of 10 times. You can completely charge the s6 in 80 minutes. As for sd card slot there's a ton of work arounds, get 128gb version, cloud, buy a portable keychain sd card. The s6 will get much more attention, the note edge was samsung prototype.... I'll tried you my mint condition note edge +100 for an s6 edge anyday
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That makes no sense though, there's no realistic detail that makes the s6 better other than popularity. You can't even use the edges on the s6 got anything productive.
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That makes no sense though, there's no realistic detail that makes the s6 better other than popularity. You can't even use the edges on the s6 got anything productive.
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Exactly my thoughts! seems like Samsung went backwards with the S6, reminds me of a Google Nexus or dare I say Iphone, Samsung lost its key features on the S6 that made Samsung phones popular
Well, I have a week left on my 14 day trial with Verizon to swap out my note for something else. I really like it, but if there's something better out there I could be stuck with for a couple years.
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Wireless charging is easy to acquire though, the s6 will never have an s pen, removable battery, or sd slot.
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Yes but i think it should be there out of the box is all i meant.
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The Verizon Note Edge is unlikely to see any development, from what I've seen. The locked bootloader is apparently a real problem.
An important thing to keep in mind here is that the Note Edge sold 600,000 units worldwide. The S6 and the S6 Edge sold 20 million units in preorders alone.
There just aren't enough of these devices in the hands of people knowledgeable enough to develop for them. It's sad, but there isn't much that can be done about it.
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The Verizon Note Edge is unlikely to see any development, from what I've seen. The locked bootloader is apparently a real problem.
An important thing to keep in mind here is that the Note Edge sold 600,000 units worldwide. The S6 and the S6 Edge sold 20 million units in preorders alone.
There just aren't enough of these devices in the hands of people knowledgeable enough to develop for them. It's sad, but there isn't much that can be done about it.
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From what I understand it was 630,000 units over 2 months ago. Due to quite a few reasons though. Mainly, it was meant to be an expensive limited edition device not available to too many areas. Also because the regular note 4 had sold 4.5 million devices in less than a month, right before the edges release. I think we'll see the edge pickup big time, because everyone is getting familiar with the s6 edge, they're going to eventually realize, the note edge is a bigger, more functional version of that, with an s pen and a fully usable edge. I think it's going to be one of those devices that become more popular once people realize what it is.
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From what I understand it was 630,000 units over 2 months ago. Due to quite a few reasons though. Mainly, it was meant to be an expensive limited edition device not available to too many areas. Also because the regular note 4 had sold 4.5 million devices in less than a month, right before the edges release. I think we'll see the edge pickup big time, because everyone is getting familiar with the s6 edge, they're going to eventually realize, the note edge is a bigger, more functional version of that, with an s pen and a fully usable edge. I think it's going to be one of those devices that become more popular once people realize what it is.
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They should sell the Note Edge as a "limited edition" and number them! :good: It will either hold its value better because it is unique and limited or it will be so limited as to have no interest at all...
Well, it was time to make a decision since the Bootloader is locked; TMobile and Samsung obviously will not engage on this endeavor. Samsung Pay is their baby, and it is my money and desire for freedom.
I have just printed out my shipping label, and headed to the UPS Store to send my SGS7 EDGE back to TMobile.
I will purchase the LG G5 on the 29, get a free battery and cradle changer.........or the free 360 camera thingy they're also making as a free option.
Good luck to the guys and gals working on root. Samsung just lost a customer!
Such a gorgeous device to go to waste. Why didn't you keep the s7 edge as your "go out phone" and buy a Nexus if you want an unlocked bootloader with ALOT of roms. I mean I still have my note 4 that I returned to stock or I can root again....do I need to?? Naaah, sometimes lol.but seriously I would have kept the note 4 and buy a stock Android as my rooted device and the Galaxy as the secure "go-out" device....
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Well, it was time to make a decision since the Bootloader is locked; TMobile and Samsung obviously will not engage on this endeavor. Samsung Pay is their baby, and it is my money and desire for freedom.
I have just printed out my shipping label, and headed to the UPS Store to send my SGS7 EDGE back to TMobile.
I will purchase the LG G5 on the 29, get a free battery and cradle changer.........or the free 360 camera thingy they're also making as a free option.
Good luck to the guys and gals working on root. Samsung just lost a customer!
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Odds are this will be the new norm. Tmobile was the last man standing on bootloader and now they fall too. I imagine the g5 will be locked also. It sucks, I was so excited to try aosp on this phone too.
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I imagine the g5 will be locked also.
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Yeah, google that. I read it somewhere recently but can't remember where. I think it's the SD820 curse.
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And again, more disappointment. Another phone with a locked bootloader! I spoke to LG and T-mobile tech support. Of course they both are playing the blame game on one another but bottom line is is that the LG G5 will be locked down just like the Samsung S7. I was told we would have to wait to see if an unlock option comes out down the road like the G4 had. What another let down....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-g5/how-to/t-mobile-lg-g5-locked-bootloader-t3344348
I'm very confident that as with the LG G4, LG again will provide the bootloader unlock for DEVs via their Lge.com website. LG gets it. Samsung doesn't.
I also believe it's going to be LG's time to shine. If LG does right by LG G5 owners, Samsung will see a great amount of otherwise loyal customers flock to LG. It would be a great business move.
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Such a gorgeous device to go to waste. Why didn't you keep the s7 edge as your "go out phone" and buy a Nexus if you want an unlocked bootloader with ALOT of roms. I mean I still have my note 4 that I returned to stock or I can root again....do I need to?? Naaah, sometimes lol.but seriously I would have kept the note 4 and buy a stock Android as my rooted device and the Galaxy as the secure "go-out" device....
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I have a Sony Xperia Z3, as well as a Samsung Galaxy S4. So buying the S7 isn't in line with my rooting trend.
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I also believe it's going to be LG's time to shine. If LG does right by LG G5 owners, Samsung will see a great amount of otherwise loyal customers flock to LG. It would be a great business move.
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So your telling me a lot of people will opt for an ugly modular phone that's missing many of the s7 features just because you want root? I guess, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Trust me.
..a lot of people don't care about root anymore...I'm one of them...do I want to? Yes, everyone does. Do I personally absolutely NEED IT, enough to give up on this phone that's everything we wanted from samsung? No thanks [emoji106] [emoji2] [emoji2]
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I have been a devout member of the rooting community since the G1 days. I have a 6P, but frankly I have been using this device since release day and I am beyond happy with it. Touchwiz has dramatically improved even from the S6 era Lollipop builds. The hardware is beautiful and powerful. Excepting the ability to fully uninstall bloat. I am personally very happy with the S7 Edge : )
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So your telling me a lot of people will opt for an ugly modular phone that's missing many of the s7 features just because you want root? I guess, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Trust me.
..a lot of people don't care about root anymore...I'm one of them...do I want to? Yes, everyone does. Do I personally absolutely NEED IT, enough to give up on this phone that's everything we wanted from samsung? No thanks [emoji106] [emoji2] [emoji2]
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Some of you guys are killing me when it comes to saying that the LG G5 is ugly. It's not an ugly phone at all. I must admit it doesn't look as nice as having a two-sided glass body but at the end of the day you and I as well as other people making purchases of smartphones will most likely keep our phones in a case. As such it does not matter what the form looks like as long as you can see the screen.
As far as features are concerned I would be hard-pressed to say that the LG G5 is a handicap phone in features when compared to the Galaxy S 7.
In fact there are technical details that the LG G5 have that the Samsung Galaxy S7 does not such as USB 3.0 fast charge 3.0 USB type-c as well as other features such as the most excellent manual mode of their camera. Not to mention the wide-angle photo shops. And if you don't like the modular friends well that's just a matter of opinion because those friends do serve a purpose. Another feature that I love on the LG G5 the fact that they're always on notification screen can be used with all apps not just couple like on the Galaxy S 7. I think you really need to read around to get all the details on the LG G5. you're overly claiming that the S7 is superior when in fact it's really not. To me the only thing that I really shows us a great advantage on is being water resistant.
LG has also provided an unlock bootloader website for the G4, so I see this again happening with the G5.
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Some of you guys are killing me when it comes to saying that the LG G5 is ugly. It's not an ugly phone at all. I must admit it doesn't look as nice as having a two-sided glass body but at the end of the day you and I as well as other people making purchases of smartphones will most likely keep our phones in a case. As such it does not matter what the form looks like as long as you can see the screen.
As far as features are concerned I would be hard-pressed to say that the LG G5 is a handicap phone and features when compared to the Galaxy S 7.
In fact there are technical details that the LG G5 have that the Samsung Galaxy S7 does not such as USB 3.0 fast charge 3.0 USB type-c as well as other features such as the most excellent manual mode of their camera. Not to mention the wide-angle photo shops. And if you don't like the modular friends well that's just a matter of opinion because those friends do serve a purpose. Another feature that I love on the LG G5 the fact that they're always on notification screen can be used with all apps not just couple like on the Galaxy S 7. I think you really need to read around to get all the details on the LG G5. you're overly claiming that the S7 is superior when in fact it's really not. To me the only thing that I really shows us a great advantage on is being water resistant.
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The LG g5 is ugly when you compare it to the s7 edge, the phone itself is not too bad. But we DO have manual mode, it's called "Pro" mode under your camera ....and we also do have 180° photos. I mean geez samsung came up with that too. And LG friends. Dude there selling you a 650$ phone, with "friends" that cost upwards of 80$. True story. And that's for the battery [emoji24] [emoji24] . Not to mention the Galaxy s7 edge already has a big battery, way better camera than the LG g5 i mean it is the best camera on a smartphone. Water resistant, Vulkan API? PSft. VR (the LG vr don't hook up to your phone I beleave) we got the ever so great super AMOLED display. Built in wireless charging yada yada yada...I can go a long time talking about the features, but in sure you know them...
So yeah galaxy s7 is superior. In every test, land(dust) air or sea( water resistant) [emoji13] you guys just want LG because you THINK they will not have there bootloaders locked, in Wich case that's cool. But I'll keep my beastly s7 and buy a Nexus for rooting and stuff. I'm not downgrading to the G5. The world isn't ready for modular phones ..and geez $80 for and battery? Haha in wonder how much there most intriguing "friend" will cost...(B&O audio)
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The LG g5 is ugly when you compare it to the s7 edge, the phone itself is not too bad. But we DO have manual mode, it's called "Pro" mode under your camera ....and we also do have 180° photos. I mean geez samsung came up with that too. And LG friends. Dude there selling you a 650$ phone, with "friends" that cost upwards of 80$. True story. And that's for the battery [emoji24] [emoji24] . Not to mention the Galaxy s7 edge already has a big battery, way better camera than the LG g5 i mean it is the best camera on a smartphone. Water resistant, Vulkan API? PSft. VR (the LG vr don't hook up to your phone I beleave) we got the ever so great super AMOLED display. Built in wireless charging yada yada yada...I can go a long time talking about the features, but in sure you know them...
So yeah galaxy s7 is superior. In every test, land(dust) air or sea( water resistant) [emoji13] you guys just want LG because you THINK they will not have there bootloaders locked, in Wich case that's cool. But I'll keep my beastly s7 and buy a Nexus for rooting and stuff. I'm not downgrading to the G5. The world isn't ready for modular phones ..and geez $80 for and battery? Haha in wonder how much there most intriguing "friend" will cost...(B&O audio)
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Battery? Come on. Let's not act as if we don't prefer a removable battery. Besides, the phones come with a free spare battery and cradle changer. A TMobile rep told me their also giving away a free 360 cam as an option in lieu of a battery.
AMOLED screen, yes it's very nice, but not a game winning feature for all.
Wireless charge, THAT is cool.
VR using the phone, I could care less for. Not into that which is why I didn't request it.
Now, as a heavy data transfer guy I most certainly prefer USB 3.0. And Fast Charge 3.0. Samsung screwed that up with electing to use 2.0 versions for their USB and charging. Be real.
As for the world not ready for a modular phone????That's nonsensical. The world at one point was not ready for a touch screen phone but look where we are now. The world was not ready to give up blackberries but look where we are now. The world was not ready to give up the iPhone but look where we are now.
For my use, I made a mistake even choosing the S7 but the hype and buy one get one free promotion got me.
At the end of the day we should all see what's what when the G5 is finally released.
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Battery? Come on. Let's not act as if we don't prefer a removable battery. Besides, the phones come with a free spare battery and cradle changer. A TMobile rep told me their also giving away a free 360 cam as an option in lieu of a battery.
AMOLED screen, yes it's very nice, but not a game winning feature for all.
Wireless charge, THAT is cool.
VR using the phone, I could care less for. Not into that which is why I didn't request it.
Now, as a heavy data transfer guy I most certainly prefer USB 3.0. And Fast Charge 3.0. Samsung screwed that up with electing to use 2.0 versions for their USB and charging. Be real.
As for the world not ready for a modular phone????That's nonsensical. The world at one point was not ready for a touch screen phone but look where we are now. The world was not ready to give up blackberries but look where we are now. The world was not ready to give up the iPhone but look where we are now.
For my use, I made a mistake even choosing the S7 but the hype and buy one get one free promotion got me.
At the end of the day we should all see what's what when the G5 is finally released.
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I DO prefer a removable battery lol I have two for my note 4 buy it don't use it. And that's cool lol the least they can do is give people some free stuff like samsung did. It's only right. And I didn't like VR back in the stage I left with the note 4s "innovator edition" it had little apps and it got old quick, however now we have netflix/Hulu in oculus store along with other great apps/games and experience. I will say this version is much better than the innovator edition I had for my note 4. VR aside.
I do like usb 3.0 but didn't we have that with the note 3?? And I agree samsung screwed us for not supporting fast charge 3.0. But that's because they don't need too, maybe lol. Like I said the LG g5 is not a bead phone, but it's obvious as of now this bad boy is sitting at the top of the pyramid. Google has been inventing the modular phone for along time now and they aren't taking the risk yet because it's not ready....at least LG took one for the team. There both great phones though. It's all about preference ??
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you guys are mad funny trying to defend the s7 without root. it blows. very underwhelming. returned it on my 13th day. my 6p is faster and more fluid than the s7 with the sd820. i reallly dont know how they could make the phone lag with that much processing power, but congrats samsung, you did it. as far as t-mobile being the 'last man standing' as far as unlocked bootloaders go.. did you forget about sprint? every phone that has ever come out unlocked on t-mobile has been unlocked on sprint. sprint doesnt give af. i could care less about the g5. htc m10 is where its gonna be, same specs as s7 and the rest, except they probably wont gimp the processor like samsung.. and guaranteed bootloader unlock-able through htc.dev. not to mention they went back to the capacitive buttons, ditched the giant black bar, home button/fingerprint scanner.. yea they ditched the dual stereo speakers on front, but boomsound will still be there, and i wouldnt be surprised if the earpiece is a media speaker itself. most likely a better camera, win win win win. the s7 will outsell it by leaps and bounds, doesnt mean shiz though, just sheep flocking to the new iphone. the m10 will get crazy dev support. win win win win
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htc m10 is where its gonna be, same specs as s7 and the rest, except they probably wont gimp the processor like samsung.. and guaranteed bootloader unlock-able through htc.dev. not to mention they went back to the capacitive buttons, ditched the giant black bar, home button/fingerprint scanner.. yea they ditched the dual stereo speakers on front, but boomsound will still be there, and i wouldnt be surprised if the earpiece is a media speaker itself. most likely a better camera, win win win win. the s7 will outsell it by leaps and bounds, doesnt mean shiz though, just sheep flocking to the new iphone. the m10 will get crazy dev support. win win win win
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Yeah, they are saying it will have a game-changing camera--just like they did with the M7, M8, M9... Every Sammy flagship comes with a great camera no exceptions. And doing SuperAMOLED then going back to LCD is pretty meh IMO.
And we'll see about that bootloader when the M10 comes out. Word has it that the G5 will be locked down like the S7/S7E. This is starting to look like a common feature with the SD820.
I might have to wait for the M10 too LOL
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So your telling me a lot of people will opt for an ugly modular phone that's missing many of the s7 features just because you want root? I guess, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Trust me.
..a lot of people don't care about root anymore...I'm one of them...do I want to? Yes, everyone does. Do I personally absolutely NEED IT, enough to give up on this phone that's everything we wanted from samsung? No thanks [emoji106] [emoji2] [emoji2]
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Truest statement yet. I'd take root Yes! Want root Yes!
But i know how to modify it enough ways for my liking without root needed using other methods and similar No root needed apps.
To good of a phone to let go .
BTW I had bashed this device from day 1 once first time around .
And I apologize to the s7 for that and the forum. Already repurchased a 2nd and learning to live without root, kinda tough like not smoking something we can learn to live with .
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you guys are mad funny trying to defend the s7 without root. it blows. very underwhelming. returned it on my 13th day. my 6p is faster and more fluid than the s7 with the sd820. i reallly dont know how they could make the phone lag with that much processing power, but congrats samsung, you did it. as far as t-mobile being the 'last man standing' as far as unlocked bootloaders go.. did you forget about sprint? every phone that has ever come out unlocked on t-mobile has been unlocked on sprint. sprint doesnt give af. i could care less about the g5. htc m10 is where its gonna be, same specs as s7 and the rest, except they probably wont gimp the processor like samsung.. and guaranteed bootloader unlock-able through htc.dev. not to mention they went back to the capacitive buttons, ditched the giant black bar, home button/fingerprint scanner.. yea they ditched the dual stereo speakers on front, but boomsound will still be there, and i wouldnt be surprised if the earpiece is a media speaker itself. most likely a better camera, win win win win. the s7 will outsell it by leaps and bounds, doesnt mean shiz though, just sheep flocking to the new iphone. the m10 will get crazy dev support. win win win win
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Only shaky things with the m10 are battery life and s-off. If they get the battery life right and s-off is achieved the phone will be a winner, maybe. The m9 didn't quite get nearly as much development as the m8. I'm itching to get xposed and root so bad... I really want to fix some of the ugly and get my media gestures back. The edge is nice but the phone can get chuggy here and there and with Samsung seemingly more invested in the exynos version it might be a good idea for me to get the 10 or wait for the Nexus.
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you guys are mad funny trying to defend the s7 without root. it blows. very underwhelming. returned it on my 13th day. my 6p is faster and more fluid than the s7 with the sd820. i reallly dont know how they could make the phone lag with that much processing power, but congrats samsung, you did it. as far as t-mobile being the 'last man standing' as far as unlocked bootloaders go.. did you forget about sprint? every phone that has ever come out unlocked on t-mobile has been unlocked on sprint. sprint doesnt give af. i could care less about the g5. htc m10 is where its gonna be, same specs as s7 and the rest, except they probably wont gimp the processor like samsung.. and guaranteed bootloader unlock-able through htc.dev. not to mention they went back to the capacitive buttons, ditched the giant black bar, home button/fingerprint scanner.. yea they ditched the dual stereo speakers on front, but boomsound will still be there, and i wouldnt be surprised if the earpiece is a media speaker itself. most likely a better camera, win win win win. the s7 will outsell it by leaps and bounds, doesnt mean shiz though, just sheep flocking to the new iphone. the m10 will get crazy dev support. win win win win
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Not to go against u but here was my experience with both. I. Really waanted to retur. The galaxy s7 edge and keep my nexus 6p. Which was rooted, stock rom, custom kernel. Was smooth and fast.
I receive my gs7 edge and the nexus 6p was not faster but smoother in alot of occasions. Was noticably slower. After a few days of switch sim from one phone to another i did like the galaxy s7 edge but didnt like the color gold. I went to the store and exchanged it for a black. Started doing the testing again of using both phone cause i still had a few days to return the gs7 edge if there was something i didnt like.
Im not sure if my gold was a lemon version cause i couldnt compare to amything else but the black version i got is much better in speed and lag. This flys and butter smooth MUCH MORE SMOOTHER lag free than the nexus 6p. I for one are not into custom room, thr most important thing for me is getting better battety life with my nexus 6p i was able tl jump from 4 sot to 6sot with a different kernel. I get 10sot with my gs7 edge nom root. My i root for adaway, and i do love the samsung browser let me install adblocker. No ad anymore.
Nexus 6p amazing phone, still have it but im not using it. In speed and lag tge nexus 6p even with stock android cannot compare to the smoothnes and speed of the galaxy s7 edge.
I've been a avid rooter since the tmobile wing days. And having the s7 edge for just about a month so far, I don't have the itch to want to root it like I usually do. It's a really nice phone inside and out.
I only owned 1 nexus before due to the simple reason they were not playing on the stronger league of hardware, despite the fact being updated often it was still not enough to convince me to go back to mid-range cell phones... I guess not time has come to say goodbye to samsung, their crappy bloatware and let go the edge (that in reality has few use from me, it's there...so I can swipe it...once a week for the news that I recive a notification anyway )
So most certainly gonna move to the new google phones and leave samsung to eat their own filth regarding their policies and bloatware after a few generations that I had... s3, s4, s6 and s7. Time to a new game...
Anyone else planning to move?
I agree on most of the above points for reasons to move away from Sammy to Google's new phones if they deliver.
I am however waiting for my S7E to be delivered... I use the Note 3, which is still amazing to this day thanks to the xda and other dev communities. I've tried moving away to LG V10, which had awesome camera, apart from which my Note 3 beat it in every other way (performance and battery life being the major ones).
Thrilled to get my hands on the S7E and flash away....... Let's see how long it lasts (hoping the screen is not that fragile).
But ultimately Google's Pixel phone should be a killer, I am especially excited to check the camera (it appears to be the only real reason to upgrade the phone for me currently) so I will most likely switch to Google camp
Otherwise OnePlus3 is a decent phone for half the price...
The s7e is better than the pixel lineup
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no offense , but only a brain dead idiot will change from s7e to damn costly pixel xl , that too running stock android
The galaxy s7 edge is better!
The Pixel lineup is fine imho, but not at that price range. Too expensive! Should be way cheaper to even be an alternative. I would miss the expandable storage and the ip certification as well. In hindsight not so fine i guess after all...
That's the general consensus I've been reading since yesterday. Who in their right mind would pay 760€ - 1000€ for either of the Pixel phones with their only outstanding feature being Daydream? Yeah, there are timely updates and a complete "Google experience" but the average consumer doesn't care about these things. Google doesn't hit it. A. In that price range, you have devices that can do way more, and are better equipped, e.g. water resistance, no headphone jack, S-Pen etc. Something the Pixel phones don't offer and B. the things the Pixel phones offer you can easily have on a OnePlus 3 or many other 300€ - 400€ devices.
Besides, these things being non-Nexus devices, I can imagine Google implementing a feature similar to an irreversible flash counter like the KNOX FLAG.
But fear not! The Nexus line is not dead. The Pixel phones are just a distraction. At least, according to Stephen Hall from 9to5 Google.
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That's the general consensus I've been reading since yesterday. Who in their right mind would pay 760€ - 1000€ for either of the Pixel phones with their only outstanding feature being Daydream? Yeah, there are timely updates and a complete "Google experience" but the average consumer doesn't care about these things. Google doesn't hit it. A. In that price range, you have devices that can do way more, and are better equipped, e.g. water resistance, no headphone jack, S-Pen etc. Something the Pixel phones don't offer and B. the things the Pixel phones offer you can easily have on a OnePlus 3 or many other 300€ - 400€ devices.
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wait...... no headphone jack is a GOOD thing???
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wait...... no headphone jack is a GOOD thing???
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That was poorly implemented sarcasm. Sorry.
Price vs. features vs. design ... Pixel and Pixel XL are a expensive HTC garbage that ruined the Nexus realm.
The Pixels have nothing on the S7 or S7 Edge.
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I only owned 1 nexus before due to the simple reason they were not playing on the stronger league of hardware, despite the fact being updated often it was still not enough to convince me to go back to mid-range cell phones... I guess not time has come to say goodbye to samsung, their crappy bloatware and let go the edge (that in reality has few use from me, it's there...so I can swipe it...once a week for the news that I recive a notification anyway )
So most certainly gonna move to the new google phones and leave samsung to eat their own filth regarding their policies and bloatware after a few generations that I had... s3, s4, s6 and s7. Time to a new game...
Anyone else planning to move?
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I'm thinking about it, mainly because of the battery life. No matter what I do, this phone sucks on battery life. I'm going to wait and see what the reports are though before I jump in and order one.
Mmmmmm the only phone that can make me think of replacing my s7e with is Note 7. Been using note 4 before and I miss it...
Google phone is too expensive for having nothing really better but the cam... only few apps that I wont use like the new google now.
No way, the pixel is far to expensive.
I can't see any advantage over the S7e except the slightly faster Updates.
Over the last years Samsung has improved the Update-cycle to an really good level so i can live with it.
I wouldn't give up the excellent Battery, the waterresistance and the SD-Card for the Pixel...
Well, maybe I'm too long on samsung galaxys and just wanna move... I went trough all the headaches, knox ****, the harder ways to personalize the phone...
At the moment the truth is that I cannot complain about the s7 edge, however this is due to long headaches... I have 120 apps/services frozen. Most is samsung junk... google now didn't make sense to me, I was avoid some battery draining not using it,until I realized that the voice is too handy while I'm driving to put reminders, notes or ask for stuff which just made things little smoother specially when Im driving.
And I have a rooted phone, with xposed and now even the systemless is giving headaches.. so it's a choice of using flashfire or systemless and i'm simply fed up of all the around and arounds each time I wanna mod the phone. Ofc this is not a phone for the whole market... but for me just having updates a a more functional way to modify/root/xposed the phone the better.
I can be wrong... ANd I agree that samsung got way better with the battery draining and updates, but still because I rely a lot on frozen and modified stuff.
Nougat already out and we can sit and wait until january for that samsung test it, fill it up with their junk and release it to the s7. yes because now s8 is on the way so their aim is to release s8 with nougat... which is been typical from samsung lately, hold the updates and then release a new model already with the update leaving the older users waiting. still better than before though...
I was going to move from my S7e to the Pixel XL but I decided to wait for the S8. One of the things that made me want a Pixel was the 128gb storage capacity. Why don't Samsung come in larger capacities? This honestly really frustrates me because even with expandable SD it's still not having the same as a huge internal storage. Why can't they copy apple and have 128gb, 256gb? I love my S7e but I'd be more loyal to my phone if it had a larger internal capacity. So far, more than happy with my rooted S7e!
The Pixel does nothing for me AT ALL.
It's disgustingly expensive. It has no wireless charging, no removable storage, looks incredibly bland and boring, has nothing new at all. It brings nothing new to the table. I simply can't see any reason why anyone would switch. Except if they were a diehard plain vanilla stock Android fan.
And I don't care if they get updates quicker.
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The Pixel does nothing for me AT ALL.
It's disgustingly expensive. It has no wireless charging, no removable storage, looks incredibly bland and boring, has nothing new at all. It brings nothing new to the table. I simply can't see any reason why anyone would switch. Except if they were a diehard plain vanilla stock Android fan.
And I don't care if they get updates quicker.
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But but but but................you don't want to have Google Assistant? You can have conversations with your phone :silly:
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Why don't Samsung come in larger capacities? This honestly really frustrates me because even with expandable SD it's still not having the same as a huge internal storage.
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SD slot.
Samsung EVO or Select 256 GB SD + 32 GB internal F T W !
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But but but but................you don't want to have Google Assistant? You can have conversations with your phone :silly:
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That pretty much sums it up!
You should see the loathing idiots putting so much emphasis on GA being a huge differentiator, a decisive motivator to overpay for a Pixel on other sites.
The pixel is ugly AF. I'd question peoples tastes for dumping the s7e for that.
A phohe thats cost 1000 euro pixelXL? and no water resistant? go away google
Hey guys. So far my s7 edge hasent let me down. Is there any reason to pay 1100 cdn for an s8+ when I bought my s7 edge back in nov 2016 due to the note 7 fiasco?
EternalSeekerX said:
Hey guys. So far my s7 edge hasent let me down. Is there any reason to pay 1100 cdn for an s8+ when I bought my s7 edge back in nov 2016 due to the note 7 fiasco?
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If you want a bigger screen, you can upgrade. You can watch you tube reviews and make up your own mind..
For me I think better to wait for the Note 8/S9
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Hey guys. So far my s7 edge hasent let me down. Is there any reason to pay 1100 cdn for an s8+ when I bought my s7 edge back in nov 2016 due to the note 7 fiasco?
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Keep your money mate! If you were coming form an older phone I'd say make the leap, but you should be set for at least another year.
It totally depends on your circumstances. If this and if that, only you know those answers ..
Ryland
It really depends. There is more to the switch than just the processor. Antutu performance wise its about 25 ranks higher than the S7 Edge in overall performance. My roommate updated from the S7 Edge and likes it and I have both and prefer the S8+. If processor is the only factor for you then you can hold off for a while maybe window shop at your local store to see if you like it better.
bigger screen and the battery life are my two big favorites over the S7E. The fact the S8+ is also far less laggy than the S7E (which has to be a software problem since the Note 7 ran like a raped ape in comparison to the S7E and they shared the same processor/ram)
battery life is nearly double for me. Which is worth it alone.
All I know is my wife's s7edge is running like crap right now. Even cleared up some memory, moved all kinds of stuff over, reset phone and still slow and the battery life since nougat is horrendous. Weird, right when the new phone comes out.
I have tested the s8 and from when I had my s7edge it's definitely faster and smoother, but it's nowhere near the speed of my Mate 9. Should work for my wife, but not me.
Seems like battery reviews are decent, but so where our s7's when we 1st got them.
Humm....
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No one can answer that question except you.
I wouldnt go from a exynos device to a snapdragon device for any reason...that makes no sense.
Get the exynos S8 plus.
sent from my S8 plus, Note 7 or S7 Edge
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All I know is my wife's s7edge is running like crap right now. Even cleared up some memory, moved all kinds of stuff over, reset phone and still slow and the battery life since nougat is horrendous. Weird, right when the new phone comes out.
I have tested the s8 and from when I had my s7edge it's definitely faster and smoother, but it's nowhere near the speed of my Mate 9. Should work for my wife, but not me.
Seems like battery reviews are decent, but so where our s7's when we 1st got them.
Humm....
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S7 Edge works well with SuperMan rom, no issues
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S7 Edge works well with SuperMan rom, no issues
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Agreed! I get awesome battery life on my s7e exynos and I don't expericence much lag if at all, love Superman rom!
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Hey guys. So far my s7 edge hasent let me down. Is there any reason to pay 1100 cdn for an s8+ when I bought my s7 edge back in nov 2016 due to the note 7 fiasco?
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Looks like nobody has mentioned that if you LOVED the way Note 7 felt in your hands with symmetrical curves front and back then you will be right at home with the S8/S8+. It's every bit as sleek as the Note 7 was. Much speedier and actually more sleek due to not having any buttons on the front.... Only negative I've got is no s-pen. Will upgrade to Note 8 as soon as it's out . Once again, if this will be enticing enough on top of what everybody else has said, will be all up to you
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If you want a bigger screen, you can upgrade. You can watch you tube reviews and make up your own mind..
For me I think better to wait for the Note 8/S9
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Keep your money mate! If you were coming form an older phone I'd say make the leap, but you should be set for at least another year.
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It totally depends on your circumstances. If this and if that, only you know those answers ..
Ryland
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It really depends. There is more to the switch than just the processor. Antutu performance wise its about 25 ranks higher than the S7 Edge in overall performance. My roommate updated from the S7 Edge and likes it and I have both and prefer the S8+. If processor is the only factor for you then you can hold off for a while maybe window shop at your local store to see if you like it better.
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bigger screen and the battery life are my two big favorites over the S7E. The fact the S8+ is also far less laggy than the S7E (which has to be a software problem since the Note 7 ran like a raped ape in comparison to the S7E and they shared the same processor/ram)
battery life is nearly double for me. Which is worth it alone.
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All I know is my wife's s7edge is running like crap right now. Even cleared up some memory, moved all kinds of stuff over, reset phone and still slow and the battery life since nougat is horrendous. Weird, right when the new phone comes out.
I have tested the s8 and from when I had my s7edge it's definitely faster and smoother, but it's nowhere near the speed of my Mate 9. Should work for my wife, but not me.
Seems like battery reviews are decent, but so where our s7's when we 1st got them.
Humm....
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ChrisM75 said:
No one can answer that question except you.
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force70 said:
I wouldnt go from a exynos device to a snapdragon device for any reason...that makes no sense.
Get the exynos S8 plus.
sent from my S8 plus, Note 7 or S7 Edge
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Thanks for the replies guys. I actually utilize soc for linux packages and such so any performance boost is good. One reason I was hesitant is the 8890 still ticks well. Also yeah if the note 8 is coming this year I may get that one. I love my s7e but I miss the note. The S pen makes a good mouse too.
How's the s8 durabilty? I already shattered my s7 edge in december and the insurance gave me a brand new one. I already wasted 100 on two tempered glass because of case incompatibility. I would run no screen protector but I'm wary lol.
Also my s7e internal memory is running out since most of my apps can't be moved to sd card lol.
Idk it doesn't seem that big of an upgrade, that's why I asked.
Until the Note 8 comes out there is zero on the market to replace what the Note 7 performed. Our Note 7's where mini PC's and I agree the S-pen had developed over the years to become a mouse. I want a Note 8 and am looking forward to its eventual introduction. I think the Note 7 is a legend of a mobile and NOT for the negative reason but its positive capabilities. I have never missed a mobile with the exception of the Note 7.
Ryland
I need a new phone. I've been on a Note 4 for a while now, and it has reached its end-of-life. Done tons of research, and even when compared against the latest-and-greatest, the Pixel 2 still reviews well. It seems to be exactly what I am looking for. Even though the announcement of the Pixel 3 is right around the corner, it will mostly likely be late Oct / early Nov before consumers can get them in hand anyway. Five months is a long time, and I'm kind of ready to make a move now.
Is the Pixel 2 still the way to go? Do I have to bite the bullet and get another Samsung and get an s9? (I'm on AT&T btw, and I'm really really sick of having a carrier locked phone and waiting on AT&T to add bloatware to all the updates).
Would I be stupid to get the Pixel 2 today? Talk me into it / talk me out of it.
You'd be stupid to go Samsung again, that's for sure.
The Note 4 was arguably Samsung's peak for the Note line, and the S7 Edge the peak for their S line. Sure the new designs are fancy, but are fragile, and Samsung are horrendous when it comes to updates.
I'd suggest looking into a OnePlus 6 especially if you're sick of being carrier locked. Cheaper and more powerful than the Pixel 2, better in every way aside from speakers and camera if they are important to you.
That being said, I miss my Pixel 2 XL for the software as it's so damn smooth, but I do not miss the abysmal screen (Note 4 screen is better). So if you go Pixel 2, definitely get the smaller one with the nicer Samsung screen.
As opposed to what ? Samsung ? Pixel 2 still had several years of guaranteed updates and a smoother software interface with less bloat. I could understand MAYBE if you said an iPhone as most businesses are starting to use iOS and Apple supports their software for several years but against a Samsung that's just a joke.
My $0.02., develop your own pros/cons list as no one knows what's more important to you, than you. Example, I absolutely hate lag in software, probably an unhealthy amount... I also enjoy a headphone jack, but that's less important than software to _me_. At the end of the day, no phone is better at software and camera than the Pixel 2 (I have non-XL, coming from a Samsung Galaxy S3) and that's what I think ultimately creates the Pixel appeal because literally every time you use your phone, in an app, to take a pic, etc, you get that top-of-the-line software experience. How much does Samsung's superior hardware matter when apps lag or freeze and frustrate the user or they're running a 6-month old security patch level?
Also got mine 50% off during Verizon's Black Friday deal last year, figured the savings was worth the locked bootloader. Then we got an unlock method anyways in December so win-win, half price + unlocked BL now. Is the P2 worth full price to you? Who knows. But good luck whatever path you choose!
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You'd be stupid to go Samsung again, that's for sure.
The Note 4 was arguably Samsung's peak for the Note line, and the S7 Edge the peak for their S line. Sure the new designs are fancy, but are fragile, and Samsung are horrendous when it comes to updates.
I'd suggest looking into a OnePlus 6 especially if you're sick of being carrier locked. Cheaper and more powerful than the Pixel 2, better in every way aside from speakers and camera if they are important to you.
That being said, I miss my Pixel 2 XL for the software as it's so damn smooth, but I do not miss the abysmal screen (Note 4 screen is better). So if you go Pixel 2, definitely get the smaller one with the nicer Samsung screen.
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I love my Pixel 2, but honestly the reason I bought it was because of the camera and because I thought there would be more rom development by this point, but mostly for the camera. I came from a oneplus 3t and I loved that phone so much. The development community was large and very active, and the phone's hardware was awesome.
If it wasn't for the Pixel 2's camera, I would've much rather upgraded to a newer oneplus device or even stuck with my 3t. But seriously, imo forget samsung and there locked ass bootloaders and stupidly overpriced phones.
I ditched Samsung (S6) finally last month and got the Pixel2. I am not much of a ROM flasher but root is very important to me. I was dreading going down in resolution but haven't regretted it once.
Is there any reason NOT to get the Pixel 2? What other phone is popular enough to receive continual updates, and easy to find accessories? Gives fast performance without lag-inducing bloat-ware?
I have an AT&T brand Note 8 and i really like the phone (wish i would have bought the unlocked version). But i like to root and flash roms occasionally and I'm pretty limited on the Note 8. Lucky me my work takes me all across Texas and i just happen to be where AT&T don't have service so i bought the Pixel 2 direct from Google and I'm loving it. I'm running it on Verizon. Super easy to unlock bootloader and root. I've only had it for about a month now and have only did one update (the June update) that got a little confusing but i figured it out (i downloaded it myself from Google instead of doing the ota). Personally, i think the camera on the Note 8 is better than the Pixel 2 camera, but i have both phones so i can always take pictures with the Note and it syncs to my Google photos and i have the pic on both phones. I do feel like the Pixel runs a lot smoother than the Note though. If you buy a Pixel, I'd suggest buying straight from Google so you don't have to worry about the bootloader, although i know carriers bundling things in makes it hard to pass up.
I believe it is still going strong and worth a buy.
Personally I don't the notch design which everyone is copying from Apple now.
In fact I bought one three weeks ago and I'm very happy with it. It's already running Android P DP3. I have considered a Huawei P20, but in the end went with the Pixel 2, mainly because of the fast updates and stock Android (I came from a Nexus 5X)
No regrets!
Meh not that many accessories...
mellojoe said:
Is there any reason NOT to get the Pixel 2? What other phone is popular enough to receive continual updates, and easy to find accessories? Gives fast performance without lag-inducing bloat-ware?
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Well, gotta disagree a little with you on the bolded section. The P2 just isn't sold in large enough numbers to get the choices in accessories like the mainstream iPhones, S9, etc. Otterbox Defender series only has 2 colors for crying out loud...
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It could be a winner for you if that's what you want...luv mine!
Personally I would wait and buy a cheaper, last year's phone in the meanwhile.
Pixel 2 series is great, but you still have to make hard compromises. If you want the 2018 screen quality, go pixel 2; if you want a 2018 battery life and screen size, go XL. But to me these 3 things are essential to a phone (ok maybe not the screen size). Considering the price being top of the lines even compared to an iPhone, and it is a 2017 phone (sort), I would wait.
Plus I got a feel that Pixel 3 may come with wireless charging and other technologies that would make using a phone more convenient. While Pixel 2 is just, with great camera. Not an important factor to me personally.
I just got it coming from a Huawei mate 10
Honestly its a great phone . I got the small version cuz I have a U11PLUS plus as my daily big screen phone. And it's awesome they have all these goodness in such a small phone can be handled one hand
At the moment u11plus plus 128gb and 6gb ram is going for 600$ ish on eBay. If u don't care about updates I would advice u to go with it. The camera with gcam performing better than the pixel believe it or not and the battery is the best in the market. Colours of amazing silver or red are phenomenal, nothing else comes close even the copycat p20 pro
Absolutely! I would recommend the Pixel 2 to anybody who asked I haven't even had any reason to want the XL - I've just got the 5" Pixel.
The software is essentially bloat-free (if you use the Google apps) and the experience is as polished as that of the iPhone.
(I'm not a fan of the iPhone but anybody who's used an Android can't deny on most phones the platform is bloated and a little half-assed in places.)
Plus, if you're big into getting the latest Android versions - we get the Android betas first (and they're supported for 2 years.)
And, once the 2 years are up, if you haven't got a new phone by then, I'd imagine there would be a ton of custom ROMs and such for the phone.
I'm planning on developing some ROMs for the Pixel 2 but I haven't for the moment because I have no reason to; the software is the best I've experienced, so I have no reason to mod the phone. (This is probably why there isn't much in the way of development going on for the phone)
In my opinion, the camera is excellent; I don't use it that much but when I do, it's fast, the quality is fantastic and I have trouble faulting it.
Finally, the battery life is great. As a student, I don't use my phone all day but relatively speaking, I'm quite a heavy user and I get about 3 hours more screen time than most others. Plus, as the phone charges to upwards of 80% in about 45 minutes, battery isn't really an issue. (5-10 minutes at an AC outlet can usually get it up to 20%.)
TL;DR: Particularly if you buy a phone for utility (rather than as a fashion statement), this phone is brilliant. It's the best Android device I've ever owned and, I think, one of the best on the market.
If you want something that looks a bit more flashy, I'd suggest the Pixel XL, though.
The give-a-friend 15% offer is making this pracitcally a no-brainer for me. That brings a brand new direct from Google Pixel2 to $550. That's basically the same price as low end or older model phones. Looks like I'll be picking one up. Thanks for the advice.
Feel free to add any more thoughts, tho, cause I'm sure as we get closer to the launch of the 3, more people are going to be asking for opnions on the 2 as a budget-friendly option.
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I believe it is still going strong and worth a buy.
Personally I don't the notch design which everyone is copying from Apple now.
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Let me correct you sir. Copying from Essential ph-1, not apple. Apple copying that design from Essential ph-1. Get it right.
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Let me correct you sir. Copying from Essential ph-1, not apple. Apple copying that design from Essential ph-1. Get it right.
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Ahh, I see. Learned that recently, thanks.
This year Pixel 3 should be the choice if I want to change my phone again.
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In fact I bought one three weeks ago and I'm very happy with it. It's already running Android P DP3. I have considered a Huawei P20, but in the end went with the Pixel 2, mainly because of the fast updates and stock Android (I came from a Nexus 5X)
No regrets!
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me too, I bought my pixel 2 (128GB) using a 20% coupon, used to have a nexus 5x, huge improvement