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Fix the 'Ok Google' command with screen off
Add the KnockOn or Double Tap to wake/sleep feature
Two things that have really annoyed me are:
1) not being able to use the 'Ok Google' command when the screen is off and not plugged in (I use tasker and a bunch autoapp plugins to do a bunch of commands)
2) I've fallen in love with the KnockOn or double tap feature (coming from an LG V20) to wake and turn off my screen.
This being said I think I have found a solution to them both. KnockOn - Screen On / Off by Jawomo
Steps:
1) Download and install the app from the play store.
2) Configure and set all of the app permissions
3) Supposedly it works from the homescreen and lockscreens to turn the display off but the only area I was able to get it to work was down in the quick launcher section to turn the screen off (I just removed the last icon to the far right). Basically it just puts up a completely black screen so it should not drain any battery from screen use.
4) I turned off the Always On Display (AOD) If you don't it does this little stutter while the AOD comes on and the KnockON covers it.
5) If you have 'Ok Google' to be always listening then now while the screen is off (or covered in a black screen as is the case here) you will still be launched into the Google Assistant.
Hope this helps. If I get time I'll try to make a video of this to explain it better.

It keeps the phone from sleeping so it should drain battery like crazy. I wasn't even able to get ok google to work even WHILE charging =( What's up with that.

You can sign up for Google and Google play services beta, and you will be able to use ok Google with screen off once the apps update to the beta versions

Why don't you use force press the home button to wake device??? Problem solved.
Use nova launcher and configure double touch anywhere on the home screen to lock the device. Another problem solved!
Btw, I do not use ok google so i can't solve that problem

Acoustichayes said:
You can sign up for Google and Google play services beta, and you will be able to use ok Google with screen off once the apps update to the beta versions
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Thanks, I just subscribed for google play services beta, but how can i get google beta?
Never mind just found it, thanks again! I'll try it right now.
Update: Still doesn't work, unfortunately.

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Touchless Control

Is anyone else having a problem with their touch less controls. I can say OK google now and the phone will make a noise. But when google now opens it says " Sorry can't reach google right now ". Same goes for any other kind of voice driven function , texting by voice in the stock messaging app, search in the maps app. They all hive me the same reply. I've checked all my setting. Im at a complete loss
Rooted & unlocked. Otherwise stock .
Have you updated your google search app?
I used HOM and fxz'd my phone . The google vioce app now works but the Moto touchless controls still don't
Google Now needs an active internet connection.
I have tried everything. I've spoken to Verizon who then refered me to Moto. Who had clear partition caches to no avail. Any and all voice recognition on my phone has ceased to work. Sometimes Google will open up to say " Can't reach google at the moment ". However if I manually open the search box Google now and all my cards are there. If I then hit the microphone icon It will again say "Can't reach google at the moment ". I'm at my wits end here. This will happen weather Im using my wifi or 4G signal.
I've fxz'd and that didn't work. I will entertain any and all ideas.
Any resolution with the voice control problem? I am having the same problem with my Droid Maxx running 4.4.4. It just started this week and I have reset it, but that didn't solve the problem. I figured the old apps wouldn't have the same problem as the newer versions. Guess I was wrong. I am trying Verizon Repair assistant to see what it can do for me. We will see.
tombaldwin6 said:
I have tried everything. I've spoken to Verizon who then refered me to Moto. Who had clear partition caches to no avail. Any and all voice recognition on my phone has ceased to work. Sometimes Google will open up to say " Can't reach google at the moment ". However if I manually open the search box Google now and all my cards are there. If I then hit the microphone icon It will again say "Can't reach google at the moment ". I'm at my wits end here. This will happen weather Im using my wifi or 4G signal.
I've fxz'd and that didn't work. I will entertain any and all ideas.
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Post your touchless/moto voice version from settings/app. They are interchangeable in name now. If you have the newest you must uninstall updates & retrain touchless voice.
I ended up FDRing the phone twice. The first time I let my apps reload automatically and my touchless control still didn't work. So I did it again, but the time I reloaded each app individually. Testing the touchless controls between each install. I ended up reinstalling every app but the one I thought was the culprit. This is no knock on the app I used it and I wish I could put it back in. Elixor2 has a setting where you can control and or turn on/off each of the sensors including the microphone. When I was having the problem I would go into elixir and see that my microphone was off and inaccessible. With out elixor2 on my phone I've had no more problems.
I have done the same type thing as Tom Baldwin6. I "redid" my phone using the Verizon software installation assistant and did a "repair". I then rooted it using TWRP, and started adding stuff. I have not had the problem again as of now.
I was thinking it was the experimental app that was allowing me to mirror my phone using Chromecast, but I am using version 4 of that app and it is still working. I used version 5 before.
My phone hasn't had a problem again after 24 hours, but as I continue to add apps and check, eventually I may find another culprit. I will post here if I get it tracked down.
jmaclean62 said:
I have done the same type thing as Tom Baldwin6. I "redid" my phone using the Verizon software installation assistant and did a "repair". I then rooted it using TWRP, and started adding stuff. I have not had the problem again as of now.
I was thinking it was the experimental app that was allowing me to mirror my phone using Chromecast, but I am using version 4 of that app and it is still working. I used version 5 before.
My phone hasn't had a problem again after 24 hours, but as I continue to add apps and check, eventually I may find another culprit. I will post here if I get it tracked down.
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I suspected the the chromecast mirror as well It was one of the 1st apps I reloaded. But it wasn't it. I'm certain it has something to do with the microphone
Same issue here. Been a week since I FDR'd (NOT rooted or unlocked). The apps restored, touchless control no longer allows to register voice (does not recognize sound ONLY for Touchless Control).
Saw that Touchless Control has been updated to "Moto Voice",
Uninstalled Moto Voice to return to previous version. No luck. Again updated to Moto Voice.
Wipe Cache Partition, no luck.
I've installed Open Mic+, which works for the most part (never got it to work from lock screen)
Stopped Open Mic+.
I then went in Language & input ---> Google voice typing settings (or Voice Search), disabled/re-enabled Speech Output. Clicked on "Ok Google Detection" and did the standard Google Now/OK Google setup again.
Went back to Touchless Control and this time it recognized my voice and allowed me to setup Touchless Control and all is working again.
Although the new "Moto Voice" on the "1st Gen [2013] Ultra/Maxx etc.., you cannot customize the "OK Google Now" at this time (coming feature for Gen 1's).
Rebooting now to ensure operation. Will updated/verify 'fix' in a moment.
Upon restart, my Open Mic+ restarted, and the "OK Google Now" was not working. Stopped the Open Mic+ and touchless control working again. Went in and re-trained to verify. Unintalling Open Mic+ and rebooting now.
Now again working 100%, now just awaiting Moto Voice update to allow additional features for 1st gen's.
i have got mine working gain too. I still haven't reinstalled everything though. I will reinstall x tether this weekend. I am hoping that it isn't cuseing any problems. Can't imagine why it would, but we will see. Do you guys have it installed?
Did you happen to open the Google app, scroll to the bottom, tap the three dot menu control on the bottom right, tap settings, voice, OK Google detection, and turn off the setting "On any screen"?
If that is on, I think it block touchless controls, maddeningly. I know it stops the Assist driving feature from being able to capture voice when it prompts you.
doogald said:
Did you happen to open the Google app, scroll to the bottom, tap the three dot menu control on the bottom right, tap settings, voice, OK Google detection, and turn off the setting "On any screen"?
If that is on, I think it block touchless controls, maddeningly. I know it stops the Assist driving feature from being able to capture voice when it prompts you.
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I set "on any screen" option and touchless controls does work from any screen, needing only "OK Google".
I am not driving now but will check Assist in about 2 hours.
iamtek7 said:
I set "on any screen" option and touchless controls does work from any screen, needing only "OK Google".
I am not driving now but will check Assist in about 2 hours.
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I don't think that's touchless controls - I think that's the Google search app listening and responding to ok Google , and, with that setting on, that's probably why you couldn't train in the Touchless controls settings (though I haven't tested that myself, since my phone is already trained.)
I know it's a subtle difference, but Touchless controls is a front end to google search most of the time, though sometimes it does its own thing (ok Google now, what's up?)
I do know that the any screen setting screws up some other things, like preventing the camera app from capturing video (because the microphone is in use).
I'm all set now. If this is still an issue for anyone, let me know.
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[Q] Google Search Swype turns my screen off

Afternoon,
Yesterday I restarted my phone and I noticed I got an option I hadn't gotten before. I can't remember exactly but it asked me if it wanted to start up using greenify or Google. I wasn't sure which to pick but as my finger hovered over to touch the Google option the greenify option was chosen.
Now, I've noticed, that when I Swype my for Google Search on the home screen, the screen turns off.
Any help on this?
Ciresamor said:
Afternoon,
Yesterday I restarted my phone and I noticed I got an option I hadn't gotten before. I can't remember exactly but it asked me if it wanted to start up using greenify or Google. I wasn't sure which to pick but as my finger hovered over to touch the Google option the greenify option was chosen.
Now, I've noticed, that when I Swype my for Google Search on the home screen, the screen turns off.
Any help on this?
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Yes, navigate to settings > App manager > Greenify (may have to use search function to find this) > clear defaults. That should clear the default action from Greenifying your phone instead of giving you the option to do both. If you don't want to even have the option popup again and you only want Google search then just select it and tap always when you swipe up.

Is Smart Lock (Lollipop) working for you consistently?

Upgraded my N5 to its Lollipop Factory Image, and setup Smart Lock to work with my Moto 360. I'm noticing that my N5 will still prompt me for a passcode half the time, even though my moto 360 shows it's still connected (I can even PROVE it's connected, by doing an "Ok Google" voice search). I even set up face unlock to give it another unlock method, and that didn't seem to increase the success rate for Smart Unlock. It seems that no matter what, smart unlock doesn't work for me a lot of the time. To be more specific, it seems like it doesn't work if I haven't used the phone in awhile. Once I put my passcode in, smart lock seems to work just fine for awhile, but eventually it will stop working again, forcing me to enter my passcode to jumpstart it again.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Yes, this seems to be what I'm experiencing as well.
Same here... really want this to work. I assumed it might be because I dirty flashed, are you running a clean install?
same here...
Same here with a nexus 9. Tried connecting it to a moto and to my nexus 5. The units ARE connected to the nexus9 but in smartlock they have status "not connected". After setting up it works until the units are out of reach for the first time....after that it is back to pincode
jt3 said:
Upgraded my N5 to its Lollipop Factory Image, and setup Smart Lock to work with my Moto 360. I'm noticing that my N5 will still prompt me for a passcode half the time, even though my moto 360 shows it's still connected (I can even PROVE it's connected, by doing an "Ok Google" voice search). I even set up face unlock to give it another unlock method, and that didn't seem to increase the success rate for Smart Unlock. It seems that no matter what, smart unlock doesn't work for me a lot of the time. To be more specific, it seems like it doesn't work if I haven't used the phone in awhile. Once I put my passcode in, smart lock seems to work just fine for awhile, but eventually it will stop working again, forcing me to enter my passcode to jumpstart it again.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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got no problem at all since N5 is paired with my LG G watch.
Got problems making NFC tag work. I have a NFC sticker at home, i use it with this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher&hl=en making toggle wifi when i enter home (wifi on) and when i walk out (wifi off). I tried to use the same tag for smart unlock, but it simply doesn't works. Tag writing seems to be ok but still have to enter the pin when i pass my phone over it. Should i use another tag?
Mine works but RARELY
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Well, I figured out my issue anyway. It seems it's Gravity Screen. I use it to turn off my screen when I put the phone in my pocket (and turn it back on when I take it out). Because of this, I rarely touch the power button anymore. Apparently, when Gravity Screen locks the device, it REALLY locks it, making it so that Smart Lock can't unlock it, and forcing you to enter a passcode. I've left a note in the dev's thread, asking for a fix, but for now, I had to disable that feature.
Now, Smart Lock is working almost all of the time. I still have the occasional need to enter a passcode (like after rebooting), but for the most part, this fixed my issue.
I guess the tl;dr of all this is to make sure you don't have any apps running that lock or power-off your screen. They may be interfering.
jt3 said:
Well, I figured out my issue anyway. It seems it's Gravity Screen. I use it to turn off my screen when I put the phone in my pocket (and turn it back on when I take it out). Because of this, I rarely touch the power button anymore. Apparently, when Gravity Screen locks the device, it REALLY locks it, making it so that Smart Lock can't unlock it, and forcing you to enter a passcode. I've left a note in the dev's thread, asking for a fix, but for now, I had to disable that feature.
Now, Smart Lock is working almost all of the time. I still have the occasional need to enter a passcode (like after rebooting), but for the most part, this fixed my issue.
I guess the tl;dr of all this is to make sure you don't have any apps running that lock or power-off your screen. They may be interfering.
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I don't use Gravity Screen, but have it installed. Could that cause the problem? I'm currently on 5.1 Cataclysm on my Nexus 5.
I have added Moto 360 as a trusted device. The moment I add it i'm able to unlock without PIN. However, after a few minutes, although the watch is connected, smart lock doesn't seem to work. I had this issue on stock Android 5.0 (no root or bootloader unlock) also with a Sony bluetooth headphones!
My smart lock "trusted places" is not working. I am assuming it is associated with the recent update to the Google Play Services for the "on body detection."
My Google Play Services has been sucking up my battery usage when location services is on. Other users have been experiencing the same issues. Some fixes suggest turning the smart features off then back and another is reinstalling the Google play services (revert then update again.)
I side loaded my Google Play Services but it didn't fix the problem. I am still looking for a fix so trusted places will work.
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My smart lock "trusted places" is not working. I am assuming it is associated with the recent update to the Google Play Services for the "on body detection."
My Google Play Services has been sucking up my battery usage when location services is on. Other users have been experiencing the same issues. Some fixes suggest turning the smart features off then back and another is reinstalling the Google play services (revert then update again.)
I side loaded my Google Play Services but it didn't fix the problem. I am still looking for a fix so trusted places will work.
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Having absolutely the same problem. The "on body detection" feature works perfectly, howeve, the "trusted places" - almost never. I find myself entering my PIN at home every time I want to unlock the device, except for the times I slide it out of my pocket. If Google fixes these problems, Smart Lock would be my favourite feature!
I've pretty much given up on Smart Location Unlock. It's been broken for weeks now. I'm on CM12 and made profiles to disable pin/password/pattern when connected to my home Wi-Fi.

Smart Lock and Trusted Places Bug

I am running stock Android 5.0 on my Nexus 5 (rooted). I recently got the Trusted Places feature in Smart Lock.
I did not want to use Google Maps Home & Work due to the inaccuracies. So I created a custom place. It showed up and the feature worked beautifully.
However, I went to the list of Custom Places, and I renamed this location to "Home". It disappeared from the list. I can no longer delete or rename it. What is worse is that Trusted Places is ALWAYS on for this location. I cannot even turn that off. This seriously compromises privacy/security. I tried turning Google Maps Home on, and all I get is "Home, Home" under Trusted Places.
I would like to point out that both Home & Work from Google Maps are OFF. Someone pointed out that it may have to do with Google Now "My Places", but even then, I cannot turn off the Smart Lock feature.
Someone also pointed out that the same behavior happens if the custom place was renamed "Work".
Anyone encountered this bug? I just want to turn off Trusted Places completely!!!
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I am running stock Android 5.0 on my Nexus 5 (rooted). I recently got the Trusted Places feature in Smart Lock.
I did not want to use Google Maps Home & Work due to the inaccuracies. So I created a custom place. It showed up and the feature worked beautifully.
However, I went to the list of Custom Places, and I renamed this location to "Home". It disappeared from the list. I can no longer delete or rename it. What is worse is that Trusted Places is ALWAYS on for this location. I cannot even turn that off. This seriously compromises privacy/security. I tried turning Google Maps Home on, and all I get is "Home, Home" under Trusted Places.
I would like to point out that both Home & Work from Google Maps are OFF. Someone pointed out that it may have to do with Google Now "My Places", but even then, I cannot turn off the Smart Lock feature.
Someone also pointed out that the same behavior happens if the custom place was renamed "Work".
Anyone encountered this bug? I just want to turn off Trusted Places completely!!!
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I'm having the exact same issue, I just wan't to turn off Smart Places but I can't because I renamed one of the places as "Home" and now I can't delete it. ):
Apparently, Google fixed this in the latest Google Play Services 6.5.87. You can find a compatible version at apkmirror.com.
I also noticed that if we lock the screen with a 3rd party widget/app (eg screen off and turn off the screen) then trusted places won't work and we need to enter the pin. It only works if power button is used to lock screen or it locks after screen timeout.
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I also noticed that if we lock the screen with a 3rd party widget/app (eg screen off and turn off the screen) then trusted places won't work and we need to enter the pin. It only works if power button is used to lock screen or it locks after screen timeout.
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Yes, same here when I use the PowerToggles widget to lock the screen.

Force OK Google Always ON

Does anyone know of a way to force OK Google to be always on? There are tutorials through google, but they either seem to be for non-samsung phones or outdated. I moved from iPhone to Galaxy and underestimated how much I would miss "Hey Siri". Running Superman ROM if that makes a difference.
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Does anyone know of a way to force OK Google to be always on? There are tutorials through google, but they either seem to be for non-samsung phones or outdated. I moved from iPhone to Galaxy and underestimated how much I would miss "Hey Siri". Running Superman ROM if that makes a difference.
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Tap the Google app then tap Google then the menu icon (top left 3 lines) tap settings > voice > OK Google Detection, tap turn on from any screen and if you want tap turn on Personal Results.
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Tap the Google app then tap Google then the menu icon (top left 3 lines) tap settings > voice > OK Google Detection, tap turn on from any screen and if you want tap turn on Personal Results.
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I already checked that and there wasn't an option to turn it on @ any screen. It only seems to work when its charging. It's okay though. With Xposed, I was able to tweak it so I can long press and activate the voice search. Not quite what I wanted, but close enough for now.
Thanks for the reply though.
rasimpson318 said:
I already checked that and there wasn't an option to turn it on @ any screen. It only seems to work when its charging. It's okay though. With Xposed, I was able to tweak it so I can long press and activate the voice search. Not quite what I wanted, but close enough for now.
Thanks for the reply though.
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If you go to google voice settings and tap OK Google Detection you should have these options, only From the Google App is on by default the other are off, turn on From any Screen and you can use OK Google from any open screen, turn on Personal Results as well and you can wake the phone from a locked screen you don't have to tap anything, these should be standard options, I checked back on my old S5 and they are the same.
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If you go to google voice settings and tap OK Google Detection you should have these options, only From the Google App is on by default the other are off, turn on From any Screen and you can use OK Google from any open screen, turn on Personal Results as well and you can wake the phone from a locked screen you don't have to tap anything, these should be standard options, I checked back on my old S5 and they are the same.
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Now that I have Superman installed, I no longer have those options. All I have is the first one to turn it on. I've heard it runs down the battery a ton anyway.

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