Does the Idol 3 NOT do Thermal Throttling / Overheat / Over CHARGE protection? - Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

4.7" model. Phone is unmodded. Latest official firmware.
Bought a new car charger. Drove 2.5 hours to a concert, streamed music while plugged in during the drive. Arrived. No problems, phone fully charged.
Concert ended. Got back in car, drove 2.5 hours home, streaming music, phone plugged in. Upon getting home, phone was extremely hot. Battery level also only at ~70%. Odd, but no big deal.
Home from concert at 3 AM, was getting ready for bed, plugged phone in on nightstand - no charging light. Tried multiple cables / chargers, no luck. Phone was still on and operational. Used as alarm for work in the morning. Worked fine.
Power cycled phone multiple times, had 18+ hours (airplane mode, listening to downloaded podcasts) to cool down, etc... still wouldn't charge.
Shut down, switched sim card to different phone for the time being. Tonight, tore down the phone, battery is soft and malleable. Bad sign. Ordered replacement battery.
The real question is: does this phone not have any thermal throttling??

Just for the sake of updating, I got a brand new battery, which allowed the phone to turn on, but it still wouldn't charge. I'm tossing the phone in the recycling bin.

Either faulty charging port or overpowered charger. One of the problems I am assuming. Apologies for lack of response.

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Inspire is DEAD. grrr.. Help?

So my phone battery was dieing. In fact the phone powered itself off. So I went to plug it into my car charger, but the charger port (on the car adapter) was damaged so i never plugged it in. Instead I grabbed a usb charger out of the glove box that I had bought on ebay and never used before. I plugged it in, saw the big battery icon and a few seconds later the phone booted up and I saw the HTC logo. I left the truck and went back to work. When I got doe about an hour later I discovered the charge light on the phone was no longer lit and the phone would not respond to pushing the power button. At this point I figured I killed the battery and would need to try to charge it manually when I got home.
Upon getting home I put the battery in my wifes inspire. It curiously charged it up no problem. So I put the charged battery back in my phone and nothing. It wont do anything. I tried her battery, nothing. No lights, no vibe no nothing. Like the battery is completely dead... But its not.
I actually just bought this phone used about 2 weeks ago its been workign great until now. Im really bummed. I had 2 atrix's get the boot loop problem and another phones screen went. All in the last 3 months.. so annoying.
Im figuring that the usb charger might have an over-volted output and somethign got fried? I have no idea but if anyone can help me that would be great.. I've spent almost 400 in phones in the last 4 months
Thanks!
slowjett said:
So my phone battery was dieing. In fact the phone powered itself off. So I went to plug it into my car charger, but the charger port (on the car adapter) was damaged so i never plugged it in. Instead I grabbed a usb charger out of the glove box that I had bought on ebay and never used before. I plugged it in, saw the big battery icon and a few seconds later the phone booted up and I saw the HTC logo. I left the truck and went back to work. When I got doe about an hour later I discovered the charge light on the phone was no longer lit and the phone would not respond to pushing the power button. At this point I figured I killed the battery and would need to try to charge it manually when I got home.
Upon getting home I put the battery in my wifes inspire. It curiously charged it up no problem. So I put the charged battery back in my phone and nothing. It wont do anything. I tried her battery, nothing. No lights, no vibe no nothing. Like the battery is completely dead... But its not.
I actually just bought this phone used about 2 weeks ago its been workign great until now. Im really bummed. I had 2 atrix's get the boot loop problem and another phones screen went. All in the last 3 months.. so annoying.
Im figuring that the usb charger might have an over-volted output and somethign got fried? I have no idea but if anyone can help me that would be great.. I've spent almost 400 in phones in the last 4 months
Thanks!
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Have you tried powering up the phone while plugged in to outlet to see if it powers up ?
Reinaldo33897 said:
Have you tried powering up the phone while plugged in to outlet to see if it powers up ?
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Yes, I get nothing at all.
slowjett said:
Yes, I get nothing at all.
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Also all covers must be on (sim) (battery) to turn on. Sorry dont know what to tell you, phone may have bit the dust. When you left it in the truck charging was it a hot sunny day. You may have damaged internal hardware. If you purchased phone on ebay open a claim against seller. I had a phone I purchased for 400 that kept frying the battery. Ebay made seller refund money back.
See if you can hboot power up holding power button and volume down button at same time.

Phone only charging while turned off.

This started tonight. My phone was dying while sitting on the charger. I mostly use wireless chargers, and sometimes they are a bit finicky, so I thought nothing of it and just plugged it into a backup plugin charger. It was still dying. Pretty quickly too.
I turned my phone off for like 10 minutes and left it plugged in, and it went from 20 to 29. Then started dropping again once it was on.
I am on a stock 4.4.3 rom, rooted.
Any ideas here?

Lg urbane 2nd edition battery problems

I received my lg urbane 2 yesterday and I noticed the battery life was extremely poor. I charged it up last night then turned it off and unplugged the watch. It lost 20 percent of its battery life while it was off at night. I was using it today and about an hour ago it was at 20 percent so I plugged it into my power brick. In about an hour the watch was at 35 percent but was blazing hot. I turned it off and let it cool for about 15 minutes. Once it was fairly cool. I attempted to power it on. It wouldn't turn on. I plugged it in and it booted up. It was then completely out of power. I let it charge for another 15 minutes then turned it off again. I just tried to power it on and it was dead! I'm now charging on a computer usb and it is still very hot. What should I do?
IS33D34DP30PL3 said:
I received my lg urbane 2 yesterday and I noticed the battery life was extremely poor. I charged it up last night then turned it off and unplugged the watch. It lost 20 percent of its battery life while it was off at night. I was using it today and about an hour ago it was at 20 percent so I plugged it into my power brick. In about an hour the watch was at 35 percent but was blazing hot. I turned it off and let it cool for about 15 minutes. Once it was fairly cool. I attempted to power it on. It wouldn't turn on. I plugged it in and it booted up. It was then completely out of power. I let it charge for another 15 minutes then turned it off again. I just tried to power it on and it was dead! I'm now charging on a computer usb and it is still very hot. What should I do?
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have you tried factory reset? You can do that, by un-pairing your Watch to your phone, via the watch or Android Wear App on your phone.
You might have a bad unit.
You might want to return it during the 14 day period if a reset does not work.
What you describe does not sound normal.
viernie said:
have you tried factory reset? You can do that, by un-pairing your Watch to your phone, via the watch or Android Wear App on your phone.
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I reflashed it the day I got it. Luckily It works great now! Since it was overheating I ran it under some water and once I got home I plugged it in and haven't had a problem since.
tech_head said:
You might have a bad unit.
You might want to return it during the 14 day period if a reset does not work.
What you describe does not sound normal.
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Thank you for taking the time to reply luckily I fixed the issue. It appears to have been caused by using my one amp battery brick. It overheated it and caused it to bug out. Once it was cooled it started working like a charm
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Hey guys, I have the issue where my w200 failed to charge overnight and would vibrate twice on the Android Wear boot animation and shut down, now it won't even turn on after being on charge via wall adapter or PC USB port, any suggestions would be appreciated before I go through the tedious warranty process as I'm in Australia and the device was purchased via expansys out of Korea.
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Hey guys, I have the issue where my w200 failed to charge overnight and would vibrate twice on the Android Wear boot animation and shut down, now it won't even turn on after being on charge via wall adapter or PC USB port, any suggestions would be appreciated before I go through the tedious warranty process as I'm in Australia and the device was purchased via expansys out of Korea.
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Take a pencil eraser and lightly rub the electrical contacts on the watch. I had that charging problem with my LG watch Urbane 2 LTE after working out with it on. I suspected it might be a sweat issue, perhaps a film of dried salt, that caused enough resistance to keep the watch from recharging & so I took a Zeiss lens cleaning wipe to it. But that didn't fix it. Complaining to a friend, he said when he had a similar problem trying to charge his Bluetooth earpiece, he fixed it by just taking a pencil eraser and rubbing the brass charging connector dots on the earpiece. I did that on my watch and normal charging resumed.
Usually the problem is not with a battery. Try to clean the contacts with a lasting (pen eraser) both on the charger and on watches itself.
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Overheating while charging?

(I also posted this over to Reddit, but I figured I'd have a home for this on XDA too.)
I haven't heard any other reports of this, so I wanted to start with this here, to see if anyone else has seen this -- or to have a place to go if other people start noticing this.
My Pixel 2 (walleye) has been overheating occasionally while charging recently. Here's the rough timeline of it:
About a week and a half ago, I woke up during the night, went to check the time, and my phone was really really hot. I unplugged it and plugged it back in and it was fine. (In this case, I was using a SHIELD Tablet charger with a A->C cable.)
A few days later, I again woke up in the middle of the night a few hours after I went to sleep, and again found that it was incredibly hot. I unplugged it and plugged it back in, and it said "Charged" instead of "Charging", even though it only was at 78%. I tried unplugging and plugging it back in a few times, and eventually I rebooted it and got to charge again. (This is with the stock charger.)
Last Friday, I woke up an hour or so after I had set my alarm, and my phone was powered off (when I hit the wake button, it was at the bootloader charging "big battery" screen). Powering it on, I got the message "Phone turned off due to heat. Your phone is now running normally" as a notification. (Stock charger)
This morning, I woke up again to my Pebble's alarm instead of my phone's, with the phone at the "big battery" screen. When I tried to power it on, I got a red LED; I tried unplugging it and plugging it back in a few times, and ultimately had to press and hold the power button to turn it all the way off, then plug it back into the charger. When I booted the phone, it was at 0% of a tank of battery, and again gave me the "turned off due to heat" warning. I looked in the Sleep as Android logs, and it says that I slept from 22:36 to 1:29, when the phone presumably crashed, for 2h40m from plugging it in to the phone getting hot enough that it powered down (and then drained the rest of its battery!). (This was with the SHIELD charger.)
Anyway, Google support did an advanced RMA today (and they mentioned that I would not be dinged for having cracked the antenna glass), so I think all shall be well that ends well. But I'd be curious to hear if anyone else has had this happen, and if it's gotten progressively worse for you like it has for me...
Mine too!
Mine has done this a couple of times too! Given that it's only 6 weeks old, I'm a little annoyed.
Last night I plugged it in using the cable that came with it and this morning it was hot like the sun. I unplugged it and turned it off until it cooled down, and when I turned it on the battery was down to 86 %. I checked the battery settings and it said its last full charge was 8 minutes ago and that none of the apps had used any battery.
Pixel 2XL set on fire
I first enjoyed the new Pixel. Everything was fine - face recognition works even at night, it did not bog down when using complex Apps, the design of the phone pleased me a lot.
However, all those features became useless when my phone set itself on fire. I travelled to another country where they use 220 Volts - in Australia we have 110 Volts
One night I woke up with the room full of smoke and quickly realised that something was wrong..... My phone overheated, and released an incredible amount of smoke then set on fire, my mattress was damaged and the charger melted with the phone. I quickly unplugged the charger and opened the windows. They don't have fire alarms where i was staying- not in my room, anyway.
I have to admit that I used Samsung A3 charger (however the A3 charger outputs the standard 5 volts and 1 or 2 amps that most smart phones use and is rated between 100-240 Volt input) - not original Google Pixel charger, but there should be something inside the phone that would have stop it from overcharging like in most other phones.
So i now have a burnt mattress, my phone is now completely ruined and has melted the Samsung A3 original charger. Now more than a month of going back and fourth with JB HI-FI and Google. Both Google and the store deny liability at this stage despite multiple reports of the Pixel 2XL setting on fire. Communication has been terrible as well. On my 4 attempt to contact the store I got only 1 informative call back.
Vestnik said:
I first enjoyed the new Pixel. Everything was fine - face recognition works even at night, it did not bog down when using complex Apps, the design of the phone pleased me a lot.
However, all those features became useless when my phone set itself on fire. I travelled to another country where they use 220 Volts - in Australia we have 110 Volts
One night I woke up with the room full of smoke and quickly realised that something was wrong..... My phone overheated, and released an incredible amount of smoke then set on fire, my mattress was damaged and the charger melted with the phone. I quickly unplugged the charger and opened the windows. They don't have fire alarms where i was staying- not in my room, anyway.
I have to admit that I used Samsung A3 charger (however the A3 charger outputs the standard 5 volts and 1 or 2 amps that most smart phones use and is rated between 100-240 Volt input) - not original Google Pixel charger, but there should be something inside the phone that would have stop it from overcharging like in most other phones.
So i now have a burnt mattress, my phone is now completely ruined and has melted the Samsung A3 original charger. Now more than a month of going back and fourth with JB HI-FI and Google. Both Google and the store deny liability at this stage despite multiple reports of the Pixel 2XL setting on fire. Communication has been terrible as well. On my 4 attempt to contact the store I got only 1 informative call back.
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Not sure where you came up with that, Australia uses 240v, not 110v. Good luck trying to get your problem sorted out though.
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I notice that 2 of the 3 reports here are not using the original charger, and are using A->C cables. Bad A->C cables can be risky for charging (not all have a particular resistor that's needed to do this safely), so I wonder whether the cable could be an issue in either of these?
bodssh said:
Not sure where you came up with that, Australia uses 240v, not 110v. Good luck trying to get your problem sorted out though.
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I've been on holiday in Bali
Vestnik said:
I've been on holiday in Bali
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Indonesia uses the same mains voltage as Australia (220/230/240 doesn't matter). You may have had dodgy electrics in the hotel or something like that, no way we can know.
I wish when the phone overheats, people would look at the battery in Settings, tap the graph if you need to, and look for any sudden drop to zero (then an immediate rise back to, or to almost, the level it was at before dropping. This is the sign of a dendrite in the battery, and a thick enough one could cause the battery to burn. (https://www.google.com/search?q=lithium+battery+dendrite&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 if anyone is interested in dendrites, and you'll notice that a fix has probably been developed, although we most likely won't see it for a few years.)
If Google gets enough reports of dendrite growth in their batteries, they may just decide to specify someone else's battery. (I don't think they want to be known as the company that produced the second coming of the Note 7.)

Had a bloated battery, replaced it, still won't turn on... is it dead dead?

The long version of the problem is the phone (ATT model) started having severe battery life issues, to the point where it would go dead in a few hours and then even when it was on the charger it would not reach 100%. If I remember right it would shut off but still charge, then boot up, sometimes but then die. Then one day it just wouldn't turn on and wouldn't charge, no red charging indicator, nothing. It sat like that for maybe a year. Recently I realized there are pictures on it which I had not backed up (because I was looking for them and couldn't find them anywhere else). So I ordered a couple used OEM Samsung batteries on eBay. Good seller, well rated, even agreed to charge up the batteries before sending them to me.
They arrived yesterday, I swapped the batteries today and the phone is still unresponsive. I tried both batteries and got the same result as the original battery. The original battery is puffy/bloated and the new (used) ones are not. So the original battery is/was indeed a problem, but could a bad battery have fried something else in the phone? I tried holding the power and volume down buttons for 10 seconds a few times, also other various button combinations for 10 seconds, multiple times but I still get nothing. I have a USB voltage/amperage meter and it started out showing the phone taking only 0.46 A, then started falling slowly to 0.02 A where it is now. Voltage is a steady 5.11. My computer also does not detect anything when I connect it.
Is there anything more that can be done to revive the phone or retrieve the pictures from it? I assume someone who is capable at BGA soldering could possibly remove the memory chip and put it on another board? Any ideas other than that? The pictures on there are from a trip to Australia and that's a trip that won't be happening again. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

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