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Best version for AT&T

Just wondering what versions of the phone will work on AT&T and what version is best? Wouldn't mind buying an international or unlocked model as they seem to get updates fastest and would use Qi instead of whatever the AT&T one uses. Any input appreciated.

Unlocked T-Mobile G3 .
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Was thinking the D855 from Expansys

bose301s said:
Just wondering what versions of the phone will work on AT&T and what version is best? Wouldn't mind buying an international or unlocked model as they seem to get updates fastest and would use Qi instead of whatever the AT&T one uses. Any input appreciated.
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What version works on AT&T best? I'm going with the AT&T variant. [emoji13]

BreakingVZW said:
What version works on AT&T best? I'm going with the AT&T variant. [emoji13]
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Yea but it doesn't that's the thing lol.
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Skizzy034 said:
Yea but it doesn't that's the thing lol.
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Mine works perfectly on the AT&T network. No complaints at all.

I was meaning not the AT&T variant specifically though, Carrier IQ, locked, ****ty wireless charging standard and bloat galore.
I am currently with Verizon using a G2 on unlimited data, was thinking of buying an unlimited AT&T plan on eBay and switching now that Verizon will be throttling. I know AT&T throttles 2 but now that Verizon also does there's no reason to stick with them and their limited choice of phones, I would love to be able to use Nexus, OnePlus, Oppo and GPE phones instead of the locked down Verizon selection.

BreakingVZW said:
What version works on AT&T best? I'm going with the AT&T variant. [emoji13]
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The att G3 comes with carrier IQ and the radio is not nearly as good as the other models. Also the att model does not have qi wireless charging so it is actually the worst model made.

conan1600 said:
The att G3 comes with carrier IQ and the radio is not nearly as good as the other models. Also the att model does not have qi wireless charging so it is actually the worst model made.
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Carrier IQ is easily removed, I have no problem with my radios and don't care about wireless charging. I'm happy with my device. If you don't like the att variant then don't get it. He asked which version works best on AT&T and I made a joke.

BreakingVZW said:
Carrier IQ is easily removed, I have no problem with my radios and don't care about wireless charging. I'm happy with my device. If you don't like the att variant then don't get it. He asked which version works best on AT&T and I made a joke.
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Carrier iQ is removable by annoying methods but that still makes it inferior which directly related to the Op's question. There is also a Radio fix by modding the build prop, that also makes it inferior which is directly related to the Op's question. The fact that you dont care about wireless charging doesn't mean that others dont or make the att version better, again, directly related to the Op's question.
The Op showed good sense asking that question as he obviously knew you can buy an unlocked version and use it on ATT network. I provided him with a good assessment of the product I am familiar with. I hope my comment helped the Op in his decision. Im quite happy with my phone now that I've finished modding it and am more than capable of choosing what phone I buy and didnt ask or need your help with product selection. Kthxbye

conan1600 said:
Carrier iQ is removable by annoying methods but that still makes it inferior which directly related to the Op's question. There is also a Radio fix by modding the build prop, that also makes it inferior which is directly related to the Op's question. The fact that you dont care about wireless charging doesn't mean that others dont or make the att version better, again, directly related to the Op's question. There was a question asked and I made a correct and helpful response with good knowledge of the product
The Op showed good sense asking that question as he obviously knew you can buy an unlocked version and use it on ATT network. I provided him with a good assessment of the product I am familiar with. I hope my comment helped the Op in his decision. Im quite happy with my phone now that I've finished modding it and am more than capable of choosing what phone I buy and didnt ask or need your help with product selection. Kthxbye
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Is your recommendation the T-Mobile version?

bose301s said:
Is your recommendation the T-Mobile version?
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Cant say for sure. I havent personally tested it. The International version can be bought unlocked, T Moble offers many phones in unlocked versions and if they do on the G3 it appears from what ive read it may be better for some. It would depend on if you like Qi better than Power mat and if you're proficient at modding phones. If you are comfortable with rooting and tweak box as well as a bit of build prop edits, the Att d850 is fine. I already am invested in Qi so personally I just bought a 14 dollar Qi film and put it in the otterbox case I use and it works well with Qi.
One thing I havent checked into on the other versions is rotation locking as well. That is annoying to some as it is backwards from samsung and vanilla android. This is changeable in tweakbox though. The amount of bloat is kinda absurd on Att as well lol. There does seem to be a headphone jack issue with the Att version that I havent had on my own phone as well as the Auxiliary bug that seems to be across all variants but I cant say for sure. I have read about the headphone issue only related to Att and have not seen it in the other forums but I could have missed it..
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The AT&T variant has an extra band. Not to say that it's a high use frequency, but I wouldn't want to need that band on the AT&T network when in a specific area and not have it.

conan1600 said:
The att G3 comes with carrier IQ and the radio is not nearly as good as the other models. Also the att model does not have qi wireless charging so it is actually the worst model made.
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In what sense is the radio on the D850 inferior to any other gsm variant?
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done12many2 said:
The AT&T variant has an extra band. Not to say that it's a high use frequency, but I wouldn't want to need that band on the AT&T network when in a specific area and not have it.
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Completely agree. When I was testing the One Plus One for a few days I could feel the difference traveling not having all of the bands on the AT&T network.

Well, I don't think I am going to go to AT&T now, I was thinking about buying a grandfathered unlimited plan but have since heard AT&T is extremely heavy handed in their throttling after ~5GBs and some people get speeds in the 0.5mbps range after the 5GB mark. For now will stick to Verizon and see how heavy handed their unlimited throttling will be once they activate it in October and go from there. Thanks for all the help though!

bose301s said:
Well, I don't think I am going to go to AT&T now, I was thinking about buying a grandfathered unlimited plan but have since heard AT&T is extremely heavy handed in their throttling after ~5GBs and some people get speeds in the 0.5mbps range after the 5GB mark. For now will stick to Verizon and see how heavy handed their unlimited throttling will be once they activate it in October and go from there. Thanks for all the help though!
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Good luck. I have a 10 gig plan and have never noticed any throttling and have used over 7 or 8 gigs frequently but I do not speed check regularly.
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3's&7's said:
In what sense is the radio on the D850 inferior to any other gsm variant?
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Completely agree. When I was testing the One Plus One for a few days I could feel the difference traveling not having all of the bands on the AT&T network.
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I can't say it is versus the Verizon version of the G 3 but there is a thread for this and some say their unlocked variant on att network gets better signal. I can tell you that in real world use and signal tested in comparison to the LG g pro on att network the signal on the G 3 is far worse than the G Pro so I pulled out my note 3 on Att network poped in the same sim card and did the same thing and the Note 3 was able to make a call where the G 3 can not in my low signal areas of my home. So far, after rooting and a few edits this is my only real issue with the G 3 and tolerable. Mine doesnt have lag issues anymore than other phones and I feel I get superb screen angles, clarity and battery life.

conan1600 said:
Good luck. I have a 10 gig plan and have never noticed any throttling and have used over 7 or 8 gigs frequently but I do not speed check regularly.
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I can't say it is versus the Verizon version of the G 3 but there is a thread for this and some say their unlocked variant on att network gets better signal. I can tell you that in real world use and signal tested in comparison to the LG g pro on att network the signal on the G 3 is far worse than the G Pro so I pulled out my note 3 on Att network poped in the same sim card and did the same thing and the Note 3 was able to make a call where the G 3 can not in my low signal areas of my home. So far, after rooting and a few edits this is my only real issue with the G 3 and tolerable. Mine doesnt have lag issues anymore than other phones and I feel I get superb screen angles, clarity and battery life.
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AT&T does not throttle the limited plans like your 10 gig plan. You are simply charged for your overage. The unlimited plans are throttled on a case by case basis. I've exceeded 20 gigs one month without throttling and have been throttled right at 5 gigs on others.
I have a Galaxy S5 and a Galaxy Note 3 and regularly swap my sim card between them and my G3 without degradation in performance.
The T-Mobile versions of Galaxy series phones are known to experience reduced data performance when used on the AT&T LTE network when compared to the AT&T variant. One could only assume the same for the T-Mobile LG G3 on the AT&T LTE network since it's missing one of AT&T's bands.

conan1600 said:
Cant say for sure. I havent personally tested it. The International version can be bought unlocked, T Moble offers many phones in unlocked versions and if they do on the G3 it appears from what ive read it may be better for some. It would depend on if you like Qi better than Power mat and if you're proficient at modding phones. If you are comfortable with rooting and tweak box as well as a bit of build prop edits, the Att d850 is fine. I already am invested in Qi so personally I just bought a 14 dollar Qi film and put it in the otterbox case I use and it works well with Qi.
One thing I havent checked into on the other versions is rotation locking as well. That is annoying to some as it is backwards from samsung and vanilla android. This is changeable in tweakbox though. The amount of bloat is kinda absurd on Att as well lol. There does seem to be a headphone jack issue with the Att version that I havent had on my own phone as well as the Auxiliary bug that seems to be across all variants but I cant say for sure. I have read about the headphone issue only related to Att and have not seen it in the other forums but I could have missed it..
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Did you mod an ATT G3 to use Qi? If so how did you do it?

shikem said:
Did you mod an ATT G3 to use Qi? If so how did you do it?
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Yes. Just bought a qi film that plugs into the usb, it will sit under your protective case like a slip of paper but make sure to tape it down right over the battery. I dont see the listing on eBay atm but a top search in google found plenty. http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Wireless-Charging-Receiver-micro-USB/dp/B00H7FJX7M . Make sure you find one with the right head for our phone and also If I remember right rhere were a few different milliamp versions. Higher equals faster.

what I want to know is how do you buy a "grandfathered unlimited plan"

Samsung Pay issues

Ok had talked to samsung and I'm sure you all aware now about problems with samsung pay.
Straight to the point is that samsung pay is IMEI based app which will only work in country where it was issued. In other words it's region locked. So if we can somehow unlock the region then we might be able to use samsung pay on it.
This pissed me off so much. I bought the watch because it had samsung pay but didn't know about these region locked thing. Thought it's only for bank cards of country that support it, not about region locking
This suck big times

NeoXTC said:
Ok had talked to samsung and I'm sure you all aware now about problems with samsung pay.
Straight to the point is that samsung pay is IMEI based app which will only work in country where it was issued. In other words it's region locked. So if we can somehow unlock the region then we might be able to use samsung pay on it.
This pissed me off so much. I bought the watch because it had samsung pay but didn't know about these region locked thing. Thought it's only for bank cards of country that support it, not about region locking
This suck big times
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You didn't know Samsung gives you stuff and then prevents you from using it?
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I have the same issue. I live the in the UK and I bought my Gear S3 Frontier in Dubai. When I opened Samsung Pay on the Gear S3 in the UK (released yesterday) I couldn't understand why it was only allowing cards from Arab Emirates banks. Anybody have any fixes for this?
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Further update... it appears my previous statement is incorrect. Only certain UK banks have signed up to Samsung Pay at the moment. I have just tested a Nationwide (UK) Debit Card on my Samsung Gear S3 (purchased in Dubai) and it works. Apologies for misleading anyone.

agwhite said:
I have the same issue. I live the in the UK and I bought my Gear S3 Frontier in Dubai. When I opened Samsung Pay on the Gear S3 in the UK (released yesterday) I couldn't understand why it was only allowing cards from Arab Emirates banks. Anybody have any fixes for this?
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Further update... it appears my previous statement is incorrect. Only certain UK banks have signed up to Samsung Pay at the moment. I have just tested a Nationwide (UK) Debit Card on my Samsung Gear S3 (purchased in Dubai) and it works. Apologies for misleading anyone.
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Ah, you're lucky then as the UK IMEI's aren't getting the app.

G955F or G955U？

the pre-order for unlocked G955U is avaliable and I'm struggling whether to get an international version of G955F or US unlocked version G955U.
I know the CPU difference and I guess it should not be noticeable in daily use, but is there any other differences that I should bear in mind? I care about the rootability and OS updates

This is pretty obvious choice if you care about root as long as you dont use verizon or sprint the choice is international for sure

Yep, Exynos unlocked Bootloader! Party on XDA!

hexi110 said:
the pre-order for unlocked G955U is avaliable and I'm struggling whether to get an international version of G955F or US unlocked version G955U.
I know the CPU difference and I guess it should not be noticeable in daily use, but is there any other differences that I should bear in mind? I care about the rootability and OS updates
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955U is a waste of money
Easy choice if your on a GSM network
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G955U is not worth it. The General consensus is that there will be no proper root or unlocked bootloader at best it will be buggy. Which carrier are you with?
Mean while the G955F is already has TWRP, Custom Roms and Root.

Thanks for the replies, I'm using AT&T, so the carrier is not a problem, and acctually I also prefer the international version.
There's a good pre-order deal for G955U and G955U also has the warranty, that's the reason why I'm thinking about G955U

hexi110 said:
Thanks for the replies, I'm using AT&T, so the carrier is not a problem, and acctually I also prefer the international version.
There's a good pre-order deal for G955U and G955U also has the warranty, that's the reason why I'm thinking about G955U
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Only thing you will miss is volte, wifi calling & Samsung pay , so be mentally prepared, only thing stopping me from ordering exynos is fear of receiving a phone with red tint
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If you buy from b&h comes with one year warranty though them

Shuthefrontdoor said:
Only thing you will miss is volte, wifi calling & Samsung pay , so be mentally prepared, only thing stopping me from ordering exynos is fear of receiving a phone with red tint
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If you buy from b&h comes with one year warranty though them
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B&H is a good choice for me, although I found some cheaper options from ebay, but I feel B&H is safer.
I only use Samsung pay occasionally, but that's just because the deal they provide, and acctually it's not widely acceptable in many stores.
As for red tint, I guess it should be fixed by the OS update?

hexi110 said:
B&H is a good choice for me, although I found some cheaper options from ebay, but I feel B&H is safer.
I only use Samsung pay occasionally, but that's just because the deal they provide, and acctually it's not widely acceptable in many stores.
As for red tint, I guess it should be fixed by the OS update?
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I'm personally not ok with having to adjust screen and keeping it on adaptive mode to remove the tint, it should be good straight out the box but that's just me, my wife has an att one and her screen was fine right from the get go

Shuthefrontdoor said:
I'm personally not ok with having to adjust screen and keeping it on adaptive mode to remove the tint, it should be good straight out the box but that's just me, my wife has an att one and her screen was fine right from the get go
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I guess I have to bless for a perfect phone after I place my order

hexi110 said:
I guess I have to bless for a perfect phone after I place my order
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Just checked b&h blk s8+ isn't in stock

Shuthefrontdoor said:
Just checked b&h blk s8+ isn't in stock
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I prefer the gold one

hexi110 said:
I prefer the gold one
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The gold one looks incredible.
Its a different type of gold than my S6 or note 7...really nice tone to it
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force70 said:
The gold one looks incredible.
Its a different type of gold than my S6 or note 7...really nice tone to it
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great to hear that, I just placed my order

I know this thread is old, but the U variant (snapdragon) handles game emulation a lot better than the Exynos models, if that is your sort of thing.

SM-G955F ==> Root and T-mobile services question(s)

Hello,
If you don't care about Samsung Pay too much are there really any downsides of rooting? Samsung Pay is not working for me anyway with T-mo in the US (w/o root currently), and Wifi Calling and VOLTE not working due the the different CSC.
I am thinking about rooting and I know that I can flash the T-Mo CSC to get WIFI calling and VOLTE working here- my question is what still does not work on T-Mo in the US that works on the 955U (The T-mo version)?
Thanks in advance!

seeing as how there is no root for USA models, you cant root...unless you have the exynos version.
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now if you have a exynos version go for it! only reason to spend 870+ on it really lol. least for my use that is. there is no downfall and no drawbacks aside from knox tripping but who really cares aboyt that anyways? cetain roms trick the knox to 0. i refuse to buy any phone from the usa unless there is root or a jailbreak if your an ios fan..

Thanks, I rooted and I'm Not Looking Back
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Gear S3 and S8+ on Sprint - plan or no plan?

I've been researching this the last few days and even chatted with a Sprint rep (which was pretty much useless)...I can't seem to get an answer on this one simple question--if I get a Gear S3 with LTE and "pair it" to my S8+, what (if anything) is needed for me to be able to go out on a run without my phone and STILL be able to receive texts, calls and emails on my watch? Is there some $5-10/month plan I need? I understand that the watch and phone don't technically need be on the same provider, but I would like to stick with Sprint for everything.
Thanks.

Sturmie said:
I've been researching this the last few days and even chatted with a Sprint rep (which was pretty much useless)...I can't seem to get an answer on this one simple question--if I get a Gear S3 with LTE and "pair it" to my S8+, what (if anything) is needed for me to be able to go out on a run without my phone and STILL be able to receive texts, calls and emails on my watch? Is there some $5-10/month plan I need? I understand that the watch and phone don't technically need be on the same provider, but I would like to stick with Sprint for everything.
Thanks.
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I've got the unlocked Gear S3 on TMobile for LTE and my Sprint S7E gets forwarded to the Gear S3 when I go out without it. Now on the Note 8 (Sprint) instead. The Gear S3 has an eSIM. No problems for me using it this way. I can also make and receive calls on the Gear S3 stand alone as well.

kbboykin said:
I've got the unlocked Gear S3 on TMobile for LTE and my Sprint S7E gets forwarded to the Gear S3 when I go out without it. Now on the Note 8 (Sprint) instead. The Gear S3 has an eSIM. No problems for me using it this way. I can also make and receive calls on the Gear S3 stand alone as well.
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Thanks for the reply. I assume you mean that your Gear S3 is on T-Mobile and your Note 8 is on Sprint, correct? So, how much are you paying for the Gear S3 LTE per month? I was hoping to avoid having bills from two different carriers.

Sturmie said:
Thanks for the reply. I assume you mean that your Gear S3 is on T-Mobile and your Note 8 is on Sprint, correct? So, how much are you paying for the Gear S3 LTE per month? I was hoping to avoid having bills from two different carriers.
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Yes, that's right. Many others managed to get the TMobile for $5/month, but I wasn't on them so I pay $20/mom ($15/mon on auto pay), but it is unlimited and I'm not on a contract.

kbboykin said:
Yes, that's right. Many others managed to get the TMobile for $5/month, but I wasn't on them so I pay $20/mom ($15/mon on auto pay), but it is unlimited and I'm not on a contract.
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Yeah, I read somewhere that if you have an existing T-Mobile account, you can get a smartwatch added for only $5/month (with auto-pay), but as a Sprint user, I think I'd be in the situation as you and wind up with $15/month. For what I would use it for, I'm not sure that $15/month is worth it to me...I only need to be away from my phone with the watch a few times per week. I appreciate the info though, thanks.
Do you know if Sprint is planning on adding plans for ANY smartwatches? In the chat conversation with them earlier, they mentioned the new Apple watch as an option (I have all Android devices, obviously), but nothing else that supported LTE.

Sturmie said:
Yeah, I read somewhere that if you have an existing T-Mobile account, you can get a smartwatch added for only $5/month (with auto-pay), but as a Sprint user, I think I'd be in the situation as you and wind up with $15/month. For what I would use it for, I'm not sure that $15/month is worth it to me...I only need to be away from my phone with the watch a few times per week. I appreciate the info though, thanks.
Do you know if Sprint is planning on adding plans for ANY smartwatches? In the chat conversation with them earlier, they mentioned the new Apple watch as an option (I have all Android devices, obviously), but nothing else that supported LTE.
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No, but that would be the only reason. They have not offered a smart watch plan since the Gear S.

kbboykin said:
No, but that would be the only reason. They have not offered a smart watch plan since the Gear S.
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Gotcha, well that's disappointing.
Thanks again for the info.

Sturmie said:
Gotcha, well that's disappointing.
Thanks again for the info.
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Glad I could help.

Galaxy watch and note 8 help
kbboykin said:
I've got the unlocked Gear S3 on TMobile for LTE and my Sprint S7E gets forwarded to the Gear S3 when I go out without it. Now on the Note 8 (Sprint) instead. The Gear S3 has an eSIM. No problems for me using it this way. I can also make and receive calls on the Gear S3 stand alone as well.
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can you tell me how u achieved it

JJ.Evoking said:
can you tell me how u achieved it
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Just walked into t mobile after pairing with my note 8 and had them activate the eSIM

kbboykin said:
Just walked into t mobile after pairing with my note 8 and had them activate the eSIM
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oh my girlfriend got me one for a gift. with a data plan on tmobile, however im a sprint customer..... will it work for sprint

JJ.Evoking said:
oh my girlfriend got me one for a gift. with a data plan on tmobile, however im a sprint customer..... will it work for sprint
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No sprint has no data plan for the watch and the watch's radio is not on the CMDA network of Sprint, but on the GSM of T-Mobile. If I'm wrong, others chime in.