Do we think the unlocked model will work on Verizon? I know last year you had to flash the Verizon firmware to get it to work. I'd love a phone I can swap between TMobile and Verizon.
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It looks like it covers VZW bands.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u11/
https://smile.amazon.com/HTC-U11-Factory-Unlocked-Brilliant/dp/B0722X3M9F/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495196914&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+u11
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Network
2G/2.5G- GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
900/850/AWS/1900/2100 (B8/B5/B4/B2/B1 with 900/850/AWS/1900/2100 diversity), HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (up to 600Mbps download speed/with 2CA, 3CA Carrier Aggregation and 256 QAM, service dependent)
FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/
B13/B17/B20/B25/B26/B28/B66
TDD: Bands B41
VoLTE,Wi-Fi Calling
Cat 16 LTE ready with 4x4MIMO, supports near 1Gbps download speeds and upload speeds of up to 75Mbps
fuzzynco said:
It looks like it covers VZW bands.
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u11/
https://smile.amazon.com/HTC-U11-Factory-Unlocked-Brilliant/dp/B0722X3M9F/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495196914&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+u11
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Network
2G/2.5G- GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
900/850/AWS/1900/2100 (B8/B5/B4/B2/B1 with 900/850/AWS/1900/2100 diversity), HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (up to 600Mbps download speed/with 2CA, 3CA Carrier Aggregation and 256 QAM, service dependent)
FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/
B13/B17/B20/B25/B26/B28/B66
TDD: Bands B41
VoLTE,Wi-Fi Calling
Cat 16 LTE ready with 4x4MIMO, supports near 1Gbps download speeds and upload speeds of up to 75Mbps
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Right, but it doesn't list CDMA. I know the HTC 10 said it supported band 13 and CDMA, but it wouldn't take a Verizon SIM unless you flashed the Verizon firmware to it.
geoff5093 said:
Right, but it doesn't list CDMA. I know the HTC 10 said it supported band 13 and CDMA, but it wouldn't take a Verizon SIM unless you flashed the Verizon firmware to it.
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I phoned and asked Verizon if the device would work on their network.
They said they needed an IMEI to put in there system software to
answer that.
As its initally specific to Sprint, where would get the VZW firmware (radios)?
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fuzzynco said:
I phoned and asked Verizon if the device would work on their network.
They said they needed an IMEI to put in there system software to
answer that.
As its initally specific to Sprint, where would get the VZW firmware (radios)?
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Talked to HTC and they show availability for AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile & Verizon as well as unlocked.
*The unlocked HTC 11 is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks .
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u11/buy/#!color=black
Link to buy page where can select the carrier specific version or unlocked.
The CSR at HTC did comment that since it doesn't have the CDMA & 3G baseband radios you could only use it,
(the unlocked variant), on 4G or wi-fi which could be problemactical.
I guess we have to wait till its released and someone extracts the radio partition from the VZW variant and
then the unlocked version can be overlayed with that like it was done on HTC 10?
fuzzynco said:
I phoned and asked Verizon if the device would work on their network.
They said they needed an IMEI to put in there system software to
answer that.
As its initally specific to Sprint, where would get the VZW firmware (radios)?
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Talked to HTC and they show availability for AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile & Verizon as well as unlocked.
*The unlocked HTC 11 is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks .
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-u11/buy/#!color=black
Link to buy page where can select the carrier specific version or unlocked.
The CSR at HTC did comment that since it doesn't have the CDMA & 3G baseband radios you could only use it,
(the unlocked variant), on 4G or wi-fi which could be problemactical.
I guess we have to wait till its released and someone extracts the radio partition from the VZW variant and
then the unlocked version can be overlayed with that like it was done on HTC 10?
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That must have recently changed, because a couple days ago they only had Sprint, Verizon, and unlocked models (now they have T-Mobile and AT&T), and the unlocked model said it only worked on T-Mobile and AT&T.
Weird.
I purchased two and selected the Verizon icon when configuring.
Hoping that I get the VZW version which is also ROW compliant.
EDIT: This thread prompted me to contact a CSR on the HTC website chat. They stated that, Yes the Unlocked will work on Verizon. And, if I get the Verizon version, it will be locked to VZW only.
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*The unlocked HTC 11 is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks .
So, I canceled my orders for Verizon version and ordered a Sapphire Blue Unlocked. They had better not be wrong.
BoulderGeek said:
Weird.
I purchased two and selected the Verizon icon when configuring.
Hoping that I get the VZW version which is also ROW compliant.
EDIT: This thread prompted me to contact a CSR on the HTC website chat. They stated that, Yes the Unlocked will work on Verizon. And, if I get the Verizon version, it will be locked to VZW only.
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*The unlocked HTC 11 is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks .
So, I canceled my orders for Verizon version and ordered a Sapphire Blue Unlocked. They had better not be wrong.
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Same Here switched my order from the Verizon version to the Unlocked version after they told me the same thing. They also have a buyer remorse period of 20 days with a full money back return minus the shipping fees.
We will most definitely be getting Verizon running on the unlocked version !
Virus said:
We will most definitely be getting Verizon running on the unlocked version !
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Happy to hear a Dev say this. Can't wait to see what the Dev Community can do with the unlocked version. :good:
I have a theory that even if you choose the Verizon model, you're getting an unlocked model. And my experience (unless I did something wrong) might point to that.
I CLEARLY remember clicking on Verizon before checking out and pre-ordering the phone. Today, after finding out that the Unlocked version ALSO is compatible with Verizon, I went to HTC Support Chat to see if they can somehow give me the coupon code I used to pre-order back so I can put it instead towards the unlocked version. It takes a few minutes, and the rep comes back and tells me that I did pre-order the unlocked model.
So one of two things happened:
1.) I actually pre-ordered the Unlocked version from the get go without realizing and it worked in my favor.
2.) I pre-ordered the Verizon version which also happens to be the Unlocked version.
RemnantKing2 said:
I have a theory that even if you choose the Verizon model, you're getting an unlocked model. And my experience (unless I did something wrong) might point to that.
I CLEARLY remember clicking on Verizon before checking out and pre-ordering the phone. Today, after finding out that the Unlocked version ALSO is compatible with Verizon, I went to HTC Support Chat to see if they can somehow give me the coupon code I used to pre-order back so I can put it instead towards the unlocked version. It takes a few minutes, and the rep comes back and tells me that I did pre-order the unlocked model.
So one of two things happened:
1.) I actually pre-ordered the Unlocked version from the get go without realizing and it worked in my favor.
2.) I pre-ordered the Verizon version which also happens to be the Unlocked version.
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Probably option 1. Their sites is laggy (as least for me it was) and my still have my Verizon version ordered from 2 days ago, hasn't changed.
I also ordered an unlocked model yesterday on another account.
Seems that there will be only one MID for North America (device name htc_ocnwhl, 4/64, single SIM) with two CIDs for US Unlocked and Sprint.
BoulderGeek said:
Weird.
I purchased two and selected the Verizon icon when configuring.
Hoping that I get the VZW version which is also ROW compliant.
EDIT: This thread prompted me to contact a CSR on the HTC website chat. They stated that, Yes the Unlocked will work on Verizon. And, if I get the Verizon version, it will be locked to VZW only.
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*The unlocked HTC 11 is compatible with AT&T, T‑Mobile and Verizon Networks .
So, I canceled my orders for Verizon version and ordered a Sapphire Blue Unlocked. They had better not be wrong.
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By any chance did you ask if the Verizon version will have the ability to unlock the bootloader?
Quite a screw up for changing up the info for the unlocked version. Strange thing is they haven't sold an unlocked version compatible with Verizon out of the box that I recall. Guess I'll have to call to see if I can get a consistent or different response from others calling in.
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Kisakuku said:
Seems that there will be only one MID for North America (device name htc_ocnwhl, 4/64, single SIM) with two CIDs for US Unlocked and Sprint.
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This would make you think the Verizon version might be an unlocked version but I'm sure it's locked down. Can't wait until this gets ironed out.
fyi---there is no Verizon specific model...it doesn't matter if u choose att, tmo or vzw, they're all the unlocked model...
oh & another fyi---Verizon will be LTE ONLY...no CDMA...that's gonna suck for those w/o solid LTE coverage
I reordered the unlocked version and put in a cancel request for the Verizon one. Hopefully they get my cancel request and I don't end up with two lol
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oneandroidnut said:
I reordered the unlocked version and put in a cancel request for the Verizon one. Hopefully they get my cancel request and I don't end up with two lol
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Like OMJ said above, it's the same exact model.
Kisakuku said:
Like OMJ said above, it's the same exact model.
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So I could still get stuck with two lol
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I spoke with HTC rep and this is what they said
The Verizon model, will come working only with Verizon's LTE bands and will receive all the updates that Verizon Launches, however, the Unlocked version is compatible with Verizon too but will get the updates faster, and you will be able to swap carrier.
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oneandroidnut said:
I spoke with HTC rep and this is what they said
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They are just going with what was true for HTC 10. As always, HTC reps are clueless. There is no Verizon U11, otherwise it would be listed for sale on HTC US.
Kisakuku said:
They are just going with what was true for HTC 10. As always, HTC reps are clueless. There is no Verizon U11, otherwise it would be listed for sale on HTC US.
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Exactly, the rep doesn't know what they're talking about... There is no Verizon model, only unlocked & Sprint. Updates for Verizon will come from HTC.
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Related
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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They didn't block the bands. According to pdadb, the 920A and 920T don't have CDMA.
Unlocking att s6
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
zboy2 said:
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
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musakilimanjaro said:
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
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You guys are confusing "unlocked" terms. There's a carrier unlock and a bootloader unlock. VZW phones are carrier unlocked and work on any network as long as the radio has the proper frequency support. But VZW phones are bootloader locked, meaning you can't flash unsigned packages to the device i..e. no root yet.
S6 att unlock
hi was it easy to get the att s6 unlocked. Thanks.
Mostly correct except root does not necessarily depend on unlocked bootloader, which you somewhat implied by the end of your statement.
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
I want the S6 but not if the bootloader is locked. I know that Verizon and ATT are the two carriers who will lock the bootloader. I'm not sure if a T-Mobile line would work due to their using GSM rather than CDMA, but doesn't Sprint use CDMA? Would we be able to purchase a Sprint variant that doesn't have a locked bootloader and then use that phone on Verizon?
Would a Vzw version work on GSM carriers including LTE? I am thinking of buying one off contract for the wife, but want it to be able to go to a cheaper prepaid service later once our contract expires.
t mobile phone on Verizon network
Would the T mobile S6 work with Verizon LTE data only? Did you try to surf the Internet?
Will a Verizon S6 work on T-Mobile? LTE as well?
It should work fine but be aware that VZW uses different LTE bands than TMO. VZW uses Bands 13/4 with 13 as Primary and TMO uses primarily Band 4 but will enable band 12 soon.
geoff5093 said:
My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
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Well, when carriers started putting up powers that supported LTE, the phone manufacturers were releasing phones that supported CDMA and LTE because LTE wasn't widespread enough to get an LTE signal. CDMA technology will eventually be replaced by LTE. Qualcomm owns all the parents for CDMA, so whenever anyone makes a call using CDMA, QCOM collects their revenue checks, which used to represent 51% of total revenues. It's cheaper for the carriers to run LTE because QCOM doesn't own the entire technology and they won't have to pay the royalties to QCOM for using their technology (kind of like using H.265 vs VP9 for 4K video compression. Royalties using the older H.265 compression maxed out at $5 million a year. H. 265 maxes out at $25 million vs Google's VP9 free open-source technology for video compression.
Once enough towers are up that support LTE, handsets won't come with the availability to use CDMA technology anymore. Next thing we'll see are cable providers putting up hotspot all around the city (I've already seen it with Comcast, but this could really hurt the phone companies since people won't even be using LTE anymore, just like when people had to use much slower data connections in rural areas on their cell phones because they didn't have towers. VOIP will also hurt the carriers.
So, to answer that, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't built to support CDMA anymore. These balloons that just started being launched by Google to provide Internet access to everyone in the world will be interesting to see how functional it is. It would be nice top have a high speed connection anywhere in the world.
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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pembertj said:
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
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99% sure it wont work, see my post above
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
SDRebel said:
I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
SDRebel said:
Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
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Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Berzerker7 said:
Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
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Right, that's been my speculation for a while, but i have no inside info. Whitelisting every device would be a major PITA though...unless they bulk-whitelist then using data from the manufacturers. ..that also doesnt explain why people report being able to bring an iphone 6 or a nexus 6 over from other nwtworks (not sure if rhey have only gotten lte working and not the cdma part)
I do know the cdma functionality wouldn't be available, but tthe discussion was more along the lines of why it attached to lte ans then nothing.
The strange part is that both OP and I saw LTE eveb if for a split second. ..i would expect N attach reject if it's due to the Whitelisting.
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
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The most likely reason is that you did something wrong. I have personally used verizon s3, verizon s4 and htc rezound in tmobile and other gsm networks. (I will test my s6 soon for t-mobile and cricket)
it's well known that most verizon lte phones are unlocked and have gsm functionality.
My most logical guess is that you didn't set up something like the APN.
Your anecdotal experience does not a rule make. (most common fallacy i see in real life: it didnt work for me so it doesnt work!)
I was thinking of pulling the trigger on pre-order for a few reasons, but have not been able to get an answer of two questions!?
1 ) It says that the Verizon is coming soon, and list Band on the specs, if I pre-order will Verizon compatibility be a software upgrade or will it be a different model phone?
2 ) They talk about a developer edition with unlocked bootloader, is the the unlocked carrier version the same as the developer edition, or is that going to be a different phone all together?
Unfortunately I missed the press conference today and hoping and maybe the questions were answered. Also I figured the great knowledgeable people over here at XDA might know this answer. I have tried contacting HTC support, but it seems their chat system is down. I sent them a Facebook post with these questions, but and not optimistic that they will get back to me.
Anyways thanks,
Leroy
1. Verizon is a software update. It will run on their LTE network. In theory at least. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493426,00.asp
2. I missed if there would be a developer edition. The presentation said the unlocked carrier version can have bootloader unlocked and not void the warranty. https://youtu.be/VZM17XI409M?t=888
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HTC's website says the Verizon update will be released in November. I thought I read somewhere that it should be within a week of launch, but I can't remember where I saw it.
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Is it possible to use an Indian credit card to place an order and ship to USA address? Do they still do the verification and bill only US cards?
pkinetics said:
1. Verizon is a software update. It will run on their LTE network. In theory at least. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493426,00.asp
2. I missed if there would be a developer edition. The presentation said the unlocked carrier version can have bootloader unlocked and not void the warranty. https://youtu.be/VZM17XI409M?t=888
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HTC's website says the Verizon update will be released in November. I thought I read somewhere that it should be within a week of launch, but I can't remember where I saw it.
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Appreciate all the info @pkinetics
My only concern is what the was said in the article. The phone will not have CDMA, so those spots in a building have happened to me oh so much, where I loose LTE and go to 3g. I can assume with this phone that would mean I would have no service. I really applaud HTC for making a move so bold. There are so many unlocked phones world wide for GSM that are really affordable. I just purchased a used phone to hold me out until I decided if I wanted a Nexus 5x or not, but I think that I am gonna go with this phone. I know that I may loose service sometimes, but usually when I am in a building I am on wifi and I use hangouts for all of my calls and sms.
Thanks again for the links
neo4uo said:
I was thinking of pulling the trigger on pre-order for a few reasons, but have not been able to get an answer of two questions!?
1 ) It says that the Verizon is coming soon, and list Band on the specs, if I pre-order will Verizon compatibility be a software upgrade or will it be a different model phone?
2 ) They talk about a developer edition with unlocked bootloader, is the the unlocked carrier version the same as the developer edition, or is that going to be a different phone all together?
Unfortunately I missed the press conference today and hoping and maybe the questions were answered. Also I figured the great knowledgeable people over here at XDA might know this answer. I have tried contacting HTC support, but it seems their chat system is down. I sent them a Facebook post with these questions, but and not optimistic that they will get back to me.
Anyways thanks,
Leroy
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I don't think they're releasing a DevEd. The unlocked version is sim unlocked only I believe.
Nope, in the live stream they said the phone will not lose its warranty with opened bootloader and unlocked condition. And you can install custom roms without losing it too.
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Does anyone know if you can use the unlocked / free US version in Europe / Germany completely without any restriction?
Especially with all frequencies and bands?
Does anyone happen to know if the Sprint version has a CDMA radio? (Just wondering if it might be possible to migrate the sprint version over to verizon land.) LTE-only on Verizon will be a bit of an issue for voice calls in spotty / fringe areas...
swinokur said:
Does anyone happen to know if the Sprint version has a CDMA radio? (Just wondering if it might be possible to migrate the sprint version over to verizon land.) LTE-only on Verizon will be a bit of an issue for voice calls in spotty / fringe areas...
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If things go as planned, CDMA on Verizon will be no longer...by end of 2016.
They intend to have their entire CDMA market covered with LTE by that time and will be phasing out legacy CDMA altogether.
VoLTE will BE their voice coverage.
Just throwing that out there...
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Network2
AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
dondrog said:
Network2
AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
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When does shipment start for the USA
Are you sure ? i think they are 2 models for htc one A9 with different support for lte bands.
dondrog said:
Network2
AT&T,TMUS,VzW: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
SPCS: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; CDMA BC0/BC1/BC10 4G LTE Bands FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
What SPCS mean?
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SPCS = Sprint
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Aloha Santod,
Are you going to dev for this model?
Mahalo
ghosttown242 said:
When does shipment start for the USA
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I've seen blurbs about:
1. Shipping early November. I swear I heard in the presentation he said first week of November. I'm guessing this is basic colors.
2. Acid gold and deep garnet will ship late November.
3. Sprint has said they will have the A9 available Nov 6. AT&T has committed, but not set a date or price.
The USA need to start next week Monday in my opinion.
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Aloha Santod,
Are you going to dev for this model?
Mahalo
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Most likely...
Well, HTC updated A9 Verizon info on their site.
Instead of "Verizon coming soon"
Now it says: "Verizon coming in December"
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Aloha Santod,
I couldn't help myself and ended up pulling the trigger on the unlocked version. I'm hoping that if what they say is true that this will run on Verizon. If the boot loader is accessible for unlocking and it works on Verizon I will be one step closer to your custom roms.I decided to sell my M9 because I was dissapointed with the camera and I'm currently using my m8 to pass the time. Hope you decide to do your magic on this unit.
Mahalo Bro.
so its a preorder now, when will this ship for gsm models? i may return my m9 and buy this instead.
I think the a9 is a beautiful device for its price
The Sprint version has all the bands necessary for project Fi. Wonder if that's in the cards as well.
Do you guys think the Verizon unit will have the same LTE bands as the Play Store model? I can get these st 2yr contract pricing on my Verizon business account and would like to use one on AT&T service, but need to be sure Band 12/17 is unlocked and ready for use.
The answer is yes, there are only different frequency bands for the intl and US versions. The US version, which Verizon is selling, supports all major carriers, according to Google.
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The answer is yes, there are only different frequency bands for the intl and US versions. The US version, which Verizon is selling, supports all major carriers, according to Google.
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My only concern is that the Verizon website does not list all US LTE bands such as Band 12 or Band 17. This was an issue with my Note 7 also. Band 12/17 were capable and supported by the hardware, but Verizon locked these from being used. It wasn't until I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto my Verizon Note 7 unit that I was able to use those 2 LTE bands.
alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
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alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
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This is 100% wrong. No Verizon phone's have been locked to the carrier for a few years now.
mdmogren said:
This is 100% wrong. No Verizon phone's have been locked to the carrier for a few years now.
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Correct they have been carrier unlocked since the iPhone 5 came out. Verizon still locks the LTE bands for data, however. The only phones that have unlocked LTE bands on Verizon are iPhones, because Verizon does not/cannot tamper with the firmware before boxing the phones up.
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Correct they have been carrier unlocked since the iPhone 5 came out. Verizon still locks the LTE bands for data, however. The only phones that have unlocked LTE bands on Verizon are iPhones, because Verizon does not/cannot tamper with the firmware before boxing the phones up.
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Evidence? I've had no problem using several verizon phones on T-Mobile LTE bands.
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Evidence? I've had no problem using several verizon phones on T-Mobile LTE bands.
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That is because Verizon uses the same bands as TMobile in many areas of the country, so those bands are unlocked. Verizon does not use AT&T's primary bands at all, so they lock it out. (Band 17)
As a quick example, AT&T uses Band 3 in more rural areas and I was able to catch a bar or two of LTE here and there on a 100% stock Verizon Note 7 with AT&T sim card in it since Verizon also uses Band 3, , but it would quickly fall back to HSPA because it lost band 3 signal. I verified this with LTE Discovery app. At my office I only have Band 17 from ATT, so I was only getting HSPA. As soon as I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto the Verizon Note 7, I had full LTE signal on Band 17.
Since Verizon cannot legally carrier SIM lock their devices anymore, they still do what they can to make the phones as unusable as possible on other carriers with their firmware, including a message that pops up every time you start the phone saying "this sim is not from Verizon"
I'm trying to figure out if the Pixel will be the same story as my Note 7, in which Verizon locks out a majority of LTE bands. And if so, can the Play Store version firmware be flashed onto thr Verizon version of the Pixel to unlock these bands?
The Snapdragon 821 supports all LTE bands so I know it won't be hardware limited, only firmware limited.
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That is because Verizon uses the same bands as TMobile in many areas of the country, so those bands are unlocked. Verizon does not use AT&T's primary bands at all, so they lock it out. (Band 17)
As a quick example, AT&T uses Band 3 in more rural areas and I was able to catch a bar or two of LTE here and there on a 100% stock Verizon Note 7 with AT&T sim card in it since Verizon also uses Band 3, , but it would quickly fall back to HSPA because it lost band 3 signal. I verified this with LTE Discovery app. At my office I only have Band 17 from ATT, so I was only getting HSPA. As soon as I flashed AT&T Note 7 firmware onto the Verizon Note 7, I had full LTE signal on Band 17.
Since Verizon cannot legally carrier SIM lock their devices anymore, they still do what they can to make the phones as unusable as possible on other carriers with their firmware, including a message that pops up every time you start the phone saying "this sim is not from Verizon"
I'm trying to figure out if the Pixel will be the same story as my Note 7, in which Verizon locks out a majority of LTE bands. And if so, can the Play Store version firmware be flashed onto thr Verizon version of the Pixel to unlock these bands?
The Snapdragon 821 supports all LTE bands so I know it won't be hardware limited, only firmware limited.
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The only reason LTE won't work on at&t is because at&t won't provision it unless it's an At&t branded phone. You can get around this by having them activte your sim in an at&t store phone. My brother used to have at&t and I gave him my old S7E from Verizon which had full LTE after doing that.
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The only reason LTE won't work on at&t is because at&t won't provision it unless it's an At&t branded phone. You can get around this by having them activte your sim in an at&t store phone. My brother used to have at&t and I gave him my old S7E from Verizon which had full LTE after doing that.
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That is correct IF there isn't a LTE capable IMEI on your AT&T account, you would need to have them add the LTE capable IMEI and provision LTE. This issue is based on Verizon's firmware and their lockdown, however. I have thoroughly tested this and even entered service mode to see what bands are available with Verizon firmware vs AT&T firmware.
not good news for the verizon pixel with att. Some guy on the pixel xl xda reported he is getting only H+ with the verizon pixel xl. Definitely need more people to check it out. Donr believe PC mag one bit. They said bootloader was unlocked but it turned out to be LOCKED.
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not good news for the verizon pixel with att. Some guy on the pixel xl xda reported he is getting only H+ with the verizon pixel xl. Definitely need more people to check it out. Donr believe PC mag one bit. They said bootloader was unlocked but it turned out to be LOCKED.
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I'm using a VZW Pixel XL on AT&T and I have the best reception I have ever had. I don't know why he's not getting LTE coverage, but that's not my experience whatsoever.
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I'm using a VZW Pixel XL on AT&T and I have the best reception I have ever had. I don't know why he's not getting LTE coverage, but that's not my experience whatsoever.
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If you install LTE Discovery you can see the band you're connected do. If the phone can connect to band 12 or 17, I would say the Verizon version most likely supports all LTE bands.
I am using a Verizon Pixel currently on a 850Mhz/1.9Ghz GSM and Band 4 (2.1Ghz) and I am experiencing no issues. I used my carrier's SIM, and the only thing I had to do differently was update the SCMS in the *#*#3646#*#* to match my carrier's Service Center ID. This allowed my SMS to work. I experience no issues here as the phone operates as though it were unlocked.
I've even used the VZW pixel on T-Mobile and had band 12 carrier aggregation with band 2. Definitely not a problem and same bands.
I believe the only difference is the imei disallows bootloader unlocking. And the post boot Verizon three app install (which is an easy uninstall)
Doesn't att require the imei added for LTE? They audit accounts on the regular and if they find an unknown imei they disallow LTE.
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I've even used the VZW pixel on T-Mobile and had band 12 carrier aggregation with band 2. Definitely not a problem and same bands.
I believe the only difference is the imei disallows bootloader unlocking. And the post boot Verizon three app install (which is an easy uninstall)
Doesn't att require the imei added for LTE? They audit accounts on the regular and if they find an unknown imei they disallow LTE.
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Thanks for posting, VZW wouldn't lock certain frequencies (12 and 17) on the Pixels like others have stated since their phones have been fully unlocked for years. This phone works with all US carriers.
jawmail said:
Thanks for posting, VZW wouldn't lock certain frequencies (12 and 17) on the Pixels like others have stated since their phones have been fully unlocked for years. This phone works with all US carriers.
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Yup and on top of that they seem 100% feature parity. I've even seen (on my Verizon sim) the option for volte video calling. And volte voice definitely works on T-Mobile as well as wifi calling.
Just the locked bootloader is the only downside.
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alright I take it back. According to google, it is carrier locked to verizon http://i.imgur.com/Jc9eV9E.png
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This is 100% incorrect. It is NOT locked to a carrier, and does support all bands. I have been using my VZW Pixel on other carriers.
TCPDump said:
This is 100% incorrect. It is NOT locked to a carrier, and does support all bands. I have been using my VZW Pixel on other carriers.
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Agreed, those customer service reps. need more training.
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Agreed, those customer service reps. need more training.
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The misinformation and confusion about this phone in general all the way around astounds me. It's actually rather simple. The only major difference in the Verizon variant from the play is that the bootloader is locked.
Can anyone confirm that will the unlocked Sprint version of HTC U11 work with AT&T or T-Mobile? I chatted with both HTC and Sprint agents but not getting a sure answer. HTC agent said that even it's unlocked it will only work with CDMA carriers. The Sprint agent said it depends on the other carriers to be compatible with the device. Thus has anyone tested and confirmed it will or will not work on AT&T or T-Mobile? Thanks.
If Sprint unlocks it, it has the radios according to HTC's own specs page. There is no band 30 support for at&t on any model and there is no band 66 for T-Mobile on the Sprint model but the main bands are there.
The question is if Sprint will unlock it for domestic usage though. They have an inconsistent track record with that.
Sprints domestic unlock policy
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unlock it yourself I have confirmed this method works
the US Unlocked & Sprint models have the same hardware, just different ROMs. I have only tested w/ a Verizon sim, but I am confident ATT & TMO will work fine.
if we had s-off, it would be even better, then you could flash the US Unlocked RUU
The hardware is the same on all models so it will work fine once you get it unlocked.
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OMJ said:
Sprints domestic unlock policy
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unlock it yourself I have confirmed this method works
the US Unlocked & Sprint models have the same hardware, just different ROMs. I have only tested w/ a Verizon sim, but I am confident ATT & TMO will work fine.
if we had s-off, it would be even better, then you could flash the US Unlocked RUU
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The hardware is the same on all models so it will work fine once you get it unlocked.
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The hardware is not the same across all models. The Sprint model has a CDMA radio and does not support all bands the US unlocked version does but it will work fine on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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The hardware is not the same across all models. The Sprint model has a CDMA radio and does not support all bands the US unlocked version does but it will work fine on AT&T and T-Mobile.
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I know for a fact the Sprint & us unlocked have the same hardware... No idea about overseas models
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@OMJ @EtherealRemnant Please don't argue in another members thread with what is essentially nonsense, You both provided answers to the OP and let's just leave it at that. I've cleaned this thread up and hopefully it stays clean. Thank you.
Hello everyone,
I am looking to buy an Unlocked Note 9 (US Version) to be used primarily on the Sprint Network. I am looking at new phones on Ebay and Amazon and they are all labeled as GSM unlocked or some of them say GSM and CDMA unlocked, yet they all say they cannot work on the Sprint or Metro PCS or Verizon network. Some of the ads show that they have SM-960U1(unlocked) firmware some others show SM-960U firmware while still stating "unlocked", but I am not sure if they understand the difference or maybe I do not.
Aside for the phone being blacklisted on these networks, is there any other reason why a Note 9 would not work on these CDMA networks if they are truly unlocked? Thanks in advance.
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Hello everyone,
I am looking to buy an Unlocked Note 9 (US Version) to be used primarily on the Sprint Network. I am looking at new phones on Ebay and Amazon and they are all labeled as GSM unlocked or some of them say GSM and CDMA unlocked, yet they all say they cannot work on the Sprint or Metro PCS or Verizon network. Some of the ads show that they have SM-960U1(unlocked) firmware some others show SM-960U firmware while still stating "unlocked", but I am not sure if they understand the difference or maybe I do not.
Aside for the phone being blacklisted on these networks, is there any other reason why a Note 9 would not work on these CDMA networks if they are truly unlocked? Thanks in advance.
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If you're going to be using the device primarily on Sprint, why not get an unlocked Sprint version of Note 9? It is guaranteed to work on Sprint's network plus if it is unlocked, it can be used on other carrier networks.
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Droidriven said:
If you're going to be using the device primarily on Sprint, why not get an unlocked Sprint version of Note 9? It is guaranteed to work on Sprint's network plus if it is unlocked, it can be used on other carrier networks.
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Hello Droidriven, I am trying to look for this, but I am unable to. I have not seen any ads specifically stating Sprint Unlocked. Every unlocked phone whether GSM or CDMA unlocked states something along the lines, will not work on sprint or verizon or metro. If the phone is truly unlocked and supports the CDMA bands that Sprint uses, then what is the reason behind it?
I am wondering if I can just buy a Sprint only Note9 then flash the SM-960U1(unlocked) firmware for it?
I went through the same issues with sprint, got a note 9 unlocked from a friend an they said it is not compatible. So I asked about buying a note 9 unlocked from them. I asked what is model number and it was the exact same as the one I just got. I asked what is the difference between one from them and the note 9 I baught from my friend, They said no difference, EXACT SAME! Sprint Just wanted me and you to buy a new phone from them in a contract. The Unlocked model's have modems for both, CDMA and GSM. I was with sprint for 20 years, they were decent only for good deals, service was **** in Milwaukee. I left them for spectrum. No issues and great service. Sorry 2 years late..