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Hello
My carrier is offering Moto G for around $220 in which they have stated clearly not to update any new version of Android even when notified by the OTA.
They have imported from international markets and I think are doing some sort of hack-cracking-DFS to make it workable.
I saw CM wiki in which they say, "This is a unified build that supports retail (XT1031, XT1032, XT1033 and XT1034) and Google Play Edition (XT1032)" ie. the CDMA variant (XT1031) is being developed by CM since the model is listed.
This means if I flash CM, the restricted stock ROM would get erased and I would get the latest Android from CM or any other ROMs based on CM for that matter.
So my queation is will I be able to do the above? I know I cannot go back to stock since images provided by Moto are carrier restricted and the carrier which I'll be using is not in their list.
Is it worth?
Thanks for your help!
ngr.hd said:
will I be able to do the above? I know I cannot go back to stock since images provided by Moto are carrier restricted and the carrier which I'll be using is not in their list.
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You can unlock you bootloader through the Motorola website, which according to Motorola will invalidate your warranty, then you can flash whatever you like - custom recovery, cyanogenmod, etc.
Alternatively, if you just want the system update your carrier isn't providing, you can flash it yourself by downloading the stock firmware from the usual places (see the FAQs/stickies here), since the bootloader-locked versions will still let you flash motorola-signed images. In theory, you should then get OTAs from Motorola, since it'll be as if you bought a network-unlocked handset direct from the manufacturer.
You could always just dump all your partitions before attempting to update with a stock image, then the worst case scenario is you'd have to invalidate your warranty by unlocking the bootloader in order to stick your carrier's funky hacked firmware back on the device.
Who's your carrier?
Oddfeld said:
Who's your carrier?
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It's Reliance CDMA in India which also supports EVDO.
Please visit this:
http://shop.rcom.co.in/motorola/51-moto-g-.html#/color-black
So I can conclude that latest 4.4.2 is possible only after bootloader unlocking and reflashing the generic image found on sticky and Moto dev, right?
But I'm confused, as to why are they stopping me from updating it?
If I flash Boost Mobile or Verizon firmware provided as stock, will I loose the ability to lock on my carrier?
Is this a generic for CDMA (found on File Factory): ACG_XT1031_4.4.2_KXB20.9-1.10-1.43_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
I know KXB20 is baseband but what are the other parameters, CFC, ACG,etc.?
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But I'm confused, as to why are they stopping me from updating it?
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I guess they're trying to avoid supporting this issue: http://www.bgr.in/manufacturers/mot...ard-related-problems-for-some-users-in-india/
It sounds like that's entirely fixable, but just would cause the carrier lots of annoying phonecalls from clueless end users.
better would be you buy [email protected] ₹11999 if your current sim is not CDMA
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It sounds like that's entirely fixable, but just would cause the carrier lots of annoying phonecalls from clueless end users.
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Good reason to do such thing
Now offer is there grab it
bhavin192 said:
better would be you buy [email protected] ₹11999 if your current sim is not CDMA
Good reason to do such thing
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That's the big problem, I cannot switch to GSM from CDMA as my current activated plan wouldn't allow it.
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I guess they're trying to avoid supporting this issue: http://www.bgr.in/manufacturers/mot...ard-related-problems-for-some-users-in-india/
It sounds like that's entirely fixable, but just would cause the carrier lots of annoying phonecalls from clueless end users.
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Moto G CDMA is simless so you need to map MEID by visiting carrier's physical store.
Some more doubts:
1. Unlocking Bootloader would permanently void my warranty since unique key is provided by Motorola itself, even relocking will not help, right?
2. Can someone suggest me a tried and tested guide for dumping partitions? There are so many to choose from but I wonder what method have Moto G owners used.
3. If I flash ROM, recovery, kernels, etc. do I need to everytime map my MEID from their carrier's physical store?
Buying this beauty is almost final...
Thanks once again!
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That's the big problem, I cannot switch to GSM from CDMA as my current activated plan wouldn't allow it.
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To be Honest I would suggest you switch to gsm any post paid with same plan.
Cause this CDMA will always be there to stop you from buying phones like this
Hi guys, well the thing is that I'm planning on getting the T-Mobile variant of the Z3 (D6616) but I would like to know if there is a root method for Lollipop?, since the update is already out. I have have searched all over the internet looking for answers but I couldn't find anything (only for KitKat; I know the LP update was released almost 2 weeks ago). I don't if there's something else necessary (apart from getting root access) to be able to SIM unlock this phone, I don't care about custom ROM's, kernels or any other kind of mod that requires the bootloader to be unlocked. Like I said, I just want to SIM unlock it and use the root access for Titanium Backup and maybe disable or delete the T-Mobile apps. Thanks in advance.
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Hi guys, well the thing is that I'm planning on getting the T-Mobile variant of the Z3 (D6616) but I would like to know if there is a root method for Lollipop?, since the update is already out. I have have searched all over the internet looking for answers but I couldn't find anything (only for KitKat; I know the LP update was released almost 2 weeks ago). I don't if there's something else necessary (apart from getting root access) to be able to SIM unlock this phone, I don't care about custom ROM's, kernels or any other kind of mod that requires the bootloader to be unlocked. Like I said, I just want to SIM unlock it and use the root access for Titanium Backup and maybe disable or delete the T-Mobile apps. Thanks in advance.
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Yes there is root for it but I doubt you will be able to sim unlock it unless you pay full price for it from tmobile and us the sim unlock app that's on the phone already.
Lobo Lansky said:
Yes there is root for it but I doubt you will be able to sim unlock it unless you pay full price for it from tmobile and us the sim unlock app that's on the phone already.
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That's the problem, because there's no way to officially get the Z3 from them (they only have the original Z and the Z1S and the only way to get one is from eBay) and I'm not a T-Mobile costumer. I would like to know if it's possible to get it unlocked with a third party unlock service.
I just bought one for use on AT&T and I'm also looking to sim unlock. I'll update when I find out more.
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If you are one AT&T better to get international version as the 700 Mhz LTE band is different from the TMO version's which is TMO specific. (Band 12)
For indoor use that makes a big difference in signal.
The low bands have better penetration. I am on T-Mobile so for me it's an advantage to use the D6616.
The D6603 (international) supports AT&T 700Mhz in addition to the others.
As for unlocking TMO version, for me I had to call TMO as the app did not work. They will only unlock after 40 days of device use on your account. It's done over the air...
So give it to a TMO customer for temporary use and unlock assuming IMEI is not blocked.
Root on Xperia D6616 T-mobile
AntonyOrtega said:
Hi guys, well the thing is that I'm planning on getting the T-Mobile variant of the Z3 (D6616) but I would like to know if there is a root method for Lollipop?, since the update is already out. I have have searched all over the internet looking for answers but I couldn't find anything (only for KitKat; I know the LP update was released almost 2 weeks ago). I don't if there's something else necessary (apart from getting root access) to be able to SIM unlock this phone, I don't care about custom ROM's, kernels or any other kind of mod that requires the bootloader to be unlocked. Like I said, I just want to SIM unlock it and use the root access for Titanium Backup and maybe disable or delete the T-Mobile apps. Thanks in advance.
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Hi i have managed to Access Root, Deleted T-mobile Applications But Still No success, Have you got any luck to do it ?
mnszaidi said:
Hi i have managed to Access Root, Deleted T-mobile Applications But Still No success, Have you got any luck to do it ?
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Maybe if you can get the HiddenSIMUnlockMenu.apk (Or whatever the app is named on Xperias) from another Xperia?
AntonyOrtega said:
Maybe if you can get the HiddenSIMUnlockMenu.apk (Or whatever the app is named on Xperias) from another Xperia?
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i have found the hidden menu too. and now i am goi ng to explore my phone from PC and hope i will found it and enable it. i think after Enabling it i will be able to use 3rd party unlocking code to unlock. See below Image Push thanks if it helps you
hi
hi, already posted same reply in another sim unlock thread.
i have a d6616 tmobile version and bought the unlock code, non able to input the code, and not able to unlock with the stock app, dual recovery installed and rooted already, is there a way to put the simunlockapp.apk in the system and then using titanium backup pro, to make it internal so after rebooting, simunlock code prompting?
or to flash a rom that prompts the code
or is there any metropcs z3 rom that surely can be flashed even with locked bootloader to tmobile version?
any help
than you very much indeed
Hi, I'm in the exact same situation, Bought a Tmobile Z3 through Ebay, didn't know it wasn't possible to unlocking it by buying an unlock code... so I did, now I have the phone and the unlocking code for nothing... some help here please? thanks in advance.
Lrclaros said:
Hi, I'm in the exact same situation, Bought a Tmobile Z3 through Ebay, didn't know it wasn't possible to unlocking it by buying an unlock code... so I did, now I have the phone and the unlocking code for nothing... some help here please? thanks in advance.
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Same boat. I bought a brand new one with film on it. But it was a phone only, no box or accessories. IMEI was a separate sticker (4 pieces). I tried to unlock a legal way but T-Mobile rep told me it's not in their system. It has printed T-Mobile logo in the back. I also tried official unlock app without success. They advised me to call Sony directly and ask what carrier it belongs to lol. Great phone, much better battery than G3 but unlocked phone is a must. I decline phones with 2k screens. I can't see no difference between Z3 and G3 screens.
Just got mine today and it looks like the value is NO even I have allowed OEM unlock in developer options. A quick search showed if the value is no, you will never be able to unlock.
A very bad news for me. A few questions:
1. is that really not possible to unlock it? Who shall I contact? Sony or Carrier?
2. Can I root with locked Bootloader? And flash TWRP and ROMs?
Thanks
Kan
No, there is no way to root or unlock your bootloader if it reads 'No' on 'bootloader unlock allowed?'
seanwuk said:
Just got mine today and it looks like the value is NO even I have allowed OEM unlock in developer options. A quick search showed if the value is no, you will never be able to unlock.
A very bad news for me. A few questions:
1. is that really not possible to unlock it? Who shall I contact? Sony or Carrier?
2. Can I root with locked Bootloader? And flash TWRP and ROMs?
Thanks
Kan
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I would RMA the device if it's not unlockable.
Unless u don't want to modify anything ever.
Did u got it branded from your network provider?
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langeveld024 said:
I would RMA the device if it's not unlockable.
Unless u don't want to modify anything ever.
Did u got it branded from your network provider?
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RMA means what, return? I got this from an individual, no way to return but to resell.
The carrier is Bell, a Canadian carrier. I don't see their logo on the phone.
DannyCanuck said:
No, there is no way to root or unlock your bootloader if it reads 'No' on 'bootloader unlock allowed?'
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I had lots of devices before. Most of them allow root with unlock bootloader. Sony is an exception?
seanwuk said:
I had lots of devices before. Most of them allow root with unlock bootloader. Sony is an exception?
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Yes it is.
On older Z series it was possible to root on stock kernel and therefore Unlocking bootloader wasn't required for rooting.
Since Z5, they implement Sony RIC and DM-VERITY, which prevents modification to system and therefore root.
To root, we need a kernel supporting root inside the boot image.
We can't flash any kernel other than stock (signed by Sony) on locked bootloader.
seanwuk said:
RMA means what, return? I got this from an individual, no way to return but to resell.
The carrier is Bell, a Canadian carrier. I don't see their logo on the phone.
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That's a bumm.
RMA means sending phone back and receive the money in return.
Did the seller told u it's carrierlocked phone?
Mostly on carrier locked phones there's no sticker or logo from the carrier visible on the outside.
U can try to contact Bell and explain them what's the problem. In some cases a carrier can unlock it for u. (they might charge a little fee for it)
Good luck!
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seanwuk said:
RMA means what, return? I got this from an individual, no way to return but to resell.
The carrier is Bell, a Canadian carrier. I don't see their logo on the phone.
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If you've got the Bell Z5 then you're in the same boat as myself. No way to unlock the bootloader, thus no way to root, meaning I can have ZERO fun with this device. I even paid Bell for a SIM Unlock thinking it might trigger the bootloader unlock option to change to 'Yes' Allowed, but no such luck.
DannyCanuck said:
If you've got the Bell Z5 then you're in the same boat as myself. No way to unlock the bootloader, thus no way to root, meaning I can have ZERO fun with this device. I even paid Bell for a SIM Unlock thinking it might trigger the bootloader unlock option to change to 'Yes' Allowed, but no such luck.
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So I guess you have contacted Bell for unlocking it but no success? Even we would like to pay a fee for it?
langeveld024 said:
Yes it is.
On older Z series it was possible to root on stock kernel and therefore Unlocking bootloader wasn't required for rooting.
Since Z5, they implement Sony RIC and DM-VERITY, which prevents modification to system and therefore root.
To root, we need a kernel supporting root inside the boot image.
We can't flash any kernel other than stock (signed by Sony) on locked bootloader.
That's a bumm.
RMA means sending phone back and receive the money in return.
Did the seller told u it's carrierlocked phone?
Mostly on carrier locked phones there's no sticker or logo from the carrier visible on the outside.
U can try to contact Bell and explain them what's the problem. In some cases a carrier can unlock it for u. (they might charge a little fee for it)
Good luck!
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Thanks for sharing with me. You are very knowledgeable. I bought from a guy who bought from Bell. I doubt Bell will actually support my request. I will try to use it for a bit and resell if I cannot live without root. I have been using root devices since HTC G1.
All phones from carriers usually have locked bootloaders, except for nexus devices. This is why you never buy from a carrier if you want custom roms.
seanwuk said:
Thanks for sharing with me. You are very knowledgeable. I bought from a guy who bought from Bell. I doubt Bell will actually support my request. I will try to use it for a bit and resell if I cannot live without root. I have been using root devices since HTC G1.
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It's worth trying, just see how they react
I got pretty used to root too, since my first Android a galaxy S i9000 lol
Though, when I bought this phone (my second Sony) I decided to use it without root too and in the beginning it was a bit of a struggle but later I didn't miss it at all.
I only unlocked my bootloader after a few months, just to use another kernel.
You can disable most (if not all) bloatware via settings.
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langeveld024 said:
It's worth trying, just see how they react
I got pretty used to root too, since my first Android a galaxy S i9000 lol
Though, when I bought this phone (my second Sony) I decided to use it without root too and in the beginning it was a bit of a struggle but later I didn't miss it at all.
I only unlocked my bootloader after a few months, just to use another kernel.
You can disable most (if not all) bloatware via settings.
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I think Android 6 did a good job controlling app permissions. But thats the thing as you mentioned, you cannot try variety of optimizations from community. sigh.
My boootloader unlock status is also NO.
Is there anyway to flash Androplus kernel with own recovery via fastboot flashtool to get recovery and than trough him install super su zip and with that way root Z5?
Allek84 said:
My boootloader unlock status is also NO.
Is there anyway to flash Androplus kernel with own recovery via fastboot flashtool to get recovery and than trough him install super su zip and with that way root Z5?
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If this or anything simmilar possible?
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Allek84 said:
If this or anything simmilar possible?
Sent from Xperia Z5
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Unfortunately not only way is change the device to one that says Bootloader unlock allowed YES the only carrier/network I know of that supply devices with unlockable Bootloaders for all there handsets whether payg or contract is three UK+Ireland as they only supply devices that are sim free network unlocked devices like what you would get from Sony store one of the main reasons I'm with them
Telstra in Australia have re-branded this phone. I am wondering if it is unlockable and supports HTC A9 ROMs? is anyone using it?
https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/telstra-signature-premium
syl0n said:
Telstra in Australia have re-branded this phone. I am wondering if it is unlockable and supports HTC A9 ROMs? is anyone using it?
https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/mobiles-on-a-plan/telstra-signature-premium
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Boot into download mode and Run the fastboot command : "fastboot getvar all" or
"fastboot oem getvar all"
Paste results in this thread.
I haven't bought the phone yet. Wanted to ask first before buying.
syl0n said:
I haven't bought the phone yet. Wanted to ask first before buying.
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Can you go into the store? Look at the bottom of the phone and tell us what the model no. Is.
The_scam said:
Can you go into the store? Look at the bottom of the phone and tell us what the model no. Is.
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77HD2500-06M Rev A.
Band support looks same as International http://i.imgur.com/wz8DvyD.jpg
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77HD2500-06M Rev A.
Band support looks same as International http://i.imgur.com/wz8DvyD.jpg
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Sorry, as the model is not the same, I would not risk buying a phone which doesn't support the ROM you deserve. Can you get it somewhere else as an a9?
I believe that you can buy it from htc's website. If your looking for installments/monthly payments. They offer PayPal's installment program
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77HD2500-06M Rev A.
Band support looks same as International http://i.imgur.com/wz8DvyD.jpg
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Technically speaking, the phone is considered the HTC One A9s, model 2PQ9100, FCCID NM82PQ9100. The hardware is identical to any other A9 UHL variant.
IF the phone can be can be rooted, I'm pretty certain that you'll be able to s-off with Sunshine and do a full conversion. Maybe @jcase knows more.
CSnowRules said:
Technically speaking, the phone is considered the HTC One A9s, model 2PQ9100, FCCID NM82PQ9100. The hardware is identical to any other A9 UHL variant.
IF the phone can be can be rooted, I'm pretty certain that you'll be able to s-off with Sunshine and do a full conversion. Maybe @jcase knows more.
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Never heard of it, what CPU does it have?
jcase said:
Never heard of it, what CPU does it have?
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MSM8952, it's a rebadged HIA_AERO_UHL.
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MSM8952, it's a rebadged HIA_AERO_UHL.
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yeah if htcdev.com doesnt work, sunshine could do it if root was achieved
CSnowRules said:
MSM8952, it's a rebadged HIA_AERO_UHL.
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yeah if htcdev.com doesnt work, sunshine could do it if root was achieved
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Even if you couldn't flash cm13, it would definitely be able to run Supersu, as it is obviously some variation of hiae, you could flash TWRP.
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Even if you couldn't flash cm13, it would definitely be able to run Supersu, as it is obviously some variation of hiae, you could flash TWRP.
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Here's the catch...
Unlock bootloader>flash TWRP>install SuperSU>use Sunshine to s-off ---the device could then (in theory) be converted to the desired A9 MID/CID, and be like any other non-Sprint A9
OR
(Somehow) get root with locked bootloader>Sunshine bootloader unlock and s-off ---same result
If the bootloader can't be unlocked, and there's no way to root otherwise, then the device will be locked down tight until a root exploit is achieved.
CSnowRules said:
Here's the catch...
Unlock bootloader>flash TWRP>install SuperSU>use Sunshine to s-off ---the device could then (in theory) be converted to the desired A9 MID/CID, and be like any other non-Sprint A9
OR
(Somehow) get root with locked bootloader>Sunshine bootloader unlock and s-off ---same result
If the bootloader can't be unlocked, and there's no way to root otherwise, then the device will be locked down tight until a root exploit is achieved.
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It should still be able to be unlocked, it is solely based off a model number.
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It should still be able to be unlocked, it is solely based off a model number.
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That's true, unless the carrier has prohibited unlocking and/or htcdev doesn't support this carrier branded variant, which is possible. There's just no way to know without additional information.
I wonder if there's a RUU for this device...
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That's true, unless the carrier has prohibited unlocking and/or htcdev doesn't support this carrier branded variant, which is possible. There's just no way to know without additional information.
I wonder if there's a RUU for this device...
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I would go for it, you can always return it if it doesn't work.
I have this device and its rootable also have Oct update too. do not much different from unlock device.
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I have this device and its rootable also have Oct update too. do not much different from unlock device.
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Awesome! That means that a full conversion to unlocked should be possible. Are you going to have the first known converted Signature Premium?
Haha thanks I think. The difference here when I flash recovery and unlock I needed to go to bootloader mode not in download mode. (similar to another device)
My phone full root now. And well function. About conversion? Maybe if this model no longer receiving updated (I mean unlocked device)
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Haha thanks I think. The difference here when I flash recovery and unlock I needed to go to bootloader mode not in download mode. (similar to another device)
My phone full root now. And well function. About conversion? Maybe if this model no longer receiving updated (I mean unlocked device)
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It's pretty strange that fastboot is implemented differently than with the A9. It would be logical for the Telstra to share a similar firmware base.
Do you mind posting the output of fastboot getvar all and cat /proc/emmc? (remove your IMEI of course)
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It's pretty strange that fastboot is implemented differently than with the A9. It would be logical for the Telstra to share a similar firmware base.
Do you mind posting the output of fastboot getvar all and cat /proc/emmc? (remove your IMEI of course)
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Here hope you can help for future dev :fingers-crossed:
can anyone help me.
I have a s22u s908u tmobile locked unpaid. is it possible to flash it to global firmware?
will it remove the carrier restrictions?
does anyone has a tutorial for this problem?
thank you guys and more power.
You can Odin flash "unlocked" firmware, U1 as opposed to U firmware that is.
But it has zero affect on the status of your simlock status.
Also you might find if you go to unlock it that you need to go back to the TMobile firmware to access the app they use to sim unlock it.
What exactly are the restrictions you are trying to circumvent?
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You can Odin flash "unlocked" firmware, U1 as opposed to U firmware that is.
But it has zero affect on the status of your simlock status.
Also you might find if you go to unlock it that you need to go back to the TMobile firmware to access the app they use to sim unlock it.
What exactly are the restrictions you are trying to circumvent?
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I am in the philippines, some one sold me the phone and told me it was unlocked clumsy me didnt check it. cant unlock it via server since it is unpaid and cant return it either. thats why im looking for an alternative way so i can use my simcard here.
Ahh. So yeah. You may want to worry about the simcard situation first and flashing the firmware won't fix that. I know there are paid services out there that will take Paypal and such but I haven't used one in almost ten years so I won't be any help there
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Ahh. So yeah. You may want to worry about the simcard situation first and flashing the firmware won't fix that. I know there are paid services out there that will take Paypal and such but I haven't used one in almost ten years so I won't be any help there
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thanks bud
But if there is still money owed by the person you bought it from there is a chance it will be black listed. You were basically sold a device that he or she didn't own, correct?
butchieboy said:
But if there is still money owed by the person you bought it from there is a chance it will be black listed. You were basically sold a device that he or she didn't own, correct?
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Possibly, im screwed right?
I am in the same boat as u, though was able to get my device (Tmobile) unlocked from 3rd party vendor and using it in India. But am not getting any OTA updates.
What could be the reason and what should be done.
Can i flash an Indian/gobal ROM and get OTA updates. Also will it lock the phone again and/or wipe out the data on the phone.
Any help would be highly appreciated
The moment you put a SIM it will the IMEI flashing won't change this. If you change your IMEI with certain software in the US you can have a visit from the Feds as this is something that terrorist do to spoof IMEIs.