Worth buying Moto G 4.4 ( no updates forced) - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello
My carrier is offering Moto G for around $220 in which they have stated clearly not to update any new version of Android even when notified by the OTA.
They have imported from international markets and I think are doing some sort of hack-cracking-DFS to make it workable.
I saw CM wiki in which they say, "This is a unified build that supports retail (XT1031, XT1032, XT1033 and XT1034) and Google Play Edition (XT1032)" ie. the CDMA variant (XT1031) is being developed by CM since the model is listed.
This means if I flash CM, the restricted stock ROM would get erased and I would get the latest Android from CM or any other ROMs based on CM for that matter.
So my queation is will I be able to do the above? I know I cannot go back to stock since images provided by Moto are carrier restricted and the carrier which I'll be using is not in their list.
Is it worth?
Thanks for your help!

ngr.hd said:
will I be able to do the above? I know I cannot go back to stock since images provided by Moto are carrier restricted and the carrier which I'll be using is not in their list.
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You can unlock you bootloader through the Motorola website, which according to Motorola will invalidate your warranty, then you can flash whatever you like - custom recovery, cyanogenmod, etc.
Alternatively, if you just want the system update your carrier isn't providing, you can flash it yourself by downloading the stock firmware from the usual places (see the FAQs/stickies here), since the bootloader-locked versions will still let you flash motorola-signed images. In theory, you should then get OTAs from Motorola, since it'll be as if you bought a network-unlocked handset direct from the manufacturer.
You could always just dump all your partitions before attempting to update with a stock image, then the worst case scenario is you'd have to invalidate your warranty by unlocking the bootloader in order to stick your carrier's funky hacked firmware back on the device.
Who's your carrier?

Oddfeld said:
Who's your carrier?
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It's Reliance CDMA in India which also supports EVDO.
Please visit this:
http://shop.rcom.co.in/motorola/51-moto-g-.html#/color-black
So I can conclude that latest 4.4.2 is possible only after bootloader unlocking and reflashing the generic image found on sticky and Moto dev, right?
But I'm confused, as to why are they stopping me from updating it?
If I flash Boost Mobile or Verizon firmware provided as stock, will I loose the ability to lock on my carrier?
Is this a generic for CDMA (found on File Factory): ACG_XT1031_4.4.2_KXB20.9-1.10-1.43_CFC_1FF.xml.zip
I know KXB20 is baseband but what are the other parameters, CFC, ACG,etc.?

ngr.hd said:
But I'm confused, as to why are they stopping me from updating it?
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I guess they're trying to avoid supporting this issue: http://www.bgr.in/manufacturers/mot...ard-related-problems-for-some-users-in-india/
It sounds like that's entirely fixable, but just would cause the carrier lots of annoying phonecalls from clueless end users.

better would be you buy [email protected] ₹11999 if your current sim is not CDMA
Oddfeld said:
It sounds like that's entirely fixable, but just would cause the carrier lots of annoying phonecalls from clueless end users.
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Good reason to do such thing

Now offer is there grab it

bhavin192 said:
better would be you buy [email protected] ₹11999 if your current sim is not CDMA
Good reason to do such thing
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That's the big problem, I cannot switch to GSM from CDMA as my current activated plan wouldn't allow it.

Oddfeld said:
I guess they're trying to avoid supporting this issue: http://www.bgr.in/manufacturers/mot...ard-related-problems-for-some-users-in-india/
It sounds like that's entirely fixable, but just would cause the carrier lots of annoying phonecalls from clueless end users.
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Moto G CDMA is simless so you need to map MEID by visiting carrier's physical store.

Some more doubts:
1. Unlocking Bootloader would permanently void my warranty since unique key is provided by Motorola itself, even relocking will not help, right?
2. Can someone suggest me a tried and tested guide for dumping partitions? There are so many to choose from but I wonder what method have Moto G owners used.
3. If I flash ROM, recovery, kernels, etc. do I need to everytime map my MEID from their carrier's physical store?
Buying this beauty is almost final...
Thanks once again!

ngr.hd said:
That's the big problem, I cannot switch to GSM from CDMA as my current activated plan wouldn't allow it.
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To be Honest I would suggest you switch to gsm any post paid with same plan.
Cause this CDMA will always be there to stop you from buying phones like this

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XT1028 (USA VZW PP) Flash to another carrier?

Okay so I bought a used XT1028 on Amazon, and was disappointed that I couldn't root it due to the eternally locked bootloader (thanks to stock 4.4.4).
So I decided to stick with stock until the Lollipop update comes. I talked to Motorola, who told me to contact VZW. I called VZW, and after a few forwards, found out my device is "PIB Locked" which means it needs to be scanned at a Verizon store so it can be activated.
I don't want to do that, nor do I think that'll help.
So after some research, found out that I might need to flash another carrier to be able to get the Lollipop update.
How true is that, and how do I do so? I'm no stranger to flashing a ROM, but a carrier might require some learning.
PCJAndroid said:
Okay so I bought a used XT1028 on Amazon, and was disappointed that I couldn't root it due to the eternally locked bootloader (thanks to stock 4.4.4).
So I decided to stick with stock until the Lollipop update comes. I talked to Motorola, who told me to contact VZW. I called VZW, and after a few forwards, found out my device is "PIB Locked" which means it needs to be scanned at a Verizon store so it can be activated.
I don't want to do that, nor do I think that'll help.
So after some research, found out that I might need to flash another carrier to be able to get the Lollipop update.
How true is that, and how do I do so? I'm no stranger to flashing a ROM, but a carrier might require some learning.
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And again for flashing you need to unlock your bootloader
S0bes said:
And again for flashing you need to unlock your bootloader
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Dang.
PCJAndroid said:
Dang.
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you could possibly downgrade the to 4.3 then root but don't downgrade the bootloader. also you must use official motorola signed software. some had success others were pissed.

I like to think this would be simple. Perhaps you can help?

Here's what I got. ATT LG G3 running stock Marshmallow D85030p with what I presume is the newest security patch (June 2016)
At this point it's not on a carrier but it's locked by ATT. They kept my number as well.. A number that was mine from previous carriers.
Will I be able to root, install TWRP, and unlock this device to use on a prepaid carrier? Keep in mind this same phone has been flashed, rooted and ran recovery mods and ROMs before. Still in perfect working condition after receiving it's last stock OTA.
jlgarr86 said:
Here's what I got. ATT LG G3 running stock Marshmallow D85030p with what I presume is the newest security patch (June 2016)
At this point it's not on a carrier but it's locked by ATT. They kept my number as well.. A number that was mine from previous carriers.
Will I be able to root, install TWRP, and unlock this device to use on a prepaid carrier? Keep in mind this same phone has been flashed, rooted and ran recovery mods and ROMs before. Still in perfect working condition after receiving it's last stock OTA.
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First of all what do you mean they kept your number? Did you cancel? Unpaid bill? That would be a deciding factor on how to go about things.
But no root cannot unlock your device
1. If you left AT&T in good standing AT&T will unlock the device for free. Even if you don't have any account.
2. If not then you can get it unlocked for a few dollars from some eBay sellers.
3. What prepaid carrier? If Any provider that runs on AT&Ts network you don't have to get it unlocked, it will work fine with Go Phone, Cricket , H2O and many others that run on AT&Ts network.
But a note if it's no longer on AT&T due to unpaid bill, or on bad terms remember the device may no longer work on any GSM carrier within the USA due to AT&T will blacklist it.
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hyelton said:
First of all what do you mean they kept your number? Did you cancel? Unpaid bill? That would be a deciding factor on how to go about things.
But no root cannot unlock your device
1. If you left AT&T in good standing AT&T will unlock the device for free. Even if you don't have any account.
2. If not then you can get it unlocked for a few dollars from some eBay sellers.
3. What prepaid carrier? If Any provider that runs on AT&Ts network you don't have to get it unlocked, it will work fine with Go Phone, Cricket , H2O and many others that run on AT&Ts network.
But a note if it's no longer on AT&T due to unpaid bill, or on bad terms remember the device may no longer work on any GSM carrier within the USA due to AT&T will blacklist it.
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I understand root alone won't unlock it. With all that being said can I still root and flash a recovery method that are permanent? Does MM still not have a reliable root or recovery method?
jlgarr86 said:
I understand root alone won't unlock it. With all that being said can I still root and flash a recovery method that are permanent? Does MM still not have a reliable root or recovery method?
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You would need to downgrade to KitKat to do that. But remember once you downgrade you'll no longer be able to go back to any official firmware Past KitKat without an AT&T SIM card of some sort to ota update it.
Also remember if you get an unlock code you need to be running stock D850 firmware or else you won't be able to enter the unlock code.
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hyelton said:
You would need to downgrade to KitKat to do that. But remember once you downgrade you'll no longer be able to go back to any official firmware Past KitKat without an AT&T SIM card of some sort to ota update it.
Also remember if you get an unlock code you need to be running stock D850 firmware or else you won't be able to enter the unlock code.
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Are there any unofficial MM or Lollipop ROMs that are worth looking into? I couldn't care less if it's official honestly. And that last bit you said, you mean if I wanted a phone unlocked I'd have to basically wipe my phone?
jlgarr86 said:
Are there any unofficial MM or Lollipop ROMs that are worth looking into? I couldn't care less if it's official honestly. And that last bit you said, you mean if I wanted a phone unlocked I'd have to basically wipe my phone?
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If you unlock before you leave behind stock then no you don't have to wipe. Once you install any custom ROM, your only option to unlock at that point is to revert back to stock, which means wiping.
aybarrap1 said:
If you unlock before you leave behind stock then no you don't have to wipe. Once you install any custom ROM, your only option to unlock at that point is to revert back to stock, which means wiping.
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Can I unlock it myself?
jlgarr86 said:
Can I unlock it myself?
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Yes you can, if you are on stock. You will need to get the unlock code from AT&T, be on stock firmware, and have an active SIM card from another carrier (I.e. T-Mobile or of it's MVNOs like MetroPCS). Once you have the unlock code, put in the SIM card, turn on the phone, and you will get the prompts for the code you got. Then you're done.

LG G5 Software version H83020i_un

This is an unlocked T-Mobile G5, but why have a special ROM for unlocked phone? I wonder if I flash other ROMs, I could lose the unlock. Anyone have any problem rooting and install twrp?
Conclusion after a month long discussion:
G5 with H83020i_un ROM is NOT factory unlock. Upgrading or downgrading will result in SIM lock to T-Mobile, period.
Once locked, it can only be unlocked by T-Mobile customers via T-Mobile unlocked app. Some has to go thru T-Mobile customer service and request SIM unlock by adding IMEI to their database.
I bought 6 (New to New other) unlocked H830 and 2 has the hacked ROM H83020i_un and 4 were completely locked to T-Mobile. Yes, those stupid sellers on ebay just keep sending lock phones as unlocked phone! Good luck getting a unlocked one.
No, you cannot install TWRP or root this version.
I ended up returning mine.
You shouldn't lose the unlock by flashing another ROM.
A ROM isn't just about 'locked or unlocked'. The ROM is the operating system. While it will still be Android no matter what you do, different ROMs are modified differently to provide additional features, or more control over the settings or just a slightly different user interface.
This has NOTHING to do with the phone being unlocked for use on any GSM network.
For example some people want to be able to control the CPU processor speed on the phone more. Some ROM's give you that control built into the settings and use customer kernels that allow the CPU to run faster than it does running stock. Other people just like a more simple UI that you get on base Android ROM's (rather than some of the overlays LG puts on)
Skipjacks said:
You shouldn't lose the unlock by flashing another ROM.
A ROM isn't just about 'locked or unlocked'. The ROM is the operating system. While it will still be Android no matter what you do, different ROMs are modified differently to provide additional features, or more control over the settings or just a slightly different user interface.
This has NOTHING to do with the phone being unlocked for use on any GSM network.
For example some people want to be able to control the CPU processor speed on the phone more. Some ROM's give you that control built into the settings and use customer kernels that allow the CPU to run faster than it does running stock. Other people just like a more simple UI that you get on base Android ROM's (rather than some of the overlays LG puts on)
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I can't confirm this personally, but @autoprime mentioned on IRC that everyone who tried flashing other KDZs over this specific firmware lost the SIM unlock.
BehindTheMath said:
I can't confirm this personally, but @autoprime mentioned on IRC that everyone who tried flashing other KDZs over this specific firmware lost the SIM unlock.
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So we can't flash this device?
dkyu said:
So we can't flash this device?
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Well, technically you can, but as of now it sounds like you'd lose the SIM unlock.
BehindTheMath said:
Well, technically you can, but as of now it sounds like you'd lose the SIM unlock.
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I don't know when people will understand that it has nothing to do with sim unlock. I have T-Mobile unlocked sim lg g5 and flashed roms, custom and stock both several times and never had any problem with sim lock stuffs. Just install twrp, root, flash custom rom, there will never hurt anything in your phone.
dksoni411 said:
I don't know when people will understand that it has nothing to do with sim unlock. I have T-Mobile unlocked sim lg g5 and flashed roms, custom and stock both several times and never had any problem with sim lock stuffs. Just install twrp, root, flash custom rom, there will never hurt anything in your phone.
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It seems that this is not a regular unlock. When I open the T-Mobile app, it says the phone is still locked, but it works anyway.
dksoni411 said:
I don't know when people will understand that it has nothing to do with sim unlock. I have T-Mobile unlocked sim lg g5 and flashed roms, custom and stock both several times and never had any problem with sim lock stuffs. Just install twrp, root, flash custom rom, there will never hurt anything in your phone.
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I just tried downgrading to 20A and lost the SIM unlock.
BehindTheMath said:
I just tried downgrading to 20A and lost the SIM unlock.
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Did you confirm that by trying the phone with a non T Mobile SIM on a different network? Or did you just let the T Mobile unlocker app tell you it's still locked?
The app isn't the most reliable thing in the world. It's known to say it's not unlocked when it is or that it can't be unlocked when it already is. Etc etc...
Unlocking it manually (through codes, ADB, root, etc....) messes with the unlocker app. But the unlock itself should still be valid.
Skipjacks said:
Did you confirm that by trying the phone with a non T Mobile SIM on a different network? Or did you just let the T Mobile unlocker app tell you it's still locked?
The app isn't the most reliable thing in the world. It's known to say it's not unlocked when it is or that it can't be unlocked when it already is. Etc etc...
Unlocking it manually (through codes, ADB, root, etc....) messes with the unlocker app. But the unlock itself should still be valid.
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I took the active H2o (At&t MVNO) SIM from my current device and tried it in this one. I could not make phone calls or access data, both in stock 20A and Resurrection Remix.
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I took the active H2o (At&t MVNO) SIM from my current device and tried it in this one. I could not make phone calls or access data, both in stock 20A and Resurrection Remix.
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that's sucks.
I wonder if you can actually get an unlock code to unlock the phone now.
dkyu said:
that's sucks.
I wonder if you can actually get an unlock code to unlock the phone now.
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If I'm not mistaken, you can't unlock this phone with an unlock code.
dksoni411 said:
I don't know when people will understand that it has nothing to do with sim unlock. I have T-Mobile unlocked sim lg g5 and flashed roms, custom and stock both several times and never had any problem with sim lock stuffs. Just install twrp, root, flash custom rom, there will never hurt anything in your phone.
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Maybe it is something to the specific phones people are getting from the ebay seller. They are being sold as new yet are not factory sealed and missing the Tmo sim card. People are claiming Android pay doesn't work and the phone isn't rooted. A new out of the box phone shouldn't have that issue. So something isn't necessarily kosher.
Guys, I have the same version (H83020i_un) and it has April security update and T-Mobile has different version #s on their website. I have checked for update, but nothing came up. So I can't get T-Mobile updates?
The software version H83020i_un is apparently not an official ROM released by T Mobile or LG.
There is a lot of speculation on Slickdeals (a website for coupons and stuff where this eBay deal has been discussed quite a bit) that the unlock was done by flashing a modified ROM. If so that would explain why flashing a new ROM loses the unlock.
Additionally people are saying that Android Pay doesn't work on this phone with that software update, presumably because it's not official firmware. I've never used Android Pay so I have no idea if it works or not.
All in all if you have the H83020i_un software and bought the phone 'new' I think you got conned. It's not new and that seems to be unofficial software.
I spent a lot of time, with help from @autoprime, trying to figure out where the unlock is stored. I was able to dump the partitions from 20i_un using the method here. After I downgraded to 20A and flashed TWRP, I flashed back all the 20i_un partitions (besides recovery, cache, and userdata), and it still wasn't unlocked. So I'm baffled as to how the unlock works.
Skipjacks said:
The software version H83020i_un is apparently not an official ROM released by T Mobile or LG.
There is a lot of speculation on Slickdeals (a website for coupons and stuff where this eBay deal has been discussed quite a bit) that the unlock was done by flashing a modified ROM. If so that would explain why flashing a new ROM loses the unlock.
Additionally people are saying that Android Pay doesn't work on this phone with that software update, presumably because it's not official firmware. I've never used Android Pay so I have no idea if it works or not.
All in all if you have the H83020i_un software and bought the phone 'new' I think you got conned. It's not new and that seems to be unofficial software.
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I see. It will be used as a second device, so it is fine. I flashed the phone with stock T-Mobile H83020a, then got few OTA updates. Now my phone has H83020i, but T-Mobile's page(below) shows an "f" version as the latest. So is the H83020i, the latest update or not? Also would be good if anyone with real T-Mobile unit could chime in.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-30673
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I spent a lot of time, with help from @autoprime, trying to figure out where the unlock is stored. I was able to dump the partitions from 20i_un using the method here. After I downgraded to 20A and flashed TWRP, I flashed back all the 20i_un partitions (besides recovery, cache, and userdata), and it still wasn't unlocked. So I'm baffled as to how the unlock works.
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And there is no way to root the phone without downgrading to 20A right?
Charkatak said:
I see. It will be used as a second device, so it is fine. I flashed the phone with stock T-Mobile H83020a, then got few OTA updates. Now my phone has H83020i, but T-Mobile's page(below) shows an "f" version as the latest. So is the H83020i, the latest update or not? Also would be good if anyone with real T-Mobile unit could chime in.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-30673
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Looks like 20i is the latest.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-20i-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3609735
dkyu said:
And there is no way to root the phone without downgrading to 20A right?
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Correct.
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Looks like 20i is the latest.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...ock-h830-20i-rom-flashable-zips-imgs-t3609735
Correct.
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So if 20i is the latest, then it is possible that T-Mobile's variant of the phone could have a different model # than H830...

LG STYLO 5 (LM-Q720CS) flashing ROMs to unlock carrier?

Hello.
I have searched the forums and they say there is no way to unlock the carrier for my model; I'm no expert, but what if I flash the ROM? Is it possible to unlock the carrier like that? So I went to the LG website and they have stock firmware files for flashing, the problem is that there is no exact copy of my model, so I was wondering if it is possible to use other ROMs for flashing my phone, like the only difference is the company carriers, there's LM-Q720MS, Q720MS, Q720TS, Q720VSP, I don't live in the USA so I don't know much about phone carriers; Since I have limited bandwidth I can't download all of them and experiment, does anyone knows if any of those ROM files are able to unlock my phone?
The answer is no this process will bricked your cellphone.
Osmodivs said:
Hello.
I have searched the forums and they say there is no way to unlock the carrier for my model; I'm no expert, but what if I flash the ROM? Is it possible to unlock the carrier like that? So I went to the LG website and they have stock firmware files for flashing, the problem is that there is no exact copy of my model, so I was wondering if it is possible to use other ROMs for flashing my phone, like the only difference is the company carriers, there's LM-Q720MS, Q720MS, Q720TS, Q720VSP, I don't live in the USA so I don't know much about phone carriers; Since I have limited bandwidth I can't download all of them and experiment, does anyone knows if any of those ROM files are able to unlock my phone?
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no, I don't know your answer, I'm on metro PCS, and was able to just request the unlock through the carrier app on my phone, and they did it right away

Possible to Downgrade From Android 11 to 10 on XT2113-2? If so, how?

I have a new XT2113-2 (TM) that is yet to be boot loader unlocked/rooted/etc. I don't want to do that until I am sure. I got this variant of the phone so I could unlock the bootloader, root, TWRP, etc and was afraid the "global" variant -3 might not work with USA 5G. The phone came with Android 11 installed (and has since auto-installed at least one security update). It shows the build as RZKS31.Q3-45-16-3-11 and the baseband ends with Kiev_TMO_CUST. I am using it on ATT (via Red Pocket) since TM service just sucks where I live. And I do get the 5G icon on it now.
But ideally, I want to get this to the original TM Android 10, which I think is shown here as the file XT2113-2_KIEV_TMO_10_QZKS30.Q4-40-95-6_subsidy-TMO_SPR_RSU_QCOM_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip as I hope it will undo some of the "security" crap Google has added to Android with each successive release.
So I need to be sure of the following:
1. Can I downgrade from 11 to 10?
2. Is there some reason to NOT use the firmware mentioned above? Should I use retail US (RETUS) instead? I am not sure the differences (it would be great if that would permit me to use this phone on Red Pocket Verizon but the IMEI now shows as incompatible on Verizon).
3. Must I unlock the boot loader to downgrade? I know I must to do other stuff and I have the unlock code on hand and ready to put it if needed. If I must unlock the boot loader to downgrade, will I have to re-unlock it afterwards? And, if so, will I have to go through the same process of getting a code or will the code I have now work?
4. How do I flash to do the downgrade? I have the Lenovo Rescue/Smart Assistant installed on my PC and was able to download the stock firmware (I assume it matches what is on there now) and stashed it aside. But is there some other tool needed?
5. Once I achieve downgrade, what is the best way to avoid having the thing auto-update to Android 11?
Thanks for your help with these questions.
If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
RETIEF said:
If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
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Thanks for this response. I do have it on ATT (via Red Pocket) now and it does appear to get 5G now. I have not yet unlocked the bootloader, was thinking to do it, but considering that it would cause loss of 5G I think I will not and will just return the phone. Wow!
RETIEF said:
If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
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BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
WARNING: ONLY DO THAT IF YOU ARE REALLY SURE AND DO BE CAREFULLY. I recommend you: do it not.
By downgrading to an older software, the bootloader in many cases can be destroyed, so your phone is completly bricked!
I write this from EXPERIENCE. My amazon fire is completed bricked, when i have flash a older SYSTEM. It can't turn on, no fastboot, no recovery!
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BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
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I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
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I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
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Thanks. Yet another reason to dislike ATT, I guess. Sadly, in my area TM coverage stinks. And this phone will not work on Verizon (unclear why but they reject the IMEI). And getting the Verizon variant will preclude ever rooting the thing. So I really feel trapped!
Likewise
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I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
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I always figured it was this
English Community-Lenovo Community
as my IMEI SV on the Metro/TMO variant is 05 rather than 07. Never tested with a locked bootloader though.
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BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
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Bootloader unlocked Pixels work fine on ATT 5G, don't know about OnePlus.

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