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People running 4.4, what changes have you noticed?

I'm wondering if updating the Droid Maxx and Ultra have given you some of the same features found on Moto Xs running KitKat, such as Moto Skip NFC unlock support, access to updated Motorola apps from the play store, etc.
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Small UI changes. Updated to Droid Zap. Wallpaper no longer shifts when you scroll. Most noticeable or odd the gate. Many more small changes behind the scenes that are not very prominent.
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The NFC unlock with skip was already part of the November update, IIRC.
The differences that I have noticed:
- when you press the home key while using the stock launcher, it always brings you back to the default home screen, even if the last used home screen was another one. It's almost like you pressed home twice. It's a little annoying.
- if you have two apps that can do something, with nothing set as the default (say, two browsers on the system), the first time a browser link is pressed a list of items is shown, allowing yo to choose one and choose a button that says "Just once" or "Always". That's not new, but what is new is that if you select something and say "Just once", that item will be highlighted the next time you have the same choice.
- there is a full-screen mode for apps that support it. The first time you see it it tells you that you can return to normal with a swipe down from the top.
- if you turn on "tap to focus" in the camera app, there is a new focus/white balance control that you can drag to a focus point and then tap anywhere to take the photo and use that as the focus point (and, as I said, to control exposure/white balance.)
- apparently it supports BT LE devices like the Fitbit, and supports tap to pay for Google Wallet (though I use neither of these so cannot confirm for sure.)
- the status bar remains black and the battery status and time are still blue, with the network icons remaining blue for Google connection and gray for no Google authentication, and they also still show network activity (this is unlike the Moto X.) There is a new location status icon that looks like a white Google Maps place point icon. For some reason the network icons look different to me, but they may be the same.
- there is now an unlabeled icon to clear all notifications in the notification shade, and the settings page icon looks a little different. Also, the settings gear icon looks a little different.
- there is a setting to allow you to set the default messaging app.(settings->more [under "wireless & networks"]->default SMS app)
- there is now a settings->printing setting (I don't think that was there in Jellybean) and I have printed from GMail, Hangouts and Chrome.
There really isn't a whole lot that's different or that looks all that different. (I probably missed some things...)

I only ran JB for a day so I don't really know if this is new, but I've noticed many apps now have the annoying 3-dots menu show up all by itself, occupying as much space as if we had a soft-key nav bar.
Very annoying, wish there was a way to get rid of that.

GnatGoSplat said:
I only ran JB for a day so I don't really know if this is new, but I've noticed many apps now have the annoying 3-dots menu show up all by itself, occupying as much space as if we had a soft-key nav bar.
Very annoying, wish there was a way to get rid of that.
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Settings...display...use long press for menu
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Thanks! I never even thought to look there. I'm sooo much happier with it now.

I have an issue where when texting someone and they reply the keyboard disappears. I backup all my stuff and did a factory reset from the recovery menu and it was fine until 2 days ago. I loved JB before this update. The only thing that was better in this update was performance and that's it. There are still a ton of little issues with KitKat vs. JB
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App drawer page navigation

I've been really happy with the S6 and was able to customize most things that were bothering me, except this :
In the app drawer, is there a way to change the way the navigation between pages work and make it like it was on the S5?
On the S5, you could go to a specific page in one click on the bottom "bar", and you could hold you finger on it and slide to scroll quickly through pages.
On the S6, none of those work, clicking a specific page in that bottom bar just goes to the next (or previous) page.
Now that Xposed works, is there something that can fix this?
Thanks!

Oh well.. I guess not.
I thought more people would be annoyed by this change.

Swipe from the bottom notification window

Has there ever been a tweak or mod where you can have your notification window come from the bottom instead of top? Seems it would be a great feature with the additional screen size.

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Has there ever been a tweak or mod where you can have your notification window come from the bottom instead of top? Seems it would be a great feature with the additional screen size.
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Nova launcher can do that with gestures. Or there's a setting in the phone to swipe down on the fingerprint sensor to pull the notification panel down or back up.

What I was meaning is kinda like the control center on the iphone when you swipe up from the bottom of the screen. Just totally move the notification screen to the bottom of the screen once you swipe up.
The furthest you're going to reach your finger is to swipe down from the top for the notification window so why not put it at the bottom being that it's something being used a lot through out the day.
I will say samsung has done a lot for reachability just that one little thing I think would make a huge deal.

hinds90 said:
What I was meaning is kinda like the control center on the iphone when you swipe up from the bottom of the screen. Just totally move the notification screen to the bottom of the screen once you swipe up.
The furthest you're going to reach your finger is to swipe down from the top for the notification window so why not put it at the bottom being that it's something being used a lot through out the day.
I will say samsung has done a lot for reachability just that one little thing I think would make a huge deal.
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Sorry, looks like that feature hasn't been around since ICS.

I'm curious if it's even possible with a custom rom. I always questioned this too. When I had the iPhone 4, I hated switching to iOS 6, but the swipe up from the bottom to access your quick settings was a stroke of genius and got me to actually enjoy it even more after jailbreaking it because you could tweak the odd cosmetics.
iPhone was able to do it through a software update. Why can't Android? What's the limitation and what makes it so limited that no one has been able to accomplish this? Genuine question and interest.
Galaxy S8+ is a phenomenal phone that I think will take quite a bit to outdo it, but the biggest problem with having massive screens is reaching those quick settings. Even with the edge bar, it's still not the same. And the swipe gesture with the fingerprint scanner is neat but that doesn't get you the quick settings a person needs with one hand as well as accessing the notifications.
It would very nice to have that reversed. I have big hands and it's still a pain to always have to use the phone with two hands for those quick things people like to do. Like adjusting brightness, muting, flashlight, Bluetooth etc.
Maybe one day they'll realize people still hold their phones with one hand every now and again and try to tailor that there notification panel accordingly :silly:

hinds90 said:
Has there ever been a tweak or mod where you can have your notification window come from the bottom instead of top? Seems it would be a great feature with the additional screen size.
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It is possible!
It can be done even with an app.
but it can be confusing because of Navigation Buttons at the bottom.
and in this way using this on custom rom can be better >> set nav bars little bit higher and then notification bar below that.......
I think after this idea you will see lots of mods and apps
If I decide to do it I will inform you

I always wanted that swipe down for quick access to controls in ios on Android. Why haven't they implemented that yet? Took them many years to have a "night mode" on Android.

hinds90 said:
Has there ever been a tweak or mod where you can have your notification window come from the bottom instead of top? Seems it would be a great feature with the additional screen size.
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Have never really understood the ergonomics of it. Bottom Status Bar should at least be an Xposed Module!

What is your first impressions on the Official Android 9 Pie?

So its been 7 days since I updated my Galaxy S9 + to the official Android 9 Pie. I am loving it overall. I think moving the UI elements to the bottom was a nice touch, leaning towards one hand operation. I panicked at first seeing all that wasted space but once you scroll down, it returns to normal. Love the Dark mode but not fond of the quick panel icons, no big deal. So far i had notice these bugs or feature omissions:
• No inertia scrolling in recent Apps (no rubber band effect). Scrolling is just one at a time.
• Some animation Jittering and Stuttering in the UI but less frequent now as the OS settled.
• The options when you click the middle of the divider in split screen view is not working/showing up.
• Good lock Apps stopped working except One Hand Operation
• Good Lock One hand operation is miles better IMO than the new gesture system, even better than the stock pie gestures and Apple gestures. Why don't they just bake One hand operation into the system is beyond me. But at least we can hide the nav bar natively now. One hand operation can co-exist with default gestures without affecting each other.
• Finder seems slow in Pie than in Oreo. It doesn't show the most recent search (by showing the app icons) i made and often requires me to tap twice the name of the app then another selection of related things about that app and that is where the icon will appear. Multiple taps instead of one.
• Dolby Atmos for games seems missing
• Swiping down in the homescreen to show notifications Panel needs a long swipe down as oppose to before needs only a small swipe down.
• Gallery - some very high resolution photos are not displayed properly. You can see jagged/rough lines all through out. But when you set the photo into wallpaper, homescreen shows the same photos correctly.
• Samsung Internet - PiP button is gone and couldn't find it anymore even in settings.
• Keyboard - when gestures are on (nav bar is hidden) and keyboard is showing there is a large gap at the bottom as if the nav bar is still there
• Network name overlaps with notification settings in the notifications panel if you have many notifications.

call_of_ktulu25 said:
So its been 7 days since I updated my Galaxy S9 + to the official Android 9 Pie. I am loving it overall. I think moving the UI elements to the bottom was a nice touch, leaning towards one hand operation. I panicked at first seeing all that wasted space but once you scroll down, it returns to normal. Love the Dark mode but not fond of the quick panel icons, no big deal. So far i had notice these bugs or feature omissions:
• No inertia scrolling in recent Apps (no rubber band effect). Scrolling is just one at a time.
• Some animation Jittering and Stuttering in the UI but less frequent now as the OS settled.
• The options when you click the middle of the divider in split screen view is not working/showing up.
• Good lock Apps stopped working except One Hand Operation
• Good Lock One hand operation is miles better IMO than the new gesture system, even better than the stock pie gestures and Apple gestures. Why don't they just bake One hand operation into the system is beyond me. But at least we can hide the nav bar natively now. One hand operation can co-exist with default gestures without affecting each other.
• Finder seems slow in Pie than in Oreo. It doesn't show the most recent search (by showing the app icons) i made and often requires me to tap twice the name of the app then another selection of related things about that app and that is where the icon will appear. Multiple taps instead of one.
• Dolby Atmos for games seems missing
• Swiping down in the homescreen to show notifications Panel needs a long swipe down as oppose to before needs only a small swipe down.
• Gallery - some very high resolution photos are not displayed properly. You can see jagged/rough lines all through out. But when you set the photo into wallpaper, homescreen shows the same photos correctly.
• Samsung Internet - PiP button is gone and couldn't find it anymore even in settings.
• Keyboard - when gestures are on (nav bar is hidden) and keyboard is showing there is a large gap at the bottom as if the nav bar is still there
• Network name overlaps with notification settings in the notifications panel if you have many notifications.
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1. Scrolling between recents doesn't stop at each app in recents on the k list recent C builds.
2. Don't atmos for games was reported as being somewhere different. I don't use it so I'm not sure where.
3. The keyboard gap is intentional. It's too help avoid hitting home when using space bar. If you use swiftkey there is no gap. I got home often when not intending to when using space bar.
4. Nav Gestures are appreciated here. No reason for something new when bar / gestures are fine. It's nice there's another option, but no reason it should be default IMHO.

todd3835 said:
1. Scrolling between recents doesn't stop at each app in recents on the k list recent C builds.
2. Don't atmos for games was reported as being somewhere different. I don't use it so I'm not sure where.
3. The keyboard gap is intentional. It's too help avoid hitting home when using space bar. If you use swiftkey there is no gap. I got home often when not intending to when using space bar.
4. Nav Gestures are appreciated here. No reason for something new when bar / gestures are fine. It's nice there's another option, but no reason it should be default IMHO.
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1. How about in yours? So looks like it was not implemented in the official and not just me.
2. I set atmos to auto so i guess it automatically set it for games, movies, and music, etc. But no option for games only. It is in Sounds and Vibration>Advanced Sound Settings>Sound Quality and Effects
3. Ok
4. Ok to each their own. One Hand Operation + was released since June 2018 along with other Good lock Apps so its not really new. It gives us a taste of the upcoming Pie update. And as it name says, it allows you to use the left and right edges for gestures in one hand. Try to reach the nav bar and do the new default gestures with your thumb with one hand and you'll know what I mean.

call_of_ktulu25 said:
1. How about in yours? So looks like it was not implemented in the official and not just me.
2. I set atmos to auto so i guess it automatically set it for games, movies, and music, etc. But no option for games only. It is in Sounds and Vibration>Advanced Sound Settings>Sound Quality and Effects
3. Ok
4. Ok to each their own. One Hand Operation + was released since June 2018 along with other Good lock Apps so its not really new. It gives us a taste of the upcoming Pie update. And as it name says, it allows you to use the left and right edges for gestures in one hand. Try to reach the nav bar and do the new default gestures with your thumb with one hand and you'll know what I mean.
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1. Yes, in the Z build I used it would stop at each app. I hated it. On CSA3 it works like in oreo.
2. I'm not sure where I read it, but there was something specific about Dolby for gaming mode being hidden off somewhere else. I didn't put much thought into it since I don't game. Could have even been in the pie thread for the 965F.
4. I do occasionally have a problem reaching that one button with my thumb in one handed mode. I've gotten used to it to be honest. The S9+ isn't the biggest device I've owned. The v20 and Nexus 6 were bigger.
That said, I can see the value in more one handed items. Choice is definitely a good thing. I'm just happy with the current implementation.
On the flip side, Samsung (and others) are always out to take more market share. I think they are seeing the error made by Apple. You can't raise prices and force unwanted changes on customers. Sticking with a more established bar / gestures would be the way I'd go. When you try to get new users, you want to give them something fairly familiar.
Just my opinion though.....

Its terrible IMO. Probably the worst implementation of Pie. Samsung went from having the best skin to the worst now.
After Factory Reset
Deal Breakers :-
1:- Recents animation is worse than 200$ phone. When u are inside an app and press or trigger recents menu. It glitches and lags like everytime. Its only smooth when u are in the homescreen.
2:- Device Care Stuck at 95% for a long time before it shows status.
3:- Launcher sometimes lags when scrolling between pages.
4:- Scrolling lag in apps like reddit and playstore. Oreo scrolling was smooth.
Lag is the major issue in pie however IMO the icons are literally the worst now too. Experience Ui icons were 100x better.

It's good. It's fixed my bluetooth latency issue.

Does anyone have problem with Samsung Cloud failing to sync?

_Usama_ said:
Its terrible IMO. Probably the worst implementation of Pie. Samsung went from having the best skin to the worst now.
After Factory Reset
Deal Breakers :-
1:- Recents animation is worse than 200$ phone. When u are inside an app and press or trigger recents menu. It glitches and lags like everytime. Its only smooth when u are in the homescreen.
2:- Device Care Stuck at 95% for a long time before it shows status.
3:- Launcher sometimes lags when scrolling between pages.
4:- Scrolling lag in apps like reddit and playstore. Oreo scrolling was smooth.
Lag is the major issue in pie however IMO the icons are literally the worst now too. Experience Ui icons were 100x better.
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I didn't factory reset, but that was the most annoying the recents scrolling. Animations in almost everywhere were lagging but as the OS settled and after a few reboots, its fluid 98% of the time. But still, i missed oreo due to its fluidity and icons and quick panel icons. No issues with device care.

Plugging in charger sound/volume is annoying. Was better/more subtle on Oreo.

So far so good despite the jitters on my BT phone (Sennheiser 4.50), if I use with wires, no problems at all... of if I use with another BT phone like Anker, no problems too.

djoxie said:
Does anyone have problem with Samsung Cloud failing to sync?
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That happened to me and i had to sign out of my account and back in
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Well... I am thinking of going back to Oreo acually..
1.Hangs, reboots
2.Stock launcher has this huge space underneath icons even with gestures on, same space thing on stock keyboard(using gboard removes it on keyboard)
3.My games dont launch like they did on Oreo
4.Notifications are messed up, constant connect/disconnect on my gear 3, even when turned of they show sometimes.
Maybe Goodlock 2019 will keep me on 9... but atm im very tempted to go back to 8.0 :/

For me, the One UI is great. But I don't like, that they removed the Audio Source in the USB-Settings.

When using DEX Pad the screen of the phone remains on until it times out and turns off. But when clicking on a text input field the screen turns on again. DEX is still missing a lot of functionality like widgets and direct dial shortcuts for example.

Video call audio issues
while onj video call in IMO the audio seems to be broken and blurry sound is heard

I love it aside from game launcher going MIA, thought it was just a beta thing but guess not
Found out it's more AT&T BS

Has anyone noticed the volume is so much quieter now? Looking for solutions. I'm not hard of hearing but I can barely hear my sounds anymore. That is a HUGE deal breaker for me, even tho there are some things I'm liking. Plus good Lock. Used that daily, multiple times a day. Now I have to remember to turn off wifi and turn on Bluetooth and vice versa multiple times a day to keep my battery in check. PITA. But that is negligible to the volume issue.

I´m pleased with OneUI... however, I really hate the fact that I cant turn of adaptive icons in Pie/OneUI. The third party apps get the worst loocking icons ever...

Manneman32 said:
I´m pleased with OneUI... however, I really hate the fact that I cant turn of adaptive icons in Pie/OneUI. The third party apps get the worst loocking icons ever...
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Switched to my paid version of Nova for that reason. Plus now I have double tap to turn off the screen. Missed that feature from LG.

pre4speed said:
Switched to my paid version of Nova for that reason. Plus now I have double tap to turn off the screen. Missed that feature from LG.
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I installed Nova Premium at first, but when I changed icontheme Nova started to randomly change size of the icons. Even if I changed it back two hours later it got a different size. Not all icons, just random ones.

Question Can you move the settings gear in the notification drawer

Hello. I have come from the Samsung One UI to the new Pixel 7 Pro, on the Samsung One UI the settings gear used to be one of the first you saw when you drew down the notification bar, is it possible to have the same on the Pixel 7 pro, cause as now I have to pull down twice to see it and that is pretty annoying.

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not that my suggestion is a solution or anything, as I wish it was easier to get to the Settings as well...
but in case it wasn't known, if you pull the notification down with 2 fingers, it brings it all the way down, so you don't have to pull down twice....
clearly very difficult to do this one-handed, so obviously not really a solution...but more of a workaround until OP or someone finds a satisfactory solution...
just wanted to mention this little bit for general knowledge spreading...

Can't move it, but other than the above mentioned workaround, you can do other things like put a Settings icon on your home screen, or using a custom launcher like Nova, designate a gesture to open Settings such as two finger rotation clockwise.
Matter of fact, I might designate that right now.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Can't move it, but other than the above mentioned workaround, you can do other things like put a Settings icon on your home screen, or using a custom launcher like Nova, designate a gesture to open Settings such as two finger rotation clockwise.
Matter of fact, I might designate that right now.
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YEa I am using nova launcher, so will see, but stupid that they did it that way google.

thomashacked said:
YEa I am using nova launcher, so will see, but stupid that they did it that way google.
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At first I didn't like it either but think of it this way... you have one hand available, you swipe down twice with your thumb, and with one hand you can now reach the settings button. If it was at the top you probably would not be able to reach it with one hand unless you have Pro basketball size hands with llllooooooonnnnnnnggggggggg fingers!

I 'walk" the shade down using my index and middle fingers.
Because I use Nova, the default gesture to open app drawer is two-finger swipe down, and I use that often, so my personal workaround is to 'walk' the shade down with 2 separate fingers in 2 separate swipes, but it's quick. Otherwise, two-finger pull down from the top edge does indeed pull the shade all the way down.
I like Rode Warrior's idea of a two-finger clockwise gesture in Nova though, I'll give that a spin (pun intended?)

Psychlone said:
I like Rode Warrior's idea of a two-finger clockwise gesture in Nova though,
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It's super quick to get into Settings this way, that's for sure.
Psychlone said:
I'll give that a spin (pun intended?)
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I like it!

pull down from the top, right bottom corner is the settings icon.
or put your home screen on 5 rows and put it in there.