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I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?
You can see my opinion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51600010&postcount=65
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I just helped my Dad get a Photon Q because he wanted an android with a keyboard. After looking at the youtube videos I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates. Looking at the threads here I realized that it can be rooted. How difficult is it to root and flash a custom rom? Is there a guide? From looking at reviews, the battery life is short.
I thought of getting one for myself. Is it worth buying from Sprint?
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Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.
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I didn't think that the Photon Q could be rooted, much less have a custom rom put on it because of the new security measures, like KNOX, after the updates.
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KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
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slimbrady said:
I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android.
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
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slimbrady said:
Most of the answers to the questions you've asked will be relative to whoever is answering them...with that in mind I'll give you my 2 cents..
Yes, if you like having a Qwerty keyboard (I don't know if I can live without one after getting used to this one) the Q is still Sprint's best device to meet that need.
Rooting your Q is pretty easy, especially compared to some other phones I've rooted, and once you learn the correct button combos getting into recovery mode, hard resetting the phone, etc all work very quickly. With that being said, there is a steep learning curve starting out so I suggest doing your diligent research as there are already many tuts/guides available for the Q that will help you get root privileges and flash a custom Recovery and then ROM onto your Q.
With the unification of the MOTO_MSM8960(think that's right) we now have even more ROMs available for the Q and I have tried all of them, lol. Battery life is not spectacular but there is a lot you can do to maximize what you have....I rarely need a charge until late in the evening so long as I'm not gaming on the phone the entire day.
As far as I know there are no verified leaks or even rumors of a new Qwerty or slide-out style device set to release any time soon so I would still say this is a good time to purchase one, especially since you can probably get a killer deal on them now.
I'm currently running the latest version of KitKat with a custom ROM even though I think this phone doesn't even have Gingerbread on it when it ships...think mine came with 4.0.2 version of Android. So don't worry too much about getting the latest software onto your phone as it will definitely work with the latest if you go the custom rom route.
Anyway, hope that helps some. If you have any, more-specific, questions please feel free to ask.
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Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?
EpicSaga said:
Thank you greatly. I think I will get one. I am used to rooting the Samsung Epic 4G(with a keyboard). Do you know of a good guide or youtube video to root the Photon Q? Do you also know if using a custom ROM will kick you off 4G or 4G LTE?
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Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)
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KNOX is a Samsung-only affair, mind ya. How easy rooting can be is already said above.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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LOL, 4.0.2 is already ICS!
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me
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yeah, got my sweets mixed up^^
to OP:; youll need to start with unlcoking the bootloader: http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
then heres one for rooting:http://m.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PL1jmJW1iBYG5X90XsFrvrfErMvP87UlxT
if you hit any snags feel free to PM me
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I tried both links, but they didn't take me to any videos. I'm not on my phones browser. Can you post them to view on a PC? Thanks
idimitro said:
Here is the forum for the ROMs and rooting guidelines. If you do not have SIM mod the 4G should work with the custom ROMs (at least the JB ones, no sure for KK)
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Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology. It made his hotspot active. I tested it by signing into his Photon Q's wifi network from from my phone and it worked. I only used it for about 5 minutes then uninstalled the app because he was afraid that Sprint would charge him to use the hotspot. I later called Sprint to check and they said that the hotspot was not active. I wonder if they could catch it and charge him if it was used more frequently.
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Do you know if there is a video/guide for rooting CM11? I downloaded an app from the Play Store on my friends Photon Q called "Portable Wi-Fi hotsptot Free" from Core Technology.
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If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
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If you have CM11 (Android 4.4.x, KitKat), you already have root and built-in WiFi hotspot function. From what I know, the built-in hotspot function in custom ROMs is unlike those in stock ROMs, they aren't tied to carriers. I could be wrong of course, since I'm not even in the US.
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
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Correct, if you are running a custom ROM they don't seem to notice.
I tether via USB and wifi frequently and Sprint has never said anything. I do not have a tethering plan.
I know this thread is old... but I feel its still relevant.
This phone IS WORTH BUYING, especially if you are a die hard QWERTY person like myself. It appears to be the last man standing, riding off into the sunset.
The phone is basically a GS3 processor with a keyboard which is still a great phone. It functions great for work, custom roms, minor gaming, etc.
Since you can pick up a used one from Ebay in good condition for $90 it is becoming a great value as well.
The aftermarket community is still very active since they appear to have a soft spot for a true workhorse slider phone.
Until the "budget slider phones" have specs that meet or exceed the GS3 then this phone is still the best slider money can buy.
In the meantime if you care about new slider phones with max stats as a flagship device then you need to make your voice heard on facebook posts, blog posts, etc from all the mojor carriers like LG, Moto, and Samsung. I personally refuse to buy a phone without a slider and I let them know at every chance I get.
What ever happened to "Droid DOES"? Droid DOES NOT have a keyboard.
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Also you can do one click root and unlock programs, motochopper and motopocalypse. they are very easy. All you have to do is get fastboot onto your computer. there are some shell programs that include fastboot without downloading the entire android SDK
Yes, it's quite simple:
If you're into qwerty sliders, Photon Q is the top Android device ever manufactured in this category.
No matter that it's more than 1.5 year old now, no other/better high-end sliders have been produced since that time.
This device offers official bootloader unlock, so it's as open as Android gets.
The software support for its MSM8960 SoC is still under active development by the SoC manufacturer Qualcomm (published by CAF), so it can be perceived as a modern device even now.
The weakest spot of this device in my eyes is its 1785 mAh battery. But it easily survives one day of my active usage, so I'm fine with it. Just don't forget to put it on charger when you go to sleep .
Hey folks just wanted to say that I really love my V10. But coming from Nexus and some of the other LG series I am going crazy with the lack of "things" to tinker with. I am not exactly a flash-a-holic but I am definitely a tinkerer (if thats a word). I like to flash custom Roms and fool around with xposed and maybe a little mod here or there. It's crazy how this phone still has virtually no developer support or any kind of custom rom scene. (yes I understand why about the locked bootloaders etc etc). It's been so long I almost feel like I'm rusty and probably forgot how.. Haha.
Nevertheless I love it and it's a great phone (although a bit on the heavy side as time goes on). My wife just got the Galaxy S7 and it's so nice and small and bright and waterproof. Does make me think about looking other ways. I dunno. I hope LG doesn't just make this phone like a stepchild to the flagship series. Still barely gettin marshmallow update in other countries and not really anything new with the 2nd screen for any apps or anything. I guess this is borderline off topic but just some musings I've had the last week or so. Later!
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I feel the same way. I have been considering selling this and getting something else.
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If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
DarkestSpawn said:
If you have a version that is rootable, use the many xposed modules out there. I have tweaked mine to be better than what my nexus 5 was. If you have been around long enough as I have, you will have learned that when ROM's are not available that a Root Explorer is a very good friend. I will go in depth
Base things one uses with a unlocked bootloader / Alternatives to a locked bootloader.
Custom Recovery: TWRP (Or W/E you like) / FlashFire (Install zips, make backups)
Custom ROM: CyanogenMod ( Or if Im using a device DHacker is supporting then I would use that to test the **** out of it) / Stock/BloatStock ( Xposed Modules can do almost everything any custom ROM can if not more than what a Custom ROM could do)
Custom Kernel: Dont need one, never needed one. If it was forced via the ROM then it was used. / Plenty of apps to do little things like Overclock or RAM management etc.
It's my belief people new to the Android Platform go for Custom ROMs is to get everything in one place in one ROM build. Hence why Android is beginning to absorb most of the popular things in the modding community to the aosp nexus builds, slowly if I might add.
All in all, research, time, and stock img files are your best friend to learn from trial and error.
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Totally agree, I dont miss the phone dying on me once in a while, having to flash an "old" backup, loosing some data... And with xPosed this phone is as customisable as I ever needed :good:
I am the same ..im bored of this phone
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faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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Ppl like you will never understand what he talking about
Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.
faearai01 said:
Explain it to me. Explain it for people like me.
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I said you will never understand ..so even if i did explain it you won't understand its something like drugs
But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.
faeArai said:
But I'm willing to understand. So give me a hint and maybe it turns into a TIL.
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The need to be able to make a change to how the phone operates, and see that change in action.
And then change it again. Ownership of the device, playing with the experience of using the phone.
Getting to touch, swish, swipe, scroll - interact with the device (you never been in bed and gone endlessly through your settings menu, again and again; into all the options, all the possibilities? It's not really for the 'settings', you already know what you want really...It's to swish and swipe, especially if the phone is high end, the screen is beautiful and the actions like silk) until you fall asleep cradling it lovingly in your hand under the pillow and waking with it stuck to your cheek?
A sense of learning
A sense of making technology do what You want - of being able to effect change.
To. Develop. Perhaps.
To use the phone.
To discover and distribute something to others..
TO TWEAK BATTERY LIFE. (Heh)
To be part of a community doing the same.
This is my second LG phone, and absolutely latest one.
Whay?
Because of soooo pore support and update.
Update is nothing.
Im coming from LG G4, REALLY what's improvement in LG V10? nothing + poor update support.
At all i NEVER buy a LG phone and NEVER suggest any LG mobile phone for anyone.
Talk about 1st world problems ?
faearai01 said:
I don't understand you. You got the phone for a reason. And that reason still is valid. There are always newer phones available the moment you buy something.
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So what are you going to buy now?
I've a v10 and will stay with it for at least one year. Since MM is being rolled-out, I'm pretty fine. I also had and still have several nexus devices and was disappointed by the quality of hardware.
There is a lot more to do on the V10 than my previous Nexus 6. I don't think I understand...
I don't get that guys here saying that they are moving to an other phone. Just do it. But noone cares which phone you have and why you're moving on. It seems like those guys still are not sure and just want other to ask them to stay. I don't care. Have fun with your next phone - until you get it and and complain and buy an other one. And so on and so on. There is an other root cause of your frustration and I'm pretty sure it's not the phone ?
This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK
incidentflux said:
This thread is not serving any productive purpose.
Meanwhile people are raving about the LG V10...
LG V10 & V10 Dual Sim - Reviews Collection
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHjPU6VGWk-5PiT76ejWAUamHYxWaeDK
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The best phone around by far :good:
Only one feature missing imo: IP68.
Should have stayed with my nexus 6. The second screen is a crappie gimmick. Gonna try and stick with this phone until the note comes out.
Edit now that the first part is out of the way, Please scroll down to the bottom for another question, Just trying to keep everything orgainized if possible. Hope This doesn't go in q & a.
Hey fellows, I just bought a s5 and can return it within two days for a full refund. Cost me 140 plus tax, used in great condition no scratches at all on the screen, and got a nice case with it. Was going to order an LG G3 since I'd been doing a bunch of research on it, but came around this and figured I'd give it a whirl. I did a little research on xda while in the store before buying it.
Now that I've been home and reading and reading and reading, I've got it rooted using the lollipop root thread which requires you to use odin. No biggie there but the LP safestrap wouldn't install. And after root I can't install apps from the play store anymore. Error 494 or something like that sorry I'm not more specific.
Right now it has the latest and greatest OTA B1B? I can't remember all four off hand. Some thread I've read have suggested that it is possible to install safestrap and then install rom's but I'm unclear if I have to downgrade though odin flash a different kernel or what. I'm kinda afraid to do too much too it without making a backup because I'd need to get it back to stock before I return it if I do.
I guess my questions are, will I be able to install alliance rom? I don't believe so since it's on a different base. Will I be able to do anything to it other than root? It's not a bad device by all means, but If development is dying, and it's locked down so tight I couldn't squeeze a hair in there, I see no reason to keep it. Again, i've been cramming all evening on all threads, and some say it's possible to get safestrap for lp on there with root, to install TW roms. I know I'll never be able to get AOSP stuff on there regardless.
I could probably get by with just root and debloating. But The alliance rom has some nice themeing options that I'd like.
If you guys were me and please be honest, would you keep it and try to get it to work, or just return it for a refund? I had an s3 but never took any OTA's so I could install roms until my eyes turned blue even though development was slowing on it when mine broke down..
Also do you guys have any idea why the play store isn't working anymore? I'm tempted to factory reset now probably losing root in the process, just to try to get my play store working again.
Any and all thoughts will be appreciated. Again I've studied almost all the faq type all in one general help threads and I've never dealt with safe strap before but at this point I can't even install that. The apk installs but clicking install with root access does nothing.
thanks for any input provided.
griz
Well Looks like I've got safestrap installed with the bok3 kernel although the device came with the BPB1 kernel / firmware. So does this mean that I can only install roms now that are lollipop with bok3 as their kernel? And would you still return the device to order a G3 which has better specs and more ongoing development?
Depends. Download "eMMC Brickbug Check" from the play store and post a screenshot of it.
Honestly, having played a lot with various ROMS on this phones, I can say that my fav is the current stock MM. Fast, great performance and battery life, and hopefully, we will get root eventually. In the mean time, Iam not really missing it.
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Thanks for the input the emmc check said the brick bug wasn't present. I've got to have root so mm is not an option. I need root for things like tibu and to set enforce =0 for selinux to use my old game pad which isn't 100% necessary but nice when I want to use it. This stock rom seems to drink battery life. Do you think I could install alliance or another debloaTed rom?
griz.droidx said:
Thanks for the input the emmc check said the brick bug wasn't present. I've got to have root so mm is not an option. I need root for things like tibu and to set enforce =0 for selinux to use my old game pad which isn't 100% necessary but nice when I want to use it. This stock rom seems to drink battery life. Do you think I could install alliance or another debloaTed rom?
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B1B is not a build, so you should check that. All lollipop builds can be rooted, and in certain situations marshmallow can be downgraded. Especially if you can unlock the bootloader. You should really check the development thread before you just give up on the device.
Please I don't wish to start a war, just a informative Pro and Con.
Nandr0idC0nsumer thanks for the tip on that App, I ran it iniitally but didn't do the entire scan. I'm doing that as I type this. (It finished and read test passed 132s 14.7GB 114.5MB/s Under emmc chip it reads:
Type MAG2GC
Date 05/98
CID a very long string.
FwRev:00x0
Brick Bug NO. Same Chip
I was hoping this would test to see if I could make it a dev edition but I'll read more on that later.
Now, Even though this isn't the device I initially wanted, I found it in mint condition and with it and the case (Bulky but I weed eat, mow, and stuff, a Lunatik Tatik Extreme that I've read good reviews on every though it's bulky but it's red so I don't have to see the gold, and from what I've read protects well and looks Heavy Duty) and transfer of my Selectel service only paid around 160 after tax. I ended up with a gold colored model, with stock lollipop,
The baseband now says BOK3 but had something Newer BPB1 the first night I got it, I read and read and then read some more as I'm new to safestrap but not to Sammy having had an S3, nor to flashing as I've also owned a DX and DX2(bought used mainly for the sdcard at the time for 20 bucks and to use as a wifi remote)
My questions are as follows. One person above musiclover7 said he's perfectly satisfied with MM non-rooted, I assume an OTA maybe?
I rooted using the odin lollipop method, then installed Alliance Rom to start with as it seemed compatible, and I like the customization ability. I prefer AOSP for just this reason and this was why I was leary about getting this device, the locked bootloader. I've read a little about a lot of rom's available, Although Alliance is highly customizable in the looks dept, and I used the extreme Debloat scropt/zip when flashing all those options are a bit much and it can take time to get the look just right especially with the Black glass mod/zip which I remember from Alliance for the S3, on the old S3 I only ran TW occasionally, mailnly running SLIM, then Nameless, then AICP at the very end. because I'm a sucker for the T-mo theme engine. Aesthetics are very important to me.
One question is with the note roms's and S6/7 ported roms why do I need S-pen when I don't have a note? Why do I need the edge stuff built in when the device isn't an edge? What can that do? I know I have a lot more reading to do but I just want to get a general concensus on what people are running and why, if you are only on TW roms? I haven't seen any themes available in the theme section and I can't stand all the white in settings and such on a stock rom. Nor can I stand the Sammy/VZW bloat. I'm looking at Phoenix which is based on a phone rom with edge support? Am I missing something here? And with the note rom's why would I need the S-pen which I may not have to install if it's aroma based or just freeze/delete it after installation. I have xposed installed because I prefer the net stats app to any other net stat's app out there. I know Wanam is available and gravity for stock roms. I also recall using a module that let me use T-Mo themes on rom's, but I believe the roms I used that on was an AOSP based rom that didn't have T-MO or Layers Implemented yet, like slim around the KK/LP era if memory serves me and it may not.
SO What roms are you using and why? Again, I know people hate threads like this I have no intention of starting a war of roms. It'd be better if I did have the unlocked BL edition or could make it so but I've not got that far yet. Please do not hate on other peoples work. We're all in this together, and most work borrows from others work anyway. And what I've loved about Andy from the DX days is that one size doesn't fit all. We had Bur based roms, CM7 (with most all stock features added eventually), and WizardOO's awesome MIUI builds. And WIz's awesome preboot menu that let one choose a governor and overclock and such without the need for an app. That was an awesome tool back in the day. I'll never forget Wizard00's work on that nor the work done by the main CM7 dev, and those two did help one another figure things out like getting HDMI working.
Anyway, sorry for the rants, and so many questions, I know it'll be impossible to answer all, but I'll edit the Title and Tags to hopefully help other users in the future.
Thanks for reading my TLDR post. Those who know me know I tend to go into way too much detail, and sometimes not the details needed.
Thanks again, I look forward to hearing what you guys have to say.
griz
griz.droidx said:
Nandr0idC0nsumer thanks for the tip on that App, I ran it iniitally but didn't do the entire scan. I'm doing that as I type this. (It finished and read test passed 132s 14.7GB 114.5MB/s Under emmc chip it reads:
Type MAG2GC
Date 05/98
CID a very long string.
FwRev:00x0
Brick Bug NO. Same Chip
I was hoping this would test to see if I could make it a dev edition but I'll read more on that later.
Now, Even though this isn't the device I initially wanted, I found it in mint condition and with it and the case (Bulky but I weed eat, mow, and stuff, a Lunatik Tatik Extreme that I've read good reviews on every though it's bulky but it's red so I don't have to see the gold, and from what I've read protects well and looks Heavy Duty) and transfer of my Selectel service only paid around 160 after tax. I ended up with a gold colored model, with stock lollipop,
The baseband now says BOK3 but had something Newer BPB1 the first night I got it, I read and read and then read some more as I'm new to safestrap but not to Sammy having had an S3, nor to flashing as I've also owned a DX and DX2(bought used mainly for the sdcard at the time for 20 bucks and to use as a wifi remote)
My questions are as follows. One person above musiclover7 said he's perfectly satisfied with MM non-rooted, I assume an OTA maybe?
I rooted using the odin lollipop method, then installed Alliance Rom to start with as it seemed compatible, and I like the customization ability. I prefer AOSP for just this reason and this was why I was leary about getting this device, the locked bootloader. I've read a little about a lot of rom's available, Although Alliance is highly customizable in the looks dept, and I used the extreme Debloat scropt/zip when flashing all those options are a bit much and it can take time to get the look just right especially with the Black glass mod/zip which I remember from Alliance for the S3, on the old S3 I only ran TW occasionally, mailnly running SLIM, then Nameless, then AICP at the very end. because I'm a sucker for the T-mo theme engine. Aesthetics are very important to me.
One question is with the note roms's and S6/7 ported roms why do I need S-pen when I don't have a note? Why do I need the edge stuff built in when the device isn't an edge? What can that do? I know I have a lot more reading to do but I just want to get a general concensus on what people are running and why, if you are only on TW roms? I haven't seen any themes available in the theme section and I can't stand all the white in settings and such on a stock rom. Nor can I stand the Sammy/VZW bloat. I'm looking at Phoenix which is based on a phone rom with edge support? Am I missing something here? And with the note rom's why would I need the S-pen which I may not have to install if it's aroma based or just freeze/delete it after installation. I have xposed installed because I prefer the net stats app to any other net stat's app out there. I know Wanam is available and gravity for stock roms. I also recall using a module that let me use T-Mo themes on rom's, but I believe the roms I used that on was an AOSP based rom that didn't have T-MO or Layers Implemented yet, like slim around the KK/LP era if memory serves me and it may not.
SO What roms are you using and why? Again, I know people hate threads like this I have no intention of starting a war of roms. It'd be better if I did have the unlocked BL edition or could make it so but I've not got that far yet. Please do not hate on other peoples work. We're all in this together, and most work borrows from others work anyway. And what I've loved about Andy from the DX days is that one size doesn't fit all. We had Bur based roms, CM7 (with most all stock features added eventually), and WizardOO's awesome MIUI builds. And WIz's awesome preboot menu that let one choose a governor and overclock and such without the need for an app. That was an awesome tool back in the day. I'll never forget Wizard00's work on that nor the work done by the main CM7 dev, and those two did help one another figure things out like getting HDMI working.
Anyway, sorry for the rants, and so many questions, I know it'll be impossible to answer all, but I'll edit the Title and Tags to hopefully help other users in the future.
Thanks for reading my TLDR post. Those who know me know I tend to go into way too much detail, and sometimes not the details needed.
Thanks again, I look forward to hearing what you guys have to say.
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Will read the whole thing tomarrow, but what's the first 2 numbers of your CID?
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Will read the whole thing tomarrow, but what's the first 2 numbers of your CID?
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I agree with Nandr0idC0nsumer. You didn't specify what the eMMC Brickbug check read. I'm showing the first 2 numbers needed but if you've read majority of these forums, you'd know what it means...lol
it'd mean I'd hit the jack pot but I figured that'd be mighty sliim.. LOL... But I'm going to give it another whirl. I haven't read everything, but most of the faq's and all-in-one threads. Then the root for lollipop thread along with safestrap, because I was completely new to safestrap, but I could have been wasting my time with safestrap, I certainly hope the hell that I am that would be so awesome, the best news for me since...... I can't remember when the last time I was so lucky.
I can't be this lucky.. Got some reading to do... I should've listened.........
I should have followed through with the posts from you guys but I honestly didn't think I'd be that luck.y... Didn't think I'd have that kind of karma... In the Morning Ladies and Gentlemen and dudes named ben. Thanks guys for hitting me in the mouth...
HOLY bat crap bat man.. Does this mean what I think it does.. I hope so.. I think I've got a new thread to read..
This is for users with 15' Sasmung eMMC's not users with 11 Toshiba eMMC's. You can check this by reading the file
/sys/block/mmcblk0/device/cid
Just the first 2 15xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or 11xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx(my number of x's are random, just read the first 2)
We still are unsure if changing the CID causes app store, verification, activation, provision, or other issues, everything you do is at your own risk!
REACTIVATION LOCK MUST BE TURNED OFF. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED
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I figured that would be few and far between, I hope I can magically transform my phone into a dev model.... I'm assuming that'd be as good as having my old S3 without taking that bad OTA... OMG.. I'm hoping this is good news. I'm off to read the post.. I gotta work in the morning but now... Wow..... It's like a natural high if it means what I think it does. I hoonestly figured that would be like finding a needle in a haystack and my luck is never that good.. But I'm not going to count my chickens before they hatch...
Ohh attached below is the screenshot...
I'm not one for emoji's but...
Just hope I dont screw something up trying to make a dev edition out of my device... ....
I blocked out the last number as in the example above, I don't know why that's important but since the other poster did, I figure I'd better too. Monkey see Monkey doo.
PS Sorry for the mess.. as Han would say.. yeah.. I'm that old..
@griz.droidx Flash stock PB1, then root it, then unlock the bootloader! You have, by chance and luck alone, bought an S5 with the ability to unlock it
Yes you can flash Cyanogenmod. Yes you can flash MM and root it. Basically do whatever you feel like
Question is stock PB1 a stock MM build? I'll do some reading to find out, but I have a nandroid of my BPB8 lollipop rom that's already rooted From reading the unlocking thread, and maybe I missed something I just install the APK and bam I'm unlocked. I'm guessing that once I'm unlocked, and rooted, I need to find myself a TWRP for the device. I thought I could just un-install safe strap from Alliance, Unlock and then flash a recovery.
I figured I was lucky in getting one that can be unlocked or made into a dev edition. I'm never that lucky. But on the unlucky, it appears that I have to now flash roms from the unified thread. And from what I've been able to pick up in an hour or so last night and a little at work today, I'd be best to flash only rom's for Verizon specifically. I don't know exactly to to make the others work with a Verizon MVNO but I'm certain that the VZW one's will because on the S3 I could flash any VZW rom and my MVNO (Selectel) worked. I'm hoping to find a build of AICP since that's what I was using with my S3 before it bit the dust. But flashing fever usually hits and I'm sure I'll try others.
Still doesn't look like there's much development going on for the unlocked builds. But at least I can cruise around on AOSP if I want. But the Extreme Debloat of alliance has been doing pretty good already even without my usually tweaking using autostarts and AFWALL, I do miss the privacy manager most of all from AOSP. I just think that is easier to use than the AP OPS version that's included in Alliance.
Is your phone unlocked? if so What rom are you running, and which ones have you ttied?
Lastly, I want to thank everyone for all their assistance in this thread so far. And for those of you who aren't unlocked, I'd still be interested in knowing which TW rom's you're using and stuff like that. I like aesthetics, and don't like the stock TW look of white everywhere, and I've read that with OLED or OMLED or whatever theyre called, the more black there is the easier it is on the battery. Probably doesn't make a huge difference but every little bit helps.
You can run ROM's from the Android Development thread and Unified thread
The question is unless they're for vzw on particular will they work with my my mvno. I hope so. . But I don't think they will without. Changing apns. Or may not have the proper frequencies enabled for vzw
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Oh, that i wouldn't know. Maybe someone will come across this and have an answer for you
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The question is unless they're for vzw on particular will they work with my my mvno. I hope so. . But I don't think they will without. Changing apns. Or may not have the proper frequencies enabled for vzw
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Flash PB1 from SamMobile (PB1 is stock 5.0 Lollipop rom) and then root, unlock, and flash TWRP.
To simplify, tell me the ROM you want to flash and I'll tell you if it's compatible if you'd like.
EDIT: Yes roms have to be Verizon-compatible. And no changing apns will not help
Thanks for offering to check. . I've found that aicp. Resurrection remix. CM and Phoenix have versions for vzw. . Thanks for offering to check for me. . Thanks for simplifying the unlock and add aosp roms instructions. . I've read and re-read them. . A couple things I'm worried about ate what hardware features may no longer work like the fingerprint reader at least in the one kernel I found. Even unlocked and thrilled as I am I want to make sure as much of it works as possible with aosp. And I don't want to take a performance hit but doubt that'll happen. . Even when the numbers have said I did take a hit in the past three seat of the pants feel said otherwise. . Thanks again to you and everyone else who have replied. . Im still wondering which tw roms people prefer. . Alliance with extreme debloat has did better than I expected. .
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You'll have to make your best judgement. Users install the ROM's and use them as a DD to suit their likings and what they like for a ROM. You'll just have to read the OP of the said ROM and see for yourself....Good luck and HAPPY ROM'n
Hey fellows I am tickled pink that I accidentally ended up with a dev edition. Even though there's not a whole lot of AOSP out there for the VZW version of the s5, I do like me some AOSP. Always have the AOSP ROM bug hit me back with my DX. Having said all that, I was pretty satisfied with the Alliance Rom, and I'd imagine other TW roms have much to offer. I chose Alliance because I'd ran it on the S3 a few times especially when I needed to compare TW to AOSP. I did not upgrade using the method above but I appreciate all the replies from "Nandr0idC0nsumer" very much. I once thought about installing a MM pre rooted firmware first actually. If I could find just the modem and anything else like that which may help the performance and usability of my MM CM based RR rom, I might consider it. And it shouldn't be as difficult now with the unlocked BL. Although safestrap worked nicely for what it's meant to do.
After reading here and elsewhere about unlocking and installing AOSP, I decided to just run the apk which is option one in the how to unlock post, ran the app it installs, checked in recovery to see that it said developer, then using flashify I installed a TWRP image that I downloaded from somewhere. I think TWRP was just for klte though and not kltevzw specifically, but don't quote me on that. Lastly, I booted straight into twrp using the hardware buttons on a reboot to install the AOSP based rom and GAPPS. Easy Peasy. I'm looking for a kernel now, but since I feel that the fingerprint scanner works much better for me in AOSP, I don't want to get a kernel and mess that up even though I could always back it up first. or just re-install the rom.
Hopefully someone will come across this thread and find it useful. If anyone feels like it I'd still like to hear about those different TW roms, and why we'd want to use one for the note? or need one with the S-pen app? Can the S5 work as well as the note for writing on the screen using the S-Pen stuff?
Thanks again, and have a great weekend. Anyone who has any questions for me feel free to PM me. If I don't reply immediately don't think I'm putting you off I sometimes , many times, forget to check or don't notice that I have new images to read. Although help is better from the forum since you can many more opinions, and that's what it's for anyway.
I just got the note 5 and I'm disappointed in the little support we have here in the sprint thread. With my note 3 and 4 i could install rom for other variants, the note 4 will only require you flash special data fixes and kernels. But for note 5, i don't know what's going on? Am i just being a newbie? Is there a way to install roms for other variants and have it working? Please if there is, share with me pleeassee... If not, we got to make it loud, we need support, maybe a data fix or something, anything that will make us part of the note 5 family. I'm totally not happy about this. Thank you
It's complicated. There's a few people messing with note 7 ports from an international cdma based firmware. GSM ports require more work than anyone honestly has time for.
There's a telegram group you can check out and see what other people are actively trying to do. Maybe you can point the way to porting all the csc/ril/framework stuff to get a data fix going.
https://telegram.me/n7ton920p
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It's complicated. There's a few people messing with note 7 ports from an international cdma based firmware. GSM ports require more work than anyone honestly has time for.
There's a telegram group you can check out and see what other people are actively trying to do. Maybe you can point the way to porting all the csc/ril/framework stuff to get a data fix going.
https://telegram.me/n7ton920p
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Hm thank you bro
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Hm thank you bro
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no prob. These threads pop up and i know the lack of options to people new to this particular variant is frustrating. af. We are lucky to have Moar and I think we still have a kernel...Not sure on the status of development is atm.
If you look at it this way it provides a perfect place to start learning. Like I said before we are an after thought so time to hit the search button and get to reading. Feel free to ask questions in that telegram group. It's just structured around the N7 ports.
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no prob. These threads pop up and i know the lack of options to people new to this particular variant is frustrating. af. We are lucky to have Moar and I think we still have a kernel...Not sure on the status of development is atm.
If you look at it this way it provides a perfect place to start learning. Like I said before we are an after thought so time to hit the search button and get to reading. Feel free to ask questions in that telegram group. It's just structured around the N7 ports.
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All right bro. Peace
I use the USCC R4 version of the note 5 and use Sprint Roms on it. I am able to, only if I use a kernel compatible with my processor (exynos7420)
and my own modem and efs backups from twrp
It has to be a cdma rom as well
I hope this helps in some way...there are currently ZERO custom roms for USCC, so feel blessed
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I use the USCC R4 version of the note 5 and use Sprint Roms on it. I am able to, only if I use a kernel compatible with my processor (exynos7420)
and my own modem and efs backups from twrp
It has to be a cdma rom as well
I hope this helps in some way...there are currently ZERO custom roms for USCC, so feel blessed
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All right bro. I'm not using the sprint variant anymore , couldn't take it anymore so i swapped it for n920c. I'm loving it so far. Aod is here .
kumuyi said:
All right bro. I'm not using the sprint variant anymore , couldn't take it anymore so i swapped it for n920c. I'm loving it so far. Aod is here .
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Dear Kumuyi
could you please help me?
Have you installed an n920c rom on your n920p ?
Thank you in advance for your help
Regards,
Alberto
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Dear Kumuyi
could you please help me?
Have you installed an n920c rom on your n920p ?
Thank you in advance for your help
Regards,
Alberto
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Uhm, none bro , sorry. Sprint variant is a lock down .
kumuyi said:
All right bro. I'm not using the sprint variant anymore , couldn't take it anymore so i swapped it for n920c. I'm loving it so far. Aod is here .
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Uhm, none bro , sorry. Sprint variant is a lock down .
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What do you mean with "lock down"?
If we root the phone we can unlock it. Isn't so?
Thank you
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What do you mean with "lock down"?
If we root the phone we can unlock it. Isn't so?
Thank you
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No not that kinda lockdown. I mean there isn't much support for Sprint. If you scroll up you understand why . If you can get anoda variant,i suggest u do
Now what if we use the phone as a Wi-Fi device no need for cell signal, just Wi-Fi. What options would I have for other?
So far all I have had was bootloops...
This is just my two cents worth but I think tdunham and Im sure a few others with him have given the sprint note 5 an amazing rom with about every kinda way to customize it built right in. But I guess I am not as flash happy as I once was. MOAR has custom kernel and tdunham has all the firmware updates ready to flash with odin. I think MOAR is a rock solid and most stable rom for the note 5. I know you said your disappointed in the little support for the sprint note 5 but I think the support we do have is top notch. like I said, This is just my two cents worth.
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This is just my two cents worth but I think tdunham and Im sure a few others with him have given the sprint note 5 an amazing rom with about every kinda way to customize it built right in. But I guess I am not as flash happy as I once was. MOAR has custom kernel and tdunham has all the firmware updates ready to flash with odin. I think MOAR is a rock solid and most stable rom for the note 5. I know you said your disappointed in the little support for the sprint note 5 but I think the support we do have is top notch. like I said, This is just my two cents worth.
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Amen, bro!!!
I second that thought
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more options the better i miss using cm just for a change from the usual. but as i get order a stable rom with a few extras is all i need.
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FYI. Running a gsm port rom on any Sprint Samsung Note4/5, etc is gonna be a complete headache due to the lack of corect frameworks, smali coding etc in order for it to work on the Sprint network. No amount of "data fixes" will correct the wrong and/or missing Sprint specific cdma code in smali. Period. As was stated here in a previous post, this stuff takes a lot of time. patience and skills to port a rom from a completely different piece of hardware and get it working decently on a different device. More time and effort than most people are willing to commit to. Believe me, i've done it but I'm not eager to do it again. This is like a second full time job.
The reason there is more support for gsm devices is because there is simply more gsm variants than cdma variants. And developers & rom chef's are hit & miss with cdma devices as well as people switching carriers & devices all the time. That and the fact that a device is nearing 2 years old and the development will decrease as time goes by. So you really can't complain with the lack of "support". This stuff requires a ton of time. skills and patience as well as mental aptitude. Not everybody has these attributes and even those who do don't always feel like they are expected to do this stuff for free. Like I said, it's a lot of work porting roms. Building roms native to a specific device is a breeze.
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FYI. Running a gsm port rom on any Sprint Samsung Note4/5, etc is gonna be a complete headache due to the lack of corect frameworks, smali coding etc in order for it to work on the Sprint network. No amount of "data fixes" will correct the wrong and/or missing Sprint specific cdma code in smali. Period. As was stated here in a previous post, this stuff takes a lot of time. patience and skills to port a rom from a completely different piece of hardware and get it working decently on a different device. More time and effort than most people are willing to commit to. Believe me, i've done it but I'm not eager to do it again. This is like a second full time job.
The reason there is more support for gsm devices is because there is simply more gsm variants than cdma variants. And developers & rom chef's are hit & miss with cdma devices as well as people switching carriers & devices all the time. That and the fact that a device is nearing 2 years old and the development will decrease as time goes by. So you really can't complain with the lack of "support". This stuff requires a ton of time. skills and patience as well as mental aptitude. Not everybody has these attributes and even those who do don't always feel like they are expected to do this stuff for free. Like I said, it's a lot of work porting roms. Building roms native to a specific device is a breeze.
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No bruh , i use to run other variants rom on my sprint just fine only had to flash data fixes and that was it. I think there's more to the note 5 , i think it's more complicated.
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Now what if we use the phone as a Wi-Fi device no need for cell signal, just Wi-Fi. What options would I have for other?
So far all I have had was bootloops...
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Bro i booted viper rom v1.3 just fine but didn't get data.....if you want wifi only , that's a go bro
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No bruh , i use to run other variants rom on my sprint just fine only had to flash data fixes and that was it. I think there's more to the note 5 , i think it's more complicated.
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He just told you, it's more complicated, and that a "data fix" isn't going to fix the actual problems. A band aid maybe, at best!
Thanks for all you do tx!
So im using the moar rom and i saw there are like 5 new verisions of the latest firmware. After some reading i found if you download the ota update you can then install it with the flashfire app. But ota doesnt let me even look for an update. So i tried removing root from supersu opition and phone got stuck in bootloop. Then i tried to find the firmware bootloader from the moar list and didnt find it also. So only way i know how to upgrade firmware is download from sammobile, odin, then reroot reflash.
anyways no surprise no 1 can answear, but i understand the majority had the note 4...and would of gotten the note 7 when it was time to upgrade. So there isn't support for note 5, espically how a whole year went by and theres only really 1 rom, that is also outdated now. No offense to moar but i loved using it for so long, but i just realized moar is 5 firmware upgrades behind and its just moar. So what i decided to do is go back to being offcial, untill note 8 comes and support ends for note 5. Thats what ive read on google, if there are firmware upgrades its better to be on stock, once support ends then its better to be on custom rom. So when i do have my new note 8 in hand i can revert to w.e verision moar ends up
Ya i would of never probly got this phone if i new there was such a lack of support for it. When i was doing a little research b4 i got this phone i found alot of different development for the note 5. Didnt realize most of it was for the other versions besides sprint. O well. As for getting ota updates i believe u have to flash back to stock. So odin back to official stock firmware.
It's Samsung in-house processor to blame for not having cm or aosp ROMs to play with and only tw ROMs. there is only so much you can do different on tw to make it your own. Phones everywhere is getting locked down and developers are leaving or getting older a lot of stuff plays into why there not a lot of options but be grateful at least we have something. Try the note 7 ports which are nice or try creating our own ROM to share.
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It's Samsung in-house processor to blame for not having cm or aosp ROMs to play with and only tw ROMs. there is only so much you can do different on tw to make it your own. Phones everywhere is getting locked down and developers are leaving or getting older a lot of stuff plays into why there not a lot of options but be grateful at least we have something. Try the note 7 ports which are nice or try creating our own ROM to share.
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Right Bonez, or they should buy a phone that works on their provider the way they think it should to begin with instead of whining about stuff like this. Like you said, this is probably going to be the last unlocked touchwiz device for u.s. Carriers...
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Right Bonez, or they should buy a phone that works on their provider the way they think it should to begin with instead of whining about stuff like this. Like you said, this is probably going to be the last unlocked touchwiz device for u.s. Carriers...
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Exactly, because of Android Pay, and Samsung Pay, there are valid reasons why you don't want back doors into a device. I think the age of custom roms is coming to a close, I'm sure someone will be able to develop something, but the time investment to do that goes up exponentially the harder they make it to unlock a device.
In all honesty, other than bloat and battery life I have seen no reason to root my current Note 5. I had done it to a previous Note 5 that broke, but didn't see much of a difference in battery life.
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Exactly, because of Android Pay, and Samsung Pay, there are valid reasons why you don't want back doors into a device. I think the age of custom roms is coming to a close, I'm sure someone will be able to develop something, but the time investment to do that goes up exponentially the harder they make it to unlock a device.
In all honesty, other than bloat and battery life I have seen no reason to root my current Note 5. I had done it to a previous Note 5 that broke, but didn't see much of a difference in battery life.
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There will always be custom roms, just not for U.S. based carriers that have the ability to lock the phones down. However, many of the true android phones are still available in unlocked models...
I know that the LG v20 and the Google Pixel are a couple models that will work in the U.S. Getting international unlocked models is tricky because they may not work well with our bands.
Custom roms are about having extra features like free hotspot and lots of other stuff that doesn't come stock. Truthfully, I don't use but a small percentage of features I offer in ours.