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Came today from Play.
It is very odd has a cut out at top left (as if something underneath the glass requires a clear "signal") and a hole cut for the LED to shine through.
All in all a bit strange for £5 for 2.
Does it effect the screen quality in anyway? And does it help with fingerprints? I'm looking to get a new screen protector cos the one I got reduces screen quality by too much. (hint: avoid the forever fitters screen protectors!)
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I just bought one recently and it's still shipping. Hope it won't reduce the screen sensitivity by too much. It's already perfect by default.
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al89nut said:
Came today from Play.
It is very odd has a cut out at top left (as if something underneath the glass requires a clear "signal") and a hole cut for the LED to shine through.
All in all a bit strange for £5 for 2.
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The proximity sensor and the ambient light sensor is to the left of the HTC logo.
Proximity sensor?
al89nut said:
Proximity sensor?
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It's what turns the screen off when you hold the phone to your ear during a phone call, and what turns it back on when you bring the phone back down.
Take my advice. Do NOT buy this screen protector. I have just tried to fit two and failed both times. £5 vanished.
Why?
It is what I'd call a literal fit - in other words there is no margin between the protector and the actual screen. That makes it almost impossible to get right first time - and as you will know, with a screen protector, first time is best. The protector will almost certainly overlap the screen microscopically, riding up at the edge, leaving air pockets you won't be able to get out. Take if off to apply again and hello dust.
It also seems to be much more prone to bubbling than the non HTC one I'd put on before. Wish I'd left it on.
Am considering not bothering since I have an HTC case and it is glass not plastic.
But bloody annoying.
Has no one else noticed the little circle thing in the top left ish of the device??
First time i saw it i thought it was a camera but obviously isn't.
Then thought maybe it used for auto brightness or something like that?
its in the top left, in line with the htc logo, about a cm in from the left.
Have to have the screen off, and look very close.
Read the thread - proximity sensor apparently
al89nut said:
Take my advice. Do NOT buy this screen protector. I have just tried to fit two and failed both times. £5 vanished.
Why?
It is what I'd call a literal fit - in other words there is no margin between the protector and the actual screen. That makes it almost impossible to get right first time - and as you will know, with a screen protector, first time is best. The protector will almost certainly overlap the screen microscopically, riding up at the edge, leaving air pockets you won't be able to get out. Take if off to apply again and hello dust.
It also seems to be much more prone to bubbling than the non HTC one I'd put on before. Wish I'd left it on.
Am considering not bothering since I have an HTC case and it is glass not plastic.
But bloody annoying.
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Exactly my experience too, I couldn't have put it better myself. Waited two months for this POS.
I think the only real solution is trim it on one side very slightly....
Just put mine on today too. Most unimpressed compared to the cheap pack of 6 from Germany. Fingerprint magnet and difficult to clean them off. I had to put the second one on straight away too, due to the fit, but considering putting one of the cheap ones back on!
AVOID.
Exactly so. That's what I've done
Can anyone else press the screen semi hard with one finger and distort the LCD screen too?
I know it is not normal for anyone to be pressing that hard, but I just want to make sure I do not have a defect before my 14 days return window closes.
Thanks
ive done it before and that happens. It seems to have the same effect on all lcd/led screens with a bit of pressure. IMHO totally normal.
qubit76 said:
ive done it before and that happens. It seems to have the same effect on all lcd/led screens with a bit of pressure. IMHO totally normal.
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Thanks for the response. I know LCD screens do that, I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't an issue with the glass flexing and pushing on the LCD screen.
So if yours is doing it, then I'm OK with mine doing it too. It's not like we are going to be pressing that hard anyway.
Thanks!
You do know the L in LCD means liquid? If you press hard on any LCD screen this will happen. you are displacing the liquid under the screen. You aren't hurting anything. It corrects itelf in a matter of seconds.
The xoom has a really thin glass panel, this is most likely the reason you can distort the liquid easily
How this distortion looks? It could help discern what type of LCD Xoom is using. (for example pressing my PVA screen show a dark smudge)
angry birds causes me to do this now and then!
I get white smudges. I thought that Gorilla glass would have less flex.
Does it look like this?
I returned mine, as the first one I have doesn't exhibit this. Yes, if you press if really hard, any LCD would show this, but this is barely a tap. I'm using my Wacom stylus here, but it's the same with just my finger. It's actually worst in person, but you can clearly see it happening on the video. And it's only on the right hand side of the screen also, so it's definitely a defect. On mine anyway.
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I get white smudges. I thought that Gorilla glass would have less flex.
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Actually, if you look it up on youtube, there are some videos showing how tough it is that also show how surprisingly flexible it is. It's pretty impressive stuff.
Visual360 said:
Does it look like this?
I returned mine, as the first one I have doesn't exhibit this. Yes, if you press if really hard, any LCD would show this, but this is barely a tap. I'm using my Wacom stylus here, but it's the same with just my finger. It's actually worst in person, but you can clearly see it happening on the video. And it's only on the right hand side of the screen also, so it's definitely a defect. On mine anyway.
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Yeah...mine is mostly on the right side into the center. Center to the left, it gets really hard to do it.
it's easier on the right side than the left on mine too but i still kinda have to push a bit. if you push in on the back panel on the right side it does it too.
I was just wondering if everyone has the screen rippling issue when u press down on the screen. Also, based on people who have reported this issue, it appears to be a lot more common in white H1X's. Anyone care to share?
I noticed this in the store when initially checking out the phone before buying BUT it only seems to happen on the very edges of the screen and you need to press pretty damn hard to get it to do that. Hasn't actually affected real world usage for me since pressing the screen that hard is never necessary, especially on the outer edges.
Just tested mine out, no matter how hard or where I press I cannot get it to happen even a tiny bit. Apparently it only affects some devices.
You mean the same screen ripple that you see when you press on any LCD display?
I just tried on my phone while it displayed a white image and a black image, and I didn't see anything. But I can do it on my computer and TV. I thought that was typical of LCD displays.
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You mean the same screen ripple that you see when you press on any LCD display?
I just tried on my phone while it displayed a white image and a black image, and I didn't see anything. But I can do it on my computer and TV. I thought that was typical of LCD displays.
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it is, and especially on a phone this thin. I was told an explanation, but I can't remember for the life of me. But I never notice it from day to day use.
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it is, and especially on a phone this thin. I was told an explanation, but I can't remember for the life of me. But I never notice it from day to day use.
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I assumed the ripple was because it's a Liquid Crystal Display.
Regardless, I've never seen it on mine. I have the dark grey one. Maybe some units have a thinner panel?
I actually know why this happens with HOX. Anal Torture & Tyranny told me to call HTC about replacing my phone. Talking with them explained my situation.
Phone where the lower right edge sits higher also causing a light leak, also causes the ripple is due to the battery cable inside the phone not sitting flush in the body. Also, there is a gasket that should be internal in the phone its basically electrical tape. Sometimes it rolls up causing the same problem.
Because of the battery cable not sitting flush it adds pressure behind the screen making the liquid crystal more prone to the ripple due to stress. Instead of flush in concave or convex depending on how you look at it.
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I was just wondering if everyone has the screen rippling issue when u press down on the screen. Also, based on people who have reported this issue, it appears to be a lot more common in white H1X's. Anyone care to share?
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i've seen this on all 4 devices i've had my hands on, and you don't have to press hard at all to get it.
Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal user and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?
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Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal usre and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?
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woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?
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woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?
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No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.
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No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.
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If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.
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If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.
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I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?
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I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?
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well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.
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well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.
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Well, Amazon just replied and they will replace it with the new one, so I have to wait for the new one and later send the old one back. Let's hope that this one's screen ( I still don't like to add the screen protector, as it's kind of ugly) will last longer.
If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector
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If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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I'm 100% sure that I haven't scratched the screen purposely, juts normal, id even say careful using. And if I clean the screen, it's bright and like a new, impossible to detect any damages, also this problematic area is clean and shiny. But when I touch it or spray water etc, it's clearly visible. So choices are:
1) Add screen protector (let someone do it, once I added it to iPhone and the result was terrible).
2) Polish the whole screen, so that this coating is removed.
3) Replace.
4) Ignore.
blockbusta said:
the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector
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Yes, You are right, it's anti-fingerprint oleophobic coating and be warned, seems it's just won't last.
This is bothering me now, is it everything okay here, to install new glass?
Duzzy5 said:
This is bothering me now, is it everything okay here, to install new glass?
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Few words of descriprion would not hurt...
Is that your battery inflated or something else?
Anyway I would not advice you force it since you can damage display...
nedooo said:
Few words of descriprion would not hurt...
Is that your battery inflated or something else?
Anyway I would not advice you force it since you can damage display...
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what bothers me is this spot, i highlighted in photo attached. it is rised and is higherthan the border where glass should sit. so i imagine it will not help adhesive to touch border where glass needs to stick. battery is ok, phone is fully working, bought second hand phone and back glass was changed and peeled off itself, so i suspect this may be the reason?
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what bothers me is this spot, i highlighted in photo attached. it is rised and is higherthan the border where glass should sit. so i imagine it will not help adhesive to touch border where glass needs to stick. battery is ok, phone is fully working, bought second hand phone and back glass was changed and peeled off itself, so i suspect this may be the reason?
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Oh I see. So as I said do not force it, or you will at least have those bright spots on display, you or someone who is more experienced should disassemble that part, there is a flex display connector which goes trough the hole in phone frame mid body from front, and flex goes through it and bends so it could connect from back side. I hope you could understand this description (there are few videos of Z3 disassemble, check them out)...
So redo that part assembly carefully and at the end it should be below frame level in order not to make any pressure to the back glass...
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Oh I see. So as I said do not force it, or you will at least have those bright spots on display, you or someone who is more experienced should disassemble that part, there is a flex display connector which goes trough the hole in phone frame mid body from front, and flex goes through it and bends so it could connect from back side. I hope you could understand this description (there are few videos of Z3 disassemble, check them out)...
So redo that part assembly carefully and at the end it should be below frame level in order not to make any pressure to the back glass...
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So how it looks now, is not okay, it shouldnt be risen like that?
In dissambly video this place looks about the same