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[Q] Internal Storage Space Not Correct?

P1113, JB 4.2.2 Stock Rom, CWM, rooted running and no obvious system problems.
My understanding is that there is supposed to be 4.5 gb or internal storage, or /storage/emulated/0. I have an actual 600mb of items on the internal storage space. I verified this by copying all the files/folders to pc and checking the size. Root Explorer reports same folder size for /data/media.
Settings->Storage indicates that I have 4.5 gb internal storage, 2.5 gb is free and there is 2 gb not accounted for. I should have 4 gb free? I reformatted /sdcard with CWM and still have only about 2.5 gb free and not 4.5.
2.5 gb of usable internal storage seems much to low. Flashing the rom with Odin did not change this problem. On a practical basis, I cannot install a GPS navigation app because it uses >2.5 gb.
What might the problem be? How to fix?

Is your phone storage 4gb or 8gv? As written on the box
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scorpionma said:
Is your phone storage 4gb or 8gv? As written on the box
Sent from my GT-P3100
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The tablet is 8 gb and shows that in the Settings_Storage.
There must be a method or restoring the partitioning to stock, oob, sizes?

The data partition（store user-install apps and app's data） and internal SD partition(store User data like music,video,docs eg.) is ONE partition on Samsung GTab2 Tablets. So the "lost" 2G space which puzzled you are used to store the app and app's data.

king200 said:
P1113, JB 4.2.2 Stock Rom, CWM, rooted running and no obvious system problems.
My understanding is that there is supposed to be 4.5 gb or internal storage, or /storage/emulated/0. I have an actual 600mb of items on the internal storage space. I verified this by copying all the files/folders to pc and checking the size. Root Explorer reports same folder size for /data/media.
Settings->Storage indicates that I have 4.5 gb internal storage, 2.5 gb is free and there is 2 gb not accounted for. I should have 4 gb free? I reformatted /sdcard with CWM and still have only about 2.5 gb free and not 4.5.
2.5 gb of usable internal storage seems much to low. Flashing the rom with Odin did not change this problem. On a practical basis, I cannot install a GPS navigation app because it uses >2.5 gb.
What might the problem be? How to fix?
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Go to the /mnt/shell/emulated to look, you should have the root accounts to get the things or copy it.I hope it is helpful

ytyyutianyun said:
Go to the /mnt/shell/emulated to look, you should have the root accounts to get the things or copy it.I hope it is helpful
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With you and other's help here, I think I understand. The device is 8gb. 2 GB is for the operating system. Two GB is for apps and data. Then 4 gb remain for internal storage.
I would like to swap 4 gb storage with the 32 gb MicroSD card. I have been doing that prior to 4.2.2 running a script that changed mount points. That no longer works. I don't know how to edit fstab file that might work. In the meantime, I'll try to spend more time using the device instead of modifying it!

rebuilding partitions / cm10 / low memory

I am referencing this post to try and get more info from a broader audience if possible
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544702
heres the issue:
I wiped fully my p3113 several times correctly... (data / system / cache / dalvik / etc etc)
installed latest cm10 nightly
i get only 4.59gb onboard ram (see the screenshot in the above link)
apparently the cat who wrote the threat above was able to rebuild the partition to solve this problem... my question is, how does one rebuild the partitions??? which ones need to be rebuilt? can i do it within cwm or do I have to do it within odin?
thanks!!!!!!!!!

First off, don't mix up RAM and internal storage, these are different things! What you are talking about is not RAM. Second, 4.5GB of user-accessible storage is all you get on this tab - it's normal, there is nothing wrong with that! The other thread you are linking to is about a different problem - if you read carefully, you'll see that the OP was only having 500MB available out of 4.5GB. That was the problem he fixed. You have nothing to fix, don't mess with your device.

kt-Froggy said:
First off, don't mix up RAM and internal storage, these are different things! What you are talking about is not RAM. Second, 4.5GB of user-accessible storage is all you get on this tab - it's normal, there is nothing wrong with that! The other thread you are linking to is about a different problem - if you read carefully, you'll see that the OP was only having 500MB available out of 4.5GB. That was the problem he fixed. You have nothing to fix, don't mess with your device.
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thank you brother.... my question then is why when I have the stock rom installed does the memory show up as being 8gb internal and only 4.59 with cm10?
is cm10 actually taking up over 3gb of space? and if this is the case what is the best way to use the ext card as the memory to which I install my apps? there is nothing that I have seen that works with cm10 in the memory swap area.

nycdave said:
thank you brother.... my question then is why when I have the stock rom installed does the memory show up as being 8gb internal and only 4.59 with cm10?
is cm10 actually taking up over 3gb of space? and if this is the case what is the best way to use the ext card as the memory to which I install my apps? there is nothing that I have seen that works with cm10 in the memory swap area.
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I don't know much about CM, but on every version and flavour of stock ROMs that I tried on my tab (and I tried quite a few), I always got around 4.5GB of storage available. Also, this is what I recall reading from the specs somewhere. Frankly, I can't understand just how you would get 8GB reported by the system to be accessible, whether on stock, or any other ROM... On all devices, accessible internal storage is always significantly less than the total - for example, on my phone the accessible storage is only 25GB out of a total of a 32GB.
A couple of screenshots to illustrate my point (stock-based 4.1.2).
BTW, I'd like to ask anyone to provide a screenshot from any ROM on this tablet, showing a larger amount of available storage. Really, I would very much like to see that.

kt-Froggy said:
I don't know much about CM, but on every version and flavour of stock ROMs that I tried on my tab (and I tried quite a few), I always got around 4.5GB of storage available. Also, this is what I recall reading from the specs somewhere. Frankly, I can't understand just how you would get 8GB reported by the system to be accessible, whether on stock, or any other ROM... On all devices, accessible internal storage is always significantly less than the total - for example, on my phone the accessible storage is only 25GB out of a total of a 32GB.
A couple of screenshots to illustrate my point (stock-based 4.1.2).
BTW, I'd like to ask anyone to provide a screenshot from any ROM on this tablet, showing a larger amount of available storage. Really, I would very much like to see that.
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thank you so much for the feedback. what rom are you using and how do you not run out of space for apps? are you not using an apps to sd script or app then?

nycdave said:
thank you so much for the feedback. what rom are you using and how do you not run out of space for apps? are you not using an apps to sd script or app then?
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No problem. The link to the ROM I am currently using is in my signature. How I don't run out of space -- I dunno... I just don't. I am not an app junkie, and I don't install or use any games, so everything works fine for me so far. I am also not using any scripts or apps to swap int/ext SD, or to install apps on ext SD card. The biggest space hogs for me are offline maps (I use Maps With Me and Nav Free) and multimedia (photos, music, videos), and I keep those on my ext SD card.

do you have the 8gb variant or 16gb? also when your running stock rom are you using 4.2.2 jb? if so then thats why it shows up as 8gb. with previous version of the stock firmware it used to show up as split partition 4gb for system and 4gb for internal until samsung offically released 4.2.2 for the GT-p3113

xbahamutzero said:
do you have the 8gb variant or 16gb? also when your running stock rom are you using 4.2.2 jb? if so then thats why it shows up as 8gb. with previous version of the stock firmware it used to show up as split partition 4gb for system and 4gb for internal until samsung offically released 4.2.2 for the GT-p3113
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Damn Samsung bastads. This was driving me insane as I just flashed mine last night and thought at first I F'ed it up, then I was going to blame the OS CM-11 for not reporting the full space. sigh this one little sentence puts me at ease. For that, I thank you :good: :highfive:

8gb internal storage solutions

So I got the Moto G 1gb, 8 gigs of internal storage version.
I love this phone so far and I've pretty much set it up how I'd like it, but the 8gb internal storage has turned into an issue.
I got Appmanager III, moved pretty much everything to my 32 gig external, but I still have only like 600 mb to spare on the internal, with well over half of the external left over.
Is there another app that will allow me to move all the app data left over in the internal over to the external?
If that's not enough, I'd also be interested in knowing if there's any way I can force the system to use the external as the main storage for all the OS functions. I already used adb to set all the default downloads to the external.
Finally, I'd like to know if custom ROMs like cyanogenmod would use up less storage than the stock OS, or at least let me use more of my internal by reducing the amount of bloatware (why can i NOT get rid of google movies or google+??? come ON)
I'm rooted and have installed twrp so both root and custom recovery solutions are welcome. Thanks for your time and help!

If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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bruce7373 said:
If it were me, I'd make a Nandroid with TWRP on the external as well as a backup with Titanium and then use Titanium to delete unwanted bloatware. Wouldn't that help?
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System apps, ie those that come with the phone such as google movies, live in the system partition. If they are updated then the update lives in the internal storage. Uninstalling via titanium will of course free up both system and internal storage space.
However just disabling them will be sufficient, this will remove all updates from internal storage and just leave the apk in the system partition. Its the internal storage that you want to be less full as this is where user apps, pictures etc all reside (assuming you haven't yet moved them to an SD card).
Disabling is less drastic than uninstalling and is maybe the preferred option in case you otherwise uninstall something that breaks your phone.

I've tried that, but for whatever reason if I disable, say, google play movie or whatever, my phone eventually ends up redownloading them? It's really odd and honestly pretty annoying.
I'd still like to know if there's any way to keep all the main app data on the external or something though. Are Cyanogenmod ROMs installers smaller? I don't need THAT much more space to feel comfortable, having 1 gigabyte would be ok with me. I just don't like having like 600 MB free at most...
EDIT: If I can just move the app data for a few games and Google Chrome, that should fix it, too. Those seem to be the real space hogs, so if I can move those I should be able to handle everything else
EDIT EDIT: Would an app like Link2SD work for this phone or has no one tested that yet?

Hi Tazzypilar, Yes Link2Sd wil work wery well. All wat you have to do is to install MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional on your PC, then put your micro SD card in the cardreader on your desktop or laptop to make two partitions on your SdMicro card (card must be class 10). Start program MiniTool Partition Wizzard Professional and look for your microSD card on the list with disks. Right click on your removable disk (micro sd card) and you can resize your first Fat32 partition and make it smaller for at least 2 GB. After that you will have 2 GB unused space behind this Fat32 partition. Now click with right mouse on this unused space and choose „Create“ new partition and make it ext4 file system partition. You will be prompt „Are you sure that you want to make ext4 partiton because Windows can't see it ?“ and answare „Yes“ . So, one partition will be Fat32 and you can make it as big as you like depending on the size of your MicroSd card and second should be at least 2GB (or greater - also may be smaller, it's up to you) ext4 partition and there you will move your apps from the internal phone memory.
That's all, after that you have to install Link2Sd from playstore and link apps you like to move to your SdCard. Succes ! If you have more questions jut ask !
Greetz !
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Where did my storage go?
Just asked my self a very similar questions
I attachment a screen shot
From the 8gb 3,5 go to Android system
So 4,5gb for internal I thought., but no.
I installed about 2gb of apps and 200mb cache.
Ah I forgot to mention that this is a fresh install after factory reset and still I am missing alot of storage see screen shot
Is this normal? I am on stock not rooted with some apps already moved to SD Any ideas?

Upgrade to android M, use external SD as internal card
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.

sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal

Look for posts on link2sd, it needs to be a fast card and then formatted using both std FAT and ext (linux) partitions. Then you can move almost everything.
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Though Im using LG H502F. Correct me if Im wrong but I think thats because the internal storage is emulated. Ive been using Link2SD and it works well. I can link app data and external data to the mounted partition. The only difference I noticed was... When opening the app it takes a couple of second or more compared to the unlinked apps... Anyways. Try to check if your storage is emulated. If it is, then that 3GB available space for a stock rom is as good as it gets. Mine have 8GB rom but the end user is only 3GB something.
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merlin2380 said:
I am glad you brought this up, guess what I am already on M and using the SD card feature, unfortunately I can only a small portion of the apps move to the SD card the rest stays internal
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In android M you can "transform" your sd card in internal memory (in Settings>Storage>SdCard>Definitions). If you have a fast 32 Gb card, you can format it to internal and it is as you have 32 Gb internal memory, but your sdcard must "live" with your phone (can't be used as sdcard in other device).
I think that is what @sandipkc7 means.

I did that not very usefull

merlin2380 said:
I did that not very usefull
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Tried internal storage option in marshmallow and at first i taught it was rubbish, but i kinda left sdcard alone and install another ROM.
So stuff on my internal storage was nowhere to be found. I installed latest recovery (TWRP) Flashed another rom and this is where things started to get interesting.
When i first converted sdcard to use as internal storage my phone was still eating up the internal memory 8GB on the phone.
Now however android system decided to do away with internal 8GB memory and use sdcard as a main storage. my photos are stored there and all data i noticed that almost everything is installed on sdcard now. so my storage is not vanishing away. I have about 1.7GB used on there.
There are some apps that can be moved manually to sdcard storage (converted to internal) - for example some of the system apps and most of google apps stay in phones memory not on sdcard and they can't be moved manually.
So my advise is covert your card to internal memory and then do factory reset or install another ROM.
Option 2 as mentioned above in posts is to use app called Link2SD - it is worth to opt for paid version which gives you more options of what to copy to 2nd partiton of your sdcard.
i have amazon fire 7 (£50 tablet) setup with option 2 - same storage 8GB. It works well. due to lack of marshmallow for this device i cannot use internal sd as an option. I have 2GB used there and rest sits on sdcard. i have installed few resource (storage) hugging apps - 1.2 GB, 2 GB each (gameloft games) - all moved to sd with link2sd app.
on my moto g 2015 i use android build in solution and it works well. You have to keep in mind that with this solution you can't simply copy files to your computer. Sdcard is encrypted at device level and it can only be access via your phone. However you can use any wifi file transfer app to copy some files over or via phones hotspot (i use droid over wifi or web pc suite to name few).
hope this helped a little

sandipkc7 said:
Why not upgrade to android M and use phone's feature to use external card as internal card.
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honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............

marsrolled said:
honestly, its not worth it to use sdcard as internal, despite the micro sd card being fast, it made my phone ridiculously slow..............
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Because of this slow down i did a reset to default settings. This did help and now the phone works much better, just make sure you always have 500MB empty on the internal storage, anything less and tbe phone performance goes down imediatly.
All the talking about this no so vreat sdcardinteral storage feature was too much for my 32 GB samsung evo micro sd card, it died less than 6 months of service. This was already the 2nd from the evo series that hung up on me and let me to dataloss thanks to google drive all was backedup
I will now root the phone and get a custom rom, probaply cm offical

Did you ever find out how to recover that lost 2GB? I have the exact same problem and managed to maybe find the 2GB in the /data folder; however it is sys locked and I'm not ready to root a brand new phone yet.
I have 8 apps installed (not counting google/motorola pre-installed) on my Moto G3 and showing 3.72GB used of 4.53GB available internal. It then shows 1.36 GB used by apps, 1.71 MB by cache. Other 2GB is a mystery?Device storage shows only 16GB used of 37GB availabe due to SD card.

[Completed] Softwinner v11/Astar y3 Broken Internal Storage

Hey everyone,
I bought an offbrand tablet from eBay, model name Softwinner v11 or Aystar y3 (build number says its an Astar y3, so does build.prop , "About tablet" under settings says its a Softwinner v11), running a Quad Core Allwinner A33 CPU and KitKat 4.4.2, already rooted with Kingo Root.
When I bought it, I was told it came with 16 GB of storage. As I started it up, I imediately checked the storage to check if those 16 gb where really there. On the storage screen, under settings, it showed up as having 2 internal storage, one with about 0.98 GB of space and another one with 14 GB of space. Almost the 16 GB, but that wasnt the issue.
The tablet was writing app data to the 0.98 GB internal storage, leaving me almost imediately without storage space for apps. The other 14 GB of space remained completely untouched. After further inspection, I found that the other 14GB were being used as an internal sd card, mounted at /mnt/sdcard.
Now here comes the real issue. I was messing around with it, and remenbered that I could partition my SD Card to work as internal memory. I had done this sucessfully before in my phone, so I gave it a go on the tablet, completely forgetting the fact that I had no MicroSD card on the tablet, only internal memory.
Stupid as I was, I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236566http://
After doing step 1, I realized my mistake. Storage was completely broken. In MiniTool, it was now split between 2 discs, one with a ~10Gb partition called "POLARIS", in fat32, and another with a 2GB partition, which is unallocated.
Now, under Settings - storage, I still have 2 internal storages, except the second storage is now only 428mb and completely inacessible from Windows. DiskInfo only shows System, Data, Cache and RAM, but no internal memory or SD Card.
ES File Manager shows 2 storages, one called "sdcard", with 428.06MB of space and another called "93_81" with 10.38GB of space.
In Windows, via MTP mode, the tablet shows up as v11. If I open it, there is an "Internal Storage", with 426 mb of space. Inside that is a folder called ".android_secure" and another called "93_81". Via USB Mass Storage nothing shows up.
Attempting to copy files over 428 mb to the root or to "93_81" results in a "file is too big" error.
Is there any way to fix this issue? If not, can I return it to how it was, with 1 GB + 14 GB of storage?

Khotor said:
Hey everyone,
I bought an offbrand tablet from eBay, model name Softwinner v11 or Aystar y3 (build number says its an Astar y3, so does build.prop , "About tablet" under settings says its a Softwinner v11), running a Quad Core Allwinner A33 CPU and KitKat 4.4.2, already rooted with Kingo Root.
When I bought it, I was told it came with 16 GB of storage. As I started it up, I imediately checked the storage to check if those 16 gb where really there. On the storage screen, under settings, it showed up as having 2 internal storage, one with about 0.98 GB of space and another one with 14 GB of space. Almost the 16 GB, but that wasnt the issue.
The tablet was writing app data to the 0.98 GB internal storage, leaving me almost imediately without storage space for apps. The other 14 GB of space remained completely untouched. After further inspection, I found that the other 14GB were being used as an internal sd card, mounted at /mnt/sdcard.
Now here comes the real issue. I was messing around with it, and remenbered that I could partition my SD Card to work as internal memory. I had done this sucessfully before in my phone, so I gave it a go on the tablet, completely forgetting the fact that I had no MicroSD card on the tablet, only internal memory.
Stupid as I was, I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2236566http://
After doing step 1, I realized my mistake. Storage was completely broken. In MiniTool, it was now split between 2 discs, one with a ~10Gb partition called "POLARIS", in fat32, and another with a 2GB partition, which is unallocated.
Now, under Settings - storage, I still have 2 internal storages, except the second storage is now only 428mb and completely inacessible from Windows. DiskInfo only shows System, Data, Cache and RAM, but no internal memory or SD Card.
ES File Manager shows 2 storages, one called "sdcard", with 428.06MB of space and another called "93_81" with 10.38GB of space.
In Windows, via MTP mode, the tablet shows up as v11. If I open it, there is an "Internal Storage", with 426 mb of space. Inside that is a folder called ".android_secure" and another called "93_81". Via USB Mass Storage nothing shows up.
Attempting to copy files over 428 mb to the root or to "93_81" results in a "file is too big" error.
Is there any way to fix this issue? If not, can I return it to how it was, with 1 GB + 14 GB of storage?
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merge data and internal sd

I have the infuse which has a16gb ROM with 12gb internal SD and a 2gb data partition and a galaxy s5 with 16gb ROM which has 12gb storage space that is shared between apps and internal SD. I was wondering if there is a way to setup the infuse to work like the s5 does or at least switch the internal 12gb SD card with the 2gb app storage space. I need lots of room for apps and don't ever even use the internal SD card as I have a 32gb external card in the phone so there is like 12 megs total in use on the internal SD while app storage is completely full with hardly any apps installed. Just kind of seems like a waste to me. Thanks in advanced for any help you might be able to give

diablo5189 said:
I have the infuse which has a16gb ROM with 12gb internal SD and a 2gb data partition and a galaxy s5 with 16gb ROM which has 12gb storage space that is shared between apps and internal SD. I was wondering if there is a way to setup the infuse to work like the s5 does or at least switch the internal 12gb SD card with the 2gb app storage space. I need lots of room for apps and don't ever even use the internal SD card as I have a 32gb external card in the phone so there is like 12 megs total in use on the internal SD while app storage is completely full with hardly any apps installed. Just kind of seems like a waste to me. Thanks in advanced for any help you might be able to give
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Not that easy. You would have to re-route (comment out) the line for /data/data in the fstab file on the boot.img ramdisk. If using stock ROM, then you have to make sure all that is signed the way Samsung wants it.
There are some later KK 4.4 ROM's that ignore the datadata partition (my signature has a link that will provide options) but if you have the AT&T model (v.s. Rogers) and still on FY 2.2 or GB 2.3, there does not seem to be an upgrade path anymore (patched bootloader to flash ICS+ is lost).
A simple solution is to get a MicroSD card, split up that MicroSD with a ext2 second partition, and then use Link2SD. Mind you, the apps on the external SD would be slower, but at least you can get more apps that what you could before.
Hope this helps.

I have cyanfox 4.4 kitkat installed on it already. I know there is ways to use external SD as ext4 partition, is there any way to do something like that with internal SD instead.

diablo5189 said:
I have cyanfox 4.4 kitkat installed on it already. I know there is ways to use external SD as ext4 partition, is there any way to do something like that with internal SD instead.
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You may be able to figure out a solution with FolderMount (or one of the other options in the following SII thread):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548834
Alternatively...
I am curious though, how are your wakelocks? Is your Infuse able to fall asleep? This can be determined by going into Settings > Battery > History Details, and checking the blue bar under "Awake". If it spans the width underneath that title (and the screen has been off for a portion of the uptime), then you have a GMS bug, and is common with most 2014 KK ROMs.
Not to sway you particularly - I compiled a build in 2015 that not only abandons /datadata, but also fixes the GMS bug:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61012641&postcount=1060
May be worth it, even if only just looking at the post.