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So if you return your gs4 due to the locked bootloader..

I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?

I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.

I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
BUT
Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:

raqball said:
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.

Thermalwolf said:
Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock

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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "

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wttisme said:
Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol

As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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SysAdmNj said:
Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold

cl_l said:
Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will

SysAdmNj said:
They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.

Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.

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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.

Samsung Confirms Lollipop 5.0 Updates For Galaxy S4

Feeling Happy . Good News
Below The List It Shows : The next version of Android: 5.0 Lollipop
http://www.samsung.com/fi/info/update.html#mobile
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_bring_lollipop_to_s4_note_2_and_others-news-10566.php

I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid

Coming December 2015!
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Punisher420 said:
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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Was it easy to do on your AT&T S4??? Was everything working Wifi and connect to ATT Ok???

Neontc said:
Coming December 2015!
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Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.

Punisher420 said:
I've had lollipop on my s4 for a week thanks to ib4stid
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StoneyJSG said:
Lol more like December 2016 with the way at&t lags with updates.
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Amen on SLOW AT&T UPDATES

Everything worked perfect first try

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Everything worked perfect first try
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You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.

Murasakiii said:
You must be referring to kangapop? I wish I could try it.
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Me as well, I ran @iB4STiD rom's for a long time then was forced into an update which locked my phone up so now I'm safestrapped for life. Really don't mind nj4 just want Lollipop. I have it on my Nexus 7 and with the update to 5.0.2 it's running smooth and quick.

Ask the important questions, man!
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?

VladimirMan93 said:
Does Samsung plan to unlock the i337 bootloaders with the lollipop update!?
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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.

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It's AT&T locking them not Sammy.
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I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.

VladimirMan93 said:
I have an alleged i9505 with an AT&T BL.
however, the droid os belongs to samsung since they're the ones doing the edits, fixes and customization.
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The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version

BehrendsTech said:
The issue is AT&T says we will buy it if you lock it to us so we can keep our customers and make it more of a chore to leave our company. Samsung says ok because we want the sales and that's why it's done... Samsung can care less once they sell you the phone what you do with it and they already built ways to know what you did to the phone for warranty returns. (So they can deny the claims that are caused by you not listening.)
If you want to get mad at anyone get mad at AT&T just like verizon they play every trick in the book.
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,

Albie_Stark said:
It is supose to be unlocked I had the same phone i9505 with i337 bootloader it came that way from the factory at Vietnam cause I bought it brand new,
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I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.

BehrendsTech said:
I have heard of that happening from people that buy online but I don't know much about them I believe someone in one of the threads (that was an at&t or samsung source) said they were at&t branded internationals (meaning they were to be sold through at&t for corporate or maybe coverage outside the US?, though I don't know much more because I only stay up to date on the US versions
If you just bought it you might want to check your buying source (example amazon will give you a new phone if you buy the international that's meant to be used with several carriers), if you have owned it for awhile then you're in the same boat as the rest of us.
I don't think the bootloader will ever be unlocked unless..
A law requires them too...
Someone finally finds a exploit (which because less likely as more people switch to newer phones)
They have a security leak like Sony where the key is discovered.
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OMG!! I supouse that.... but it is ok for me, my phone was manufactured on 11-28-14,I bought it on december 12 if you want to see the whole story look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/bought-i9505-china-i337-bootloader-t2985230
@VladimirMan93 the answer to our pain

BehrendsTech said:
That's why if you buy a phone full price you always go international version
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Or at the very least stop the store worker from updating it when you first activate it. When I bought mine she took it out of the box, turned it on and immediately accepted the update notification and installed it after it downloaded when she put the screen protector on..

@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:

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@Apoplectic1
You should have made her give you different one. I do not and will not allow a store clerk to setup or mess with a phone I'm buying. :good:
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I would have had I known that AT&T locked their bootloaders. This is the first phone that I have owned that had one, and until I tried to mess around with it I had no idea that one could lock a bootloader.

Sadly, I won't be able to get the Lollipop update unless I want my phone locked down forever because I am one of the few people that is still on the MDL firmware which can use the LOKI bootloader bypass to boot custom ROMs.

Developers

Its possible I missed the section where the discussion is going on but are there any developers working on root currently?
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hopesrequiem said:
Its possible I missed the section where the discussion is going on but are there any developers working on root currently?
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I think all root discussion is going on in the Note 4 Developers ONLY section...it is probably fair to assume any root method found for the Note 4 and S5 would work for the S6. But still no major progress. As in the past a root method will probably come out of nowhere from a developer that rarely posts.

KennyG123 said:
I think all root discussion is going on in the Note 4 Developers ONLY section...it is probably fair to assume any root method found for the Note 4 and S5 would work for the S6. But still no major progress. As in the past a root method will probably come out of nowhere from a developer that rarely posts.
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Yeah, this kind of sucks. Every phone I've ever owned I have always rooted and I really miss some of the root functionality.

steelersmb said:
Yeah, this kind of sucks. Every phone I've ever owned I have always rooted and I really miss some of the root functionality.
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Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.

KennyG123 said:
Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
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I know, but T-Mobile's coverage sucks compared to Verizon....ugh. I would switch to them in a second if it was better. I have Verizon for my business and switching to T-Mobile could save me about $3000 a year over Verizon.

steelersmb said:
I know, but T-Mobile's coverage sucks compared to Verizon....ugh. I would switch to them in a second if it was better. I have Verizon for my business and switching to T-Mobile could save me about $3000 a year over Verizon.
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Then perhaps trying a less secure Verizon phone if you do not have T-Mo coverage, like HTC. I think the M9 still cannot be rooted or S-OFF but the M8 can.

KennyG123 said:
Time to switch from Verizon or AT&T then if you must stay with a Samsung phone. They got a pretty good lock on their security software so far.
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This is correct. Verizon s6 will be much like the Note 4, it will never see root. Sad, but true.

And still no word on a developer edition :/

We may be hoping for another futex/towelroot type of kernel level exploit that can leverage root for multiple devices. They don't come along every day but they do come along on occasion. I'd be surprised if there's a targeted root exploit for Samsung devices but I'd be thrilled to be wrong on that.
As for the bootloader...I'll be planning on never. Somebody (or a team of somebody's) might get it, but I won't blame them when they sell it for far more coin than they'll make from some partially paid bounties.

The Note 4 and S6 have different SoCs so its not the same at all. Besides these differences, alas there will be no bootloader unlock.
my 2 cents

On a general basis, i think the galaxy s devices are a little more popular than the note series, and the s6 is proving to be more popular than the s5. So hopefully with a larger following will come increased chances of root....hopefully
I will say this though, the S6 has been the first device I've owned that i didn't want to root right out of the box. Root at this point would just be nice to have for a little more control over the device.

Verizon root
I would pay 500 bucks to a dev that could root this phone, to bad I dont know any personally.:crying:

Goodbye

I have decided to leave this phone behind me. Sold it at full price and bought myself a Galaxy S7 Edge. I'll possibly be around still since my coworker is the one who bought it and he'll probably need help but this might be goodbye.
At this point I've tried all major flagships (besides that iCrap) and wasn't happy with the V10. Specifically T-Mobile/LGs support for the device with the bugs and all.
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Why you werent happy? I have the t mobile v 10. Since january and i havent experienced any bugs so far. The only thing i hate is how low the volume is. Even with a custom rom. We need a new kernel!

I wanted s7 edge so bad and I checked out galaxy s7 edge on tmo store and decided to stay with v10. This phone looks/feels better

bikrame said:
I wanted s7 edge so bad and I checked out galaxy s7 edge on tmo store and decided to stay with v10. This phone looks/feels better
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Same. I just can't get used to the curved edges, my finger slides off them and it annoys me. Waiting for the Note 6.

Rydah805 said:
I have decided to leave this phone behind me. Sold it at full price and bought myself a Galaxy S7 Edge. I'll possibly be around still since my coworker is the one who bought it and he'll probably need help but this might be goodbye.
At this point I've tried all major flagships (besides that iCrap) and wasn't happy with the V10. Specifically T-Mobile/LGs support for the device with the bugs and all.
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Hate to see you go, thanks for all your hard work... Good luck.
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Just saw all new US Samsung phones are bootloader locked... No root!!!
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ZDeuce2 said:
Just saw all new US Samsung phones are bootloader locked... No root!!!
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The international version is not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65788795&postcount=98
But then you lose T-Mobile specific things like wifi-calling.

Goodluck with root. Just read it may be near impossible because even the tmobile version os locked down tighter than normal.

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Just saw all new US Samsung phones are bootloader locked... No root!!!
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That sucks. I knew there was another reason why I dumped Samsung when they got rid of external storage and removable batteries

And Knox and voiding T-mobile warranty, so many reasons. Samsung is like Apple to me now.. Dead. And it not like Samsung doesent have their own bugs and lag
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Just saw all new US Samsung phones are bootloader locked... No root!!!
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Yup... T-Mobile has disappointed me big time with locking the S7 bootloader... oh well, we still have LG, HTC, and Nexus phones to tinker with.

siraltus said:
Yup... T-Mobile has disappointed me big time with locking the S7 bootloader... oh well, we still have LG, HTC, and Nexus phones to tinker with.
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I don't think T-Mobile had a choice in it. I think it was all Samsung on the bootloader. I remember reading somewhere that Samsung was going to require locked bootloaders for all phones but it wasn't supposed to happen for a while yet. Guess Samsung went all Apple of people

siraltus said:
Yup... T-Mobile has disappointed me big time with locking the S7 bootloader... oh well, we still have LG, HTC, and Nexus phones to tinker with.
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Yeah, according to Sammy sources, it's locked so you can't screw up Samsung Pay... And other related security measures...
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Yeah, according to Sammy sources, it's locked so you can't screw up Samsung Pay... And other related security measures...
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So basically they went all Apple on people. Good way to drive people away.

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Yeah, according to Sammy sources, it's locked so you can't screw up Samsung Pay... And other related security measures...
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They should have an official unlock tool like HTC. Sure, if you want it unlocked, you void the warranty and forfeit KNOX and Samsung Pay forever, but you should still be able to do it.

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They should have an official unlock tool like HTC. Sure, if you want it unlocked, you void the warranty and forfeit KNOX and Samsung Pay forever, but you should still be able to do it.
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I would think there's a way... They do have the unlock bootloader option in developer menu... Hell, the Verizon v10 just got root? Who knows... Lol.
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truckerdewd said:
So basically they went all Apple on people. Good way to drive people away.
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They drive away a few thousand modding hobbyists and gain a million security conscious paranoid consumers. That is a win for them.
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They should have an official unlock tool like HTC. Sure, if you want it unlocked, you void the warranty and forfeit KNOX and Samsung Pay forever, but you should still be able to do it.
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Totally agree here!! Or sell developer models that get regular updates and sell them right at release day.

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They drive away a few thousand modding hobbyists and gain a million security conscious paranoid consumers. That is a win for them.
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Yup! That's exactly why this happened. However, the presence of the OEM Unlock option in the Developer Options screen hints at there being a way, just not a very obvious one.
We might have to resort to weird stuff like using send_command.exe with the LG G4 on Lollipop. Someone has to figure it out.

Looks like Mr.T-Mobile, John Legere, is all over trying to get the bootloader unlocked on the S7 and the S7 Edge. I told y'all it wasn't T-Mobile that wanted it locked.

I have the V10, and love it......I also love T-Mobile specifically because Legere is at the helm. The guy has done so much for T-MO users while CEO.....this is why i'm a T-Mobile customer for life (or Legere leaves). If they can unlock the bootloader then I may get the S7 Edge
and sell my V10.

........ vzw note 5 band 2 ? .........

Please reply ppl dose the vzw note 5 have band 2 enabled with latest update from Verizon? And if not enabled how do I enable it. Im new to the Verizon note 5
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Yes, the Verizon Note 5 has band 2 enabled by default. If you would like to check which bands your phone is connecting to, I highly recommend the app "LTE Discovery" from the play store. The creators have done a great job of making it work well.

BlockOfDynamite said:
Yes, the Verizon Note 5 has band 2 enabled by default. If you would like to check which bands your phone is connecting to, I highly recommend the app "LTE Discovery" from the play store. The creators have done a great job of making it work well.
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Sweet I've already have that app on my phone tells you all the details is there any like phone dialer codes and I can double-check make sure it's enabled

teckynerd6249 said:
Sweet I've already have that app on my phone tells you all the details is there any like phone dialer codes and I can double-check make sure it's enabled
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Unfortunately not. Most of the dialer codes for this phone are disabled sucks, but it is what it is.

I'm on Verizon, I would like to get a note 5 but only if i can have root and unlocked bootloader. Is there a version of the note 5 I can have that will work on Verizon and be able to root and unlock the bootloader?

Super_SU01 said:
I'm on Verizon, I would like to get a note 5 but only if i can have root and unlocked bootloader. Is there a version of the note 5 I can have that will work on Verizon and be able to root and unlock the bootloader?
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Nope, you're SOL. Besides, you're in the wrong thread. Bad way to increase your comment count.

BlockOfDynamite said:
Nope, you're SOL. Besides, you're in the wrong thread. Bad way to increase your comment count.
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My bad man, I'll do more reading and get more familiar with the rules. Sorry about this. I'm very noobish.

Super_SU01 said:
My bad man, I'll do more reading and get more familiar with the rules. Sorry about this. I'm very noobish.
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No problem! If you have any questions there are lots of people who would love to help. Unfortunately this forum has been dead-ish for the past month or so. What with one guy refusing to release the root exploit he "found" and others just trying to do a little customization that's currently beyond the control of the device, there's not much going on here. If you would like to get into rooting and romming I would suggest looking at phones that aren't locked to a carrier (like the unlocked HTC 10 although I didn't like it much or a Moto). Can't beat the Note 5 though!

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No problem! If you have any questions there are lots of people who would love to help. Unfortunately this forum has been dead-ish for the past month or so. What with one guy refusing to release the root exploit he "found" and others just trying to do a little customization that's currently beyond the control of the device, there's not much going on here. If you would like to get into rooting and romming I would suggest looking at phones that aren't locked to a carrier (like the unlocked HTC 10 although I didn't like it much or a Moto). Can't beat the Note 5 though!
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Thanks for the advice! Ill probably end up getting the nexus 6.

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Thanks for the advice! Ill probably end up getting the nexus 6.
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That's what I had before the Note 5. It was decent to start out but was beyond painful to use in the end. The 32-bit snapdragon and 3GB ram really limit how long you can keep it on before it starts to get really sluggish. I will say though I miss the feel of my N6. It was just a nice shape and the stereo front-facing speakers were fantastic. Dangit now you've got me wanting one again as a backup phone >_<

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That's what I had before the Note 5. It was decent to start out but was beyond painful to use in the end. The 32-bit snapdragon and 3GB ram really limit how long you can keep it on before it starts to get really sluggish. I will say though I miss the feel of my N6. It was just a nice shape and the stereo front-facing speakers were fantastic. Dangit now you've got me wanting one again as a backup phone >_<
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Lol if I buy one it will make my 4th N6. I would love to have something other than a nexus 6. It limits me on what I can get because I'm on Verizon and that sucks. I could get the International s8+ and use it on AT&T I guess but I really don't wanna have to cancel my service with Verizon. If I can't root and BL unlock then I don't want it. It also makes it kinda hard for me to switch carriers because I have my wife and son on my plan. Hopfully I can figure something out within the next couple weeks..

Super_SU01 said:
Lol if I buy one it will make my 4th N6. I would love to have something other than a nexus 6. It limits me on what I can get because I'm on Verizon and that sucks. I could get the International s8+ and use it on AT&T I guess but I really don't wanna have to cancel my service with Verizon. If I can't root and BL unlock then I don't want it. It also makes it kinda hard for me to switch carriers because I have my wife and son on my plan. Hopfully I can figure something out within the next couple weeks..
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Yeah if you're looking for something that you can unlock and root, we're talking s7 and newer. I wouldn't recommend the s7 just because the snapdragon 820/821 performance really isn't up to par with the Exynos in the Note 5. That leaves the S8/Note8. I think you'd have to look for one that came from Samsung or from a carrier that doesn't bootloader-lock their phones. I know Verizon does and I think AT&T does but I'm not sure. Exynos devices are going to be hit or miss, but imo are far superior (speed- and heat-wise).

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Yeah if you're looking for something that you can unlock and root, we're talking s7 and newer. I wouldn't recommend the s7 just because the snapdragon 820/821 performance really isn't up to par with the Exynos in the Note 5. That leaves the S8/Note8. I think you'd have to look for one that came from Samsung or from a carrier that doesn't bootloader-lock their phones. I know Verizon does and I think AT&T does but I'm not sure. Exynos devices are going to be hit or miss, but imo are far superior (speed- and heat-wise).
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It should be illegal for carriers to lock down a phone! I have another issue as most people. My budget is tight, about 200 bucks is my limit. Right now I'm using the Xiaomi Mi Mix 128gb and 4 gigs of ram. I had a lot of people tell me that the mix wouldn't work on Verizon in the US. I haven't had any issues using the mix. I get 4g everywhere I go. I like my mix but development isn't all that great, let's just say it could be a whole lot better. I have only had this device for about 6 months I like it but I want another phone, lol. I guess I could sale my MI mix and put that money with what I already have and buy a international note 8 or s8+ but then I'd have to switch carriers and I really don't wanna have to do that if I don't have to.

Super_SU01 said:
I'm on Verizon, I would like to get a note 5 but only if i can have root and unlocked bootloader. Is there a version of the note 5 I can have that will work on Verizon and be able to root and unlock the bootloader?
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You are in the wrong Forum discussion

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I realize this, man. I was having a dialog with someone. If you would scroll up a few pages and read you would see that I was already advised I was in the wrong thread. After being told by @blockofDynamite that this wasn't a good way to increase my word count, I agreed. We then had a few discussions and I went on my way.....