Sup, so I recently bought the Xperia XZ because I liked its camera and wanted to plug it to the PC to stream stuff, silly me.
I'm reading in the comments (from 2016) that no MHL has been implemented since the Xperia Z or something, but it actually can be implemented.
So, no news so far?, I'm ready to exchange my phone for another who has MHL capabilities, you could recommend me one while you are it (23 Megapixels)
u can use wireless like screenMirror ,cast or DLNA ...but u probably dont want that...since u want cable connection.
Yeah wireless won't do with my internet.
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This looks awsome.....
Anyone know how much this device will support MHL?
I see it has an MHL enabled usb but does anyone know if this will work out of the box? I can't find much info about it thats device specific.
I think it is safe to say it will work out of the box, in that the phone will support MHL out of the USB port. The question will be if the MHL cable will be included in the box.
The other issue is what will you plug it into? I do not think there are any tv sets with an MHL compatible HDMI port yet.
I would imagine that at first will will have to use MHL adapter cables that split from the MHL-USB side to normal HDMI plus a USB charging cable at the other end. Or just straight to HDMI and forgo the charging aspect.
Can u use a normal HDTV or do u need a MHL HDTV?
from what I've found out any tv with hdmi should work it just won't power from the tv.
Ive just found the answer to my questions, You will be able to connect an MHL phone to a non-MHL TV through the use of an adapter, it works the same as HDMI cable. Just no charging feature unless u use the Y-adapter where u can put a mini HDMI and a charger in the same adapter so then ull get best of both worlds.
The samsung Y-adaptor will be out in a month or so. U can then charge ya phone while watching media from ya phone, http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-mhl-adaptor
but i thought of somthin, y would u need this if u can stream from ya phone to ya ps3 etc.. dont get me wrong a sgsII in the samsung dock would look real neet and to use ya tv remote to view ya phones content will be flashy, but its a lil bit much money to buy the accessories needed just to be flash to ya mates, wen ya can stream free to a ps3 with no cables etc...
Can this MHL mirror the phone just like a tv out, coz playin games on ya tv via ya phone is fun
U can mirror
Hi like usual I am on a hunt for my ideal phone. I want it to be able to connect to a TV and use OTG so I can use it as a games console and to watch films when I am away from my PC. Also I would love it to have a forward facing camera and decent battery life but I know battery life is a lot to ask for and I will settle with carrying a spare battery or buying a giant extended battery.
I am having problems finding something affordable and an all round phone that has these features.
Interestingly I found out that most of the Sony phones released around 2011 have hdmi and also otg (it might need a module installed).
But I know the sony phones cannot use third party headphones as they have a slightly different plug which I will probably find very irritating.
So far I am considering these:
Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo/Neo V (HDMI)
Motorola Atrix/Atrix 2 (HDMI)
Samsung Galaxy Nexus (MHL)
I am finding it hard to decide and would love it if I had more choice. I would just save up and get a Nexus 4 but I am a bit pissed off that it does not have MHL but Slimport and so far there is not an adaptor that will give me both a hdmi output and also OTG USB plug with Slimport..
So anyone know anymore phones that I can get that have OTG and MHL/HDMI? They need to be around £50-100 second hand.
Many thanks!
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Hi all,
First thread I have ever started on xda,
Used the site for years to help with rooting various phones and tablets,
Anyway I wondered if anyone has tried a MHL Adapter for the Z5 yet?
Know of one that works?
Thanks
I used the Sony mhl cable and it worked only issue was that I could see half the navigation bar but that was on an old tele at my friends since I have chromecast I don't have much use for it at home
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Thanks,
I do have chromecast myself, great little device,
I tried streaming the vice city game to my TV, through chromecast it was laggy
In parts, I have 50mb fibre optic so thought it would be OK,
Basically I'm hoping using MHL will remove all lag and I can also
Use my phone as abit of a gaming device to TV,
I work away alot as well so MHL would be good for hotels,
I'm in no rush for one at the moment, searching Google doesnt really give alot of results right now, nice to know your old adapter works though
Well 50mb fibre doesn't buff you're WiFi. Minimum standard today should be 54MBit (as far as coverage is concerned), so it's (in simple) faster than your isp.
Z5 and chromecast support ac standard wich results in a theoretically 1300MBit throughput. Wich should be more than enough to deliver full HD material lagfree if properly compressed.
I'll bet that your problem isn't your isp (50MBit fibre has got nothing to do with chromecast) it's more likely your WiFi
Either it's bad designed or, more likely, one of your components is too old.
It'd check the supported WiFi standards of your router first.
To your initial question: I'm using the genuine Sony mhl im750 and up until now I didn't have any problems with it.
I've used it to play all kinds of emulators on my Z1 paired with a ps3 ds controller on a big screen. To bad the ds3 got dropped. I don't have a ps4 yet
My fibre optic was installed a few years back, new router from Virgin and stuff, films stream OK,
I only tried it the once so will give it another go,
I was looking at the mhl adapters on eBay and Amazon,
Anything I should look out for in particular?
Avoid cheaper versions and go Sony?
I have a ps3 and 4, would rather of attached a ps3 controller as I use my ps4 pads for the ps4 quite alot,
Probably have to root to get ps3 controller support again with six axis app
I use a Sony MHL adapter, haven't tried it on my Z5. Worked great on my Z1. I could even use a capture card to record it and use a Dualshock 3 controller. https://youtu.be/RekbQdR7_8s
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I tried the sony IM750 MHL to HDMI adapter on Lineage 14.1 from the forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/orig-development/cm-14-1-lineageos-t3536846
That doesn't work, it causes the phone to reboot. I haven't tried ohter MHL to HDMI adapters and I haven't tried this adapter on stock rom either.
hello xda developers!
I recently found on ebay a micro-USB to USB OTG , HDMI , SD card and i want to use it with my galaxy tab s 8.4 as a media center (mainly kodi)
I have few questions that i hope you can answer me:
what type of cable do i need (compatible to which phone)?
does it charge the tablet or i have to use it with the hub while it is discharging?
Does the Ebay MHL to hdmi from china give out good fps , image quality and respond time (screencast i too slow)
doest it send sound through cable?
Thanks for the help
You need MHL 3rd generation compatible. This generation also charge tablet. With MHL cable you get higher FPS, image quality same as on tablet.
this is the kind of mhl cable that i use.
https://www.amazon.com/Aibocn-Unive...MHL-enabled/dp/B00V7UEE8Q/ref=dp_ob_title_wld
Dont get a MHL. Invest in a chrome cast its better and the quality is HD. Get the all cast app too as you can cast anything but the google home app lets you mirror your phone to tv.
olster said:
Dont get a MHL. Invest in a chrome cast its better and the quality is HD. Get the all cast app too as you can cast anything but the google home app lets you mirror your phone to tv.
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I can agree with this. I always used to have an MHL cable. And I also have one for this tablet. But with less and less tablets supporting MHL. Not many custom roms supporting MHL, it's way better to invest in a Chromecast. It's more furute proof. A chromecast is smaller (less cable). With a chromecast you can put your phone/tablet anywhere in the room, no restictions of cable lenghts. Etc.
That being said, I still need to get my own chromecast. It's going to be one of the first things I'm going to buy.
Does the XZ or the XZ Premium support HDMI alternative or alt mode through the USB-C port?
This is what I'm talking about :
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/9/1/12758384/usb-c-hdmi-alt-mode-cables-specifications
I think Sony dropped MHL support because of the google cast.
Not sure if usb C to HDMI works, but you can find out and let us know
Apparently the Snapdragon 835 natively supports Displayport alt mode.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlkkM8SkDQ
I've bought this HUB with HDMI recently: https://www.amazon.de/Delivery-Auflösung-Ladefunktion-Macbook-ChromeBook/dp/B01BXOW3V0 but haven't got the HDMI Port to work so far, I'll try again later propably.
Any news?
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Any news?
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I've tried it again but it didn't work. The Device might not support Displayport over USB C at all or we just need to wait for an Software Update.
Check if your device supports Displayport alt mode.
Or you could try it with a Displayport alt mode capable USB-C to HDMI cable or adapter.
C to HDMI cable didn't work.
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C to HDMI cable didn't work.
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Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable?
Thanks.
lebigmac said:
Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable just like this one? This cable here is marketed as DisplayPort alt mode capable and it's supposed to work with Samsung Galaxy S8 which also uses the Snapdragon 835 chipset. So theoretically it should also work with Sony Xperia XZ Premium out of the box.
https://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Compatible-Galaxy-MacBook-ChromeBook/dp/B01LYS3Q5A
Thanks for the info.
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I used this one (it supports Galaxy S8):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FNG86N/
I tried with multiple TV and monitor, but it didn't work.
[UPDATE]
I checked with HTC U11 and it works, so cable itself is good.
Unfortunately I can confirm that the Sony Xperia XZ Premium does not support Displayport alt mode at this moment in time. Perhaps Sony developers might add Displayport support in the near future though but don't hold your breath.
The hardware capability is there thanks to the incredible Snapdragon 835 but for some reason Sony decided to remove this feature through software or rather a lack thereof.
It's a shame really. Now I need to return this phone and buy a flagship smartphone from one of the competitors just to get this displayport functionality.
Hi, Oreo update has been just released for Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Any new info about USB-C to HDMI output compatibility? Can someone test it? Im thinking of buying this phone, but this is a must have feature for me. No luck with Google search.
Ditto-- any news since Oreo update?
Anyone try since the Oreo update? Results?
I just try to plug in the phone with a switch to usb C dock (capable to use with nintendo switch) but it still didn´t work for me, and nothing appears on the screen. The charging and usb are working correctly, so Oreo still haven´t HDMI support for our Phones
I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/displayport-alt-mode-t3739553
just because a chipset supports something doesn't mean its physically connected, not even having the pins connected on the PCB will determine if it can support it, the hardware could be disabled in multiple locations and supporting chips may not even be present. yes it may well be software limited but don't hold your breath, since time began manufactures have be dropping functions from chipsets
Yes it's possible and feasible. Ignore that lame know-it-all naysayer and doubter above ^^
@Inerent
Thanks for creating a bounty thread for it.
You might want to turn it into a crowd funded fundraiser though.
100 bucks is not much of an incentive for the talented and hard working developers. Keep in mind they do this in their spare time. We must support their hard work.
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I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.
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How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?
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How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?
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I have an app called Sentio desktop. It activates if an external display is connected, or a keyboard is connected. I didn't connect a keyboard at that time, so it must've detected an external display. I tried using OTG for plenty of other things. It doesn't make mistakes. Sentio only launched when I connected a keyboard, not external storage, or even a mouse. Only when I connected a 2 in one (mouse+keyboard) did Sentio launch.
And when I hooked my phone up to the TV with the HDMI cable.
Do you think that that piece of information could be useful in making a kernel mod to make it work?