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Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!
kennyry said:
Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!
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I have the same cable and mhl works as long add the rom supports it. As for your question I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741583&page=21 and on the last page there is a link for someone who got it to work on as3 however our phones have different pin configuration but you should be able to do the same thing as him
OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.
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OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.
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Well my Skyrocket screen was destroyed by my youngest son So, I had an idea to use the old phone with the MHL adapter to connect to my TV (which is not a smart TV). The need for the OTG is to plug in peripherals such as kb/mouse, but after further review, i could probably just use bluetooth. The device itself doesn't need to have much storage really, all of the movies are being streamed from my mini home server (DLNA).
So instead of going out and spending 60 on a smart TV adapater, I figured I would try to make use of what I already had, a phone with a broken screen. I'm not even sure the digitizer works and I was unable to find a replacement screen a decent price. The phone has already been replaced with a Nexus 4, so I'm not really concerned with the "safety" of the skyrocket.
I think it would be nice to use it as a TV adapter, surf net, play games watch movies while in bed using a wireless mouse/keyboard.
You would think there would already be something like this out there...
I came across this, then noticed their statement "Use Bluetooth keyboard for wireless control" Which really tells me no OTG... and heard was broken ha.
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streamer-MHL-Charging-Dock/dp/tech-data/B0094M3DZY/ref=de_a_smtd
Curious here. Does the Note 4 or any smartphone for that matter have an HDMI In option? In terms of plugging a blu ray player into the device to watch blu rays. Seeing if anyone knows the hardware capabilities of USB connectors on smartphones. Checked out the Note 4 with the Oculus and it looks nice. Would be nice to chill and watch movies in a nice dark environment it offers.
did you say you want to plug a bluray player into your note 4? why? watch the 1080p goodness on your tv at home... "buy" some digital copies for your phone
My thoughts are like yours. Pick up a slingbox and just open a browser on your glasses and you are set. If you are gaming there will be some lag time but if you step up to the $300 setup it's all hdmi 1080p
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did you say you want to plug a bluray player into your note 4? why? watch the 1080p goodness on your tv at home... "buy" some digital copies for your phone
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ROBOHOLIC said:
My thoughts are like yours. Pick up a slingbox and just open a browser on your glasses and you are set. If you are gaming there will be some lag time but if you step up to the $300 setup it's all hdmi 1080p
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From a gear VR perspective, having HDMI in would be awesome. I can't possibly imagine wirelessly streaming a fast action game to the phone.
Wondering the same thing
Just finished up a DIY VR for my Note 4 and was wondering the same thing. If I could get an HDMI in from the PS4 + a player that can split the image into two on my screen I think I might be in heaven lol. I've been using it for mostly digital copies of videos, and it's pretty awesome. Hope someone comes through with an answer or a solution!
Thanks to all in advance.
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No. If you want to watch a Blu Ray, create an MKV or image, and use a player, such as BS Player, VLC, etc, and watch the file that way.
On side note, it makes no sense what you're asking other than just for the challenge of tinkering. You're either going to be home, so you can watch the blu ray on your blu ray player connected to your big tv or you're out and about, and thus are you really going to be bring a blu ray player with you? And there's no way, the phone is going to be able to power a portable usb blu ray drive; probably a DVD too. And I don't think you'll be able to get blu ray drive to work with a USB OTG cable even if you could managed to give the drive enough power to work because it'll probably need additional drivers that haven't been created. Plus, I don't think the microUSB port will have enough throughput.
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No. If you want to watch a Blu Ray, create an MKV or image, and use a player, such as BS Player, VLC, etc, and watch the file that way.
On side note, it makes no sense what you're asking other than just for the challenge of tinkering. You're either going to be home, so you can watch the blu ray on your blu ray player connected to your big tv or you're out and about, and thus are you really going to be bring a blu ray player with you? And there's no way, the phone is going to be able to power a portable usb blu ray drive; probably a DVD too. And I don't think you'll be able to get blu ray drive to work with a USB OTG cable even if you could managed to give the drive enough power to work because it'll probably need additional drivers that haven't been created. Plus, I don't think the microUSB port will have enough throughput.
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I've been looking for video-in on a mobile for some time now. Small high-res. screens are not cheap, and with old phones lying around...
I'm thinking more of FPV than blu-ray. It would be ideal to use my note 4 for a live video feed, and note 2 for telemetry. The less I have to carry around the better.
Has anyone got an answer for this post? I want to do the same.
I want to be able to plug it into my ps3.
Is it possible?
The Note 4 supports HDMI out via MHL, however not input.
Additionally, the Note 4 docks into the Gear VR via the microUSB port, acting as an input device via USB OTG. Unlike previous devices that could use USB and MHL at the same time and use accessories like this smart dock, the Note 4 can only do one or the other. My best guess is this has something to do with the Fast Charge controller and USB OTG and MHL not working at the same time, due to simultaneous power in/out.
Oddly enough, the S6 version of the Gear VR has a microUSB port on the bottom for charging, leading me to believe that Samsung found a solution. If I had to guess, it charges the "old" way while an accessory is plugged in, rather than using fast charging at the same time. Makes sense, honestly, since it would also reduce head, something that would impede performance in VR.
tl;dr: Note 4 only supports video IN, not out, plus the Gear VR uses the microUSB port.
Regarding the S6, however: I have access to an S6 and matching VR at work. I'll try it out and see if my guess is right.
I want to be able to plug it into my ps3.
I don't think the Note 4 or any other smartphone has the required video capture circuitry, unfortunately. You'll just have to settle for USB or wireless video streaming if a Rift stand-in is what you're looking for.
I've already been experimenting a bit with Trinus VR in the meantime, but I don't consider it really satisfactory as a Rift substitute. Guess I'm waiting for the CV1 next year.
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The Note 4 supports HDMI out via MHL, however not input.
Additionally, the Note 4 docks into the Gear VR via the microUSB port, acting as an input device via USB OTG. Unlike previous devices that could use USB and MHL at the same time and use accessories like this smart dock, the Note 4 can only do one or the other. My best guess is this has something to do with the Fast Charge controller and USB OTG and MHL not working at the same time, due to simultaneous power in/out.
Oddly enough, the S6 version of the Gear VR has a microUSB port on the bottom for charging, leading me to believe that Samsung found a solution. If I had to guess, it charges the "old" way while an accessory is plugged in, rather than using fast charging at the same time. Makes sense, honestly, since it would also reduce head, something that would impede performance in VR.
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I think the missing microUSB passthrough on the Note 4 Gear VR is just a design oversight with the Gear VR enclosure, one that could be corrected if someone were willing to break out a soldering iron and a cutting tool. I'd experiment with it myself, but I don't feel like doing irreversible mods to my Gear VR right now.
I doubt it's a USB OTG + MHL issue, considering that Samsung uses an 11-pin microUSB port precisely to get around that limitation that typical 5-pin MHL smartphones have. Look carefully toward the rear of the port, you'll see the extra pins dedicated to MHL.
I can't say I've tested one of those smart docks yet, though. I like the sound of them in theory, but the software still needs to adapt to a desktop experience on-the-fly, and Android just isn't built with that in mind right now.
Pi 2 hdmi screen?
Also interested in this but for use with a raspberry pi 2 model b with full hdmi. The crappy tft hats that are available don't give anywhere close to the resolution. Would be nice to work on code and other stuff while on the go.
I have a note 4 & a old note 2 so if this is possible with either please reply. Also I'm not opposed to taking the note 2 or an old Droid x apart to separate the screen and stock phone mobo if the screens can be connected with ribbon directly to the Pi 2
Hi all,
First thread I have ever started on xda,
Used the site for years to help with rooting various phones and tablets,
Anyway I wondered if anyone has tried a MHL Adapter for the Z5 yet?
Know of one that works?
Thanks
I used the Sony mhl cable and it worked only issue was that I could see half the navigation bar but that was on an old tele at my friends since I have chromecast I don't have much use for it at home
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Thanks,
I do have chromecast myself, great little device,
I tried streaming the vice city game to my TV, through chromecast it was laggy
In parts, I have 50mb fibre optic so thought it would be OK,
Basically I'm hoping using MHL will remove all lag and I can also
Use my phone as abit of a gaming device to TV,
I work away alot as well so MHL would be good for hotels,
I'm in no rush for one at the moment, searching Google doesnt really give alot of results right now, nice to know your old adapter works though
Well 50mb fibre doesn't buff you're WiFi. Minimum standard today should be 54MBit (as far as coverage is concerned), so it's (in simple) faster than your isp.
Z5 and chromecast support ac standard wich results in a theoretically 1300MBit throughput. Wich should be more than enough to deliver full HD material lagfree if properly compressed.
I'll bet that your problem isn't your isp (50MBit fibre has got nothing to do with chromecast) it's more likely your WiFi
Either it's bad designed or, more likely, one of your components is too old.
It'd check the supported WiFi standards of your router first.
To your initial question: I'm using the genuine Sony mhl im750 and up until now I didn't have any problems with it.
I've used it to play all kinds of emulators on my Z1 paired with a ps3 ds controller on a big screen. To bad the ds3 got dropped. I don't have a ps4 yet
My fibre optic was installed a few years back, new router from Virgin and stuff, films stream OK,
I only tried it the once so will give it another go,
I was looking at the mhl adapters on eBay and Amazon,
Anything I should look out for in particular?
Avoid cheaper versions and go Sony?
I have a ps3 and 4, would rather of attached a ps3 controller as I use my ps4 pads for the ps4 quite alot,
Probably have to root to get ps3 controller support again with six axis app
I use a Sony MHL adapter, haven't tried it on my Z5. Worked great on my Z1. I could even use a capture card to record it and use a Dualshock 3 controller. https://youtu.be/RekbQdR7_8s
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I tried the sony IM750 MHL to HDMI adapter on Lineage 14.1 from the forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/orig-development/cm-14-1-lineageos-t3536846
That doesn't work, it causes the phone to reboot. I haven't tried ohter MHL to HDMI adapters and I haven't tried this adapter on stock rom either.
so i compete in a car audio budget limited class in the UK
i am looking for a hens tooth i think
so my requirements are ideally 7-8" tablet with usb ideally c so i can use my usb c hub with a topping D10 dac and also use usb audio player pro to get bit perfect output from the tablet via the topping D10, along with insert usb sticks in the hub to play music from (i have a usb extension lead to a panel mount socket on the centre console so i can hide the hub
under 150 if possible, but if the usb c causes grief at this price point i can go to micro usb as long as the device supports charging and otg at the same time
so far i have tried a galaxy tab a 10.1 t510 which did work, but was a bit too big, i have also tried a lenovo tab 4 plus 10" and this also works with my u green hub and the topping D10, however both were too big and i wanted a more compact tablet
i also had to modifiy the wiring to the hub with a relay on the power side of it to prevent the hub draining the battery while the tab is in standby overnight
so i then have in my possesion a amazon 8 hd plus... how simple is it to make something that works? so if i plug my hub in i can get music from the topping into the car, if i plug the charger into the hub i cant get the tablet to charge (sort of although it was very slow if working at all) via the hub like the samsung and lenovo do.... if i unplug the hub and plug it back in it then charges and i cant see the topping... i did kind of find a solution, if i plug a micro usb charger into the hub with a wireless charger on the end and connect the topping the topping makes sound, and also then position the wireless charger at the rear of the tablet i can get sound and also charge... however it didnt seem to want to go past 42% so i suspect the amazon is going to be a fail and get returned, its ideal at 110 quid or whatever it cost
i understand most samsungs with micro usb will actually charge and otg at the same time, so a tab a 8" 2019 would be a solution i think... but now ive bought 3 tablets and an ipad (these do solve my issue but i need an ipad mini 2 16gb without a knackered lightening port... got one off ebay that wouldnt charge already... but they do give bit perfect output but cant use a usb stick for music input... hence the android tablet still appealing)
any suggestions for my requirements are welcomed!
basically 7-8" devices with usb c that will work with my hub, or micro usb that support otg and charging at the same time
for daily use i will also use my iphone XR 256gb into a second topping D10 as i can then get bit perfect tidal stuff, and store it on the device as signal can be hit or miss around my way
AH man what disappointment tried my USB C hub with HDMI and nothing quick google search and you need a MHL adaptor what a step back
do they even make USB C MHL adaptor adapters
takes me back to my note 3 - 4 days those adapter can't even keep phone charging while consuming power as far as I remember it was and issue back then they only charge in "USB charging" mode speed 500 ma or less
have they advance with USB C ??
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Other-Mobile-Devices/Samsung-Galaxy-A71-5g/td-p/1348322
I do see MHL to HDMI cables on Amazon. But I am not sure if any of them work. I am personally looking for one so I can use it in the car so my kids can watch what I mirror off my A71 5g.
If anyone comes across a cable that works, please let me know. TIA
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AH man what disappointment tried my USB C hub with HDMI and nothing quick google search and you need a MHL adaptor what a step back
do they even make USB C MHL adaptor adapters
takes me back to my note 3 - 4 days those adapter can't even keep phone charging while consuming power as far as I remember it was and issue back then they only charge in "USB charging" mode speed 500 ma or less
have they advance with USB C ??
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Other-Mobile-Devices/Samsung-Galaxy-A71-5g/td-p/1348322
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You shouldn't be too surprised if you're looking for old technology and get flashbacks of your old devices, what do you expect? I remember cables was a thing on my S3..
Its 2020, not 2012, who uses wires when we can easily go wireless? Spend that money you're wanting to buy wires with on a cheap Chromecast if your TV doesn't already have it built in. You can get a used one for like under $10, $5 probably.. I can sell you my 1st gen CC, for $5 if you want..
Then look for the "cast" feature in settings and there you go. That let's you cast a video on your TV screen while you can be doing something totally different on your phone, like browsing the web or something. Now if you want to mirror your phone screen so the exact image appears on the TV, thats possible too..
This may not help the individual question, however, it may provide info for someone.
I have casted my Note 8 using a Chrome Cast and Roku. The Roku Ultra worked much better as there was no lag.
I also cast movies from my PC Windows 10 to my Smart TV via Web/Internet and that works great. Problem with Roku is that Roku does not support AVI format movies. So, I can play AVI movies from my Note 8 or PC to the TV.