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Hi, I have a question. I want to know which one is better. Official rom or Cm10 rom ?
isn't any body to help me?
That depends on how you use your tablet. For most uses the stock ROM is what you want. It generally offers a more stable experience, but some of the extra features of Cyanogen may make it worth it.
One of the main reasons I use Cyanogen is to have a mostly AOSP system and remove manufacturer skins like Sense and TouchWiz. On the TF300 this isn't much of an issue as it's 90% vanilla android anyway. ASUS added a custom notification menu (that can be disabled to use the standard Android tablet menu), a custom control panel ("ASUS Customized Settings"), and several apps. Not much else.
CM10 also has a number of added features. A fairly big one is the theme manager which lets you skin the device, and there's a large number of added settings for customization. It also gives you root access and allows for overclocking, which are common features power users may want.
The best advice I can give: If you want the device to "just work", stick with stock. If the added CM10 features are enough to make you want to switch, give it a try. Just know that there's a lot of reading you need to do to install it without bricking your device.
Note that on the TF300 you cannot run CM10 if your device already the 4.1 Jellybean update. Also note that, if you're running ICS, you must unlock the device to install CM10, which voids your warranty and may not be something you really want to do.
timothyb89 said:
That depends on how you use your tablet. For most uses the stock ROM is what you want. It generally offers a more stable experience, but some of the extra features of Cyanogen may make it worth it.
One of the main reasons I use Cyanogen is to have a mostly AOSP system and remove manufacturer skins like Sense and TouchWiz. On the TF300 this isn't much of an issue as it's 90% vanilla android anyway. ASUS added a custom notification menu (that can be disabled to use the standard Android tablet menu), a custom control panel ("ASUS Customized Settings"), and several apps. Not much else.
CM10 also has a number of added features. A fairly big one is the theme manager which lets you skin the device, and there's a large number of added settings for customization. It also gives you root access and allows for overclocking, which are common features power users may want.
The best advice I can give: If you want the device to "just work", stick with stock. If the added CM10 features are enough to make you want to switch, give it a try. Just know that there's a lot of reading you need to do to install it without bricking your device.
Note that on the TF300 you cannot run CM10 if your device already the 4.1 Jellybean update. Also note that, if you're running ICS, you must unlock the device to install CM10, which voids your warranty and may not be something you really want to do.
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thanks, so u said i can't install it over the stock rom? so, what should i do to have cm10? i already have unlocked, rooted, and touch recovery 6
elastiboy said:
thanks, so u said i can't install it over the stock rom? so, what should i do to have cm10? i already have unlocked, rooted, and touch recovery 6
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As timothyb89 mentioned - If you updated to Asus official JB you can't have CM10, not yet - but xplowild is working on it, give it some time.
Installed OC Rom last night and was really satisfied with it, so I can strongly recommend that for you, if you are on JB bootloader.
In my opinion a Custom ROM is much smoother and faster than the stock rom, and the extra features is always a bonus
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As timothyb89 mentioned - If you updated to Asus official JB you can't have CM10, not yet - but xplowild is working on it, give it some time.
Installed OC Rom last night and was really satisfied with it, so I can strongly recommend that for you, if you are on JB bootloader.
In my opinion a Custom ROM is much smoother and faster than the stock rom, and the extra features is always a bonus
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thanks, so what about another custom rom? such as blackbean?
Blackbean is one choice. Though it's appears to be based on CM so it probably won't run on the Jellybean bootloader quite yet.
A quick list of stock-based ROMs you could use arranged roughly in order of their popularity:
Hydro (Jellybean)
CleanROM - this is what I'm running right now
[email protected]
The Ultra Fast ROM
I personally like CleanROM as it seems to be more stable than the others I tried (mainly stock and Hydro). I had serious issues with random reboots, freezing, and WiFi death, and for the most part those are resolved in CleanROM. Your mileage may vary.
i installed clean rom, so can i i install cm10 rom?
Hello, everyone!
Right now I'm running Tweaky One ROM without practically any mods, because I prefer to use the Xposed Framework to personalize my Android.
Now, I would really, really like to try the kernels available. But most of them are made only for AOSP ROMs. But I don't want to run CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android or any other modified AOSP ROM. I like Tweaky One ROM because how clean it is, but it based on stock ROM.
So, is there are a "clean" AOSP ROM for our Moto G?
Thanks for your help!
Honestly, CyanogenMod is cleaner than the stock ROM. Also, CM+ART runtime= Win. (Art breaks xposed though)
Obviously the Google Play Edition variant of stock firmware IS and always will be the cleanest
Thanks for the answers!
I like CM, but I really want to use some of the features on Gravity Box. And because both it and CM have features that overlap, I think it will be having more than I want on my cellphone.
And the strange thing with GPE is that the custom kernels won't work with it, as it seems to count as a "stock" ROM rather than a "AOSP" ROM.
Any other suggestions?
You could use Faux123 kernel on stock
PanchoPonceN said:
Hello, everyone!
Right now I'm running Tweaky One ROM without practically any mods, because I prefer to use the Xposed Framework to personalize my Android.
Now, I would really, really like to try the kernels available. But most of them are made only for AOSP ROMs. But I don't want to run CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android or any other modified AOSP ROM. I like Tweaky One ROM because how clean it is, but it based on stock ROM.
So, is there are a "clean" AOSP ROM for our Moto G?
Thanks for your help!
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I've tried a lot of different custom roms and always come back to the stock with a custom kernel, it is the best imo
Hey im still running Android 4.4.2 CleanRom and its been a while since ive been around. I feel a bit outdate and was wondering what i should upgrade to. Not looking to do nightly's as i do not have the time, just looking for something new and stable. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Cam
camf3xu said:
Hey im still running Android 4.4.2 CleanRom and its been a while since ive been around. I feel a bit outdate and was wondering what i should upgrade to. Not looking to do nightly's as i do not have the time, just looking for something new and stable. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
-Cam
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Hi, here on xda we dont compare roms, sorry. its just taboo of the worst kind. Also please post questions in the question and answers portion of the forum, thanks and cheers.
I'll go ahead and reply with respect to the split between KitKat and Lollipop. You'll note a bunch of Lollipop-based ROMs appearing. Some have chosen to flash those, to be on the cutting edge. However, the Xposed Framework - one of the most useful customization tooks in the Android world - has not been updated to work with the "ART" (Android Run Time) and instead is only still compatible with Dalvik-based system. The developer of Xposed has indicated that he may work on updating XPosed at some point, but there is no firm commitment or timeline.
I personally will not be upgrading to Lollipop as I find that the tweaks made available by the Xposed Framework and the plethora of modules built for it, are simply too important me to lose by upgrading to what isn't all that radically different of an Android update.
But to each his own. Thought I'd give you a bit of the background.
P.S. Anything by Santod is quality work (NuSenseSix, UnSenseSix, etc). He really knows Android.
Nothing beats stock as far as stability. For newest, well, the newest official software is stock as well until VZW releases Lollipop.
Sacred cows make extra tasty steaks. That said, I'll make recommendations. I think Fluent is as reliable as the stock 4.4.4 and more so than some of the more radically tweaked 4.4.4 ROMs out there built from non-Verizon sources. NuSense is solid as well, but hasn't been updated in a while, is minimally modified, and is based on the oldest of the lollipop releases. if 4.4.4 is all you want, Clean ROM 3.0 was a solid runner for me.
If you can do your own mods then I would go with Lollipop as you don't need xposed if your looking for stable stick to 4.4.4 for now.. Make sure you upgrade your firmware before if you haven't as you r still on 4.4.2 ROM I'm taking a guess your haven't updated firmware.
Tigerstown said:
If you can do your own mods then I would go with Lollipop as you don't need xposed if your looking for stable stick to 4.4.4 for now.. Make sure you upgrade your firmware before if you haven't as you r still on 4.4.2 ROM I'm taking a guess your haven't updated firmware.
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What do you mean by doing your own mods? Short of coding them, I'm not sure how one would go about getting Samsung Milk to work, or cleaning up the Notification menu, or a bunch of other things that just aren't commonly built into customized ROMs. If you do know of a way to get such things working in Lollipop, do let me know - I'd then be able to make the switch!
godhamba said:
What do you mean by doing your own mods? Short of coding them, I'm not sure how one would go about getting Samsung Milk to work, or cleaning up the Notification menu, or a bunch of other things that just aren't commonly built into customized ROMs. If you do know of a way to get such things working in Lollipop, do let me know - I'd then be able to make the switch!
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I was just saying if you know how to decompile apks an make code changes an recompile your make your own mods.
Hey guys, you who used stock 5.1 and custom ROMS that are having the latest Android version (5.1.1): what differences do you notice?
As we all know 5.1.1 is the latest version which fixes the memory leak, and Moto is still a version behind on 5.1.1: stock only is Android 5.1.
How would you compare stock to the latest Android version with the latest bugfixes and memory leak fix?
Would it be possible that Moto backported 5.1.1 fixes to stock 5.1?
Can a moderator edit "bases ROM's" to "5.1.1-based custom ROMS? I made a typo
Sparubens said:
Hey guys, you who used stock 5.1 and custom ROMS that are having the latest Android version (5.1.1): what differences do you notice?
As we all know 5.1.1 is the latest version which fixes the memory leak, and Moto is still a version behind on 5.1.1: stock only is Android 5.1.
How would you compare stock to the latest Android version with the latest bugfixes and memory leak fix?
Would it be possible that Moto backported 5.1.1 fixes to stock 5.1?
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It is more a question of CM12.1 vs Stock ROM.
With the Stock Motorola Lollipop you have (at least in theory) a bug free ROM, it will work in every situation and scenarios.
Where with a custom ROM you will have more experimental features, a more tunable kernel and settings (that can either improve or break a ROM) and, to be honest, more support as they update almost every week where Motorola go very slow.
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It is more a question of CM12.1 vs Stock ROM.
With the Stock Motorola Lollipop you have (at least in theory) a bug free ROM, it will work in every situation and scenarios.
Where with a custom ROM you will have more experimental features, a more tunable kernel and settings (that can either improve or break a ROM) and, to be honest, more support as they update almost every week where Motorola go very slow.
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Yeah that's true. I was just wondering if the 5.1 version still has the memory leak which was resolved in 5.1.1. Also, CM12 based roms don't support notification tickers anymore, not even through Xposed so that's a bit pity too. But they do have features you can't find in stock or Xposed.
Just wondering which ROM gives the best performance, CM12 or optimized stock or just plain AOSP without any tweaks.
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Yeah that's true. I was just wondering if the 5.1 version still has the memory leak which was resolved in 5.1.1. Also, CM12 based roms don't support notification tickers anymore, not even through Xposed so that's a bit pity too. But they do have features you can't find in stock or Xposed.
Just wondering which ROM gives the best performance, CM12 or optimized stock or just plain AOSP without any tweaks.
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I can't say if Motorola fix the Memory issue or not. I can say too that some CM12.1 ROMs did have memory issues even at 5.1.1 but i think all are gone now.
About performance, a custom ROM for sure will bring you that. I'm not a big fan of motorola "optimizations" for our devices, in fact i would say they don't do at all.
It all depends really, you could get stock 5.1 with moggy kernel v12 which is very smooth being a linaro based kernel with other optimizations as well. (I was running that earlier today)
But you could also get a custom ROM such as blisspop. Which is very very poorly developed on our device.
A ROM that the developer uses as a daily driver is likely to be better than stock. However you'll find ROMs such as BlissPop where the developer does not run the ROM on our device and merely syncs with latest sources and uploads the builds without testing them first.
Those ROMs are likely to provide worse performance and definitely less stability than stock. Unless of course you flash a custom kernel over it, but then you've just got a sugar coated turd. And nobody wants a turd.
Sent from my XT1045 running CM 12.1 7/23 build with Optimus Kernel R38 using XDA Free mobile app
Travisholt92 said:
It all depends really, you could get stock 5.1 with moggy kernel v12 which is very smooth being a linaro based kernel with other optimizations as well. (I was running that earlier today)
But you could also get a custom ROM such as blisspop. Which is very very poorly developed on our device.
A ROM that the developer uses as a daily driver is likely to be better than stock. However you'll find ROMs such as BlissPop where the developer does not run the ROM on our device and merely syncs with latest sources and uploads the builds without testing them first.
Those ROMs are likely to provide worse performance and definitely less stability than stock. Unless of course you flash a custom kernel over it, but then you've just got a sugar coated turd. And nobody wants a turd.
Sent from my XT1045 running CM 12.1 7/23 build with Optimus Kernel R38 using XDA Free mobile app
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YEs that is true, also there are some ROMs that are much more experimental then stable.
So a research would be need.
That being said, stock is always the safest bet but a nice custom ROM will be superior if he find one.
I'm personally very happy with Euphoria and the R35 version of the Optimus Kernel.
But you (@Sparubens ) would need to flash all the roms to find the one who fit you better, stock and non stock
It's worth considering the difference in Battery-life of Stock Firmware / ROMs in comparison to non-Stock custom ROMs. That could be an interesting thread.
Pupet_Master said:
YEs that is true, also there are some ROMs that are much more experimental then stable.
So a research would be need.
That being said, stock is always the safest bet but a nice custom ROM will be superior if he find one.
I'm personally very happy with Euphoria and the R35 version of the Optimus Kernel.
But you (@Sparubens ) would need to flash all the roms to find the one who fit you better, stock and non stock
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I did flash almost every ROM here but there always seems to be an issue:
-CM12.1 is stable and fast, but doesn't have 4 tiles per row option in QS Settings and doesn't support notification ticker anymore (Xposed), SaberMod is smooth (Beeto) but there's a bug where you can't access SuperSU without dialing a code
- SlimROM wasn't a good experience when trying it to use as daily driver, sluggish and bad multitasking
- CM12.1 based ROMS like CrDroid and Euphoria I do really like, have some bugs like screen pinning causing reboot (CrDroid) and also no real Xposed support for CrDroid and Euphoria doesn't register all touches on the keyboard and makes my phone a bit hot, otherwise I would be very happy to have it as a daily driver, AICP was running okayish but there's been a bug for over a month that when opening the data quick menu, the percentage is misaligned, and it still hasn't been fixed.
- Stock 5.1 is nice, but it's a version behind 5.1.1 so that's not very nice either. Also heavily lacking in options, but I can use Xposed. Also there are 2 carrier labels on the lockscreen which makes no sense at all..
Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest. Sadly there seem to be some quirks with every ROM.
I'm ready to make compromises and have a ROM as daily driver which doesn't support notification ticker (basically all of them atm) but then there's also the torch issue sadly which pushes me more back to stock. But then again, nobody knows if stock still has the memory leak and opinions have been very different from person to person about stock 5.1.
Some interesting opinions over here, keep 'em coming!
@lost101 I personally think that there's no custom ROM that can match the battery life of stock, it has been impressive, surely on Lollipop.
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Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest.
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A solution for this problem seems not to be far away
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62028617&postcount=155
Sparubens said:
I did flash almost every ROM here but there always seems to be an issue:
-CM12.1 is stable and fast, but doesn't have 4 tiles per row option in QS Settings and doesn't support notification ticker anymore (Xposed), SaberMod is smooth (Beeto) but there's a bug where you can't access SuperSU without dialing a code
- SlimROM wasn't a good experience when trying it to use as daily driver, sluggish and bad multitasking
- CM12.1 based ROMS like CrDroid and Euphoria I do really like, have some bugs like screen pinning causing reboot (CrDroid) and also no real Xposed support for CrDroid and Euphoria doesn't register all touches on the keyboard and makes my phone a bit hot, otherwise I would be very happy to have it as a daily driver, AICP was running okayish but there's been a bug for over a month that when opening the data quick menu, the percentage is misaligned, and it still hasn't been fixed.
- Stock 5.1 is nice, but it's a version behind 5.1.1 so that's not very nice either. Also heavily lacking in options, but I can use Xposed. Also there are 2 carrier labels on the lockscreen which makes no sense at all..
Also, in custom ROMS the torch doesn't seem to be functioning fully, the light density is not at it fullest. Sadly there seem to be some quirks with every ROM.
I'm ready to make compromises and have a ROM as daily driver which doesn't support notification ticker (basically all of them atm) but then there's also the torch issue sadly which pushes me more back to stock. But then again, nobody knows if stock still has the memory leak and opinions have been very different from person to person about stock 5.1.
Some interesting opinions over here, keep 'em coming!
@lost101 I personally think that there's no custom ROM that can match the battery life of stock, it has been impressive, surely on Lollipop.
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That's why we have a lot of roms outthere, everyone can choose what match better with everyone, if you want something without issues choose stock, but don't have the optimizations options, if you prefer the options, choose the one you consider is better, but always have to sacrifice something
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Because the best for me was SuperMan ROM is End of Life I want change for ROM what have actualizations.
I Don't want ROM based on Lineage OS - I dont like this ROMs
I looking ROM based on stock ROM. I don't need much futures and configuration
I looking Rom what have bookmark/additional screen with UpDay app, where I can change top bar (side of the clock, what is in top bar etc.), fingerprint unlock after boot.
Is now ROM what can instead SuperMan ROM?
What ROM You recommend?
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Because the best for me was SuperMan ROM is End of Life I want change for ROM what have actualizations.
I looking ROM based on stock ROM. I don't need much futures and configuration
I looking Rom what have bookmark/additional screen with UpDay app, where I can change top bar (side of the clock, what is in top bar etc.), fingerprint unlock after boot.
Is now ROM what can instead SuperMan ROM?
What ROM You recommend?
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I've also used SuperMan-ROM, SuperMan-ROM was a rom with a lot customizations and tweaks that you could set to your own wishes. I don't think there is a rom available at this moment that provides the same customizations and tweakers that is not EOL.
At this moment I've installed LightRom. I've used it for 2 days now, runs great and haven't had any problems so far. I do miss some tweaks/customizations that were available on the SuperMan-ROM, but maybe that is just a matter of getting used to the new rom.
I've also tried LineageOS, but didn't liked it due to some bugs with calling in general and bluetooth music/calling.
The rom The Galaxy Project looks promising, but haven't had the change to try it out.
There are some more roms available but I didn't check them out yet, so I can not say anything about them. You can see a rom list for the Galaxy S7 here: Rom List
gonzolex said:
Because the best for me was SuperMan ROM is End of Life I want change for ROM what have actualizations.
I Don't want ROM based on Lineage OS - I dont like this ROMs
I looking ROM based on stock ROM. I don't need much futures and configuration
I looking Rom what have bookmark/additional screen with UpDay app, where I can change top bar (side of the clock, what is in top bar etc.), fingerprint unlock after boot.
Is now ROM what can instead SuperMan ROM?
What ROM You recommend?
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HI! Great post question, I am asking the same question. I WAS using Superman ROM and LOVED IT! but then EOL came out and security patches were OLD and scared me. My main use no with S7 is protecting it and prolonging its life span. So which ROM is best for:
1. De-bloated - enough of jam packing crap into a phone ppl dont need or want and not giving them a way to delete it for good!
2. Updated security patches
3. Maximum Performance
Is it possible to STILL use Superman ROM final edition and flash security patches?
Samsung has stopped the monthly security updates, so only quarterly security patches will be available. Also Samsung is not releasing Android 9 for the Galaxy S7.
For this, some developers are working on Note FE ports. The Note FE ported roms are based on Android 9 and do get their monthly security patches.
At this moment these Note FE ports are very populair: (keep in mind that there are more roms available and probably new ones will come)
NoteFE port - BlackDiamond
NoteFE port - LightRom
Always read the first post and see if you like the rom based of the description.
I think that LightRom is the most debloated rom. I've used LightRom before, it was a decent rom, but it felt like debloating meant replacing Samsung apps with Google apps. It was more battery efficient than the Samsung Stock ROM, but not by a alot.
I don't know which rom has more performance.
I'm going to try the BlackDiamond rom, it looks very promising. But in the end it is always personal preference, you should read the first post of a rom and see if you like it. If you do, you can test it and see if you really like it.
Superman ROM is End Of Life, so it doesn't get updated anymore. You can not flash security patches separately. If you want SupermanRom with the latest security patches, then you'll have to do all the merging/programming work yourself. Also one last thing, you ask for maximum performance, but Superman-ROM isn't maximum performance at all. It's only just a little debloated, basically removed some apps that can be downloaded from app store again. And it also has RomControl, which makes a rom customizable but slower and less battery efficient.