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I have installed the new game star blitz. But i have very low fps. How about you?
Good preformance but game is very boring. Much better is GunBross.... this is the same game but space looks poor .
Well in my case game is laggy. It has not more than 15fps. Gun bros runs perfect...
Yup, it's not smooth, maybe 25fps. By the way the game is boooring.
Well anyway right now the game is not playable
try zoom to fit the screen (HC 3.2) if it's available, should boost your fps (in any games).
zoom is not aviable. Well it is bad optimilisation so we will have to wait for a patch
i dont understand how everyone always knows what their FPS are. are you guessing? or do you have an app that allows you to see your current FPS somewhere on your screen?
i know there are benchmark apps that show you your FPS in that benchmark but in specific games where people magically know they get 15 FPS, how do you see those numbers?
there is nothing to understand. Below 20 fps you can feel that the game is not smooth. I wrote 15 fps just as an example to show that the game is not smooth enough. I do not know maybe it is 16 or 18. Anyway it is not the way it should be.
currently i have i8000 and i'd like to buy an android phone. my favourite is nexus s (i am also considering an atrix 4G, but it's more expensive than nexus s - about 25%, and it's much harder to find where i live).
i have a few questions for nexus s users:
-how are you satisfied with your battery life, can it last the whole day with moderate use (1-2 hours wi-fi, 1-2 hours video, half an hour- 1 hour gaming, a little bit reading, a few short calls)?
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
-can you normally play tegra games with chainfire, how is the performance?
-can you play mpg, flv, mkv videos?
-any other comment/opinion will be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance.
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
working with nice fps.. without laggs..
pike888 said:
currently i have i8000 and i'd like to buy an android phone. my favourite is nexus s (i am also considering an atrix 4G, but it's more expensive than nexus s - about 25%, and it's much harder to find where i live).
i have a few questions for nexus s users:
-how are you satisfied with your battery life, can it last the whole day with moderate use (1-2 hours wi-fi, 1-2 hours video, half an hour- 1 hour gaming, a little bit reading, a few short calls)?
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
-can you normally play tegra games with chainfire, how is the performance?
-can you play mpg, flv, mkv videos?
-any other comment/opinion will be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance.
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It does all that, except maybe mkv playback (depends on quality).
But, if you don't have it yet, then don't buy it. I see no reason why you would get this phone in this day and age.
Most of us here have it for more than a half a year, when it was still competitive.
Now you could easily get a dual core phone for a reasonable price. Event the Galaxy S Plus would be a better choice.
Just saying... This phone is almost dead. It's towards the end of it's support period from Google, which hasn't been great so far and it's just hardware. It gets old.
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It does all that, except maybe mkv playback (depends on quality).
But, if you don't have it yet, then don't buy it. I see no reason why you would get this phone in this day and age.
Most of us here have it for more than a half a year, when it was still competitive.
Now you could easily get a dual core phone for a reasonable price. Event the Galaxy S Plus would be a better choice.
Just saying... This phone is almost dead. It's towards the end of it's support period from Google, which hasn't been great so far and it's just hardware. It gets old.
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well, if it does all that it's good enough for me.
for various factors (price, availability, me not wanting an amoled screen), my choice is limited to these:
-nexus s - for now, it's more likely my next phone
-optimus 2x - horrible battery life
-incredible s - seems fine, but as i read, nexus s is a little better (and cheaper)
-se xperia arc - similar to incredible s
-atrix 4g - nice, but most expensive of the bunch, and pretty hard to find
there are many video apks, free and paid, that play mkv video files.
Nexus s
Battery life is good, it last a whole day with a moderate use if u use a custom rom+kernel (my case).
Performance is very nice for a single-core smartphone, it runs gta3, asphalt 6, 9mm, nfs shift, and overs very smoothly.
In general i'm really enjoying the nexus s.
-how are you satisfied with your battery life, can it last the whole day with moderate use (1-2 hours wi-fi, 1-2 hours video, half an hour- 1 hour gaming, a little bit reading, a few short calls)?
-how does it work with graphically intensive games like shadowgun, backstab, 9mm...?
-can you normally play tegra games with chainfire, how is the performance?
-can you play mpg, flv, mkv videos?
-any other comment/opinion will be greatly appreciated.
1- I am satisfied with the battery life! but I would recommend rooting the nexuss and flash a new rom where you can customize the cpu and voltge.
2/3/4-I don't have a lot of games but for playing movies and videos it work great!
I just bought mine last month and I am very satisfied specially coming from an iphone 3gs!
Root it and it turns into a baby galaxy nexus
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i've had a chance to try nexus s, and i wasn't impressed.
the phone isn't rooted, runs ics, everything is on stock.
-i tried browsing the web, and it was pretty fine.
-720p .mkv video (in mx player) is too choppy to watch.
-i downloaded two free games from the market - asphalt 6 and gameloft real football 2012.
asphalt 6 lags like hell. it was a slideshow, not more than 2FPS.
real football 2012 worked significantly better, but it wasn't playable too; every few seconds it slows down, and after a second or two, it starts working normally.
would rooting/custom rom&kernel improve situation significantly?
For graphic intensive games, my nexus s ran shadowgun, backstab, gta3, and samurai2. Except for gta3, they all run without a hiccup and damn smooth. But I've had some hiccups with gta3. Also running a custom rom and custom kernel is much more better than stock in every way.
PS : For videos try "Dice player" in market. It is the best video player for nexus s and even the dev of diceplayer owns nexus s.
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i've had a chance to try nexus s, and i wasn't impressed.
the phone isn't rooted, runs ics, everything is on stock.
-i tried browsing the web, and it was pretty fine.
-720p .mkv video (in mx player) is too choppy to watch.
-i downloaded two free games from the market - asphalt 6 and gameloft real football 2012.
asphalt 6 lags like hell. it was a slideshow, not more than 2FPS.
real football 2012 worked significantly, but it wasn't playable too; every few seconds it slows down, and after a second or two, it starts working normally.
would rooting/custom rom&kernel improve situation significantly?
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Asphalt 6 runs smooth as butter on my stock 2.3.6. Something is horribly wrong with the phone you used.
I also recently got a "new" nexus S and I dont see anything wrong with it. No dual core phone was near the price and in my opinion nexus S is better than the likes of incredible S, xperia arc etc.
and what do you think could be wrong with the phone i tried?
it couldn't be faulty hardware, right?
good phone
It's definitely a good phone for games. You can run games like asphalt 6, GTA 3, NFS or Counter strike portable whith high FPS (45-55). About the game 9mm, I wasn't able to play it because it was with to much lag, so much lag that was impossible to play. I'm in stock ICS. I do recomend that you buy a dual core phone if you're a gamming guy.
Today I had some stutters in Asphalt 6 so maybe it has something to do with background processes. My homescreen had certainly grown with more widgets since the last time I played it.
But I agree if you are very serious about gaming then you may wanna consider something better. What I can tell you is that if nexus S cant play something smoothly then neither would any other single core phone since we have the best GPU of all single core phones.
You could look into samsung galaxy R or the upcoming galaxy S advance. Both phones have one weird limitation with gaming, you can only use 3.5GB for storage of games so you could potentially only have 4-5 HD games before that space maxes out doesnt matter if you have 32GB card. You have to root the phone to bypass this limitation.
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Today I had some stutters in Asphalt 6 so maybe it has something to do with background processes. My homescreen had certainly grown with more widgets since the last time I played it.
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I have the same experience, runs very smooth when i turn off al other apps and widgets
Don't use the market version of asphalt 6. Use the tegra 2 version instead coz I didn't get intensive lag afterwards.
It's out!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftRAHM
Good-bye Real Racing 3, maybe? We'll see
It's downloading to my Xperia Play as we speak, check this place for updates.
UPDATE: So, the game is XPO and shows in the launcher.
I have a mixed feeling about the performance though. You can pick one of the three settings : BEST VISUALS/BEST PERFORMANCE/OPTIMAL. The game defaulted to OPTIMAL but I was shocked how bad the frame rate was, so I changed to BEST PERFORMANCE but it's still not very good. But I am on stock ROM with no overclock so... They are trying to force this horrible free to play model down you throat, always bugging you to spend that precious green currency to upgrade you car and stuff like that .
As for visuals and the 'driving feel', Real Racing 3 is still the king, even without support for XP controls.
This game is not bad, but doesn't seem so addictive that I'd be investing countless hours into it like I've been with RR3.
Also, music is horrible but that's something I've got used to with Gameloft.
I'd recommend this game only if your device can play it fluently, as mine can't.
It looks so nice
Im actually playing Real Racing 3 so i'll try that alternative
It also have low framerate on ICS rom, even on perfomance settings (on stock speed, i didn't test it with overclock).
But it's XPO, touchpads also work. Not so memory-hungry as real racing 3, so it should work on heavy ics/jb roms.
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Where is the settings for graphics? I'm on GB (Gin2Kittkat) and there is nothing to set, so the framerate is terrible even with OC to 1,4GHz (my XP can't get higher cause freezing). I downloaded this game yesterday, must set controls to wheel+pedals (XP controller didn't show up) otherwise there was damn auto accel. It looks funny but unplayable on Xperia Play.
Using RAM Manager Pro at Hard Gaming somehow helps with the framerates. Running debloated Gin2JB v2.5.2, stock kernel.
Frame rate is atrocious on this game when other cars are on the screen, even on best performance.
I'll try it at 2.3ghz later when I reinstall extreme kernel! It runs smooth on max settings on my jxd so it cant be massively demanding!
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Frame rate is atrocious on this game when other cars are on the screen, even on best performance.
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Indeed. When on the lead, meaning no other cars on the screen, it runs fine. Also, lags are noticeable in areas where there are many buildings.
Dang, what's the point in making it XP controls-optimized but not ancient-chip-optimized? Oh, GL...
Miichaell said:
Where is the settings for graphics? I'm on GB (Gin2Kittkat) and there is nothing to set, so the framerate is terrible even with OC to 1,4GHz (my XP can't get higher cause freezing). I downloaded this game yesterday, must set controls to wheel+pedals (XP controller didn't show up) otherwise there was damn auto accel. It looks funny but unplayable on Xperia Play.
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You can choose Best perfomance or Best graphics.. just that
I set the game on Best Perfomance on Gin2KitKat (1.2Ghz OC) and its unplayable!
Anyone notice that some graphic intensive games stutter? I'm not talking about framerate. This also happens on my Z2 tablet.
Running the games side by side my LG G2, The G2 is noticeably smoother. Running benchmarks side by side, The G2 is smoother again, but The Z3 scores higher.
Current games I'm playing are:
Riptide GP 2
Dead trigger 2
Slingshot Braves
Update 07/09/2016: I'm now using a Z5 and experiencing the same. My old LG G2 is smoother.
shilent said:
Anyone notice that some graphic intensive games stutter? I'm not talking about framerate. This also happens on my Z2 tablet.
Running the games side by side my LG G2, The G2 is noticeably smoother. Running benchmarks side by side, The G2 is smoother again, but The Z3 scores higher.
Current games I'm playing are:
Riptide GP 2
Dead trigger 2
Slingshot Braves
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I havnt had any prolems so far. Ive play asphault 8, modern combat and GTA pretty flawlessly. Are you using heavy launchers? I also use a taskmanager to close everything prior to gaming. (ive done this with all my devices not just my z3)
I'm using the default launcher.
I'll Try Asphalt 8 later today.
Thanks.
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Must say I have not noticed stuttering like you mention, I will also try Asphalt 8 and see how it fairs.
My bench marks 3d is smooth, and my device on Antutu tops the 3d default scores.
I have though made a couple of tweaks.
Here they are and see if it helps;
Go to settings, click about phone 10 times (or until you become a developer)
Go into developer options
Go down to Hardware-Accelerated rendering
Tick force GPU rendering
And Disable HW overlays.
See how you go after that.
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Must say I have not noticed stuttering like you mention, I will also try Asphalt 8 and see how it fairs.
My bench marks 3d is smooth, and my device on Antutu tops the 3d default scores.
I have though made a couple of tweaks.
Here they are and see if it helps;
Go to settings, click about phone 10 times (or until you become a developer)
Go into developer options
Go down to Hardware-Accelerated rendering
Tick force GPU rendering
And Disable HW overlays.
See how you go after that.
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Force GPU rendering and Disabling HW overlays did not make a difference.
I just tried Asphalt 8 on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and my fiance's Z3 compact, and it stutters like crazy. Much more than Riptide GP 2. Don't get me wrong, the games are playable, but much more enjoyable on my older LG G2.
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It could be heat or game related, My LG G2 never stuttered either and the Z3 for me has stuttered only in PlayStore of all places but a restart fixed that.
Hey mate i have been scouring the net for an answer to exactly the same problem you are having. Virtually every game has some intermittent stuttering which is pretty consistently occuring every few seconds so as you say games are very playable but dont feel smooth.
I have tried asphalt 8, zen pinball, Pinball Arcade , real racing 3 and none feel completely smooth. I thought maybe that real racing 3 may have been too graphically intense for the z3 but after reading so many reports from other z3 users on how good the game played on their phones it made me start looking for a solution. Pinball arcade and zen really sealed the deal for me about maybe something wasnt quite right though as these 2 games should pose absolutely no problem for any modern device (my vita vetsion side by side looks much smoother) but the ball will stutter every so often too.
If you find a solution i would really like to know what you did as i am new to android and everything ive read to try hasnt helped.
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Hey mate i have been scouring the net for an answer to exactly the same problem you are having. Virtually every game has some intermittent stuttering which is pretty consistently occuring every few seconds so as you say games are very playable but dont feel smooth.
I have tried asphalt 8, zen pinball, Pinball Arcade , real racing 3 and none feel completely smooth. I thought maybe that real racing 3 may have been too graphically intense for the z3 but after reading so many reports from other z3 users on how good the game played on their phones it made me start looking for a solution. Pinball arcade and zen really sealed the deal for me about maybe something wasnt quite right though as these 2 games should pose absolutely no problem for any modern device (my vita vetsion side by side looks much smoother) but the ball will stutter every so often too.
If you find a solution i would really like to know what you did as i am new to android and everything ive read to try hasnt helped.
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Possibly it's related to the resolution. The Z3 has 1080 x 1920, whereas the ps vita is only 960 × 544; around a quarter of the size. I do think it's a weakness of modern phones; I'd be a lot happier with a lower resolution. It's not as if the S3 had any problems with its 720 x 1280. I think it's a bit like the megapixel race on DSLRs; bigger is better, and damn the other problems (noise, image size on cameras; speed, battery, asset storage space on phones).
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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shilent said:
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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I think the Sony ROM is running a more conservative setting or something because everything seems to be a little slow on the Z3. Battery saving method on Sony's part I assume.
Probably the kernel tuning. I've noticed it too.
Maybe Sony is more aggressive than LG with the thermal protection in the kernel. Even on the LG G2 if you disabled thermal protection it got rid of any stutters that were there, though not safe in the long run.
Guys do you think they will solve it by android L relase?
It will probably improve a bit because the new OS will be more efficient, and also better battery life.
shilent said:
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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Feel free to chuck up a video of the problem; I'm writing a game, so perhaps I could reproduce it if I had some idea what's causing it.
I remember having this problem with my Droid DNA when the Moto X rocking the same processor was smooth, regardless of framerate. Definitely firmware/video driver/kernel related. It can be most easily witnessed in games with a lot of scrolling or fluid motion, looking like a hitch or frame drop.
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Feel free to chuck up a video of the problem; I'm writing a game, so perhaps I could reproduce it if I had some idea what's causing it.
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Thanks. I'll get a video of the Z3 and G2 side by side running Riptide GP2 tonight.
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Ahh yes, i play asphalt 8 quite a bit, and while it doesn't lag, it definitely stutters a ton. I'm coming from an ascend mate 2 and even that runs it a bit better! i'm sure it all comes down to the heat/kernel settings. what's odd is when im playing need for speed, it's extremely smooth, but the phone definitely gets way hotter than it does when i play asphalt 8.
Sorry for the delay. My Canon camera crapped out on me. I ended up having to use my GoPro Hero3. Sorry for the image quality, GoPro sucks bad on everything except outdoor activities.
Top is LG G2 and bottom is Z3.
Edit: Youtube is horrible. I suggest downloading via Dropbox link.
http://youtu.be/8nyAUWBgpoM
Original file via Dropbox: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73364340/Riptide.mp4
In the LG G2 you could disable the Thermal throttling and manually set clock speed for thermal states in Trickster Kernel settings app. I suppose you could do the same here.
Just installed Dolphin on one of the Target demo units, and I am beyond surprised at how well it performs. The S7 didn't even come close to this. Not by a long shot. Check it out!
mrcobra92 said:
Just installed Dolphin on one of the Target demo units, and I am beyond surprised at how well it performs. The S7 didn't even come close to this. Not by a long shot. Check it out!
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Video doesn't work.
pedodroid said:
Video doesn't work.
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Had an issue with the first video, link is fixed but it will take about an hour for the video to finish re-uploading.
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Had an issue with the first video, link is fixed but it will take about an hour for the video to finish re-uploading.
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Cool! Dolphin has been my daily driver for a long time...
The video still isn't working...
You can watch the video on youtube. just search for S8 dolphin emulator. It runs realy good on the S8!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu1oDLTuL-k
Side note: How old does that S7 look already?
Pretty cool! Thanks for the share.
hey great vid. I tried running dolphin 5.0-3609 on my s8+ international but its super slow. any particular setting changes? or is it because its not using snapdragon? Thanks
Exynos version doesn't have driver support. Look at Dolphin's twitter account, they explained why it doesn't work.
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So am I reading this correct and seeing that snapdragon on THIS emulator will perform better then Exynos?
I don't know, I have the snapdragon version and it's incredibly glitchy on the few games I've tried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7PsfCsi_Yk
Mali G71 is very powerful but not optimized enough
I hope future custom rom can do something regarding that issue.
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Exynos version doesn't have driver support. Look at Dolphin's twitter account, they explained why it doesn't work.
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thanks for the heads up. do you have a link? thank you
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https://twitter.com/Dolphin_Emu/status/855366890276794369 twitter link if anybody wanted to read
I think the OP of this was excited and exaggerated the results, or jumping to conclusions. I have tested Dolphin with different settings on two S8+ devices with same results. Games start out playing smooth and then a few minutes to ten minutes later, stutter starts due to throttling. I would LOVE the 835 chipset in the Shield TV, since blows the X1 away for performance. Just needs the fan and better heat dissipation a set-top box provides. I tested Mario Kart, Need For Speed, Mario Galaxy, Mortal Kombat Deception, Soul Calibur 2, Smugglers Road, ATV 2, Crash Racing, F-Zero, Burn Out Racing 2, etc. Same result: Starts out playing smooth and then stuttering shortly afterwards. Did not matter with newer versions, resolution settings, clock, etc. I have been testing since launch of the 8+, so a lot of time (too much really).
The S8 / 835 with Dolphin is basically a five to ten minute wonder. Would have been cool if smoothness lasted longer. The good news is intense games that are stuttery messes on the 820/821 are smooth on the 835 in MAME 139. Dead Or Alive + and Plasma Sword are examples. Smooth with no throttling like with Dolphin.
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I think the OP of this was excited and exaggerated the results, or jumping to conclusions. I have tested Dolphin with different settings on two S8+ devices with same results. Games start out playing smooth and then a few minutes to ten minutes later, stutter starts due to throttling. I would LOVE the 835 chipset in the Shield TV, since blows the X1 away for performance. Just needs the fan and better heat dissipation a set-top box provides. I tested Mario Kart, Need For Speed, Mario Galaxy, Mortal Kombat Deception, Soul Calibur 2, Smugglers Road, ATV 2, Crash Racing, F-Zero, Burn Out Racing 2, etc. Same result: Starts out playing smooth and then stuttering shortly afterwards. Did not matter with newer versions, resolution settings, clock, etc. I have been testing since launch of the 8+, so a lot of time (too much really).
The S8 / 835 with Dolphin is basically a five to ten minute wonder. Would have been cool if smoothness lasted longer. The good news is intense games that are stuttery messes on the 820/821 are smooth on the 835 in MAME 139. Dead Or Alive + and Plasma Sword are examples. Smooth with no throttling like with Dolphin.
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Is this still true in July 2017? Saw a bunch of videos where it appears it is working, but they might also be just "5-10 minutes" wonder. Just checking to see if anything has changed in nearly 2 months.
Thanks!