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[Q] Mate 7 VS. Nexus 6 😕

Hi guys,
I'm thinking about changing my mate 7 to nexus 6 64g.b, do you think its a good choice? And which one is better? I want to handle lolipop device, and I found that mate7 is a little bit laggy comparing to other devices I had before like htc one m8 and the note 3... and is there any phablet that you advice me to buy?

depends on what's more important to you.
To me, 4000mah battery + slim design/bezel + cheap price >>> nexus 6.
I'm not a heavy gamer so for my day to day stuff, i the kirin 925 is just perfect and ive experienced no lag whatsoever. Plus, lollipop is rolling out in the new couple of months so I cant complain.

the question is what is your budget and what you need from your phone. If budget is not a problem for you go for the besy phones out there. The ham7 is for a niche of people who knows what its not the best phone but embraces the best quality of it. The screen, thinness and slim design, battery and scanner to name a very few. But if you want more processing power, custom roms, more tweaking and more dev support the ham7 is not for you bro.

I really recomend mate 7 nexuses are all crap ... very poor batt. weird , especially nexus 6 ..
get M7 ...

The poor battery life on the nexus is no excuse for stock android, it's just plain embarrassing. I'm hard core android, but if the device has no stamina, no fun. Btw the ham 7 does have performance mode too, plus sd card support.
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first, Thank you for replying
And actually I'm have mate 7, and as I told you I'm bored of sticking on stock rom, I need more mods and tweaks. you may find this silly, but the white color of the notification panel is really annoying me!
Is there any cons except the battery? Do I have any options other than the Nexus 6?

Mate 7 is better, I've had many devices before the mate 7 such as note 4 and the mate 7 is more snapier I don't find it lag at all and I play games such as fifa15 and real racing 3 ect and it performs perfectly I don't have any complaints apart from speaker could be better and earphone output could be louder that is all!
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MohammadZkert said:
first, Thank you for replying
And actually I'm have mate 7, and as I told you I'm bored of sticking on stock rom, I need more mods and tweaks. you may find this silly, but the white color of the notification panel is really annoying me!
Is there any cons except the battery? Do I have any options other than the Nexus 6?
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Thanks OP Here's what my rundown has been - cause I prefer at least 6 inch devices - preferably powerful
Crossing a certain age number has done a number on my near vision - and hence at least 6 inches keeps me in the game.
1- Nexus 6 Battery life - Plenty of ROMS if you want to play - but remember you're always fixing the device - i.e. updating, programs troubleshooting - and never have a stable enough device IMHO - now if your life and time allows AMEN - but mine has not anymore.
2- T-MO Note 4 - On Cyanogenmod great device - great battery life - smaller size - the CM has bugs, poor battery life - no finger print scanner support. So I sold the device.
3- I have looked at the REDMI Note - Not too sure that's a good enough device.
4- Sony Z ultra - or Xperia Z Ultra (first is GPE, 2nd is Not) - If you care for the device - ditch GPE - there's more work on Sony Xperia Z Ultra - magnificient device - and has CM12 support
5- WIndows Lumia 1520 I have not held better hardware in my hand - ditched after 1 day - very poor app market. WInodws will never catch up - PERIOD.
6- Asus Zenfone 2 - 64 GB 4 GB - top of the line - does not go 8 hours on my usage ( I run a ton of back ground apps ) - the hardware was OK - but that's that - it was remarkably fast sold it immediately - Cannot live with that bloody battery life anymore.
I am from Android 2.1 onwards - and also CM 7 onwards - so I have been on this bandwagon long enough - I am recently questioning the worth of Stock Cyanogenmod - other than Hard Core Enthusiasts - cause the devices we're now running - even HAM 2 - has powerful enough hardware to get the job done - So while we do not get better battery life or better features even at the Cyanogenmod - We do get bugs - unlimited updates - one breaking what the other fixed - and the phone's like an old car that I spend more time under than over. So for my time and dime - I am spending less and less time on the development front.
Currenty Running HAM 2 - there's never been a problem the stock device has not solved - cannot beat the battery life, no it's not the latest or the greatest - but gets the job more than done with minimal disappointments Sorry long answer - thanx for reading if you made it this far Tell us what if you find anything else.

vimto25 said:
Mate 7 is better, I've had many devices before the mate 7 such as note 4 and the mate 7 is more snapier I don't find it lag at all and I play games such as fifa15 and real racing 3 ect and it performs perfectly I don't have any complaints apart from speaker could be better and earphone output could be louder that is all!
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Hi that note 4 you can confirm me has darker screen has it ? Mate 7 is brighter is it ?
Exactly Mate 7 is snappiest phone I ever had .. all prev. phones are laggy ..
I am testing LG G3 and is sooo laggy

Okay then! I think I will wait until HTC release a big screen mobile phone , cause after a lot of testings, I found that they are the have the strongest build and the best interface.
Thank you all for participating , and thank you badrsj for you long reply

MohammadZkert said:
Okay then! I think I will wait until HTC release a big screen mobile phone , cause after a lot of testings, I found that they are the have the strongest build and the best interface.
Thank you all for participating , and thank you badrsj for you long reply
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HTC would've gotten my money had they brought a new 6" One Max alongside the new One M9. But apparently they think there is no market for devices larger than 5.5" ... idiots.

MohammadZkert said:
first, Thank you for replying
And actually I'm have mate 7, and as I told you I'm bored of sticking on stock rom, I need more mods and tweaks. you may find this silly, but the white color of the notification panel is really annoying me!
Is there any cons except the battery? Do I have any options other than the Nexus 6?
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This better?
Changes depending on your wallpaper.

vonotny said:
HTC would've gotten my money had they brought a new 6" One Max alongside the new One M9. But apparently they think there is no market for devices larger than 5.5" ... idiots.
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yeah .. HTC is going down... I liked One X and M7 that's it..

MUG3NHC said:
This better?
Changes depending on your wallpaper.
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It seems geart!! could you give me a link?? Please
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Simona Simmy said:
yeah .. HTC is going down... I liked One X and M7 that's it..
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Check this out!! I know its 5.5' , but still HTC!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_e9+-7111.php

MUG3NHC said:
This better?
Changes depending on your wallpaper.
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Is this somehow related to the Designs? I never saw anything like this happen when I changed the wallpaper.

MohammadZkert said:
It seems geart!! could you give me a link?? Please
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Check this out!! I know its 5.5' , but still HTC!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_e9+-7111.php
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vonotny said:
Is this somehow related to the Designs? I never saw anything like this happen when I changed the wallpaper.
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Its a theme. If I remember correctly, it is called Tyrant Gold or sth.
You can find it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/themes-apps/collection-stock-themes-p7-p6-honor-6-t2909531

MohammadZkert said:
It seems geart!! could you give me a link?? Please
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Check this out!! I know its 5.5' , but still HTC!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_e9+-7111.php
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Bleee don't like it..

MohammadZkert said:
first, Thank you for replying
And actually I'm have mate 7, and as I told you I'm bored of sticking on stock rom, I need more mods and tweaks. you may find this silly, but the white color of the notification panel is really annoying me!
Is there any cons except the battery? Do I have any options other than the Nexus 6?
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Here is a black theme for you. Just paste in the themes folder. I downloaded the 4gb themes from the other thread. so i have a lot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owzf7uaj8aqcbeq/Dark_Bloom_p6.hwt?dl=0

easy computer said:
here is a black theme for you. Just paste in the themes folder. I downloaded the 4gb themes from the other thread. So i have a lot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owzf7uaj8aqcbeq/dark_bloom_p6.hwt?dl=0
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thank you! A lot!! :d

I have other themes that are nice.but if you are using a launcher. It wont make sense. Enjoy bro.

Should I buy Galaxy S6 ?

I am looking to buy a new smartphone. I am confused between LG G4 and Galaxy S6 (32 GB). What is your advice? I am hesitating to buy GS6 because of limited storage.

Delucifer Khan said:
I am looking to buy a new smartphone. I am confused between LG G4 and Galaxy S6 (32 GB). What is your advice? I am hesitating to buy GS6 because of limited storage.
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so if you buy 64/128gb model you think wont be enough ? get a mx5 pro , perfect in every aspect . i wish one day someone make a rom full 1080p support bcoze in 5.1" 1440p its to much

lummujaj said:
so if you buy 64/128gb model you think wont be enough ? get a mx5 pro , perfect in every aspect . i wish one day someone make a rom full 1080p support bcoze in 5.1" 1440p its to much
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65/128 gb will be out of my budget. I will look into mx5

Delucifer Khan said:
65/128 gb will be out of my budget. I will look into mx5
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I said mx5 PRO... not just mx5 ... also consider the oneplus two. Its cheap model with high end specs. Asus zenfone 2 another one.

S6 is an awesome phone and software wise will get better! Yes 32gb is low-ish but it's perfect for me though as I have the luxury of my music on about old iPhone!
Take a look at an S6 up close and see if you like what you see but if storage is an issue as a previous poster mentioned the one plus 2 is supposed to be good. My line manager is eying that one up next with a sim only deal ?
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UMIDIGI S2 Pro

Has anyone started to work on ROM for this phone, looking at the spec of this phone looks promising, it has a large battery capacity which is great but look at battery test for this phone it looks like stock software is not optimized, so just wondering if the community is willing to help optimize or any advise

Bi1a11979 said:
Has anyone started to work on ROM for this phone, looking at the spec of this phone looks promising, it has a large battery capacity which is great but look at battery test for this phone it looks like stock software is not optimized, so just wondering if the community is willing to help optimize or any advise
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the review of low configuration umidigi S2 you can see on Youtube

I've got the regular S2 for a couple of weeks now. It's a good phone with some downsides. Camera is not fantastic but good enough for everyday stuff. If you want amazing photos buy a flagship. Proximity sensor doesn't turn off screen properly while in a call, maybe fixed in future version. One of the major networks in Germany does not work for mobile data in most cases (O2 and Eplus joined and the phone can't handle the "data roaming").
Tech support is non existant. They will point you to their half chinese forums with barely any members that is spammed with press releases. Posting takes dozens of "money" that you must unlock with posts. Very unprofessional but maybe expected for such a relatively small company. There are no service addresses for repairs and the accessories market for that phone is very very limited. Barely any cases or screen protectors out there. If you break anything on this phone expect to get a new one. I have not tried yet but to get replacement parts for this seems near impossible at this point.
Other than that, screen is great for the resolution. Battery life is absolutely brilliant. I can get through a full day with using <40% battery and it lasts easily 3+ days on pure standby.
Wifi has become much better I think after the last firmware update. They are updating the phone but I wonder for how long. This is not a manufacturer that can or wants to support all of it's devices like big ones do.
Materials are good, maybe a bit slippery in the hands but all microblasted aluminium phones are like that.
Screen has a <1mm bezel between the side of the phone and the display surface but I don't care about that.
Build, to me, feels very good. Fingerprint sensor works well and fast. Android is 6.0.1 but I hope they will have an update to 7 or 8 at some point.
I don't care about benchmarks so I can't talk about that, my apps work well. Video streaming is fluid. No idea about 3D gaming I don't use my phone for that.
For that price it's a great phone imho.

Have just pre-ordered this device. Will wait to see what comes, hopefully able to unlock the bootloader and remove any bloatware that comes pre-installed.

It exist a custom rom for s2? I'd like
It has poor camera, other things are very good
What kind of custom could fix in it? Paranoid android?

esclusoilcane said:
It has poor camera, other things are very good
What kind of custom could fix in it? Paranoid android?
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Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
I don't have Umidigi S2 to test but I'm very interested by the S2 Pro.
Perhaps it is possible to install Lenovo SNAPit Camera in order to improve the photos by flashing it with TWRP ? :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-lenovo-snapit-camera-redmi-note-4-t3608065

Does it support volt in india (to call using jio)

PJKO said:
Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
I don't have Umidigi S2 to test but I'm very interested by the S2 Pro.
Perhaps it is possible to install Lenovo SNAPit Camera in order to improve the photos by flashing it with TWRP ? :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-lenovo-snapit-camera-redmi-note-4-t3608065
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This post was a cut and paste from another phone.
Now the link for the custom recovery is available. I will probably give it a try just to be able to root the phone.
As of today, there is no available custom ROM available for the umidigi s2, although you can find posts on how to revert back to the stock ROM. Those posts are also just cut and pasted from other phones sharing the same cpu
Sent from my S2 using Tapatalk

mine is out for delivery on the 23/11 not bad delivery from gearbest HK to UK ordered 16/11 shipped 18/11 dhl express paid £5-70 then a further £26 import duties from dhl , Reg S2 hopefully shipping with android 7.0 buy now but doubtful , hope the phone gets it's own section in the development department ,,
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Does this phone have NFC?

PJKO said:
Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
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I just tried that and while the recovery installs my phone wouldn't boot afterwards. Maybe because I have the main partition encrypted but maybe for another reason.
Also for me the screen was flipped 180 degrees probably due to a backwards display in this phone.

hellrokr said:
Does this phone have NFC?
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I think only pro has nfc I don't see it on mine
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DoobyDroid said:
I think only pro has nfc I don't see it on mine
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Could not find it anywhere. Nowhere is it mentioned even for the pro version.

r0ckarong said:
I just tried that and while the recovery installs my phone wouldn't boot afterwards. Maybe because I have the main partition encrypted but maybe for another reason.
Also for me the screen was flipped 180 degrees probably due to a backwards display in this phone.
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Still early days I wouldn't personally try it but I'm sure in time this phone will get Dev support , I had some feed back from umi on there FB page regarding update to 7/8 they said there waiting on MediaTek's to release source or sdk as this P20 chip was built around Android 6 at the time and the P25 around 7 that's why pro ships with 7 that's what they said , also mentioned an update coming with a week but more likely bug patch still on Jan 2017 security , not the best look on a 2017 phone 2015 os
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hellrokr said:
Could not find it anywhere. Nowhere is it mentioned even for the pro version.
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I'm sure I read somewhere some regions got nfc how true that is
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I personally would consider it for a next phone, though I'm not sure if the TWRP image for the S2 works on the S2 pro.

r0ckarong said:
I've got the regular S2 for a couple of weeks now. It's a good phone with some downsides. Camera is not fantastic but good enough for everyday stuff. If you want amazing photos buy a flagship. Proximity sensor doesn't turn off screen properly while in a call, maybe fixed in future version. One of the major networks in Germany does not work for mobile data in most cases (O2 and Eplus joined and the phone can't handle the "data roaming").
Tech support is non existant. They will point you to their half chinese forums with barely any members that is spammed with press releases. Posting takes dozens of "money" that you must unlock with posts. Very unprofessional but maybe expected for such a relatively small company. There are no service addresses for repairs and the accessories market for that phone is very very limited. Barely any cases or screen protectors out there. If you break anything on this phone expect to get a new one. I have not tried yet but to get replacement parts for this seems near impossible at this point.
Other than that, screen is great for the resolution. Battery life is absolutely brilliant. I can get through a full day with using <40% battery and it lasts easily 3+ days on pure standby.
Wifi has become much better I think after the last firmware update. They are updating the phone but I wonder for how long. This is not a manufacturer that can or wants to support all of it's devices like big ones do.
Materials are good, maybe a bit slippery in the hands but all microblasted aluminium phones are like that.
Screen has a <1mm bezel between the side of the phone and the display surface but I don't care about that.
Build, to me, feels very good. Fingerprint sensor works well and fast. Android is 6.0.1 but I hope they will have an update to 7 or 8 at some point.
I don't care about benchmarks so I can't talk about that, my apps work well. Video streaming is fluid. No idea about 3D gaming I don't use my phone for that.
For that price it's a great phone imho.
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Hi
Please check and correct me If I am wrong. According to UMI claimed that the first batch of S2 v1 come with non up gradable processor and hence, you can only maintain at Marshmallow version ie. Android 6 while S2 v2 (so called 2nd batch) can be upgraded to Android 7 (no idea to Android 8???). So guys, please check directly with UMI on this issue. I am thinking of getting the S2 Pro but would like UMI to confirm whether same issue with S2 v1 ???? Cheer s -

NDbluewee said:
Hi
Please check and correct me If I am wrong. According to UMI claimed that the first batch of S2 v1 come with non up gradable processor and hence, you can only maintain at Marshmallow version ie. Android 6 while S2 v2 (so called 2nd batch) can be upgraded to Android 7 (no idea to Android 8???). So guys, please check directly with UMI on this issue. I am thinking of getting the S2 Pro but would like UMI to confirm whether same issue with S2 v1 ???? Cheer s -
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I did get sim info from umi regarding diff chips that are built on certain version of Android v1 Android 6 V2 Android 7 they won't answer the question weather V1 can update to 7 all I got was there waiting for MediaTek to release source but unless big demand that will very unlikely happen as they have no need to probably
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DoobyDroid said:
I did get sim info from umi regarding diff chips that are built on certain version of Android v1 Android 6 V2 Android 7 they won't answer the question weather V1 can update to 7 all I got was there waiting for MediaTek to release source but unless big demand that will very unlikely happen as they have no need to probably
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Below is the info extracted from Umidigi Forum lately .......
"Quote" They said the first batch of S2 will keep on Android 6 (there will be some updates, but nothing of update to Android 7). So the second batch of S2 and the S2 Pro will come with UMI OS Android 7. Anybody received handset with android 7.0 what date are the V2 or is that just referring to the Pro , mine is due 23/11 ordered 16/11 wondered if it will be V2 model with 7.0. Seems odd 2017 handset shipping with 2015 software .... Phone i received week ago got Android 6 so its V1. That will not work on the first v1 of Umidigi S2 sadly. It's made for MT6757D (S2 v2).
How ever there are phones out there already with MT6757 (Not MT6757D) will be on Android 7.0. "Unquote"
Hope this clear some of your thoughts. Thank you.

Bit of a con from umi
Won't be keeping it long then
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DoobyDroid said:
Bit of a con from umi
Won't be keeping it long then
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This is what I got the reply from UMI moderator
S2 version 1 coming with Android 6 and can't be updated to higher android version.
S2 version 2 will be coming with Umidigi OS based on Android 7. Further updates are not confirmed.
S2 pro is coming with Umidigi OS based on Android 7. Further updates are not confirmed.
:silly::fingers-crossed:

What phone did Moto G3 users move on to?

The Moto G3 forum has become very quiet. That must mean many moved on to another phone. I am curious of those who moved on to another low cost phone like the G3, what phone did they move to.

Redmi note 5 Global

Moto G5 plus

ArKy92 said:
Redmi note 5 Global
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Specs and cost all look good. It is a little big. I take it you like it. Do you have yours rooted? Something other than stock ROM.

M1810 said:
Moto G5 plus
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I have been waiting for the cost to drop on the Moto site. I can not find any 64/4GB versions on Amazon or Ebay.

MrTooPhone said:
Specs and cost all look good. It is a little big. I take it you like it. Do you have yours rooted? Something other than stock ROM.
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Yup I like it, at the start I thought that it was too big but now it is comfortable (I have big hands anyway). I'm using Android P gsi (pixel experience) and it is awesome .

im getting the moto x4 tommorow. i got it pretty cheap for 280 euros

Oneplus 6. It's pretty good for development!

A5 2017 for Samsung reliability and the phone is great so far !

Still on Osprey coz i love it... ?

asus zenfone max pro m1
I moved on to the asus zenfone max pro m1 simply due to the low cost SD 636 and 5000 mAh battery.
The main camera is not good - no EIS and pictures come out blurry. Installed the google cam mod to improve picture quality (no root required).
If I was out to buy something now it would be the Xiaomi Poco F1 due to the SD 845 SOC at such a low price.

Still using the osprey. Have no need to upgrade just yet as phone still works and battery life still pretty solid. I'll upgrade when the battery dies out but think I would have to get the poco f1

Mi A2 lite should be here any day
Osprey will still live as hand me down, it has been a great device and still is

Lenovo p2 ..since 1 year.. but I gave my Moto G3 to my dad ?

battey life !
Carnage_mafia said:
Still on Osprey coz i love it...
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I'm too in love with my osprey still a solid companion...
how's your battery life mate, did u get your battery replaced ? I'm getting around 2 to 2.5 hours only.

leoalbincr31 said:
I'm too in love with my osprey still a solid companion...
how's your battery life mate, did u get your battery replaced ? I'm getting around 2 to 2.5 hours only.
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Nope .. I'm still getting close to 5 hours Sot..?? I haven't replaced yet..

leoalbincr31 said:
I'm too in love with my osprey still a solid companion...
how's your battery life mate, did u get your battery replaced ? I'm getting around 2 to 2.5 hours only.
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Carnage_mafia said:
Nope .. I'm still getting close to 5 hours Sot..?? I haven't replaced yet..
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That's my battery life

ttocs99 said:
That's my battery life
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You replaced battery..? And which Rom?

Carnage_mafia said:
You replaced battery..? And which Rom?
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Never replaced battery and using lineage 14.1 hardened edition by MSe1969. I'm using the version with micro g and get my apps from yalp store and fdroid as not using play store etc

I've have lowered the brightness to minimum with auto brightness still on

any new custom rom for samsung j7 Nxt

Is there any new custom rom of j7 nxt after 8.1 update which is best for gaming
i searched many times but i can't found so
i would like to request our great developers to develope one best gaming rom for j7 nxt where we can play pubg smoothly with hd graphics
Thank you

avishekthapamagar said:
Is there any new custom rom of j7 nxt after 8.1 update which is best for gaming
i searched many times but i can't found so
i would like to request our great developers to develope one best gaming rom for j7 nxt where we can play pubg smoothly with hd graphics
Thank you
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i think our developers are sleeping for a year they even reply your new thread ....
and badluck for j7 nxt it have good procesor but low ram i am very disapointed with samsung i think i going to crase my phone with a big hammer

Ajay gorai said:
i think our developers are sleeping for a year they even reply your new thread ....
and badluck for j7 nxt it have good procesor but low ram i am very disapointed with samsung i think i going to crase my phone with a big hammer
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Before you destroy your J7 with a hammer, sent it to me.
i use my smartphone not for playing, and it's for me a very good phone still.
Phones be created for calling, and thats works perfect, some pictures too, what else more you want?
So dont destroy, give it to me