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I'm looking for the most customizable custom ROM. Cyanogen Mod 7 is always good (I think at least), but I also read something about Super AOSP. According to the big rom and kernel guide at the development section, it has supsetup which lets you customize every aspect of the ROM, which sounds like exactly what I want. If someone can explain what supsetup really is, that would be cool.
But I've also read that Super AOSP isn't getting updates anymore. Apparently there will be a new ROM in the (near?) future named Super OSR.
I've also read that Super AOSP isn't based on CM7, or at least very little. So what's better in terms of customizability? A ROM based on CM7 (or CM7 itself of course), or a ROM based on AOSP?
Choose any ROM and put SPB Shell on it.
jonnythan said:
Choose any ROM and put SPB Shell on it.
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Too simple. Besides, I want it to be unique.
That's why I don't want MIUI. While it's themable, it's not really flexible.
And you only read my 'different homescreen' part. Please read my whole thread before commenting.
I would suggest CM 7 Nightly, but they have new updates alot. So if you want it to be a more constant stableness, check out the CM7 RC build. I read it almost ready for a full release, as far as being stable. Might want to check out the matrix kernal for CM 7 also, its pretty sweet.
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pierre1321 said:
I would suggest CM 7 Nightly, but they have new updates alot. So if you want it to be a more constant stableness, check out the CM7 RC build. I read it almost ready for a full release, as far as being stable. Might want to check out the matrix kernal for CM 7 also, its pretty sweet.
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Well, a lot of new updates is always good IMO. It keeps my phone fresh. That's another reason I liked MIUI. For example, it was cool when they introduced the new lockscreens.
As far as themability goes, are there ROMs that are more 'different' from stock Android, like MIUI?
Alot of rom's are based off stock, For compatability as far as service provider and certain functions of the phone. But some will add tweaks and options not available on stock. Like themes, already rooted, better wallpapers, different system apps but depends on developer. Cm 7 seems to have alot of options to change settings and appearance and how it functions. Make sure you have a decent kernal cause this can affect the performance of the options.
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Well, a lot of new updates is always good IMO. It keeps my phone fresh. That's another reason I liked MIUI. For example, it was cool when they introduced the new lockscreens.
As far as themability goes, are there ROMs that are more 'different' from stock Android, like MIUI?
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I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like you're looking for some completely different OS, but that doesn't really exist. The most you can really get is either a Sense-type ROM, which in truth is pretty similar to stock Android, MIUI, or some other home replacement.
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I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like you're looking for some completely different OS, but that doesn't really exist. The most you can really get is either a Sense-type ROM, which in truth is pretty similar to stock Android, MIUI, or some other home replacement.
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Well, that answers my question than.
I did find the UI of the Acer Liquid Metal and Acer Stream pretty cool. It doesn't have to be like that 'out of the box', but I want to be able to change it to look like that, if you get what I mean.
I know CM7 looks a lot like stock ROM at first sight, but you can change it a lot untill it looks totally different. I've seen some homescreen shots on XDA to prove that. So basically what I want is a ROM that I can change the most to make it look completely different, not a ROM that is completely different out of the box.
I'm looking for the most customizable custom ROM. Cyanogen Mod 7 is always good (I think at least), but I also read something about Super AOSP. According to the big rom and kernel guide at the development section, it has supsetup which lets you customize every aspect of the ROM, which sounds like exactly what I want. If someone can explain what supsetup really is, that would be cool.
But I've also read that Super AOSP isn't getting updates anymore. Apparently there will be a new ROM in the (near?) future named Super OSR.
I've also read that Super AOSP isn't based on CM7, or at least very little. So what's better in terms of customizability? A ROM based on CM7 (or CM7 itself of course), or a ROM based on AOSP?
Sounds like maybe your looking for a kitchen. Then you could personally customize it with apps and options to suite your needs.
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Sounds like maybe your looking for a kitchen. Then you could personally customize it with apps and options to suite your needs.
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Thanks! Will be looking at that. No idea what it is but some Googling doesn't hurt. Edit: so basically you can theme your whole rom with it? Make your own theme? Looks awesome! Their site isn't working right now but I've looked around on the internet. I still need a ROM with it of course. What would be the best ROM in combination with kitchen for the most customizability?
I rephrased my question because I think I wasn't clear. But can you tell me something about Super AOSP and supsetup?
Questions I have left:
- What is supsetup (a SuperAOSP feature)?
- What is the best ROM to go with UOT Kitchen in terms of customizability?
- Are there more mods that let me customize as much as possible? For example, could I be able to modifiy the settings menu, like the order of the buttons?
- What do I need to customize the living **** out of my Nexus S?
In short, a kitchen lets you add or take away certain options or apps in your rom. Wich allows you to customize its appearance and functionality.
Some kitchens if available, will have extra options or features. That way you don't need to go all over the place to find stuff for the kitchen.
This info might be outdated on kitchens, so look for newer info.
Don't know to much on super AOSP or the setup.
Just remember that even though certain options are available, doesn't mean it will be stable.
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Thanks! Will be looking at that. No idea what it is but some Googling doesn't hurt.
I rephrased my question because I think I wasn't clear. But can you tell me something about Super AOSP and supsetup?
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i feel a wee bit embarrassed asking this as it feels like a super n00b question but i imagine that's why the Q&A is here.
i'm getting the S3 but am considering flashing a more stock looking ICS ROM onto it. i don't have a problem with TW but i just really like how stock ICS looks with the blue instead of the green theme samsung has on TW. however i don't want to lose some of the S3 features like pop-up video, smartstay and such.
when i flash over a different ROM than the one that isn't the TW UX will i lose those features or are these things embedded in the phone so you can never get rid of them and the ROM is just aesthetics? is there a ROM coming or in development that has a more stock ICS look but keeps the features?
i've never flashed a custom ROM before so i don't know what happens to certain features when you do, which is why i'm asking before i do it so i don't lose some of the S3 features that i bought it for
Hi there, welcome to the forums.
I've done a little search, and found you this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
Hope this can clear your vague areas.
EDIT: From what I understand, you will lose the features that you current ROM provides if you are to replace it with another ROM that does not have/support that feature. So yes, I think you will lose features IF the new ROM doesn't support it.
I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
U can go to other forum like i9000 and nexus S and ask this question there, too ...they r just for your own choice lol, just flash one u like
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I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
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They basically all come from the same base as far as Android OS goes, and as far as comparing no one can tell you what to choose. I know you are not asking for someone to choose for you, but that kinda is where the question leads. Compare them for yourself. See what you like. They all have their own flavor, mods, tweaks. Some are closer to stock, others are heavily modded. That's your answer in a nutshell. No one is gonna sit down and draw you up a chart of features for each rom.
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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You just have to choose what you like and what works for you. It's that simple. Until Aries is released and we have an updated kernel, they are all about the same, but Aries will fix some issues. Like those blasted capacitive back lights timing out.
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What made you choose miui for your phone? Did you try different ROMs before?
@HKSpeed
Oh, I haven't updated that... I'm on CM9 at the moment. My ROMs of choice are Team Acid's. I have been using their work since Froyo so I'm biased. I was on AOKP but battery was a big issue for me, it drained very fast, so I went on CM9 to see how it works since most other ROMs are based on it. Thought it should be more simple, less tweaked. I have tried all, except Linaro and Provision. I like them all but somehow I can't notice difference between them except but a few little things here and there.
I was on MIUI because Dao kept updating it and fast. It was more advanced than other ports/ROMs, then I went on AOKPBC just to see and the theme was too heavy, awesome but not what I was looking for.
I'm not saying I will stay on CM forever, might go on a flashing rampage sometime soon. I know these are WIP that depend on kernel so until then I shall keep experimenting.
I know the others have said pretty much the same thing I am saying, but it comes down to a matter of choice. The ICS roms are all CM9 base if I am not mistaken, so you are dealing with mostly the same issues and bugs on each, so it really comes down to a point of which theme you want and which apps/bloat you want. It becomes a real pain to have to debloat/rebloat a rom and I only ever do so if the theme and layout is custom and really nice but fun to use. If it's basically a stock rom and doesn't have typical apps/bloat/mods/tweaks that I am used to using, I hit the thanks button for the hard work that helps future devs have an easier time and keep looking for a rom that has everything I want. Right now, I am going to be selling my phone soon so I can get a SGS III at least, or maybe wait to see if the rumors are true and T-Mob gets the One X+. I'm drooling over that OC'd Tegra 3 ::fingers-crossed: But, that doesn't mean I won't be trying out different roms at the moment. I love the ICS roms but hate that I can't use calling over wifi. I know there are other options, but they are a bit of trouble with linking google voice among other things, so ICS isn't really for me yet even though it is beautiful. There's my choice...what's yours?
Ive tried to not post but it bothers me when people cant understand a simple question.
Chris31jct is NOT asking for you to convince him. He is asking why did YOU choose a specific rom.
He is also asking for a reason other than the generic responses given 90% of the time.
I started out on aokp then when slimics was released I used it for a while. I wanted to try aokp to see why it was so popular. I like aokp the customization options its a nice rom. I wanted to try slimics just because it doesnt have all the extra apk that aokp and cm9 have that I never use.
Most of the time I will test a rom just to see what the hype is.
3 things decide your choice of a ROM:
Stability
Customization
Battery consumption
In terms of Stability, Usually the higher the customization and options of a ROM, the more conflicts it has( not a rule).
Battery should be the same on all since they use same code and kernel.
Graphic Customization: AOKP is the Best
Settings and options: CM9 is the best
Stability + Battery: I personally prefer SlimRom or Stock cuz it has the most required customization and its very slim( about 80 mb) so probably lighter on your phone.
I wasn't trying to convince him. I know he'll choose whatever rom he wants and that's not for me to decide and/or judge. I was merely stating why most of us choose the roms we choose which is what I interpreted the question to be. The reasons I gave are the reasons I choose the roms I choose. I don't mean to speak for everyone, but that would be the most basic reason to choose a rom other than just to try out what is out there but we ultimately stick with certain roms due to what's included in the rom as well as the stability of it, although as stated before by more than just me, the ICS roms have the same bugs and therefor the same stability issues. Again, not trying to step on anyone's toes, I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I answered the question as I interpreted it.
Also, as to specific roms, I'd be here all day if I chose to speak on that because I started using custom roms on my old G1 and I've tried out probably over 100 roms for various phones over the last few years. For that matter, I could go way back to the days of the Motorola Razor and a few other phones out around the same time, but I was speaking more about android roms. As far as the roms is concerned I don't care if it's miui, ICS, AOKP, etc. If it has the features I'm looking for and is stable, then I use it until something comes around I like better.
I went with AOKP because
It had full source code and I could modify it as I wanted
I liked the layout of toggles
AOKP ROM Control had features I wanted
I could long-press Back to kill a process
It has "quiet hours"
It has decent control of background data use
I knew where the kernel came from and it has full source code
I knew where all binaries came from and it has full source code
I know the last two of these are an absolute requirement under GPL, but many ROM "authors" fail to provide this information.
AOKP has some "crap" that I freeze to improve performance, but I haven't run out of on-phone storage yet.
CyanogenMod 9, for me, wasn't quite as "usable" as AOKP, the way I use my phone.
MIUI is too "Technicolor" and gimmicky for me. Most of what it has (other than a decent File Explorer, when it doesn't crash) I consider "bloat."
SLIM seemed like a good candidate, but without easy access to full source and the ability to build as I desired, it wasn't on my short list. I tried Lightning or whatever its "default" launcher is, but it had a couple things that just didn't allow me to set up my phone the way I wanted (paging is "wonky" to the way I have come to think of a launcher).
Kernel -- Well, Hefe Kernel pretty clearly added what I wanted; better battery life without significant impact in responsiveness. I'm glad others find what works for me helping them out too.
The Zip-n-Go ROMs don't, in general, excite me. I'm not a big theme guy and I can add/remove what I want pretty easily myself.
@krazymonkeys
I understand your point. I also try everything and then stick to one ROM.
@eollie
Thanks bro.
@jeff
That's the best example of kind of answer I was looking for. Thanks!
I'm on Erik's MIUI 2.8.10.
I tried it because I like the UI: I like the notification bar and full screen toggles, I like the kill app back button feature, the task manager combined task killer home button and all the sys apps. It is super fast, lighweight and easy to use. It is stable and gives instant GPS lock.
Only problem is the battery consumption, but it's kernel related I believe.
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@itzik2sh
I tried MIUI but it is too bright. Don't get me wrong. I like it a lot. But since we don't have Automatic Brightness, then it was a pain. Anyway, it's a great ROM and I think battery didn't drain more than it does on other ROMs. What I love most about MIUI is the phone and text's apps.
Hey guys so i have done some research about each one and what they are and still have a few questions so ill just number them and ask away.
1. AOSP roms essential give you more settings and stock google released features? I was watching a video that talked about a aosp giving phones that little side bar menu and im thinking why do i need to get a AOSP rom when i already have that feature. Are there some AOSP roms that give more features that are no accessible to the public yet.
2. AOKP roms are roms that do something like nova launcher? Kinda give us more personal/display customization? One thing i hate about nova launcher is its kinda seems like a dual boot to me. When you press home key you have the option to go to touchwiz or nova launcher. I know you can set it to go to nova launcher everytime but i kinda hate that. So do AOKP roms eliminate that factor?
3. What is a touchwiz rom? Pretty lost.
4.I guess this is more of what im looking for in roming my phone. For battery life of course i want as much as i can, do both AOSP roms and AOKP roms provide longer battery life depending on the rom? Also i want a rom that allows me to customize or comes with home screen and lock screen of my likeing. Heres images of what i want my lock screen to possibly look like. >>>>http://25.media.tumblr.com/7cbd86e3254e6267696940dda8248124/tumblr_mubqwzEuI91qlv1xlo1_1280.jpg
So here just focusing on the buttons and layout of where everything is. For sure on a stock galaxy this is impossible to do. The layout is just completely different. Addition to that i would like the black bar at the top that shows signal and etc to be gone so it has a cleaner look.
So finally, should i go AOSP, AOKP, touchwiz? Im also looking for more features too im open to that.
You need to do a lot of reading and research, what you're asking is way too detailed to answer in one post and you still wont get it.
Start with this, then repost and refine your question from what you still dont understand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950824
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Epsilon50 said:
Hey guys so i have done some research about each one and what they are and still have a few questions so ill just number them and ask away.
1. AOSP roms essential give you more settings and stock google released features? I was watching a video that talked about a aosp giving phones that little side bar menu and im thinking why do i need to get a AOSP rom when i already have that feature. Are there some AOSP roms that give more features that are no accessible to the public yet.
2. AOKP roms are roms that do something like nova launcher? Kinda give us more personal/display customization? One thing i hate about nova launcher is its kinda seems like a dual boot to me. When you press home key you have the option to go to touchwiz or nova launcher. I know you can set it to go to nova launcher everytime but i kinda hate that. So do AOKP roms eliminate that factor?
3. What is a touchwiz rom? Pretty lost.
4.I guess this is more of what im looking for in roming my phone. For battery life of course i want as much as i can, do both AOSP roms and AOKP roms provide longer battery life depending on the rom? Also i want a rom that allows me to customize or comes with home screen and lock screen of my likeing. Heres images of what i want my lock screen to possibly look like. >>>>http://25.media.tumblr.com/7cbd86e3254e6267696940dda8248124/tumblr_mubqwzEuI91qlv1xlo1_1280.jpg
So here just focusing on the buttons and layout of where everything is. For sure on a stock galaxy this is impossible to do. The layout is just completely different. Addition to that i would like the black bar at the top that shows signal and etc to be gone so it has a cleaner look.
So finally, should i go AOSP, AOKP, touchwiz? Im also looking for more features too im open to that.
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Like the person said you really need to do more research as AOKP is an AOSP rom. AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and these roms are basically modified versions of the original Android OS. Touchwiz is a heavily modified version of Android installed in Samsung phones. So your question shoud have been AOSP Or Touchwiz.
jmxc23 said:
Like the person said you really need to do more research as AOKP is an AOSP rom. AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and these roms are basically modified versions of the original Android OS. Touchwiz is a heavily modified version of Android installed in Samsung phones. So your question shoud have been AOSP Or Touchwiz.
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Thanks. So can i have a AOSP rom like CM10 and a touchwiz theme? or theme? I was loooking here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850506 and not sure if i can get a theme and a AOSP
Epsilon50 said:
Thanks. So can i have a AOSP rom like CM10 and a touchwiz theme? or theme? I was loooking here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850506 and not sure if i can get a theme and a AOSP
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that is outdated as there have been about 20 or so roms released since then. I will also add that there are only touchwiz specific themes and AOSP specific themes no universal themes.
XDA is a development site not a support site. As such members are expected to do the research, read through the development threads and decide what is BEST for them. The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be BEST for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. Please take the time to read through those development threads to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
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Have a great day!
I need one ROM with less or no bugs...thanks guys
Try them both.
As you'll never get an unbiased opinion, "Which ROM is best?" threads are frowned upon and generally quickly locked.
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I'm interested by the question but not by the troll
Really, what's the difference between cyanogenmod and omrirom rev5.1.1?
It is not possible to answer your question.
Best thing I can do is point you to the source code and tell you to do a diff.
Both roms have different dev, different priorities, different way of doing things, different features (and for equivalent features, different way of implementing them).
For me Omnirom is way mor clean and stable but CM have more features.
On the other hand, omni nightlies have just started so new features are being implemented (not the same ones as CM, maybe for some).
I really think this kind of question can only lead to troll as "which rom is the best ?" is the same as "which color is more beautiful ?", there is no answer.
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It is not possible to answer your question.
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Why?
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Best thing I can do is point you to the source code and tell you to do a diff.
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And this is not helpful.
supermamie said:
Both roms have different dev, different priorities, different way of doing things, different features (and for equivalent features, different way of implementing them).
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I guess most users are interested in details about those different features. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the specific features of CM and Omni to make such a comparison. Maybe those who implemented unique features for Omni can step up and provide a short description of what they did.
supermamie said:
I really think this kind of question can only lead to troll as "which rom is the best ?" is the same as "which color is more beautiful ?", there is no answer.
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There are objective differences between the ROMs, just as there are objective differences between the colors red and blue.
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There are objective differences between the ROMs, just as there are objective differences between the colors red and blue.
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Then please, which is the best color ?
in the use I've done of both rom now on my nexus 5 (I stopped using CM when Omni nightlies went online) here are the differences I can point :
- CM freeses sometime (maybe omni will too after a few weeks, I don't know)
Features CM have and not omni (not yet for some I think) :
Access to clock/calendar from the status bar
Quick access to the parameters tiles (the thing we have to swipe twice to access)
Customisation of the google now access ring (3 shortcut possible)
Customisation of the lockscreen shortcuts
For now CM have more features but more bugs.
As those features were in Omni 4.4, I guess they will be back (and if not... well, they will be back, if the main dev have more things to do, someone else will do it).
If you want many many features, go to CM, if you want less bugs, go for Omni.
This is based only on my experience on both roms on my phone with my apps and my way of using my phone, it is purely subjective.
(there are many features of CM I don't use that are not in CM, like OmniSwitch)
OmniRom is more like a stock rom, with too less availability to customize it, it's pretty stable and it works pretty well.
CM rom are really completely customizable in really everything and with them you can suit the best phone for you. Maybe a few bugs, not big bugs, but developers release new versions very often. For example, for Samsung Galaxy S3 mini (CM 12.1 stable) I got an update on August 18th, than on 29th and then on September 1st. You just need to be patient to restore your data after updating.
It depends only in what you want form your phone
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