i feel a wee bit embarrassed asking this as it feels like a super n00b question but i imagine that's why the Q&A is here.
i'm getting the S3 but am considering flashing a more stock looking ICS ROM onto it. i don't have a problem with TW but i just really like how stock ICS looks with the blue instead of the green theme samsung has on TW. however i don't want to lose some of the S3 features like pop-up video, smartstay and such.
when i flash over a different ROM than the one that isn't the TW UX will i lose those features or are these things embedded in the phone so you can never get rid of them and the ROM is just aesthetics? is there a ROM coming or in development that has a more stock ICS look but keeps the features?
i've never flashed a custom ROM before so i don't know what happens to certain features when you do, which is why i'm asking before i do it so i don't lose some of the S3 features that i bought it for
Hi there, welcome to the forums.
I've done a little search, and found you this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
Hope this can clear your vague areas.
EDIT: From what I understand, you will lose the features that you current ROM provides if you are to replace it with another ROM that does not have/support that feature. So yes, I think you will lose features IF the new ROM doesn't support it.
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I am sorry if this is stupid noob question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
spanjeli said:
I am sorry if this is stupid noon question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
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I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
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I always asked myself the ssame question too... but it turns out we dont hhave so many devs here and this device wasn't a hit like the S series from samsung. Making custom roms isn't so hard but it needs alot of learning if ur a biggener. I tried making custom roms myself but what else do u need from a custom rom if you already have CM9, cm10, paranoid android and soon to be AOKP? But who knows we might see new stuff I mean I bought this tab before there was even a functional cm9 build and I was thinking of selling it. But it pulled through aand I must say his device is rock solid we just need to nail the wifi issue.
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ben_2g0 said:
I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
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I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
spanjeli said:
I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
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I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
unclefab said:
I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
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I have actually did a lot of things with the ICS stock rooted but never have wifi issues. Anywhere I go with wifi access, I never have problems or any issues. Would it be router related? With my P3113, its fine but with my YP-G70, there was. I have to install another stock rom to solve it. Otherwise, everything works fine with me. These products are actually very nice IMHO. I'm just waiting for the JB update for my P6210 and P3113, if there will be.
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
DigitalMD said:
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
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Stock rom is full with unneeded application.
Custom rom bring more speed and space.
I'm currently running custom rom based on JB leak on my Samsung SII, which is full with super functions from S3 and Note 2. Above all that rom is great for daily use For me that is enough
Up until switching to Verizon recently I have only ever used Nexus Devices. I like the Stock Android that comes with a Nexus Device. Now I have an SCH-i535 Galaxy S3 and I hate it. I have rooted and installed custom bootloaders on this, I even tried using the root66 ROM for a while until VZW pushed an update that killed it, since then I have been completely stock.
I have used an AOSP ROM on my wifes Inspire 4G for a while and it wasn't very stable, kinda turned me off on custom ROMs.
Now I think I am ready to delve into custom ROMs again with my S3 and want some recommendations from the community on what would give me the closest experience to a the stock Nexus version of Android on my S3. It would also be awesome if I could get Google Wallet working on it too but that is not a requirement.
Thanks in advance and try not to flame me too hard as this is my first post and I really am too lazy to read every post on every ROM to find what I'm looking for.
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Up until switching to Verizon recently I have only ever used Nexus Devices. I like the Stock Android that comes with a Nexus Device. Now I have an SCH-i535 Galaxy S3 and I hate it. I have rooted and installed custom bootloaders on this, I even tried using the root66 ROM for a while until VZW pushed an update that killed it, since then I have been completely stock.
I have used an AOSP ROM on my wifes Inspire 4G for a while and it wasn't very stable, kinda turned me off on custom ROMs.
Now I think I am ready to delve into custom ROMs again with my S3 and want some recommendations from the community on what would give me the closest experience to a the stock Nexus version of Android on my S3. It would also be awesome if I could get Google Wallet working on it too but that is not a requirement.
Thanks in advance and try not to flame me too hard as this is my first post and I really am too lazy to read every post on every ROM to find what I'm looking for.
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if youre too lazy, youre going to run into issues.
the best thing you can do is read and try roms. wallet will work with any rom as far as i know. theres a thread in the themes and apps section you should look at.
youre thread will most likely be closed like others do of this nature.
every device runs differently so your results will vary.
some roms have smaller faetures that cause people to stay. theyre all kinda unique.
if you like youre stock features checkout touchwiz roms. if you want something closer to nexus check out the AOSP roms.
if you like stock and the look of AOSP checkout the touchwiz ones that have AOSP themes.
sorry for the vague answer, but figured id give some help before the thread is closed.
good luck.
ddurandSGS3 said:
if youre too lazy, youre going to run into issues.
the best thing you can do is read and try roms. wallet will work with any rom as far as i know. theres a thread in the themes and apps section you should look at.
youre thread will most likely be closed like others do of this nature.
every device runs differently so your results will vary.
some roms have smaller faetures that cause people to stay. theyre all kinda unique.
if you like youre stock features checkout touchwiz roms. if you want something closer to nexus check out the AOSP roms.
if you like stock and the look of AOSP checkout the touchwiz ones that have AOSP themes.
sorry for the vague answer, but figured id give some help before the thread is closed.
good luck.
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Thanks for the reply. I see that someone posted pretty much the same question as I did . I think I'll watch that thread also to see what comes up.
Hey guys so i have done some research about each one and what they are and still have a few questions so ill just number them and ask away.
1. AOSP roms essential give you more settings and stock google released features? I was watching a video that talked about a aosp giving phones that little side bar menu and im thinking why do i need to get a AOSP rom when i already have that feature. Are there some AOSP roms that give more features that are no accessible to the public yet.
2. AOKP roms are roms that do something like nova launcher? Kinda give us more personal/display customization? One thing i hate about nova launcher is its kinda seems like a dual boot to me. When you press home key you have the option to go to touchwiz or nova launcher. I know you can set it to go to nova launcher everytime but i kinda hate that. So do AOKP roms eliminate that factor?
3. What is a touchwiz rom? Pretty lost.
4.I guess this is more of what im looking for in roming my phone. For battery life of course i want as much as i can, do both AOSP roms and AOKP roms provide longer battery life depending on the rom? Also i want a rom that allows me to customize or comes with home screen and lock screen of my likeing. Heres images of what i want my lock screen to possibly look like. >>>>http://25.media.tumblr.com/7cbd86e3254e6267696940dda8248124/tumblr_mubqwzEuI91qlv1xlo1_1280.jpg
So here just focusing on the buttons and layout of where everything is. For sure on a stock galaxy this is impossible to do. The layout is just completely different. Addition to that i would like the black bar at the top that shows signal and etc to be gone so it has a cleaner look.
So finally, should i go AOSP, AOKP, touchwiz? Im also looking for more features too im open to that.
You need to do a lot of reading and research, what you're asking is way too detailed to answer in one post and you still wont get it.
Start with this, then repost and refine your question from what you still dont understand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950824
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Hey guys so i have done some research about each one and what they are and still have a few questions so ill just number them and ask away.
1. AOSP roms essential give you more settings and stock google released features? I was watching a video that talked about a aosp giving phones that little side bar menu and im thinking why do i need to get a AOSP rom when i already have that feature. Are there some AOSP roms that give more features that are no accessible to the public yet.
2. AOKP roms are roms that do something like nova launcher? Kinda give us more personal/display customization? One thing i hate about nova launcher is its kinda seems like a dual boot to me. When you press home key you have the option to go to touchwiz or nova launcher. I know you can set it to go to nova launcher everytime but i kinda hate that. So do AOKP roms eliminate that factor?
3. What is a touchwiz rom? Pretty lost.
4.I guess this is more of what im looking for in roming my phone. For battery life of course i want as much as i can, do both AOSP roms and AOKP roms provide longer battery life depending on the rom? Also i want a rom that allows me to customize or comes with home screen and lock screen of my likeing. Heres images of what i want my lock screen to possibly look like. >>>>http://25.media.tumblr.com/7cbd86e3254e6267696940dda8248124/tumblr_mubqwzEuI91qlv1xlo1_1280.jpg
So here just focusing on the buttons and layout of where everything is. For sure on a stock galaxy this is impossible to do. The layout is just completely different. Addition to that i would like the black bar at the top that shows signal and etc to be gone so it has a cleaner look.
So finally, should i go AOSP, AOKP, touchwiz? Im also looking for more features too im open to that.
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Like the person said you really need to do more research as AOKP is an AOSP rom. AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and these roms are basically modified versions of the original Android OS. Touchwiz is a heavily modified version of Android installed in Samsung phones. So your question shoud have been AOSP Or Touchwiz.
jmxc23 said:
Like the person said you really need to do more research as AOKP is an AOSP rom. AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and these roms are basically modified versions of the original Android OS. Touchwiz is a heavily modified version of Android installed in Samsung phones. So your question shoud have been AOSP Or Touchwiz.
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Thanks. So can i have a AOSP rom like CM10 and a touchwiz theme? or theme? I was loooking here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850506 and not sure if i can get a theme and a AOSP
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Thanks. So can i have a AOSP rom like CM10 and a touchwiz theme? or theme? I was loooking here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850506 and not sure if i can get a theme and a AOSP
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that is outdated as there have been about 20 or so roms released since then. I will also add that there are only touchwiz specific themes and AOSP specific themes no universal themes.
XDA is a development site not a support site. As such members are expected to do the research, read through the development threads and decide what is BEST for them. The only results that would be posted here are what each member has found to be BEST for them by experimentation based on their phone/usage/setup/apps/signal strength. Please take the time to read through those development threads to learn all about the software you are about to drastically alter your very expensive device with.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your cooperation.
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EFM
Have a great day!
First, thanks to the members of this forum it has been a great help in my noob unbricking initiation. This phone is a hand-me-down and I immediately tried to put CM on it... and you know what happened after that.
Next time I'll come here first.
I'm fairly dyslexic and am hating the TW interface so far, particularly the Samsung apps make it very hard for me to use.
Is there a TW ROM compatible with locked bootloaders that has a more vanilla android experience? In particular I would prefer to have just google apps (dialer, calculator, settings menu, keyboard etc...)
jdhogg88 said:
First, thanks to the members of this forum it has been a great help in my noob unbricking initiation. This phone is a hand-me-down and I immediately tried to put CM on it... and you know what happened after that.
Next time I'll come here first.
I'm fairly dyslexic and am hating the TW interface so far, particularly the Samsung apps make it very hard for me to use.
Is there a TW ROM compatible with locked bootloaders that has a more vanilla android experience? In particular I would prefer to have just google apps (dialer, calculator, settings menu, keyboard etc...)
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Between the few locked bootloader roms available I think it's merely a matter of debloating whichever one you choose. There is no perfect rom out there, I know because on my S3 I've tried nearly all of them. I'd say take a look at them and try each one out and see what you like, that's probably the best advice I can give you
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I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.
klokwyze said:
I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.
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Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling
jamesd1085 said:
Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling
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yeah wifi calling is irrelevant to me, but frankly this stock ROM is amazing compared to the performance of my Relay 4G.... H/W keyboard android phones RIP.
Cheers
I have the Intl version which sports more custom roms but they are all the same more or less.... im on stock KK too even though i was a die hard software updater (had 5.1.1 on previous Nexus 4).
Have to agree with you this phone hates modding and is really feeble, it will get bricked quite easy unlike the Nexus 4 which can take a lot of abuse
Try the new cloudy rom. It's a port from LG G4 with various elements.
why dont you guys check in the G2 Android Development. most roms cover all variants there.
For me CynaogenMod's Privacy Guard feature is a must-have on any Android phone. But right now I'm finding that the official CM12 nightlies seems to screw up the modem settings for my local carrier here in Canda (Wind), so I lose access to the service. Constructive suggestions will be greatly appreciated.